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45 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

6th richest club in Britain apparently....that’s what their belter fans were saying. Talked about waving fivers at other L2 clubs fans when they came to the Mem.

Utter ******* pounders.

They don’t need any financial help, in fact, Rovers should be sharing some of their vast wealth around the lower divisions. It’s only fair.

 

Joking aside Peter, there is a feeling among the football elder statesmen I have spoken to that Rovers may have made a blunder in the way the new training ground is being paid for. The money is coming into the club from Mr Al-Quidi and then out again to pay the contractors working on the project. But to obtain funding under the rescue package individual clubs may be audited to determine their financial need. Which could lead to the question "If you are so desperate for cash to keep your business afloat why are you spending vast sums on a training ground which is not necessary for your survival but which is enhancing the value of land held independently by your owner ?"

For Rovers the EFL rescue package may open a Pandora's box of hornet's nests within a can of worms.

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12 minutes ago, bert tann said:

 

Joking aside Peter, there is a feeling among the football elder statesmen I have spoken to that Rovers may have made a blunder in the way the new training ground is being paid for. The money is coming into the club from Mr Al-Quidi and then out again to pay the contractors working on the project. But to obtain funding under the rescue package individual clubs may be audited to determine their financial need. Which could lead to the question "If you are so desperate for cash to keep your business afloat why are you spending vast sums on a training ground which is not necessary for your survival but which is enhancing the value of land held independently by your owner ?"

For Rovers the EFL rescue package may open a Pandora's box of hornet's nests within a can of worms.

See what you mean Bert.

Surely other clubs in L1 and L2 have also improved stadium and training facilities in the last 12 months though. Presumably, if your concerns are correct, those other clubs would also ‘forfeit’ financial help?

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38 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

See what you mean Bert.

Surely other clubs in L1 and L2 have also improved stadium and training facilities in the last 12 months though. Presumably, if your concerns are correct, those other clubs would also ‘forfeit’ financial help?

 

Few would have suddenly embarked on such a project three months after the Government had invoked emergency powers which effectively shut down their business and even fewer would be pleading poverty while spending money to develop land which they didn't own and with no formal lease agreement in place.    

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1 hour ago, bert tann said:

 

Few would have suddenly embarked on such a project three months after the Government had invoked emergency powers which effectively shut down their business and even fewer would be pleading poverty while spending money to develop land which they didn't own and with no formal lease agreement in place.    

I do enjoy your posts, some cryptic hints of impending doom, some more straightforward, I have no idea of the  validity of the ‘facts’ you post and I really can’t be arsed to research them, I just hope all the prophecies of potential catastrophe are true.....

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13 hours ago, bert tann said:

 

Joking aside Peter, there is a feeling among the football elder statesmen I have spoken to that Rovers may have made a blunder in the way the new training ground is being paid for. The money is coming into the club from Mr Al-Quidi and then out again to pay the contractors working on the project. But to obtain funding under the rescue package individual clubs may be audited to determine their financial need. Which could lead to the question "If you are so desperate for cash to keep your business afloat why are you spending vast sums on a training ground which is not necessary for your survival but which is enhancing the value of land held independently by your owner ?"

For Rovers the EFL rescue package may open a Pandora's box of hornet's nests within a can of worms.

Not doubting what you've written Bert but if it's true that's most odd (and I've delivered a few major building projects in my time.)

For those who don't understand Bert's subtleties. In normal practice were the land on which the training facilities to stand be owned by Wael (not the club,) the club would enter into a pre-lease or service supply contract with the owner who, through their contractor, would have constructed the facility at their risk in accordance with Rovers requirements (Design & Build.) No funding for Cat A & B works is payable until the facility has practical completion and lease commenced, though CAT C & D may be paid prior to use (then such assets may be removed and used/sold elsewhere ) No freeholder in their right mind would allow somebody to construct on their land without guarantees of completion or reinstatement and the price of such indemnities render such proposals unaffordable to the end user. 

The club wouldn't have an issue in explaining why they needed to fund the 'lease or service cost' of Training and Development facilities as Cat A&B capital costs would be recouped by the owner over the length of the contract (unless the lessee has time restricted cash to flash and that needs some me explaining.) Nobody in their right mind would finance improvements in an asset over which they have no control.

One point I'd take issue with is the notion that monies currently expended are 'enhancing the value of the land'. One assumes Use Case Consent does not allow for construction other than that for the purpose stated and building consent approved (one assumes minor sporting premises.) In such case the quality of the grass matters little to a developer other than he'd have turf to sell prior to breaking it. Land value is intrinsically linked to Use Case Consent.

From the pictures I've seen whilst the pitches look great there's otherwise a shipping container (for the groundsman's equipment?) and a canvas marquee (in which the players are expected to change?) Not exactly tangible assets in my book....

 

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Bristol Rovers taken over by Gazillionaire Jordanians making them the 6th richest club in the country

 

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The deal for the sale of 'on its arse' ragbag outfit Bristol Rovers to Middle-eastern football novices – the Al-Qadi family – has been completed.

It has been confirmed that current chairman Nick "Watertight" Higgs will 'leg it' pronto out of the back door and it is expected that all directors at the club will also disappear without trace.

The Al-Qadis, based in Jordan, had been in contact with Higgs since the autumn enquiring over the acquisition of the club. The senior figure of the family Abdulkader Al-Qadi founded the Arab Jordan Investment Bank in 1978, one of Jordan’s central banks that holds assets valued at £1.05bn by Forbes (2012) and a hundred thousand million billion quid by this pair of deluded drivel spouting bed wetters :-

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Captain Pugwash and Semen Staines - Unlucky Da Shit!

Abdulkader Al-Qadi has three sons, the youngest of which, Wael (of fortune), is set to have the main involvement in implementing the Al-Qadi’s plan for the Gas in his role as President of Bristol Rovers.

Wael Al-Qadi was responsible for the campaign promoting the candidacy of FIFA Presidential hopeful and fellow Jordanian HRH Prince Ali Bin Al Hussein. The Prince is firmly expected to win next Friday’s FIFA election to held in Zurich.

In Bristol meanwhile, Wael Al-Qadi expressed his immediate ideas for the club, starting with manager Darrell Clarke.

“We will support Darrell by acquiring free transfers of journeymen and rejects from Poundland,” Al-Qadi said at a press conference.

He added: “We are here to build tents. We want this club to be like a circus in every aspect.

“We are here for the long term to cause maximum damage. We have no interest in leaving at all. These things take time you see. Do you like my watch?

“When we purchased the club we knew about the stadium issue so we mortgaged it to the hilt.

“Bristol Rovers has always been jokingly labelled as a family club and it is my family’s wish to install some cheap plastic garden chairs and sell fake fanta and out of date crisps.”

The outgoing and now less than watertight Chairman Nick Higgs expressed his relief at getting out of the tinpot club he had been taking backwards quicker than Marti McFly in a DeLorean. He was unavailable for comment on the club’s future in the hands of its new owners. His mobile was switched off and was jetting off to the Caribbean.

“Not my problem,” said Higgs when he eventually returned from a 6 month exile with a tan George Hamilton would be "prowed" of and certain to spark racist outbursts from the horse-punching faithful and true.

“At the end of the day, we have found the right people to turn the club into a village of tents and a complete laughing stock with everything done on the cheap and we cannot wait to see what gifts they provide the Ted's for their Bristol Rovers Dustbin Thread from here on,” Higgs concluded.

 

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14 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

All based on a mis-hearing.

They were actually going to sign Jordan.  A big presence up front and she makes herself available for an out of date packet of crisps and some fake fanta.

Corrected that for you. 

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7 hours ago, BTRFTG said:

Not doubting what you've written Bert but if it's true that's most odd (and I've delivered a few major building projects in my time.)

For those who don't understand Bert's subtleties. In normal practice were the land on which the training facilities to stand be owned by Wael (not the club,) the club would enter into a pre-lease or service supply contract with the owner who, through their contractor, would have constructed the facility at their risk in accordance with Rovers requirements (Design & Build.) No funding for Cat A & B works is payable until the facility has practical completion and lease commenced, though CAT C & D may be paid prior to use (then such assets may be removed and used/sold elsewhere ) No freeholder in their right mind would allow somebody to construct on their land without guarantees of completion or reinstatement and the price of such indemnities render such proposals unaffordable to the end user. 

The club wouldn't have an issue in explaining why they needed to fund the 'lease or service cost' of Training and Development facilities as Cat A&B capital costs would be recouped by the owner over the length of the contract (unless the lessee has time restricted cash to flash and that needs some me explaining.) Nobody in their right mind would finance improvements in an asset over which they have no control.

One point I'd take issue with is the notion that monies currently expended are 'enhancing the value of the land'. One assumes Use Case Consent does not allow for construction other than that for the purpose stated and building consent approved (one assumes minor sporting premises.) In such case the quality of the grass matters little to a developer other than he'd have turf to sell prior to breaking it. Land value is intrinsically linked to Use Case Consent.

From the pictures I've seen whilst the pitches look great there's otherwise a shipping container (for the groundsman's equipment?) and a canvas marquee (in which the players are expected to change?) Not exactly tangible assets in my book....

 

It’s in the green belt and has permission for use as a sports training facility. It has a gym and will have changing rooms/offices within the next 6 months or so. Not exactly likely to cause a huge increase in value unless you know someone desperate to buy a football training ground.

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13 hours ago, weeble said:

It’s in the green belt and has permission for use as a sports training facility. It has a gym and will have changing rooms/offices within the next 6 months or so. Not exactly likely to cause a huge increase in value unless you know someone desperate to buy a football training ground.

Thanks, that was my reasoning.

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17 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

All based on a mis-hearing.

They were actually going to sign Jordan.  A big presence up front and she makes herself available.

A common misunderstanding.

Remember what happened to Harry Rednapp after his agent called him and said "do you fancy doing Jordan?" 

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3 hours ago, Alan Dicks said:

I have to be honest, I’ve never heard of any of these.

I remember a time when i and many other City fans could name all of the Sags team, how times have changed!

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Barry Grant ex Brookside?

Elmer Fudd

Daniolla Westbrook  ex Eastenders 

Tom Daly diver

Mike Baldwin ex Corrie 

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5 hours ago, Alan Dicks said:

I have to be honest, I’ve never heard of any of these.

I remember a time when i and many other City fans could name all of the Sags team, how times have changed!

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Jack Nicholson? Owen Hargreaves? Matthew Upson? Dusty Hare? Alec Baldwin?

#starstudded

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1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

One belter on slagchat reckons they`d have beaten Burton if they`d had a full stadium roaring them on.

Full? Roaring? When`s that ever happened? 1958?

Let's look at Ben Garners record between January-March and see if that claim sounds valid...?! 

 

Just checked their stats and their 50% possession and 2 shots on target really make it sound like all they needed was a fictitious full house, roaring them on rather than booing and calling for Garners head. 

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23 hours ago, TomF said:

Still without a win in 2020 that’s not come about due to red card or penalty

True, but think that was their first point of the season without either a penalty or an opposition sending off.

They’re coming for us...

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2 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

One belter on slagchat reckons they`d have beaten Burton if they`d had a full stadium roaring them on.

Full? Roaring? When`s that ever happened? 1958?

Something seriously wrong with their mentality if they need a 'roaring' crowd to see them home against the might of Burton Albion.

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23 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

One belter on slagchat reckons they`d have beaten Burton if they`d had a full stadium roaring them on.

Full? Roaring? When`s that ever happened? 1958?

 


September 6, 1954
Liverpool make four changes for their game with Bristol Rovers, at Bristol, this evening, for which they only left Liverpool this morning, so that they will have had close on seven hours train journey before taking the field.

As Hughes is fit and returns to centre half, Twentyman resumes his normal left half berth. Arnell tales over at centre forward from Louis Bimpson, who received an eye injury on Saturday, and Anderson fills the vacancy thus created at inside right. Anderson had 13 senior appearances last season, scoring five goals.

Bristol Rovers have made a good start this season under their flamboyant young manager BJ Tann. At home they have defeated Port Vale and Derby County and drawn with Birmingham City. Seven of their nine goals have been scored by Geoff Bradford, the player for whom Liverpool made a big offer a year ago. He got a single in each of the four opening games, and a hat-trick against Derby on Saturday.

Despite playing in less than half his club’s matches due to a broken leg. Bradford topped the Rovers’ marksmen last winter with 21 goals in 18 outings, getting at hat-tricks on five occasions. Half of his games were at inside right, as he only took over the leadership when Vic Lambden was dropped.

A stalwart defence.
So far, this campaign, the Rovers have made only one change in their side. Paddy Hale, a former reserve centre half, having had outings at inside right. The defence is the same as that which played almost unchanged throughout last season, when the first six men on the team sheet missed a total of only 18 games between them.

Ray Warren, captain and centre half, is now in his 21st season at the Eastville Stadium, and from all accounts is playing as well as ever, though, possibly a little more inclined to use his head to save his legs.

On the basis of what we have seen of Liverpool thus far, their prospects of victory to-night look remote unless they pull out something very much better than in any previous game. A displays no better than that against West Ham is unlikely to bring a point never mind two. But we can still hope.

Match: Football League, Second Division, at Eastville Stadium, kick-off: 18:15.
Bristol Rovers – Liverpool 3-0 (2-0).
Attendance: 25,574.
Bristol Rovers (2-3-5): Howard Radford, Harry Bamford, Les Edwards, Jackie Pitt, Ray Warren, Peter Sampson, George Petherbridge, Paddy Hale, Geoff Bradford, Bill Roost, Peter Hooper.
Liverpool (2-3-5): Dave Underwood, Tom McNulty, Frank Lock, Barry Wilkinson, Laurie Hughes, Geoff Twentyman, Jimmy Payne, Eric Anderson, Alan Arnell, John Evans, Billy Liddell.
The goals: 1-0 Bradford (40 min.), 2-0 Bradford (42 min.), 3-0 Bradford (85 min.).

 

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1 hour ago, pommers1965 said:

One of them finally plucked up the courage to post about it ?

Mixture of a few sensible replies mixed with sheer bitterness. Does any other fanbase in the country take comfort from their rivals laughing at them for being shit? 
I expect a few of them have been busy writing emails of complaint over the weekend.

Whinging maggots.

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1 hour ago, pommers1965 said:

The strange thing about the complaints made by the fans of the club that ruined Bristol Rugby financially, is their belief that this is the view held by the whole rugby club and not just one BCFC supporting player of that club. Having said that, you could quite understand why anyone associated with that club during the time of BRFC "acquiring" the rugby ground, why they would feel bitter towards their grounds new occupiers. I use the term occupiers, as the owners are based in the tax exile haven of Jersey. Pot and kettle spring to mind.

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18 minutes ago, readie14 said:

Sad loads of money no class, apparently stood on the Tote closet Gas

 

So that would mean Joe Joyce was minus 8 when he stood on the tote?

#Gaslogic dictates that now it's been said it must be absolute fact that Joe Joyce really did stand on the Tote End as a kid...........the fact you claim he was -8 at the time by using spurious facts such as his actual age and the date that Eastville was demolished simply proves that you're just a bitter Ted.

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23 minutes ago, readie14 said:

Sad loads of money no class, apparently stood on the Tote closet Gas

 

So that would mean Joe Joyce was minus 8 when he stood on the tote?

I think that particular one was referring to Lansdown.

I like the post that claims that one City fan comparing his jubilation on Friday to the night we beat Man Utd and the day Rovers fell out of the entire league is ‘proof’ of how much they are in the hearts and minds of Bristolians ?

No pal, it means seeing Rovers make complete tits of themselves was brilliant and judging by their embarrassing crowds, most Bristolians don’t even know they exist. ?

 

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1 hour ago, bert tann said:

 


September 6, 1954
Liverpool make four changes for their game with Bristol Rovers, at Bristol, this evening, for which they only left Liverpool this morning, so that they will have had close on seven hours train journey before taking the field.

As Hughes is fit and returns to centre half, Twentyman resumes his normal left half berth. Arnell tales over at centre forward from Louis Bimpson, who received an eye injury on Saturday, and Anderson fills the vacancy thus created at inside right. Anderson had 13 senior appearances last season, scoring five goals.

Bristol Rovers have made a good start this season under their flamboyant young manager BJ Tann. At home they have defeated Port Vale and Derby County and drawn with Birmingham City. Seven of their nine goals have been scored by Geoff Bradford, the player for whom Liverpool made a big offer a year ago. He got a single in each of the four opening games, and a hat-trick against Derby on Saturday.

Despite playing in less than half his club’s matches due to a broken leg. Bradford topped the Rovers’ marksmen last winter with 21 goals in 18 outings, getting at hat-tricks on five occasions. Half of his games were at inside right, as he only took over the leadership when Vic Lambden was dropped.

A stalwart defence.
So far, this campaign, the Rovers have made only one change in their side. Paddy Hale, a former reserve centre half, having had outings at inside right. The defence is the same as that which played almost unchanged throughout last season, when the first six men on the team sheet missed a total of only 18 games between them.

Ray Warren, captain and centre half, is now in his 21st season at the Eastville Stadium, and from all accounts is playing as well as ever, though, possibly a little more inclined to use his head to save his legs.

On the basis of what we have seen of Liverpool thus far, their prospects of victory to-night look remote unless they pull out something very much better than in any previous game. A displays no better than that against West Ham is unlikely to bring a point never mind two. But we can still hope.

Match: Football League, Second Division, at Eastville Stadium, kick-off: 18:15.
Bristol Rovers – Liverpool 3-0 (2-0).
Attendance: 25,574.
Bristol Rovers (2-3-5): Howard Radford, Harry Bamford, Les Edwards, Jackie Pitt, Ray Warren, Peter Sampson, George Petherbridge, Paddy Hale, Geoff Bradford, Bill Roost, Peter Hooper.
Liverpool (2-3-5): Dave Underwood, Tom McNulty, Frank Lock, Barry Wilkinson, Laurie Hughes, Geoff Twentyman, Jimmy Payne, Eric Anderson, Alan Arnell, John Evans, Billy Liddell.
The goals: 1-0 Bradford (40 min.), 2-0 Bradford (42 min.), 3-0 Bradford (85 min.).

 

Interesting Bert but I’m sure you only posted this because they describe you as:

“flamboyant young manager BJ Tann”

You may not be young anymore but  you’re definitely flamboyant 

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******* hilarious that they spent the best part of 10 years shitting on Bristol Rugby at every twist and turn including stealing the Mem out from under their feet and then have the audacity to complain when they start doing well after the club had to move to survive. 

And as for the sad ***** that claim they were Bris through and through until they moved to the Gate, **** them. If they can't look beyond that to see the team then Bris doesn't need their support anyway. 

Joe Joyce walks on Cider.

As usual for the average sag it's a pint of bitter and twisted. 

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10 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Interesting Bert but I’m sure you only posted this because they describe you as:

“flamboyant young manager BJ Tann”

You may not be young anymore but  you’re definitely flamboyant 

What does the J stand for Bert?

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12 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Interesting Bert but I’m sure you only posted this because they describe you as:

“flamboyant young manager BJ Tann”

You may not be young anymore but  you’re definitely flamboyant 

Its the floppy hat and the cravat.

Quentin Crisp - IMDb

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13 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

And as for the sad ***** that claim they were Bris through and through until they moved to the Gate, **** them. If they can't look beyond that to see the team then Bris doesn't need their support anyway. 

Exactly. How can you call yourself a fan if you're not willing to support a team based on where they play? I watched Bristol many times at the tented village, and whilst the overall experience was pretty awful, I still supported them.

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4 hours ago, pommers1965 said:

If ever you needed more proof of just how much the Gas is in the hearts and minds of the people of Bristol, it’s this. The Gas getting relegated is on par as winning a major European trophy. 

#gaslogic ?

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2 hours ago, readie14 said:

Sad loads of money no class, apparently stood on the Tote closet Gas

 

So that would mean Joe Joyce was minus 8 when he stood on the tote?

I was going ask that! Surely he was too young.

No doubt they will make it a fact that he did by the time they go to bed this evening.

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