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7 hours ago, walnutroof said:

Wouldn’t gross misconduct mean they wouldn’t owe him anything?

I maybe wrong, but I think gross misconduct would be something that is done during his employment, I would suspect, if convicted they can use reputational damage (and other clauses in his contract), but not gross misconduct.

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11 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Gaschat being completely normal and comparing Joey’s actions with Adam Johnson’s - in turn normalising Johnson’s actions.

From a safeguarding expert no less

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If my child went to the school where they are in charge of safeguarding with that attitude I would be very worried.

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12 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Gaschat being completely normal and comparing Joey’s actions with Adam Johnson’s - in turn normalising Johnson’s actions.

From a safeguarding expert no less

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Wow! What a moron!

Apart from the fact that it was the BBC's helicopter that took the pictures of the raid on Cliff's house following a leak from the Yewtree team (and the police took no press along) his Adam Johnson statements show he knows nothing about the case.

Although all Johnson admitted was kissing the 15-year-old, he was actually found guilty of fingering her as well, and of grooming. His texts (which he told the girl to delete after reading them) made clear he wanted to have sex with her and set up a meeting for this to happen.

The Evans retrial is controversial (see the link), but at a minimum it paints a rather sordid picture of the player's personal life. It has hardly ruined his career though. He was in L1 when he was arrested and now he's playing in the Championship.  

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/14/campaigners-fear-evans-case-will-stop-women-reporting

As for his claim, "everyone knows who Joey Barton is". Um, no, no, they don't. 

 

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56 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Typical Saghead mentality.

”Haha LaNDSowNe wUz rONg haha evryone iz talKing abOuwt da GASSS get in thEre u bloooz”

 

 

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God they really are dense. Laughing at Lansdown because he didn’t have the imagination to foresee Wally being star struck by a criminal who has showed time and again that he doesn’t have the capacity to reform himself and would continue to allegedly commit offences when managing the mighty sags.

More than happy to let them have the limelight on this subject if they want.

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1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

Gaschat being completely normal and comparing Joey’s actions with Adam Johnson’s - in turn normalising Johnson’s actions.

From a safeguarding expert no less

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They have banned this poster and pretty quickly so fair enough. Awful post and views. 

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4 hours ago, NcnsBcfc said:

The correct offence is one of Battery. Indeed - Common assault (section 39, Criminal Justice Act 1988). 

As you are of course aware, there are three basic types of assault: Common Assault (with which JB has been charged), ABH and GBH, common assault being at the lower end of harm.

If violence is used in a common assault, it is called a “battery” and the perpetrator would be charged with “assault by beating”. This does not however, mean that the victim was actually ‘beaten up’ or even hit or kicked – it could be that they were pushed, grabbed or spat at. The victim may not therefore have suffered any physical injury, and if any injury was caused, it would need to be quite minor to fall under common assault.

Ultimately she has injuries for which no ambulance was required, and this will be a case based no doubt, on the 999 call to emergency services (No 999 call is mentioned in the Police statement - perhaps 111?); and the accounts of the ambulance and Police officers when they turned up. Backed up bybthe Body worn video they wear.

The fact that he was bailed, and subsequently charged means that the CPS by their own guidelines consider this is a case of a "realistic prospect of a conviction". Of Course.

Given his previous convictions, which will form a part of a bad character application with the details of those offences read out in court. I find it highly likely that JB will in fact be found guilty. Undoubtedly 'of bad character' ?

The real question is why is he out on bail at present? He is currently on Crown Court bail for the other trial matter. That is under a surety that he won't commit other offences (thus removing the need for a remand in prison awaiting trial). Indeed, and quite baffling. Tomorrow's judiciary comments will be very interesting.

It will be interesting what position the Judge takes tomorrow. Where will JB be sleeping tomorrow evening?

 

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12 hours ago, Shaun Taylor said:

I maybe wrong but I'm pretty certain he wouldn't be pulling her if he never had money 

 

11 hours ago, Wiltshire robin said:

You are definitely not wrong

 

2 hours ago, weepywall said:

Punching well above his weight I would say...excuse the pun. 

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that they are ‘childhood sweethearts’.

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22 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

I think everyone deserves a chance to turn their life around after ******* up. 

Barton has continually and repeatedly been involved in crime after crime after alleged crime. 

I don't think the 2 people are really a level comparison. 

I agree that people should have a second chance , but the negative publicity received with the Simpson signing shows domestic abuse is rightly condemned (whether first, second or multiple occasions). In Barton’s defence he hasn’t been convicted of this, which Simpson has.

I do agree with your statement of how many chances do you give Barton, he’s clearly got anger management issues, regardless of the outcome of this court case. He was a ticking time bomb when appointed and I can’t recall any previous manager of a football club having two trials in quick succession for assault.  

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19 hours ago, Banned User said:

I guees like alot of people maybe I jumped the gun-The questions I guess answer themselves as the players came. The Sun is a rag paper and not worth even reading.

I want JB to succeed 

I read his book "No Nonsense" and get why he had anger control problems.

What will happen if we have a bad start te crowd will turn so thats why i am not sure he should stay-I hope he dose and we get behind him

In a so called male dominated sport-

Premiership Players who played for England in the Euros had sex parties during lockdown-so is this abusing women

Wayne Rooney visited prostitutes-So is this abusing women

What happened between JB and his wife as she said private but someone for whatever reason felt it needed exposure.

With the up and coming Court Case re Stendell it seems very convenient 

It wuz those gurt tedz wurkin for da press dat leeked it. 

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3 minutes ago, BrightCiderLife said:

 

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So he stays in his job for now, albeit see what happens at the next court appearance, I assume that’s before December?  His job as manager for me is completely untenable, guilty or not guilty, as soon as they hit a bad patch the pressure will tell, he will kick off and the wheels fall off.  I predict a brawl at training or after a game with JB in the middle of it.  An absolute car crash of an appointment on all levels

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Imagine going to the Mem to play them (as an opposition manager, coach, physio), you would just have to wind him up for 90 minutes non stop, even get the whole bench involved. Only a matter of time before he loses it. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he clocks another player, manager etc etc this season as there will be some touchline bust ups and plenty will bring up this charge to his face.

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Just now, Dogbert said:

So a summary is up on the Evening Standard site.

Apparently his defence is that his wife had been drinking heavily and was exaggerating when she called the police asking for him to be removed from the house after kicking her in the head.

Just about to post this.

Shocking incident. Obviously his wife is now trying to protect him but given she called the Police in the first place it’s hardly surprising that this has fortunately got to the point where he has to answer for this.

Disgusting thing to do irrespective of who he is or who he works for.

Some Gasheads have already suggested that this has just been made up by the Police to ‘get’ Barton, as if they sit there all day trying to plot some tinpot football clubs manager...

 

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7 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Show me you’re guilty without saying you’re guilty 

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His Mrs sounds like a delightful character aswell then..! 

Match made in heaven, and perfectly suited to his current workplace. 

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I don't pretend to know all the in's and out's with Bartons long list of Court appearances, probably more than Andy Murray recently. But from the bit's I've read, Stendel had facial injuries after a run in with Barton, who denied involvement . His wife had head injuries after a disagreement with Barton, who denies involvement . Could we all be wrong and Joey is just really, really, really unlucky and misunderstood ?

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3 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Surely needs to be suspended by rovers. 

When clubs are struggling for money, even clubs with very rich owners with posh watches, I can understand why they don't suspend him. They would still have to pay him and it would mess up their relegation preparations . TBF he is still innocent as both cases are still pending. 

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3 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I don't pretend to know all the in's and out's with Bartons long list of Court appearances, probably more than Andy Murray recently. But from the bit's I've read, Stendel had facial injuries after a run in with Barton, who denied involvement . His wife had head injuries after a disagreement with Barton, who denies involvement . Could we all be wrong and Joey is just really, really, really unlucky and misunderstood ?

Or he is just a complete ***. 

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8 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Show me you’re guilty without saying you’re guilty 

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The "greatly exaggerated" bit does make it appear like he is saying the incident happened but not as bad as it sounds. The CPS definition of assault by beating says

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Provided there has been an intentional or reckless application of unlawful force the offence will have been committed, however slight the force.

 

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From Ass-shat :

 

Former Premier League footballer Joey Barton is accused of grabbing his wife by the throat and kicking her in the head in a drunken row at a party, a court heard on Monday.

The 38-year-old, who is now managing League Two side Bristol Rovers, is accused of assaulting Georgia Barton outside a property in Kew, south-west London, on June 2.

Prosecutor Nahiedh Khan said Barton and his wife had travelled to London for a short break, and went to the home of friends for a small gathering.

“All parties were talking about a family-related matter when Mr Barton became quite angry about the topic of conversation”, she said.

“He grabbed the throat of Mrs Barton, and this caused her to move backwards, falling to the floor.

“Once on the floor, he is then said to have kicked her in the head, resulting in a half golf ball sized bruise on the right side of her temple.

“She can’t remember what happened directly, but afterwards she got up and realised her nose was bleeding.”

The court heard Mrs Barton called the police and asked for her “intoxicated” husband to be removed from the property.

Appearing via videolink at Wimbledon magistrates court, Barton, wearing shorts and T-shirt, pleaded not guilty to assault by beating.

The court was told he denies being violent towards his wife, suggesting she had been “drinking heavily” and had “greatly exaggerated” the incident.

Neither Mrs Barton nor the two friends are expected to be witnesses in the case.

Announcing the charge, Scotland Yard said: “Joseph Barton, of Widnes, is due to appear on bail on Monday 26 July at Wimbledon magistrates court charged with assault by beating.

“The charge relates to an incident which took place at a residential property in Kew on Wednesday 2 June in which a woman received a head injury. London Ambulance Service did not attend.”

Barton was on police bail after his initial arrest on the day of the alleged attack, but news of the case did not emerge until this weekend.

The former midfielder made one appearance for England and played for Manchester City and Newcastle during his playing career. He became Fleetwood Town manager in 2018, and switched to Bristol Rovers in February this year.

Richard Derby, defending, said: “The issues in this case are, categorically, this incident did not happen. There was no assault.”

Barton, from Widnes, denies assault by beating. He was released on unconditional bail until his trial at Wimbledon magistrates court on December 16.

A further case management hearing has been set for November 17.

 

 

I know the hearing was by videolink; but doesn't it say something about how serious Barton is taking this by wearing shorts and tee shirt ? You would expect at least a collar and tie, and certainly not shorts ? 

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1 minute ago, 1960maaan said:

When clubs are struggling for money, even clubs with very rich owners with posh watches, I can understand why they don't suspend him. They would still have to pay him and it would mess up their relegation preparations . TBF he is still innocent as both cases are still pending. 

But still an allegation of kicking his wife in the head. It really is a terrible accusation and to be associated with that is very damaging 

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If you've got a significant amount of time to spare, here is a link to a summary of Barton's previous misdemeanours. 

From numerous training ground bust ups, to an incredible number of Red cards for violet conduct, to stubbing a cigar out in a youth team players eye, to attacking members of the public, numerous arrests, charges and sentences passed on him, to inflammatory remarks and public spats with fellow professionals.... 

How any football club could even consider appointing him as manager of their club is beyond belief..! 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9114297/Joey-Bartons-incredible-rap-sheet-sacking-Fleetwood-Town.html

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Just now, Bar BS3 said:

If you've got a significant amount of time to spare, here is a link to a summary of Barton's previous misdemeanours. 

From numerous training ground bust ups, to an incredible number of Red cards for violet conduct, to stubbing a cigar out in a youth team players eye, to attacking members of the public, numerous arrests, charges and sentences passed on him, to inflammatory remarks and public spats with fellow professionals.... 

How any football club could even consider appointing him as manager of their club is beyond belief..! 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9114297/Joey-Bartons-incredible-rap-sheet-sacking-Fleetwood-Town.html

It is astonishing. I read a thread were rovers fans were destroying him whilst he was Fleetwood manager. Every expletive if you could think of. Then he becomes there manager and he is seen as a god. Not by all I may add . The bloke needs serious help to control his anger. Has no place managing in football

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All I will say is if my missus phoned the Police during a party and told them I kicked her in the head and that was a completely fabricated story because she just wanted to get at me for some reason or simply because she was pissed out of her mind then she wouldn't be my missus for very long........and I certainly would not be living with her by the time my first Court appearance came along.

The poster yesterday who gave us the plausible story outlining how it could all have been a crazy mistake (I'm completely guessing he is a Solicitor who has experience of these scenario's) would probably have been better off ignoring the thread..............

@PHILINFRANCEthe Police and CPS are of the opinion (that's all it is right now but presumably they believe they have the evidence to nail Barton) that JB KICKED HIS WIFE IN THE HEAD.......where I come from that's called wife beating, I know you were questioning my semantics yesterday but that's what it is to any sane person.

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8 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

It is astonishing. I read a thread were rovers fans were destroying him whilst he was Fleetwood manager. Every expletive if you could think of. Then he becomes there manager and he is seen as a god. Not by all I may add . The bloke needs serious help to control his anger. Has no place managing in football

What is possibly even more baffling, is that surely its a great opportunity for them to even just pretend to take the morale high ground and call for his head - not because they condem his (alleged) actions, but because he's been worse than dire as their manager..! 

Yet they actually seem to rate the bloke..! 

He doesn't even stack up well against Ben Garner FFS..! 

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1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said:

What is possibly even more baffling, is that surely its a great opportunity for them to even just pretend to take the morale high ground and call for his head - not because they condem his (alleged) actions, but because he's been worse than dire as their manager..! 

Yet they actually seem to rate the bloke..! 

He doesn't even stack up well against Ben Garner FFS..! 

Plus Ben Garner isn't a thug!

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18 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

If you've got a significant amount of time to spare, here is a link to a summary of Barton's previous misdemeanours. 

From numerous training ground bust ups, to an incredible number of Red cards for violet conduct, to stubbing a cigar out in a youth team players eye, to attacking members of the public, numerous arrests, charges and sentences passed on him, to inflammatory remarks and public spats with fellow professionals.... 

How any football club could even consider appointing him as manager of their club is beyond belief..! 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9114297/Joey-Bartons-incredible-rap-sheet-sacking-Fleetwood-Town.html

you wouldnt want him as your neighbour would you

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8 minutes ago, samo II said:

4th story down on the BBC football page.

Regardless of the ins-and-out and whatever might happen legally, not exactly top-tier PR for them.

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Also one of the sky news headlines

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'Grabbed her by the throat and kicked her in the head'

The alleged incident is said to have took place at a gathering in Kew, south-west London, on June 2, which Barton attended with his wife Georgia.

The court heard Barton allegedly grabbed her by the throat and kicked her in the head during an altercation outside the property, where they had been with two friends.

She was also left with a bloody nose following the incident.

Barton has denied the charge and will stand trial in December.

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Just now, myol'man said:

'Grabbed her by the throat and kicked her in the head'

The alleged incident is said to have took place at a gathering in Kew, south-west London, on June 2, which Barton attended with his wife Georgia.

The court heard Barton allegedly grabbed her by the throat and kicked her in the head during an altercation outside the property, where they had been with two friends.

She was also left with a bloody nose following the incident.

Barton has denied the charge and will stand trial in December.

 

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36 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

His Mrs sounds like a delightful character aswell then..! 

Match made in heaven, and perfectly suited to his current workplace. 

You would think that Social Services would be making a visit to the Barton's to find out where the "children" were during this incident and, given that Mr Barton is either going to be found to be a wife beater or Mrs Barton a liar who phones the Police with greatly exaggerated accounts causing her husband to defend himself in court, whether there potentially is any degree of future harm that could affect them. This sort of stuff gets children living on Council Estates or in Suburbs put on "At Risk Registers" so living in Kew shouldn't make any difference?

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5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

You would think that Social Services would be making a visit to the Barton's to find out where the "children" were during this incident and, given that Mr Barton is either going to be found to be a wife beater or Mrs Barton a liar who phones the Police with greatly exaggerated accounts causing her husband to defend himself in court, whether there potentially is any degree of future harm that could affect them. This sort of stuff gets children living on Council Estates or in Suburbs put on "At Risk Registers" so living in Kew shouldn't make any difference?

Well quite, if the alleged incident didn't take place, then the person (whomever that is) that made the call should be prosecuted for wasting police time.

This won't just go away because his wife says it didn't happen!!

The bloke should have been banned from having any involvement in football on any level, after the cigar events at Man City.

His managerial career is just another example of how someone with a name can keep getting a job.

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15 minutes ago, Taz said:

Well quite, if the alleged incident didn't take place, then the person (whomever that is) that made the call should be prosecuted for wasting police time.

This won't just go away because his wife says it didn't happen!!

The bloke should have been banned from having any involvement in football on any level, after the cigar events at Man City.

His managerial career is just another example of how someone with a name can keep getting a job.

It's amazing how people forget about the most important people in all this..........it's the job of Social Services not to!!

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10 minutes ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

Bullies young lads, women and men who are not used to having a row! I’m 6”2 and we’ll built! I’d snap him like a ******* Kit Kat! 

Shall we have a whip round to cover your expenses?

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