Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[Port Said Red]

25 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Philosopher Daniel Dennett introduced the word deepity to describe sayings that sound profound but are actually trivial or meaningless.

You'd think Barton, a renowned philosopher himself, would know Dennett's work.

I read that and heard this for some reason.

https://youtu.be/to0l73sMhew

[NOTBLUE]

1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

I read that and heard this for some reason.

https://youtu.be/to0l73sMhew

What sort of person are you,just when ‘Right Dick Head’ had been erased from my memory,you post that .

[beaverface]

1 hour ago, NOTBLUE said:

What sort of person are you,just when ‘Right Dick Head’ had been erased from my memory,you post that .

Try erasing it with this instead....

 

[CiderJar]

They hates drawling they does
 

 

[RedLionLad]

17 minutes ago, CiderJar said:

They hates drawling they does
 

 

I find it quite sad that a father would write something like that for his son to sing…

[NOTBLUE]

1 hour ago, RedLionLad said:

I find it quite sad that a father would write something like that for his son to sing…

The son wrote it,the father can’t write.

[BS3City]

5 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

I find it quite sad that a father would write something like that for his son to sing…

The father could well be his uncle or brother...

[Lanterne Rouge]

36 minutes ago, BS3City said:

The father could well be his uncle or brother...

Or both

[RedEd73]

1 hour ago, BS3City said:

The father could well be his uncle or brother...

Same person

[Bristol Rob]

44 minutes ago, RedEd73 said:

Same person

 

[myol'man]

Sister from the same fister? 

[Laner]

Not sure if this has been posted before, but made me laugh when it popped-up on my Facebook feed....

[TinMan's left peg]

1 hour ago, Laner said:

Not sure if this has been posted before, but made me laugh when it popped-up on my Facebook feed....

Ashton gate in 1950 looks a lot more advanced to me than the minimal patch in 2023.

[42nite]

58 minutes ago, TinMan's left peg said:

Ashton gate in 1950 looks a lot more advanced to me than the minimal patch in 2023.

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Maybe a little pedantic here but that's the 60's or 70's?

You couldn't expect the sags to have anything as modern as that up at the swamp.

 

Edited April 1, 2023 by 42nite

[42nite]

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Edited April 1, 2023 by 42nite

[Kingswood Robin]

I've seen pictures of the original east end roof in 1912 that look similar to somewhere not far from here today

    

[Jim Davey]

On 01/04/2023 at 08:32, TinMan's left peg said:

Ashton gate in 1950 looks a lot more advanced to me than the minimal patch in 2023.

When did the wall in front of the enclosure get built?

[slartibartfast]

On 01/04/2023 at 09:28, 42nite said:

Maybe a little pedantic here but that's the 60's or 70's?

You couldn't expect the sags to have anything as modern as that up at the swamp.

 

Between 65 & 76...............clue being floodlights  and back wall (which was painted white when we got promoted ).

[GrahamC]

Anyway, how’s permission for that new stand coming along?

[cider hoss rules]

18 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Anyway, how’s permission for that new stand coming along?

The new stadium at the FM wasn’t mentioned as part of the Temple Quay or St Phillips redevelopment on Points West tonight, so it must nearly be finished now.

Maybe that is delaying the new (non) tent at Membley.

Edited April 3, 2023 by cider hoss rules

[redsquirrel]

given how long its taking them to get started on a decent stadium, would i be right in thinking steve lansdown drew up plans for our redevelopment round about the turn of the 20th century?? (circa 1901 ish)

[myol'man]

14 hours ago, cider hoss rules said:

The new stadium at the FM wasn’t mentioned as part of the Temple Quay or St Phillips redevelopment on Points West tonight, so it must nearly be finished now.

Maybe that is delaying the new (non) tent at Membley.

Property prices must have taken a hit in the Fruit Market area, this developement next to Totterdown Bridge has come to a grinding halt with no progress in the last 6 months. Maybe the view of da Roverz new stadium is putting off potential buyers?

[RedLionLad]

8 hours ago, myol'man said:

Property prices must have taken a hit in the Fruit Market area, this developement next to Totterdown Bridge has come to a grinding halt with no progress in the last 6 months. Maybe the view of da Roverz new stadium is putting off potential buyers?

Who the hell would want to live there? Especially the lowest levels

[richyy66]

On 29/03/2023 at 12:05, Eddie Hitler said:

 

Yes, I saw or read one of their players saying that the old strength of Yeovil was that all the players used to live in the town.

This isn't some sepia-tinged memory but from the time when GJ / LJ were there.

You're not going to beat that for team spirit and the town getting behind the club, hence the overachieving and cup runs.

 

If the owners however treat it as just another club then that is what it will become.

 

8 hours ago, myol'man said:

Property prices must have taken a hit in the Fruit Market area, this developement next to Totterdown Bridge has come to a grinding halt with no progress in the last 6 months. Maybe the view of da Roverz new stadium is putting off potential buyers?

The company that built them went bust. They are looking for a new invester to finish the inside of the building. No takers so far. Shambles

[redsquirrel]

42 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

Who the hell would want to live there? Especially the lowest levels

is that the same stretch that runs up the back of the dogs home? if so, when i worked at mototech, on a hot day at low tide ,it used to stink

[TV Tom]

1 hour ago, redsquirrel said:

is that the same stretch that runs up the back of the dogs home? if so, when i worked at mototech, on a hot day at low tide ,it used to stink

Just up from the dogs home but on the other side of the river

[myol'man]

Not enough of the blue few going through the (pay) turnstiles?

Big losses 

[Barrs Court Red]

So a loss of £3.7m in the latest accounts. Their future is bleaker than choosing the left overs at 3am jn Chasers. 

 

[myol'man]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-report-record-losses-8323652

[myol'man]

2 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

So a loss of £3.7m in the latest accounts. Their future is bleaker than choosing the left overs at 3am jn Chasers. 

 

Even Dean Windass legged it when the lights came on

[Coombsy]

They will build a new stadium at the trading ground it will be a 10 Thousand  seater’s stadium 

 

[petehinton]

44 minutes ago, myol'man said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-report-record-losses-8323652

“In budget but bonuses took them over”

So…they weren’t in budget. Plucky Rovers needing a prem player in L2 to scrape getting them promotion. 

[Taz]

2 hours ago, redsquirrel said:

is that the same stretch that runs up the back of the dogs home? if so, when i worked at mototech, on a hot day at low tide ,it used to stink

I used to work at City Link in Barton Hill and on a bad day you could smell it from there as well!!

Must be awful that close to it!

[redsquirrel]

8 hours ago, Taz said:

I used to work at City Link in Barton Hill and on a bad day you could smell it from there as well!!

Must be awful that close to it!

pretty flippin rank tbh

[Port Said Red]

50 minutes ago, TomF said:

Midas who ironically sold their HQ land to SL for the sporting quarter development I think? 
 

Recently been a land slip next to that site on riverbank very close to the ground level… not sure I’d so keen on moving in.. especially with the view of Bristol Waste, The Fruitmarket etc.  Top floors must have some view tho 

 

We drove past there last Monday and were discussing how lovely it would be to have a balcony above the A4!

Seriously, I think developing brownfield sites is better than using green belt and that affordable housing is always going to be in less desirable positions, but a building that size anywhere near the water system is always going to be a risk. You would think that the history of Coronation Road and Cumberland Road would act as a warning sign for these developments. 

There are so many other brownfield sites that are more suitable for development, but I think that's for another thread.

[Open End Numb Legs]

21 hours ago, myol'man said:

Property prices must have taken a hit in the Fruit Market area, this developement next to Totterdown Bridge has come to a grinding halt with no progress in the last 6 months. Maybe the view of da Roverz new stadium is putting off potential buyers?

You have to say well done to the marketing team for the angle of that view, it looks idyllic. Peaceful countryside, possibly with kingfishers and otters to spot from the balcony whilst the blue waters drift by.

[CiderJar]

11 hours ago, myol'man said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-report-record-losses-8323652

 

They also post their accounts a good five months after us, almost as if, unlike us, they have something to hide.

 

Edited April 5, 2023 by CiderJar

[Port Said Red]

17 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

You have to say well done to the marketing team for the angle of that view, it looks idyllic. Peaceful countryside, possibly with kingfishers and otters to spot from the balcony whilst the blue waters drift by.

It reminds me of a story my dad used to tell about coming home by train during the war. He was at a station somewhere, was on the platform waiting and spotted a poster showing beautiful blue waters with a swimming pool close to the water, sun shining men and women scantily clad etc. He was thinking how much he would rather be there when he saw the tagline... "Come to Sunny Severn Beach" 

I don't think he ever trusted a marketing poster again.

[BS3City]

38 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

You have to say well done to the marketing team for the angle of that view, it looks idyllic. Peaceful countryside, possibly with kingfishers and otters to spot from the balcony whilst the blue waters drift by.

Take a drive over the green bridge one day. The whole area is a shithole...

[GrahamC]

“A drop in budgeted attendances” in a promotion season?

Though one that was only actually achieved after hammering Scunthorpe’s youth team. 

Something doesn’t add up here, either their support is worse than they expect & we are consistently told by their friends in the media or they are telling us they lost more money simply because they went up, or both.

Interesting footnote about the “new” stand too, “no indication” they have yet sought planning permission..

4 months to go now until the new season starts, so the clock is ticking on this fantasy structure..

[Bristol Rob]

Just now, GrahamC said:

“A drop in budgeted attendances” in a promotion season?

Though one that was only actually achieved after hammering Scunthorpe’s youth team. 

Something doesn’t add up here, either their support is worse than they expect & we are consistently told by their friends in the media or they are telling us they lost more money simply because they went up, or both.

Interesting footnote about the “new” stand too, “no indication” they have yet sought planning permission..

4 months to go now until the new season starts, so the clock is ticking on this fantasy structure..

I don't follow the rules around financials that closely, we have far more engaged minds looking at Championship FFP and all that jazz, but I'm fairly sure that Leagues One and Two operate under a 'maximum squad salary' system, where the total wage bill can't exceed a certain amount - I think it's about 2.5mil for League One (give or take a few quid).

Just had a quick look (it is 2.5mil by the way) and the Fewers have 33 players in their first team squad.

That would work out at an average of about £1500 a week - I'm sure some players get more which in turn would mean some would get less. I'd be amazed if most of them weren't trying to support the lifestyle of a professional footballer from that money. Leased car, fancy watch, couple of holidays every summer, designer clobber etc.... I wonder how many of them are on the property ladder or have plans for what they'll do when their careers end. Be amazed if any of them are sitting on a tidy pile of cash, unless like that Sinclair, they're playing out the fag-end of a career that has been largely spent in the higher divisions. 

[myol'man]

3 hours ago, BS3City said:

Take a drive over the green bridge one day. The whole area is a shithole...

Ideal location for a lower league 8k stadium then?

[Swede]

3 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

I don't follow the rules around financials that closely, we have far more engaged minds looking at Championship FFP and all that jazz, but I'm fairly sure that Leagues One and Two operate under a 'maximum squad salary' system, where the total wage bill can't exceed a certain amount - I think it's about 2.5mil for League One (give or take a few quid).

Just had a quick look (it is 2.5mil by the way) and the Fewers have 33 players in their first team squad.

That would work out at an average of about £1500 a week - I'm sure some players get more which in turn would mean some would get less. I'd be amazed if most of them weren't trying to support the lifestyle of a professional footballer from that money. Leased car, fancy watch, couple of holidays every summer, designer clobber etc.... I wonder how many of them are on the property ladder or have plans for what they'll do when their careers end. Be amazed if any of them are sitting on a tidy pile of cash, unless like that Sinclair, they're playing out the fag-end of a career that has been largely spent in the higher divisions. 

Trust me, laughing at some of the media pictures of their new signings over the last few years grimacing whilst holding up that tatty piece of cheap nylon whether it be beside a white plastic garden chair or in a field full of dog shit, I would confidently say that signing for that tin pot outfit is a clear indication their career is finished. One even refused to sign with them and preferred non league!  

[Son of Fred]

2 minutes ago, Swede said:

One even refused to sign with them and preferred non league!  

One could say "what's the difference"..

Clearly there is

[BS3City]

2 hours ago, myol'man said:

Ideal location for a lower league 8k stadium then?

Even more of a shithole should they ever locate there...

[beaverface]

17 hours ago, myol'man said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-report-record-losses-8323652

So with the amount of loan players they have, I'm assuming that they don't particularly have any players to cash in on, except maybe their striker, Aaron Collins is it?

[Bristol Rob]

2 minutes ago, beaverface said:

So with the amount of loan players they have, I'm assuming that they don't particularly have any players to cash in on, except maybe their striker, Aaron Collins is it?

Who I'm sure they'll value at a zillion billion pounds, and then accept the first £200k offer than gets tabled.

No idea how long the bloke has left on his contract, but you can be confident that he'll not sign a new deal. 

[bert tann]

7 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

We drove past there last Monday and were discussing how lovely it would be to have a balcony above the A4!

Seriously, I think developing brownfield sites is better than using green belt and that affordable housing is always going to be in less desirable positions, but a building that size anywhere near the water system is always going to be a risk. You would think that the history of Coronation Road and Cumberland Road would act as a warning sign for these developments. 

There are so many other brownfield sites that are more suitable for development, but I think that's for another thread.

 

No, the discussion of brown fields is quite appropriate on this thread.

The staff at the Mem were so moved by Mr Gorringe's explanation and excuses for Rovers huge losses that today the sanitary facilities at the Mem quickly became overloaded.  

 

 

 

[Lanterne Rouge]

1 hour ago, beaverface said:

So with the amount of loan players they have, I'm assuming that they don't particularly have any players to cash in on, except maybe their striker, Aaron Collins is it?

That`s the chap. Or as he`s better known `not-quite-a-Welsh international`

[italian dave]

18 hours ago, petehinton said:

“In budget but bonuses took them over”

So…they weren’t in budget. Plucky Rovers needing a prem player in L2 to scrape getting them promotion. 

Or….they budgeted for being shit and getting relegated.

Which you couldn’t blame them for

[Open End Numb Legs]

16 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

That`s the chap. Or as he`s better known `not-quite-a-Welsh international`

This might need a new word, how about nearly-nal ?

Sub-opti-nal?

[RedHienz]

I really do not understand how a team of loans and free transfers can have such losses. 

Zero investment in stadium. Small training ground. Short term contracts. 

At least they can sell that welsh striker for at least 10 Tilson's.

[Eddie Hitler]

On 04/04/2023 at 22:09, Barrs Court Red said:

So a loss of £3.7m in the latest accounts. Their future is bleaker than choosing the left overs at 3am jn Chasers. 

 

 

Absolutely pathetic, we have Championship crowds, Championship ticket prices, a superb new stadium with facilities such that we earn substantial income beyond just match days and we at least managed to lose £28m.

These guys simply aren't trying.

 

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01501663/filing-history

[Bristol Rob]

55 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

Absolutely pathetic, we have Championship crowds, Championship ticket prices, a superb new stadium with facilities such that we earn substantial income beyond just match days and we at least managed to lose £28m.

These guys simply aren't trying.

 

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01501663/filing-history

Imagine how much we could have lost if we'd have had PREMIER LEAGUE ready sprinklers.

That would have been a real statement of intent. 

[Eddie Hitler]

11 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Imagine how much we could have lost if we'd have had PREMIER LEAGUE ready sprinklers.

That would have been a real statement of intent. 

 

A man can dream.

Build the sprinklers and promotion will come.

[Guest]

https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/april/stadium-journey-begins/

[cidercity1987]

6 minutes ago, BS30 City said:

https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/april/stadium-journey-begins/

Just the sort of say everything and nothing statement that'll have em creaming themselves for a few more years 

[Bristol Rob]

6 minutes ago, BS30 City said:

https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/april/stadium-journey-begins/

Does this mean they are coming for us again or not?

Also, wonder how easy it is to pack up and replant a sprinkler system.

[Bris Red]

8 minutes ago, BS30 City said:

https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/april/stadium-journey-begins/

Typical them. A statement full of hot air and not actually confirming anything. I suppose it gives their deluded fanbase something to cling onto now for a year or two.

[SirColinOfMansfield]

3 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Just the sort of say everything and nothing statement that'll have em creaming themselves for a few more years 

One of them has creamed a bit prematurely ...

"Fruity confirmed, up the Rovers, unlucky Da Sh*t"

[Malago]

11 minutes ago, BS30 City said:

https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/april/stadium-journey-begins/

Had to read it twice.  It’s not the Gas that’s bought the Fruit Market site, but an investment company they hope will build them a stadium.

Typical Gas wet dream stuff.

[cheddarwedlocker]

This will make it interesting if we both play at home, TM will become a warzone

[Bristol Rob]

From a purely selfish point of view, I hope they move - either to the Fruit Market or elsewhere.

I don't live a million miles from the Mem and they all smell of wee.

[chowie]

13 minutes ago, BS30 City said:

https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/april/stadium-journey-begins/

A Company that is not BRFC buys land, so they think they are a tiny bit closer to a new stadium. In other news, man buys lottery ticket and is a tiny bit closer to winning the lottery.

Nothing to get excited about, look at Ashton Vale. I guess it's more of an advert for Wael to offload the club to potential buyers.... just like he went in when thought the Sainsbury's stadium was happening. Planning then the actual work starting is when they can start creaming themselves.

[Bristol Rob]

2 minutes ago, chowie said:

A Company that is not BRFC buys land, so they think they are a tiny bit closer to a new stadium. In other news, man buys lottery ticket and is a tiny bit closer to winning the lottery.

Nothing to get excited about, look at Ashton Vale. I guess it's more of an advert for Wael to offload the club to potential buyers.... just like he went in when thought the Sainsbury's stadium was happening. Planning then the actual work starting is when they can start creaming themselves.

I think you've missed something chowie. The creaming starts, when you lose a JPT tie away from home whilst singing 'we've got our stadium' and then about a billion years later, all you've got are some clean carpets, a telly you got from uncle Steve , 3 new tents and you've spray painted your toilet doors as a mark of respect to your favourite players.

Unlucky da shit, indeed.

[Olé]

11 minutes ago, Malago said:

Had to read it twice.  It’s not the Gas that’s bought the Fruit Market site, but an investment company they hope will build them a stadium.

Typical Gas wet dream stuff.

It's desperate even by Gas standards. Nothing has been bought by anyone.

£450k for a 1 year option to explore planning permission for a number of different possible developments with no obligation to acquire the land.

Even Gas say conditional contract. EP having a stormer by reporting investors bought land while linking to press release which says they haven't.

Quote

The Board of Conygar announces that Conygar Bristol Limited, a joint venture between Conygar and Urban and City Ltd (owned 80% by the Company and 20% by Urban and City Limited), has acquired an option for £450,000 from Wholesale Bristol Fruit Market Limited to acquire the land at St Philips Marsh where the market is currently located. The site comprises 14.7 acres and is located to the east of Bristol Temple Meads railway station.  The consideration will be funded by Conygar from existing cash resources.

The acquisition is at Conygar's discretion and is subject to the receipt of planning permission for a number of development options. The conditional contract expires on 31 March 2024 in the event that a planning application has not been made by Conygar Bristol Limited for the development of the site. 

So they want planning permission for a number of options or they're buying nothing, just first option.

[The Gasbuster]

Are this Conygar outfit going to build a stadium, and then GIVE it to the 15ers ?  

I don't think so.

Where is the MONEY coming from Wally ?

[chowie]

2 minutes ago, Olé said:

It's desperate even by Gas standards. Nothing has been bought by anyone.

£450k for a 1 year option to explore planning permission for a number of different possible developments with no obligation to acquire the land.

Even Gas say conditional contract. EP having a stormer by reporting investors bought land while linking to press release which says they haven't.

So they want planning permission for a number of options or they're buying nothing, just first option.

wow, 2.5 years just to get to that point.

[petehinton]

Theres jumping the gun and then there’s this, they could potentially make themselves look pretty stupid here. As Rob says, they’ve basically paid half a million quid to give themselves a year to explore what may be able to be done. 
 

I couldn’t imagine a worse place for a ground either. There’s absolutely nothing nearby, compared to the Mem which granted is a shithole but has so much to do nearby drinking wise etc. 

[RedHienz]

5 minutes ago, chowie said:

wow, 2.5 years just to get to that point.

Evolution.