cidercity1987 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: What were the size of the crowds Rovers used to get at Eastville? Once sugar daddy comes to his senses and goes, you'll be like a deflated balloon. An average of about 5,000 in the ten years before leaving Thanks for making me look that one up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Midlands Robin said: This is the last time I was in the stands for a home league match against the SAGs. It made my Christmas so much better. Especially when Beadle scored. It took away the memories of that awful game in Jan 96 when we lost 2-0 at home and it all kicked off at the end. Anyway, my actual point is, if our new poster Ashton Hero is under 22 years old, he wouldn't have been alive for a league match between us at Ashton Gate. The last time we played each other in the league was a 1-1 draw at the campsite on the 3rd April 2001. I can't think of two teams from any other City who have failed to play each other for that long. (Port Vale last played Stoke in the league on the 10th Feb 2002 for example). In theory, we've now got fans who were born, finished school, got married and had their first child and never watched a league match between us and the blue few. Taking the piss is the only thing that keeps the relationship on life support. Enjoy the memory: 27 and I've never seen a league game between the two of us, started going properly when I was 10-12, first game maybe 5-7, I have no memory of them ever being a competitor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: What were the size of the crowds Rovers used to get at Eastville? You’re talking about crowds from what, 50/60 years ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bredwood Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Who would you rather have a drink with? Barton is funny, a character and knows his football. Pearson is unfunny, unlikeable and a k*ob, and I have been told this by somebody who knows Vyner. You can tell that journalists like Barton, which is one of the reasons he gets so much press. Any sane person would rather have a drink with Pearson because if you’re drinking with the thug there’s a good chance you’ll either get a kick in the head or get shoved into a wall. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: A quick question for you. If it wasn't for Lansdown's extensive investment, do you think you would be in a higher league than them? Or, to put it differently, given the amount that Lansdown has invested in the club, is he not entitled to expect the gap (16 places) to be a lot, lot bigger? Lansdown had aspirations for you to be a lot, lot bigger than you actually are. When he leaves, my assumption is that equilibrium will bring you back down again. He's invested many years of his life and money in to Bristol City, when he leaves he won't be selling it to a charlatan fake billionaire with a nice watch, it'll be to a proper owner, I am very confident in that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, bredwood said: Any sane person would rather have a drink with Pearson because if you’re drinking with the thug there’s a good chance you’ll either get a kick in the head or get shoved into a wall. Or a cigar put out in your eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Who would you rather have a drink with? Barton is funny, a character and knows his football. Pearson is unfunny, unlikeable and a k*ob, and I have been told this by somebody who knows Vyner. You can tell that journalists like Barton, which is one of the reasons he gets so much press. I would never choose to have a drink with an, alleged, with beater & general crook. "CCTV showed Barton punching a man twenty times, causing him to lose consciousness, and attacking a teenager, breaking some of his teeth. On 20 May 2008, he was sentenced to six months in jail after pleading guilty for his part in the December 2007 assault." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Any more embarrassing than Pearson's press conferences? Somebody needs to tell him how to speak to people and to learn some manners. JB isn't everybody's cup of tea, but he has a sense of humour and some self-awareness. Pearson comes across as an utterly unlikable k*ob. You think Barton is coming over well? You think his press conferences aren't embarrassing? You think having him managing your club isn't embarrassing enough? 13 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Who would you rather have a drink with? Barton is funny, a character and knows his football. Pearson is unfunny, unlikeable and a k*ob, and I have been told this by somebody who knows Vyner. I'd rather have a drink with Pearson, every day of the week, and I'd buy every round, and pay for his taxi home, and then text him to make sure he got home ok, rather than spend 30 seconds in the company of Barton 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 And so The Gift continues to give. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: 27 and I've never seen a league game between the two of us, started going properly when I was 10-12, first game maybe 5-7, I have no memory of them ever being a competitor. It’s embarrassing. Soon you’ll have guys in their 30s to have never witnessed a league derby or any sort of competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: What were the size of the crowds Rovers used to get at Eastville? 3,576 3,472 3,428 Y'tw a t. Edited January 15, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Get to bed @Ashton Hero you’ve got school! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Lew-T said: You’re talking about crowds from what, 50/60 years ago? wrong, it was the early to mid 50s that Rovers last got decent gates, so about 70 years ago now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red DNA Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Lansdown had aspirations for you to be a lot, lot bigger than you actually are. When he leaves, my assumption is that equilibrium will bring you back down again. When he leaves, as with everything in life - it moves on, the club will be seen as much better run, better assets like ground with real stands, (not tents flapping in the wind) or an academy set up which is producing a number of very promising footballers and a decent training ground than many others in the EFL. The chance to part own the club will attract more suitors than even Irene did on her busiest Saturday night! 28 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Who would you rather have a drink with? Barton is funny, a character and knows his football. Pearson is unfunny, unlikeable and a k*ob, and I have been told this by somebody who knows Vyner. You can tell that journalists like Barton, which is one of the reasons he gets so much press. Not many people really like their bosses. By nature of the fact the boss decides what to pay you and when to sack you, he’ll never, really, be your ‘mate’. Nigel Pearson doesn’t want to be funny and spend his time being narcissistic to get attention from journalists on newspapers who’s business is to write in English yet don’t know how to spell or use grammar correctly - he is a man manager who tries (not always successful) to help people realise their potential on a tough profession (check how many fail to get professional contracts after being with a club since about 8…). Anyway, you shouldn’t be on here this time of night, Mummy will be upset you’re not tucked up in bed as you’ve got big school tomorrow. Edited January 15, 2023 by Red DNA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 The Gas haven't averaged above 10,000 for decades. Anyone who tries to compare their support to ours is completely deluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: He was actually cleared by a court of law, in large part because his wife retracted her initial statement. How many footballers and football fans have got caught up in incidents like this? Am I correct in recalling that former city players Orr, Partridge and Brooker also served time at her majesty's pleasure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: How many footballers and football fans have got caught up in incidents like this? Am I correct in recalling that former city players Orr, Partridge and Brooker also served time at her majesty's pleasure? Assault: In May 2008, Barton pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) for attacking a man in Liverpool city center. He was sentenced to six months in prison, but was released after serving 74 days. Assault: In May 2007, Barton pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) for punching a teenager in the face in Liverpool city center. He was given a four-month suspended sentence. Common Assault: Barton was convicted of common assault in December 2018 for an incident in which he allegedly punched a man in the face at a McDonald's in Liverpool. He was given a 12-month community order and ordered to pay costs. Gambling: Barton has had a history of gambling problems, which led to him receiving a fine and a ban from football in 2017. Assault on team-mate: In May 2011, Barton was arrested on suspicion of common assault and actual bodily harm following an altercation with a team-mate during a training session. He pleaded guilty to the charge of violent conduct and was subsequently given a six-match ban by the Football Association. Twitter Controversy: In 2011, Barton was given a fine by his club for "offensive and derogatory" comments he made on Twitter. Conduct towards Manchester City: In May 2012, Barton was given a 12-match ban by the Football Association for his conduct during his final match for Manchester City, which included attacking an opposing player and insulting a team-mate. Assault on a police officer: In May 2007, Barton was arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer in Liverpool city center. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was given a four-month suspended sentence. Fighting at a night club: In December 2007, Barton was arrested on suspicion of assault following a fight at a night club in Liverpool. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was given a four-month suspended sentence. In September 2016, Barton was handed an 18-month ban from football by the Football Association (FA) for breaking rules on betting. In March 2018, Barton was suspended by his club Fleetwood Town for allegedly placing over 1,200 bets on football matches over a period of 10 years. In 2019, Barton was given a suspended sentence and a fine for tax fraud. In September 2020, Barton was handed a 20-month suspended prison sentence for breaking the rules on football betting. It's worth noting that these are not all the incidents that Joey Barton has been involved in throughout his career, but are some of the most notable ones. 14 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: He was actually cleared by a court of law, in large part because his wife retracted her initial statement. The topic of Joey Barton's legal issues has been discussed extensively on the forum and you can find plenty of information by searching for it. However, it's important to note that the case was not dismissed, it was "stayed" meaning it was put on hold. This is not the same as being found not guilty. The reason the case was stayed is because his wife changed her statement. It's important to consider the power imbalance in their relationship and understand that when there is an imbalance of power, it is common for victims to change their statements. Organizations such as Women's Aid can provide more information on why this happens. Edited January 15, 2023 by Marcus Aurelius 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Not excusing them but you are comparing men fighting with bouncers to a man beating up his wife.Do you believe Barton did not assault his wife? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Just now, Ashton Hero said: His approach to man management is to belittle and bully people - you can see this from his press conferences. If you are going to carry on like that, you need to be successful. Since leaving Leicester, Nigel's managerial career has been a litany of relegation dogfights and falling out with people. Your debt is a millstone around your neck. You were almost subject to a transfer embargo last season and you have to hope that your sellable assets retain value or it is likely you will go the way of Derby or even Portsmouth. Mind the Gap Sunshine. Mind the Gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: His approach to man management is to belittle and bully people - you can see this from his press conferences. If you are going to carry on like that, you need to be successful. Since leaving Leicester, Nigel's managerial career has been a litany of relegation dogfights and falling out with people. Your debt is a millstone around your neck. You were almost subject to a transfer embargo last season and you have to hope that your sellable assets retain value or it is likely you will go the way of Derby or even Portsmouth. September 2020: Barton was handed a 20-month suspended prison sentence for breaking the rules on football betting. 2019: Barton was given a suspended sentence and a fine for tax fraud. March 2018: Barton was suspended by his club Fleetwood Town for allegedly placing over 1,200 bets on football matches over a period of 10 years. September 2016: Barton was handed an 18-month ban from football by the Football Association (FA) for breaking rules on betting. December 2007: Fighting at a night club: Barton was arrested on suspicion of assault following a fight at a night club in Liverpool. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was given a four-month suspended sentence. May 2007: Assault on a police officer: Barton was arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer in Liverpool city center. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was given a four-month suspended sentence. May 2012: Conduct towards Manchester City: Barton was given a 12-match ban by the Football Association for his conduct during his final match for Manchester City, which included attacking an opposing player and insulting a team-mate. 2011: Twitter Controversy: Barton was given a fine by his club for "offensive and derogatory" comments he made on Twitter. May 2011: Assault on team-mate: Barton was arrested on suspicion of common assault and actual bodily harm following an altercation with a team-mate during a training session. He pleaded guilty to the charge of violent conduct and was subsequently given a six-match ban by the Football Association. Gambling: Barton has had a history of gambling problems, which led to him receiving a fine and a ban from football in 2017. December 2018: Common Assault: Barton was convicted of common assault for an incident in which he allegedly punched a man in the face at a McDonald's in Liverpool. He was given a 12-month community order and ordered to pay costs. May 2007: Assault: Barton pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) for punching a teenager in the face in Liverpool city center. He was given a four-month suspended sentence. May 2008: Assault: Barton pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) for attacking a man in Liverpool city center. He was sentenced to six months in prison, but was released after serving 74 days. It's worth noting that these are not all the incidents that Joey Barton has been involved in throughout his career, but are some of the most notable ones. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Your debt is a millstone around your neck. You were almost subject to a transfer embargo last season and you have to hope that your sellable assets retain value or it is likely you will go the way of Derby or even Portsmouth. Our debt is the only way that you can compete in the Championship and above, any argument against that is naive at best and stupidity at worst, I don't believe there is a single club that is not 'in debt'. Re Portsmouth, one of the main reasons was the club's ownership structure, which had changed multiple times in a short period of time. The previous owners had invested large amounts of money into the club to fund player transfers and wage increases, but were unable to generate sufficient revenues to cover these expenses. Additionally, the club had also invested heavily in a new stadium and training facilities, which further increased their financial burden. Furthermore, the club's high wage bill was another major factor in their financial troubles. Portsmouth had a relatively high wage bill compared to other teams in the same league, and as a result, they were unable to generate enough revenues to cover the wages of the players. The club was also facing financial penalties for not paying its taxes on time, and was unable to make payments on the loans it had taken out. This led to the club being unable to pay its bills and suppliers, which prompted the administration. If you can give any proof that Lansdown would follow a similar path, considering his history with us, then fair enough, I may listen to your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Marcus Aurelius said: September 2020: Barton was handed a 20-month suspended prison sentence for breaking the rules on football betting. 2019: Barton was given a suspended sentence and a fine for tax fraud. March 2018: Barton was suspended by his club Fleetwood Town for allegedly placing over 1,200 bets on football matches over a period of 10 years. September 2016: Barton was handed an 18-month ban from football by the Football Association (FA) for breaking rules on betting. December 2007: Fighting at a night club: Barton was arrested on suspicion of assault following a fight at a night club in Liverpool. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was given a four-month suspended sentence. May 2007: Assault on a police officer: Barton was arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer in Liverpool city center. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was given a four-month suspended sentence. May 2012: Conduct towards Manchester City: Barton was given a 12-match ban by the Football Association for his conduct during his final match for Manchester City, which included attacking an opposing player and insulting a team-mate. 2011: Twitter Controversy: Barton was given a fine by his club for "offensive and derogatory" comments he made on Twitter. May 2011: Assault on team-mate: Barton was arrested on suspicion of common assault and actual bodily harm following an altercation with a team-mate during a training session. He pleaded guilty to the charge of violent conduct and was subsequently given a six-match ban by the Football Association. Gambling: Barton has had a history of gambling problems, which led to him receiving a fine and a ban from football in 2017. December 2018: Common Assault: Barton was convicted of common assault for an incident in which he allegedly punched a man in the face at a McDonald's in Liverpool. He was given a 12-month community order and ordered to pay costs. May 2007: Assault: Barton pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) for punching a teenager in the face in Liverpool city center. He was given a four-month suspended sentence. May 2008: Assault: Barton pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) for attacking a man in Liverpool city center. He was sentenced to six months in prison, but was released after serving 74 days. It's worth noting that these are not all the incidents that Joey Barton has been involved in throughout his career, but are some of the most notable ones. Didn’t he stub out a cigar in the face of a Man City youth player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_USA Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Who would you rather have a drink with? Barton is funny, a character and knows his football. Pearson is unfunny, unlikeable and a k*ob, and I have been told this by somebody who knows Vyner. You can tell that journalists like Barton, which is one of the reasons he gets so much press. Your blue tinted glasses need a damn good cleaning. You think that Barton is funny? He's anything but funny. I would gather that most people who don't even have any affiliation with either the blue or Red side of Bristol would stay well clear of a person who may beat the sh!t out of them or stub a cigar in their eye, for fear of looking at him the wrong way. Not to mention having a few too many drinks and going home to beat the cr@p out of his wife. Not the type of character most sane people would want to associate with let alone down a few pints with. As for who journalist like, I'll give you Mr Donald Trump or Jeffrey Dhamer. Terrible human beings but a journalists dream. The type of person you want representing your club? I get that you're defending your manager, but lets face it, the only people that are giving him the benefit of doubt are the very few blue few amongst you lot that also crave the attention, positive or not. I know of plenty of your lot that are embarrassed of his association with your club. First hand that is, not by somebody who know somebody. Let's see how this pans out and whether or not you can pull up your tent pegs and build a real football stadium that the Accrington Stanley fans would be prowed to visit. Who are they? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I really need to get to bed but this thread tonight is too funny to miss. Open goals everywhere. Surely Ashton Hero really is a City fan and is doing a double agent job just to give us all a laugh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Ashton Hero said: Any more embarrassing than Pearson's press conferences? Somebody needs to tell him how to speak to people and to learn some manners. JB isn't everybody's cup of tea, but he has a sense of humour and some self-awareness. Pearson comes across as an utterly unlikable k*ob. Still Nige doesn’t beat up women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ashton Hero said: Any more embarrassing than Pearson's press conferences? Somebody needs to tell him how to speak to people and to learn some manners. JB isn't everybody's cup of tea, but he has a sense of humour and some self-awareness. Pearson comes across as an utterly unlikable k*ob. Obviously obsessed with us aren’t you 15er. You even watch Pearson’s press conferences . I got gas mates like you. Desperately hate us because of your own ineptitude . So desperate for us to get relegated because success for you is just being in the same league as us . What truly is embarrassing is faking your a fan of another club to go on their forum you sad pathetic dick Edited January 15, 2023 by steviestevieneville 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Malago said: Didn’t he stub out a cigar in the face of a Man City youth player. Yep, and that youth players career nose dived after to the point he beat up his girlfriend…..this was Barton’s take on it….. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: His approach to man management is to belittle and bully people - you can see this from his press conferences. If you are going to carry on like that, you need to be successful. Since leaving Leicester, Nigel's managerial career has been a litany of relegation dogfights and falling out with people. Your debt is a millstone around your neck. You were almost subject to a transfer embargo last season and you have to hope that your sellable assets retain value or it is likely you will go the way of Derby or even Portsmouth. You haven’t got a clue you ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sglosbcfc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: Actually it was as recently as only 70 seasons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: His approach to man management is to belittle and bully people - you can see this from his press conferences. How many times has Pearson been in court for being a “bully”? Barton has regularly thrown his own players under the bus, publicly….. https://fanbanter.co.uk/joey-barton-reveals-he-doesnt-trust-his-own-player-and-regrets-giving-two-year-contract/ how many opposition managers has he slagged off to the press because they had the audacity to beat you? the man is a thug, a bully, a hypocrite and has absolutely no self-awareness….a match made in heaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: As other contributors to this thread have informed me, its actually natural for a city fan to take an interest in rovers affairs and vice-versa. Its unfortunate that there aren't more forums where fans of both clubs can interact and communicate, preferably without resorting to cheap and stupid insults, as you have done - I see educational standards and general standards of civility haven't improved in south Bristol since I last visited. Surprised (and disappointed) you got out unscathed considering the way you conduct yourself; perhaps you should stick to those charming areas of North Bristol such as Speedwell, Lawrence Hill, Easton and St Paul’s to see the best of humanity... As for forums where both sets of supporters can interact - chance’d be a fine thing; blame that on the Gastard scum who shut down all dissenting voices in their hilarious Conference relegation season and will tolerate no whiff of anything other than unalloyed praise to the w_@nks in Quarters on A$$hat. So, consider yourself privileged for being able to come on here and say what you want. Far from all of us are Lansdown fanboys BTW, he’s made a lot of mistakes and in the grand scheme of things the financial backing he’s given our is pocket change (sadly). Still, could be worse - could have been bought by an utter charlatan who convinced the Pisspoorial’s gullible fan base he was going to take them to the top and lo and behold seven years later they are still flat broke. Edited January 15, 2023 by WessexPest 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Ashton Hero said: A quick question for you. If it wasn't for Lansdown's extensive investment, do you think you would be in a higher league than them? Or, to put it differently, given the amount that Lansdown has invested in the club, is he not entitled to expect the gap (16 places) to be a lot, lot bigger? Lansdown had aspirations for you to be a lot, lot bigger than you actually are. When he leaves, my assumption is that equilibrium will bring you back down again. Actually, throughout most of both club's history, we've been in a higher league than Rovers. Think we had Lansdown when we were in the old First Division in the late 70s? Stats - which you Gasheads are so fond of - will attest we've been better supported since the late 50s (and Rovers' dominance then was only fleeting, City was the bigger club for decades before that) and historically been higher in the league ladder since before Lansdown was a majority shareholder. With a better stadium, better training ground, bigger fanbase and successful academy, City represent a decent punt for wannabe owners, when the Lansdown's leave. With perhaps the league's most shambolic ground, poor home support and facilities that make Peter Kay's Phoenix Club look plush, the Gas do not. Which is why, with a junior member of the top 20 wealthiest families from the Arab world's second poorest state, Rovers are punching above their weight with Chelsea-fan Wally. You'll never improve. Mind the gap. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: You haven't answered my question. You don't think Lansdown is disappointed with how it turned out? Yes, I'm sure he's disappointed that we aren't in the Premier League, what's the point you're trying to make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, Ashton Hero said: You haven't answered my question. You don't think Lansdown is disappointed with how it turned out? I don't know him. He seems quite canny and I'd imagine he has always known that football club ownership is money-losing, but local prestige building, exercise for the vast majority of owners. We've bumped around the second tier for yonks now, but with parachute payments and FFP rules it's a tough step to take to progress. Much harder than it was prior to the PL era of TV millions. For him, it is a hobby, that has taken a small percentage of his substantial fortune. Be interested in how much of his dosh from being 15% owner of Jordan's third largest bank has been invested in the Gas by Wally. He was carried down Gloucester Road by the ecstatic Blue Few in 2016, think he's disappointed that you're being turned over by Accrington Stanley and have only three more points than we have, during a shit season for us? Face it, you're going nowhere, nor are we. But we're not sitting in B&Q seats and drinking out-of-date Fanta. 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: You haven't answered my question. You don't think Lansdown is disappointed with how it turned out? He’s delivered us a stadium at least. Not been following your plans. What’s the latest on UWE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: We're all adults - so presumably we can interact without insults and keep it to good-humoured banter and witty exchanges. Rivalry is healthy but bitterness and bile are not. I don't like a lot of what goes down on the official BRFC forum, where the moderators adopt a Stalinist line on any criticism of Wael or Barton. Lansdown has made a lot of mistakes with his money. From where I'm sitting, he has let his heart rule his head in the level of his investment. Others may not be so willing, so be careful for what you wish for. I’m under no illusions - SL may be the devil we know, but what he has not been is an Abramovich type figure who has given us inexhaustible resources that we have merely squandered; the Gas love to paint us as a mega rich club but in the grand scheme of things we are Argos shoppers. Feel free to ignore me, then, if you don’t want bile where the Gassholes are concerned - I hate them with the heat of 100,000 red giant stars (or 10,000,000 Gas dwarfs - with another 500,000,000 locked out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I think SL sees it more as a legacy than a project.Just my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, Ashton Hero said: You don't need to know him. He has quite clearly stated that the Championship is not the limit of his ambition. As a top businessman we can presume that he would want to lead a top football club, which City clearly aren't at present. Lansdown doesn't settle for second-best in his business relations, so why would he accept it on the football field. He is used to working with top professionals in his field which, with all due respect, Pearson isn't. After Leicester, its pretty much been a downward trajectory. Does the city 'project' look exciting? Not really, it looks and sounds more like a commitment or even obligation. Given the amounts invested, I'm thinking that putting on a purely business 'hat' might lead him to look to invest elsewhere, in something that is a better use of his money and time. Because - and this should be obvious - founding a business dealing with stocks and shares in the sell-nationalised-assets- off swashbuckling financial regime of the 1980s is different than owning a football club in the 2020s. Do you honestly think Lansdown thought he'd make loads of money from Bristol City? From what I know of the guy, he's far too intelligent to think owning a club, this century, in Bristol, is going to bring instant success and increased wealth. He owned loads of money already. Of course, it'd be nice to be a PL owner, but I understand the guy actually has perspective. It's a vanity project! It is for 99% of owners. Reckon Wael makes money from the 6,000 ST holders at the minimal? You're embarrassing yourself with your gaseous fantasies that our club crumbles without Lansdown. In real estate alone, it's worth more. In potential, vastly more. Don't worry about us. Worry about yourselves. (BTW how high up the league ladder has Joseph Deacon achieved as a manager compared to Nigel Pearson? Just askin') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I don't know him. He seems quite canny and I'd imagine he has always known that football club ownership is money-losing, but local prestige building, exercise for the vast majority of owners. We've bumped around the second tier for yonks now, but with parachute payments and FFP rules it's a tough step to take to progress. Much harder than it was prior to the PL era of TV millions. For him, it is a hobby, that has taken a small percentage of his substantial fortune. Be interested in how much of his dosh from being 15% owner of Jordan's third largest bank has been invested in the Gas by Wally. He was carried down Gloucester Road by the ecstatic Blue Few in 2016, think he's disappointed that you're being turned over by Accrington Stanley and have only three more points than we have, during a shit season for us? Face it, you're going nowhere, nor are we. But we're not sitting in B&Q seats and drinking out-of-date Fanta. Mr Al-Quidi Jnr is listed as being the owner of an 8.5% stake in AJIB worth £ 18.7 million. But there is speculation over this having been pledged to cover the £ 22 million contributed to Rovers as capital and that no more will be forthcoming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, bert tann said: Mr Al-Quidi Jnr is listed as being the owner of an 8.5% stake in AJIB worth £ 18.7 million. But there is speculation over this having been pledged to cover the £ 22 million contributed to Rovers as capital and that no more will be forthcoming. Thanks Bert. I was accidentally bigging him up by having him at 15%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: He's delivered you a stadium - wouldn't you prefer a half-decent football team? I’d argue he HAS delivered us a half-decent football team - a couple of seasons where we’ve been on nodding terms with the playoffs and some memorable cup nights. He hasn’t made us a decent team but that’s as much down to the decisions that have been made as opposed to financial backing (arguably hiring Johnson, certainly the Holden debacle). Under Wael on the other hand - a man who we were assured would make the Gash the sixth richest team in England or whatever it was - the Gash are no further forward either on or off the pitch than they were under hated Higgs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 52 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: But the key point is that there's no sense of direction, impetus or momentum. And in recent seasons, its been nodding terms from a very long distance. You are treading water. Your Lansdown life jacket will keep you afloat, but won't take you any further to where you want to go. And what if it deflates? Under Higgs, the Rovers were in the Conference. Under Wael, they are 8th in L1. You won’t get a throaty defence of Lansdown from me but trusty buyers are like hen’s teeth. We’ll be fine however it shakes out - thanks for your concern. We might have to sell players but we aren’t going to flog them to our local rivals for the equivalent of a packet of Fruit Pastilles and half a curly Wurly. Higgs took over when the Rent Boys were L1. They’re still L1 - and have gone down on his watch. For a man of unlimited wealth there’s been no rocket propulsion up the league structure. Whatever my frustrations with the BS3 regime I wouldn’t swap it for the set up the Rubbish North of the River have for all the tea in China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: But the key point is that there's no sense of direction, impetus or momentum. And in recent seasons, its been nodding terms from a very long distance. You are treading water. Your Lansdown life jacket will keep you afloat, but won't take you any further to where you want to go. And what if it deflates? Under Higgs, the Rovers were in the Conference. Under Wael, they are 8th in L1. I'd argue we are at our natural level in the championship, you might say it's treading water, but as we all know parachute payments have made it very difficult to compete, so you need to spend a lot of ££££ to just stay afloat at this level, which is what we have done. Rovers fans may scoff that SL has wasted millions and we haven't got anywhere, but some of the problems are that he spent loads before we had the infrastructure in place, then when we finally did have the decent ground etc he gave the ££££ to Ashton who didn't spend it wisely. If Rovers get promoted without improving the infrastructure then they will go back down, it's as simple as that. They won't be able to generate the income required to compete. If Wael tries to compete then this will mean actually spending some of his supposed fortune for the first time, as he won't generate anything from match day revenue, and the academy isn't at the level required to find top players and sell them on, and that's when the problems will really start, as to get the decent players into a club which on paper is probably punching above their weight, especially in terms of stadium and training facilities, you need to pay top ££££ and then you will have players on big contracts you can't afford when you go down etc etc etc and you end up screwed financially. Obviously the great thing about being a football supporter is the dream to play at the highest level, but these days that dream requires loads of £££££ to stand any chance. Edited January 16, 2023 by Tinmans Love Child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: A quick question for you. If it wasn't for Lansdown's extensive investment, do you think you would be in a higher league than them? I’ve covered this on here recently Saghead, but just for you… Lansdowns Billions hasn’t prevented Torquay, Stevenage, Rochdale, Scunthorpe, Yeovil, Colchester, Crawley, Tranmere, Shrewsbury, Fleetwood, Chesterfield, Burton Albion, Wycombe, Northampton, Wrexham, Gillingham, Hartlepool and many more being on a par or above us in the League since the last time Rovers were. So apart from being utterly shit, what’s your excuse now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: Once sugar daddy comes to his senses and goes, you'll be like a deflated balloon. Are you talking about Lansdown or Wally? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Marcus Aurelius said: I can answer that. 82/83….that’s the one season in the last 55 years that the Boca Juniors of Bristol have averaged higher home crowds than us (about 1k more iirc). The following season we averaged more than them and we were in a lower division The ‘Peoples club’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: We're all adults - so presumably we can interact without insults and keep it to good-humoured banter and witty exchanges. Rivalry is healthy but bitterness and bile are not. Why didn’t you just come on here and be honest about who you support instead of this cringeworthy behaviour? You could’ve just asked all the dumb questions you want from the beginning instead of posting snidey comments pretending you’re one of us? Great way to start a Monday this Edited January 16, 2023 by Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: How wonderfully south Bristolian. Thank you. I’m from east Bristol sunshine. It’s true though. Typical gas , presuming something about someone . The Pearson you see in press conferences is not the one behind closed doors as many of his ex players will testify. The neck to even try & belittle him when your own manager is a woman beating thug is quite remarkable. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: But the key point is that there's no sense of direction, impetus or momentum. And in recent seasons, its been nodding terms from a very long distance. You are treading water. Your Lansdown life jacket will keep you afloat, but won't take you any further to where you want to go. And what if it deflates? Under Higgs, the Rovers were in the Conference. Under Wael, they are 8th in L1. The funny thing is . Apart from a couple of years in the early eighties we’ve always been the bigger club no matter who the owners have been . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: As other contributors to this thread have informed me, its actually natural for a city fan to take an interest in rovers affairs and vice-versa. Its unfortunate that there aren't more forums where fans of both clubs can interact and communicate, preferably without resorting to cheap and stupid insults, as you have done - I see educational standards and general standards of civility haven't improved in south Bristol since I last visited. But you still felt the need to lie about who you actually support to come on here . Fans of other clubs are welcome on here unlike the North Korean forum ran by your fans . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreedyHarry Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: But the key point is that there's no sense of direction, impetus or momentum. And in recent seasons, its been nodding terms from a very long distance. You are treading water. Your Lansdown life jacket will keep you afloat, but won't take you any further to where you want to go. And what if it deflates? Under Higgs, the Rovers were in the Conference. Under Wael, they are 8th in L1. You really don’t understand how FFP in the championship works do you? But then, why would you, having never experienced it. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: His approach to man management is to belittle and bully people - you can see this from his press conferences. If you are going to carry on like that, you need to be successful. Since leaving Leicester, Nigel's managerial career has been a litany of relegation dogfights and falling out with people. Your debt is a millstone around your neck. You were almost subject to a transfer embargo last season and you have to hope that your sellable assets retain value or it is likely you will go the way of Derby or even Portsmouth. First of all nobody apart from the players know what Pearson’s / Barton’s man management is like and depending on whether a player is playing regularly or not playing at all is likely to impact their response / thoughts. I’d suggest you look at Pearson towards Baker when he was paraded on the potency at half time. I’d also look at players like James & King who’ve come to city for Pearson. Barton is doing a good job at Rovers but would I want him at city - no chance. As for what happens when Lansdown eventually sells city - who knows. We could end up with a fake billionaire without a pot to piss in or we could be taken over and be be stronger due to it. Time will tell. But I’d rather have Pearson @ Lansdown at our club rather than Barton and Wally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Interesting weekend for a fewer to pick a fight, off the back of defeat to Accrington (again) Thicker than a whale omelette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 9 hours ago, sglosbcfc said: Actually it was as recently as only 70 seasons ago. 'Similar sized clubs if it wasn't for Lansdown....' Stephen Lansdown , working miracles since birth 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wittydisplayname Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: But the key point is that there's no sense of direction, impetus or momentum. And in recent seasons, its been nodding terms from a very long distance. You are treading water. Your Lansdown life jacket will keep you afloat, but won't take you any further to where you want to go. And what if it deflates? Under Higgs, the Rovers were in the Conference. Under Wael, they are 8th in L1. Werent you 8th in L1 with Higgs, at any time? You also finished 24th in L1 under Wael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: But the key point is that there's no sense of direction, impetus or momentum. And in recent seasons, its been nodding terms from a very long distance. You are treading water. Your Lansdown life jacket will keep you afloat, but won't take you any further to where you want to go. And what if it deflates? Under Higgs, the Rovers were in the Conference. Under Wael, they are 8th in L1. And that's your pride filled boast. Can't wait for school to kick out. I'll check in later for more gift given laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: We're all adults Well, we are. No doubt we’ll hear from you again at break time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, GreedyHarry said: You really don’t understand how FFP in the championship works do you? But then, why would you, having never experienced it. This. Every ******* day. Ask Wigan & Rotherham how easy it is to compete in The Championship, both automatically promoted from L1 last year & now scrapping for their lives at the bottom. Most years 2 sides go straight back down, (Rotherham have 3 times in a row) it’s absolutely brutal. Mind you, if you haven’t played at this level for 30 years why would you even have the first idea about it? As for the stadium stuff I’m not sure a club playing in a tented village really wants to bring that up, but you have zero chance of competing without one that generates income on non match days, but again this is like explaining something about physics to a chimpanzee, being gas you don’t have a ******* clue, pal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dosser Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: But the key point is that there's no sense of direction, impetus or momentum. And in recent seasons, its been nodding terms from a very long distance. You are treading water. Your Lansdown life jacket will keep you afloat, but won't take you any further to where you want to go. And what if it deflates? Under Higgs, the Rovers were in the Conference. Under Wael, they are 8th in L1. 8th in league 1 i think your forgetting all the teams with games in hand higgs and wael 7000to 9000 fans steve l 19000 to to 24000 higgs and weal 2 stadiums fit for the conference sl stadium fit for the prem with add ons to come higgs and weal training ground fit for the downs sl 10m training ground better than alot of prem sides higgs and weal bit part academy with no profit sl academy which has all ready made good profit on home grown talent with more to come rovers asset arron collins 1m to 3m city asset alex scott 15m to 25m plus a few more i could go on but whats the point you gasheads are in a world of your own 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: But the key point is that there's no sense of direction, impetus or momentum. And in recent seasons, its been nodding terms from a very long distance. You are treading water. Your Lansdown life jacket will keep you afloat, but won't take you any further to where you want to go. And what if it deflates? Under Higgs, the Rovers were in the Conference. Under Wael, they are 8th in L1. If we're "treading water" then you must be fully submerged, as you aren't "16 places below" us. You're an entire division. It won't happen this season but it is vaguely possible at some undefined point in the future Rovers will pay one of their fleeting visits to the Championship. They'll play teams with bigger crowds, better stadia, bigger budgets and endure the ridicule of a much wider range of fans, when they visit the Conference South styled Memorial Stadium. Then, unable to compete, you'll be relegated. The second tier is a very different prospect these days than it was in the distant past when you were last here. There are international players in the sides of the yo-yo clubs earning more than the wage bill of the entire squad at Horfield. And eventually, your "Gas for life" owner will stop pumping in the money you require to underwrite debt and you'll be up for sale. But with dilapidated facilities and not much support, you'll not be much of a marquee purchase for anyone with real money and ambition. So, the more interesting question is, how far will the Gas sink without the al-Qadi lifejacket. As leaky as that garment is, it's all that enables you to compete in the third tier. 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Christ. Imagine getting giddy about being 8th in Lg 1. That is about as good as its going to get @Ashton Hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: If we're "treading water" then you must be fully submerged, as you aren't "16 places below" us. You're an entire division. It won't happen this season but it is vaguely possible at some undefined point in the future Rovers will pay one of their fleeting visits to the Championship. They'll play teams with bigger crowds, better stadia, bigger budgets and endure the ridicule of a much wider range of fans, when they visit the Conference South styled Memorial Stadium. Then, unable to compete, you'll be relegated. The second tier is a very different prospect these days than it was in the distant past when you were last here. There are international players in the sides of the yo-yo clubs earning more than the wage bill of the entire squad at Horfield. And eventually, your "Gas for life" owner will stop pumping in the money you require to underwrite debt and you'll be up for sale. But with dilapidated facilities and not much support, you'll not be much of a marquee purchase for anyone with real money and ambition. So, the more interesting question is, how far will the Gas sink without the al-Qadi lifejacket. As leaky as that garment is, it's all that enables you to compete in the third tier. Run out of ‘likes’ but this is spot on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: His approach to man management is to belittle and bully people - you can see this from his press conferences. If you are going to carry on like that, you need to be successful. Since leaving Leicester, Nigel's managerial career has been a litany of relegation dogfights and falling out with people. Your debt is a millstone around your neck. You were almost subject to a transfer embargo last season and you have to hope that your sellable assets retain value or it is likely you will go the way of Derby or even Portsmouth. I’m not sure what you expected him to achieve at Watford, as they were rock bottom when he took over, they beat Liverpool 3-0 under him & were outside the drop zone when they sacked him with 2 games to go. Ask Nathan Baker what he’s like to work for, I get the feeling it won’t be what you want to think. Edited January 16, 2023 by GrahamC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 20 hours ago, TheReds said: What was with Saint Joey walking off before the end of the match yesterday? Is it another "look at me" type action from him? Seems very bizarre, selfish and a bit disrespectful to everyone involved, but there doesn't seem to be any outrage for it (no questions from the interviewer after either, was he scared to ask)? I misread "walking" and thought Joey had stooped to a new low. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: He was actually cleared by a court of law, in large part because his wife retracted her initial statement. How many footballers and football fans have got caught up in incidents like this? Am I correct in recalling that former city players Orr, Partridge and Brooker also served time at her majesty's pleasure? I'll raise you David Pipe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: We're all adults - so presumably we can interact without insults and keep it to good-humoured banter and witty exchanges. Rivalry is healthy but bitterness and bile are not. I don't like a lot of what goes down on the official BRFC forum, where the moderators adopt a Stalinist line on any criticism of Wael or Barton. Lansdown has made a lot of mistakes with his money. From where I'm sitting, he has let his heart rule his head in the level of his investment. Others may not be so willing, so be careful for what you wish for. Adult? You've come onto a City forum, pretending to be a City fan, spent your time praising your thug of a manager and slating ours because he's 'not very nice in press conferences' and then tried telling us what we already know in that Lansdowns money should have returned more than a League Cup semi final, while your owner is giving Will Smith a Rovers shirt that he's probably using to wash his car with. You are have provided nothing good humoured or witty btw 9 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: He's delivered you a stadium - wouldn't you prefer a half-decent football team? A team in the Championship for 8 consecutive seasons is the stuff of Rovers fans wet dreams. You'll be lucky if you stay up in League One for 8 years before revisiting League Two again. We've got two players who are individually worth more than your entire squad, players who have played in World Cups and won Premier Leagues, and play against similar players every week. So politely, don't come at us talking about half decent teams, you wouldn't know one if you saw one. We've got a game against a former Premier League winning team on Saturday, you worry about Wycombe Wanderers. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: you'll not be much of a marquee purchase for anyone with real money and ambition How right you are Robbo! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, TonyTonyTony said: Christ. Imagine getting giddy about being 8th in Lg 1. That is about as good as its going to get @Ashton Hero I can't remember what happened last time we were in league 1. Anyone? Anyone help me out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I can't remember what happened last time we were in league 1. Anyone? Anyone help me out? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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