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I’ve very little time for Plymouth Argyle, they hate us, my dad’s side of the family are from East Devon where anything green is verboten, and Hollowhead managed them at one point.

But considering practically every away day needs a weekend making of it and theirs is the largest city in Europe never to have hosted first-class football (Not counting Man Utd contesting a UEFA Cup tie there in the 1970s) they have a very good fan base, I do concede that.

They also apparently don’t care for the Quartered Mob either so they’ve got that in their credit column.

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4 hours ago, BS2 Red said:

I had to drive through Eastville just after 2.30pm today and I saw two separate people with gash shirts on. 

I assume it must have been a massive crowd today.

Let me correct you BS2, that was two vagrants you saw.

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Um, because you are a little Tinpot club? Small club playing a team from a village and getting battered. It’s not a surprise that you lost. All your loanees have ****** off back to their parent clubs leaving you with a team full of no marks in your little tented shit pit.

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11 hours ago, GrahamC said:

He basically says we are in a poor state if Clarke & Westbrooke (I have no idea who they are, by the way) are in my starting XI.

Well, who picked them? Who signed them? That was you, Barton.

How about taking some ownership & responsibility rather than throwing them under the bus.

He really is the most obnoxious individual, but if you look at his life & how he lives it, you would already know that.

If they aren't from the U15 side, that is incredibly bad man management.

Telling someone they are shit and shouldn't be in the team, is an unusual way of trying to get the best out of someone.

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Know a few Plymuff and find them great people, really passionate about and loyal to their Club. Numerically, the away support is amazing given travelling distances involved. The Sags support is way off in comparison.

Never found them to have any particular issues with City - apart from on our match days with them. Maybe some of their yobbish element have issues then, but even that doesn’t extend to anything like the toxicity of our derby days with the Welsh and Sags. 

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12 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

 

 

It would seem I shall have to watch and listen to this again.

My understanding, his comments concerning the budget aside, was that he was supporting the young lad Anderson, and I didn’t pick up on any criticism of his players.

On the subject of his IQ, JB may be lacking many qualities, but I don’t think a high IQ is one of them.

If Zane Westbrooke and Trever Clarke walked into his office on Monday morning and banged him out Barton couldn't really have a huge complaint to be honest. Footballers have to be able to take criticism (although many don't seem able to) but when it's that brutal and delivered direct to the fans that's way out of order.

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5 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Know a few Plymuff and find them great people, really passionate about and loyal to their Club. Numerically, the away support is amazing given travelling distances involved. The Sags support is way off in comparison.

Never found them to have any particular issues with City - apart from on our match days with them. Maybe some of their yobbish element have issues then, but even that doesn’t extend to anything like the toxicity of our derby days with the Welsh and Sags. 

I`ve always said, you`re much more likely to see kids in Plymouth wearing Argyle shirts than the plastic prem ones. It`s the same in Exeter as well to be fair.

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49 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

If they aren't from the U15 side, that is incredibly bad man management.

Telling someone they are shit and shouldn't be in the team, is an unusual way of trying to get the best out of someone.

Westbrooke was linked with us a few seasons ago when at Coventry. When he signed for the blue few I thought that was quite a coup for them. Clearly not!

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12 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

If Zane Westbrooke and Trever Clarke walked into his office on Monday morning and banged him out Barton couldn't really have a huge complaint to be honest. Footballers have to be able to take criticism (although many don't seem able to) but when it's that brutal and delivered direct to the fans that's way out of order.

Barton seems to have a bit of history with Westbrook, dropping him and loaning him out, obviously doesn't want him there, so I am not surprised with the sly dig - I'm sure Barton could bring through some of the youngsters instead if he is that bad? As for that Clarke, he signed a new 2 year deal last month with the option of another year, so who's fault is that Joey, he isn't some 18yr old learning his trade. The player must be over the moon with the comments. What great man management.

From Wiki - Clarke signed a new two-year contract with the club with the option for a further year on 3 June 2022

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2 hours ago, TheReds said:

Barton seems to have a bit of history with Westbrook, dropping him and loaning him out, obviously doesn't want him there, so I am not surprised with the sly dig - I'm sure Barton could bring through some of the youngsters instead if he is that bad? As for that Clarke, he signed a new 2 year deal last month with the option of another year, so who's fault is that Joey, he isn't some 18yr old learning his trade. The player must be over the moon with the comments. What great man management.

From Wiki - Clarke signed a new two-year contract with the club with the option for a further year on 3 June 2022

Clark would normally have been on the bench, as Nick Anderton was abovie him in the pecking order.  As for Westbrook, he's never really clicked during his time at Rovers, for whatever reason.  Barton has given him quite a few chances, made him Captain for the Pizza Trophy games, it's just not happening for him. If other players had been fit, nobody would have expected him to be in the starting 11, including himself, I'm sure.  Barton's choice of words was probably not the best way of getting his point across about the squad being down to the bare bones at the moment. 

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52 minutes ago, In the Net said:

Clark would normally have been on the bench, as Nick Anderton was abovie him in the pecking order.  As for Westbrook, he's never really clicked during his time at Rovers, for whatever reason.  Barton has given him quite a few chances, made him Captain for the Pizza Trophy games, it's just not happening for him. If other players had been fit, nobody would have expected him to be in the starting 11, including himself, I'm sure.  Barton's choice of words was probably not the best way of getting his point across about the squad being down to the bare bones at the moment. 

It doesn't really matter if Clarke would have been on the bench or not, he started. He has just been given a new contract (up to 3 years) by the same manager, he started because the manager picked him, if the squad is down to the bare bones then that is also down to the manager and also the owner. If Clarke being a first teamer is showing how bad the transfer window has been for Rovers, whilst giving the same player a fairly long deal, then it shows how terrible the business has been giving him that contract. His choice of words is not surprising at all, but then again he always seems to make a point of wanting to take responsibility himself, whilst then going on to throw someone under the bus, deflecting the responsibility from himself to the players.  

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42 minutes ago, TheReds said:

It doesn't really matter if Clarke would have been on the bench or not, he started. He has just been given a new contract (up to 3 years) by the same manager, he started because the manager picked him, if the squad is down to the bare bones then that is also down to the manager and also the owner. If Clarke being a first teamer is showing how bad the transfer window has been for Rovers, whilst giving the same player a fairly long deal, then it shows how terrible the business has been giving him that contract. His choice of words is not surprising at all, but then again he always seems to make a point of wanting to take responsibility himself, whilst then going on to throw someone under the bus, deflecting the responsibility from himself to the players.  

Clarke's contract was a decent bit of business, he'll be challenging for that position I'm sure, he had a couple of injuries last season, so didn't really get the chance to build up momentum.  Difficult to legislate for illness and player's picking up a knock this early in the season, no point jumping into transfer deals just to get the numbers up by first day kick-off.

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6 minutes ago, In the Net said:

Clarke's contract was a decent bit of business, he'll be challenging for that position I'm sure, he had a couple of injuries last season, so didn't really get the chance to build up momentum.  Difficult to legislate for illness and player's picking up a knock this early in the season, no point jumping into transfer deals just to get the numbers up by first day kick-off.

If it's a decent bit of business then maybe don't throw him under the bus after starting the first game of the season. Barton had no need to really name anyone. He could quite easily have said "we are struggling for players at the moment, and that wouldn't have been my first choice 11 if everyone was fit, and a couple of players aren't up to up to speed or full fitness yet", "we need to get some new faces in to improve the current crop of players we have available", etc etc etc. He has basically said that Clarke is not anywhere near first team material, and after giving him a 2/3 year contract a month ago. Terrible comments for the player, if that's man management then you are in trouble. I'm all for some tough love etc, but that was not needed whatsoever.

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2 hours ago, TheReds said:

If it's a decent bit of business then maybe don't throw him under the bus after starting the first game of the season. Barton had no need to really name anyone. He could quite easily have said "we are struggling for players at the moment, and that wouldn't have been my first choice 11 if everyone was fit, and a couple of players aren't up to up to speed or full fitness yet", "we need to get some new faces in to improve the current crop of players we have available", etc etc etc. He has basically said that Clarke is not anywhere near first team material, and after giving him a 2/3 year contract a month ago. Terrible comments for the player, if that's man management then you are in trouble. I'm all for some tough love etc, but that was not needed whatsoever.

That's a fair comment.  ?

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14 hours ago, Gert Mare said:

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Um, because you are a little Tinpot club? Small club playing a team from a village and getting battered. It’s not a surprise that you lost. All your loanees have ****** off back to their parent clubs leaving you with a team full of no marks in your little tented shit pit.

I’m surprised he’s surprised, given FGR won their division last year and they squeezed in the back door after an already-relegated team completely threw in the towel against them in their C*** Derby on the final day.

It must really rankle with the scum that a team from a town with a population of about 6,000 is consistently outperforming them (and no, I haven’t forgotten they put us out the league cup last year but there’s a world of difference between a shock in a one-off tie and showing them up consistently in the league).

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The bloke is such a *****.
 

And let this be a lesson to all fans….this is why you can’t get excited about a team of loanees. They’d still be in League Two without Anderson, and can’t replace the others they had on loan last year too. Now look what’s happening. 
 

It always comes home to roost. That’s a massive loss for them yesterday against a side who lost their three best players, AND lost their manager. A lovely, lovely reality check

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11 hours ago, elhombrecito said:

Just watched Ted's Notebook after the F1 today, and he announced he won't be at the Belgian GP at the end of August as he'll be on a training camp with the 15ers. How very random.

Yeah I saw that, he also made a point of repeating the fact it was Bristol Rovers as though he was so surprised and disappointed.

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On 30/07/2022 at 20:56, glynriley said:

Suggest you listen around the 40 second mark. No idea who Westbrook and Clark are, but I bet they’re buzzing with that glowing endorsement. 

 

On 30/07/2022 at 20:59, GrahamC said:

He basically says we are in a poor state if Clarke & Westbrooke (I have no idea who they are, by the way) are in my starting XI.

Well, who picked them? Who signed them? That was you, Barton.

How about taking some ownership & responsibility rather than throwing them under the bus.

He really is the most obnoxious individual, but if you look at his life & how he lives it, you would already know that.

OK, I have listened to it again, and accept there may have been some veiled criticism of Clarke and Westbrooke.

I say 'veiled criticism', as I am not convinced he was directly criticising the two players per se, but, rather, lamenting the poor recruitment over the summer, i.e. that it was so poor he was obliged to play two fringe players in the opening game of the season - much like we were obliged to do for much of last season.  

This is what he actually said:

"With the greatest respect to the starting XI today," Barton said. "If you had said to me at the end of last season Zain Westbrooke and Trevor Clarke were going to be in our starting XI on the opening day of the season, I would have said ‘My god, we must have had a bad summer’."

Incidentally, Zain Westbrooke was signed by Ben Garner, following a successful season with Coventry. I seem to recall we were also looking at him.

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16 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

 

OK, I have listened to it again, and accept there may have been some veiled criticism of Clarke and Westbrooke.

I say 'veiled criticism', as I am not convinced he was directly criticising the two players per se, but, rather, lamenting the poor recruitment over the summer, i.e. that it was so poor he was obliged to play two fringe players in the opening game of the season - much like we were obliged to do for much of last season.  

This is what he actually said:

"With the greatest respect to the starting XI today," Barton said. "If you had said to me at the end of last season Zain Westbrooke and Trevor Clarke were going to be in our starting XI on the opening day of the season, I would have said ‘My god, we must have had a bad summer’."

Incidentally, Zain Westbrooke was signed by Ben Garner, following a successful season with Coventry. I seem to recall we were also looking at him.

If I were Zain Westbrooke or Trevor Clarke, I’d have taken his comments as criticism!

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21 hours ago, elhombrecito said:

Just watched Ted's Notebook after the F1 today, and he announced he won't be at the Belgian GP at the end of August as he'll be on a training camp with the 15ers. How very random.

Pretty sure his reasons for absence are just a joke - he's certainly mentioned some very odd and most unlikely things in the past. 

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17 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Give it a couple of months and they'll be starring in 'Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!'

But what to seize...?

There`s a booming market in second hand camping equipment what with the cost of holidays. Them tents are probably worth more than they paid for them - even when you factor in the fumigation and sterilisation costs.

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On 31/07/2022 at 00:38, Gert Mare said:

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Um, because you are a little Tinpot club? Small club playing a team from a village and getting battered. It’s not a surprise that you lost. All your loanees have ****** off back to their parent clubs leaving you with a team full of no marks in your little tented shit pit.

Er . . . Oldie, FGR were the Champions of your league last season so by definition are better than you, they have a really forward thinking owner who's building a new ground for them & even coped with losing their manager to a team recently relegated from the Premier League.

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26 minutes ago, HitchinRed said:

Bristol Rovers fined £16,500 by FA for crowd trouble in Scunthorpe promotion game. 

I’m not sure that this will provide much of a deterrent for one of the richest clubs in the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62392726

Looking at some of the concerns of the committee including deleting of CCTV recordings and previous incidents, I think they got off lightly. 

Is the "reduced capacity" ruling on top of their own self imposed reduction? 

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11 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Looking at some of the concerns of the committee including deleting of CCTV recordings and previous incidents, I think they got off lightly. 

Is the "reduced capacity" ruling on top of their own self imposed reduction? 

Why are there no restrictions on the numbers allowed to be locked outside??

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On 30/07/2022 at 19:28, BS2 Red said:

I had to drive through Eastville just after 2.30pm today and I saw two separate people with gash shirts on. 

I assume it must have been a massive crowd today.

Those 2 have been going to Eastville on matchday for the last 35 years, they stand in the bedding department of IKEA imagining that they are still on the Tote, singing the Irene dirge until they are removed by security. Then one of them shouts "Chelsea are here" and then they run away!

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On 30/07/2022 at 18:37, Lanterne Rouge said:

9,064. You could fit `em all in the Lansdown (not that we`d want to).

9,064 you say? The bloke on the disabled gate made a killing today, tenner a pop cash only.

Real figure 9.5k. Loadsamoney ?

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38 minutes ago, myol'man said:

9,064 you say? The bloke on the disabled gate made a killing today, tenner a pop cash only.

Real figure 9.5k. Loadsamoney ?

I am sure every HMHB fan hears "John MacNamara, to the cash office please" when these posts appear. :)

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3 hours ago, Gert Mare said:

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They could always sit on the white plastic chairs for £23 and enjoy a fake Fanta and a packet of out of date crisps?

Then they’ve got the converted portaloo Santa’s Grotto and the condemned toilet block. What more do they want?!

A visit to "Santas Grotto" comes complete with an uncomfortable feeling and a rash. 

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6 hours ago, HitchinRed said:

Bristol Rovers fined £16,500 by FA for crowd trouble in Scunthorpe promotion game. 

I’m not sure that this will provide much of a deterrent for one of the richest clubs in the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62392726

I know every club has them, but my god it seems like every week something like this happens with the gappers.

They really need to think seriously about disassociating themselves with the words ‘family club’ unless of course they are referring to the ******* Kray’s!

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5 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:

I know every club has them, but my god it seems like every week something like this happens with the gappers.

They really need to think seriously about disassociating themselves with the words ‘family club’ unless of course they are referring to the ******* Kray’s!

 

Or this one:

 

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1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I've thought this before, but does anybody see a resemblance between Carolyn Jones and Liz Truss? 

 

She wishes.

Whenever I see Truss I think of a baffled-looking hen. The hen obviously has more brains, of course.

What do my hen's comb and wattle tell me? | British Hen Welfare Trust

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2 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Listening to Sagheads over the Summer you’d be forgiven for thinking they ran away with L2 last season. They seem to forget that they were third best behind 2 bigger Westcountry clubs.

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Top shithousery as always POHH but being a little pedantic

Pic 1) Is that its mother/ sister?

Pic 2) Too many teeth to be an authentic sag.

Pic 3) Confirmed: that's its Grandma. 

Pic 4) where's the foaming at the mouth?

Pic 5 & 6) Too much fiz if it's fake fanta.

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2 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

This popped up on my FB memories today, whilst the result from 10 years ago is obviously worth celebrating, my own comment about the stadium approval was far more pleasing!

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About that new stadium…

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11 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

Is it true SL paid the council to reject it? Love a conspiracy theory 

As always the council didnt reject it. I believe that they have never had a planning request turned down.

However they have never had the funds to actually go ahead with any of the plans that have been approved.

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2 minutes ago, martnewts said:

As always the council didnt reject it. I believe that they have never had a planning request turned down.

However they have never had the funds to actually go ahead with any of the plans that have been approved.

Correct, no application for Severnside, Hengrove, or Carsons green. Permission grated at the rugby ground after nobbling the committee. Permission granted for UWE after they proved it was needed, by inflating the attendance at Wembley, where grandparents, little children friends and their pets were al cajolled into pretending they were regulars.

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28 minutes ago, martnewts said:

As always the council didnt reject it. I believe that they have never had a planning request turned down.

However they have never had the funds to actually go ahead with any of the plans that have been approved.

100%.

With the exception of the plan to get Sainsbury’s to buy the Mem so they could fund a move to UWE, none of their other plans have ever stacked up financially.

They don’t ever get beyond the planning permission stage.

BCC (& South Glos) are keen to help them if they can, the latter because they would love a FL club in their patch, the former due to the high number of Gas in prominent positions within the organisation.
 

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29 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

100%.

With the exception of the plan to get Sainsbury’s to buy the Mem so they could fund a move to UWE, none of their other plans have ever stacked up financially.

They don’t ever get beyond the planning permission stage.

BCC (& South Glos) are keen to help them if they can, the latter because they would love a FL club in their patch, the former due to the high number of Gas in prominent positions within the organisation.
 

UWE wanted the stadium to be built but it was the sag's allegedly wealthy owner who pulled the plug. So even when their pipe dreams look like becoming a wet reality they pull the plug. 

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9 minutes ago, Swede said:

UWE wanted the stadium to be built but it was the sag's allegedly wealthy owner who pulled the plug. So even when their pipe dreams look like becoming a wet reality they pull the plug. 

Wasn't there something about the facilities being used when they weren't playing, but all profit went to UWE and not the sags? Same with sales like food and drink, sags saw no money from it? Or was that one of their many other supposed new stadiums?

 

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1 minute ago, Taz said:

Wasn't there something about the facilities being used when they weren't playing, but all profit went to UWE and not the sags? Same with sales like food and drink, sags saw no money from it? Or was that one of their many other supposed new stadiums?

 

I think that was more a case of 'if it's repeated often enough on the Internet, it becomes true' - a bit like the weekly wage of a player.

I don't imagine the unagreed contract was ever in the public domain so suggestions of how revenue would have been split would be no more than speculation.

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Just now, Taz said:

Wasn't there something about the facilities being used when they weren't playing, but all profit went to UWE and not the sags? Same with sales like food and drink, sags saw no money from it? Or was that one of their many other supposed new stadiums?

 

I believe you're correct. The trouble with the sags is that a former chairman went on record on a previous pipe dream stating that they only need the facility for one day a week if someone was to build [& pay for] it for them. So I think UWE would've been like Coventry's Ricoh or like their old dump at Eastville. 

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9 minutes ago, Taz said:

Wasn't there something about the facilities being used when they weren't playing, but all profit went to UWE and not the sags? Same with sales like food and drink, sags saw no money from it? Or was that one of their many other supposed new stadiums?

 

In fairness if it was left to the sags how many people in there right mind would drink fake fanta and stale crisps

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