Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[luke_bristol]

How can they just sell the Mem to fund a new stadium when the Mem is a war memorial? Family clubs don’t do that sort of thing….

[redsquirrel]

18 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Just getting rid of the portaloos would be a win for the locals you would imagine. What must they smell like in August?

not as bad as a football ground backing onto a stinking sweaty river avon bank mixed with the stench from those huge refuse dumps that are also on the back of the land

[Super]

Are they singing "we're Bristol Rovers we're getting our ground' ?

[RedLionLad]

I bet this c*** is gutted 

[Ronnie Sinclair]

9,613 there today, but they need a 50,000 stadium 

[Blagdon red]

5 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Like Leyton Orient with the flats in the corners?

Brisbane Road has a capacity of 9.2k. Much better suited to Rovers given their current gates. Model it on Brisbane road and they might be able to squeeze a tidy little 9-10k seater in amongst the flats and commercial use stuff.

For a bit of fun, I just had a look at the site on Google Maps and copied and pasted aerial shots of the Mem (also from Google Maps, same scale) onto it.

As you can see, the site is actually quite large (assuming my yellow lines correctly demaracate the boundaries), with space to spare even if you put two Mem stadiums onto it.

[Bizyer]

22 hours ago, milo1111 said:

Or the amazing buses

Or world famous trams.......oh hang on a minute

[Lanterne Rouge]

7 minutes ago, Bizyer said:

Or world famous trams.......oh hang on a minute

Surely the new underground will have a stop there won`t it?

[Open End Numb Legs]

8 minutes ago, Blagdon red said:

For a bit of fun, I just had a look at the site on Google Maps and copied and pasted aerial shots of the Mem (also from Google Maps, same scale) onto it.

As you can see, the site is actually quite large (assuming my yellow lines correctly demaracate the boundaries), with space to spare even if you put two Mem stadiums onto it.

It is a large area, however by the time you build a car park you will lose a fair bit. Then you take away space for what the developers need to build to actually make money and there isn't a lot left. If money is tight they could build with canvas, sure I have seen that done before somewhere? 

[fisherrich]

4 hours ago, petehinton said:

Try and claim the Sandringham too which is full of city attire on any day of the week you go in there. The more you think about the whole thing the funnier it is 

The Sandringham is RED through and through. If you is a gas head, not good idea.

[ExiledAjax]

24 minutes ago, Blagdon red said:

For a bit of fun, I just had a look at the site on Google Maps and copied and pasted aerial shots of the Mem (also from Google Maps, same scale) onto it.

As you can see, the site is actually quite large (assuming my yellow lines correctly demaracate the boundaries), with space to spare even if you put two Mem stadiums onto it.

How many Brisbane Roads can you fit on the site?

I presume that any new stadium would be intended to have full all seater stands, fully roofed and with integrated concourses. I also presume that takes a bigger footprint than tents and temporary bleacher seating?

[Ska Junkie]

33 minutes ago, Blagdon red said:

For a bit of fun, I just had a look at the site on Google Maps and copied and pasted aerial shots of the Mem (also from Google Maps, same scale) onto it.

As you can see, the site is actually quite large (assuming my yellow lines correctly demaracate the boundaries), with space to spare even if you put two Mem stadiums onto it.

Is that the whole development site or the bit set aside for the stadium?

[Rudolf Hucker]

5 hours ago, Lew-T said:

They’ll be claiming the Lodekka next. The Hungry Horse Punching chain pub crawl…

 

[Midred]

4 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

At least Poundland won’t be too far away for them

Are poundland making an offer for the mem site?

[old parkender]

43 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Is that the whole development site or the bit set aside for the stadium?

I’m intrigued about that! If that’s the whole site,rovers would require approx 60% of it to build a 20k stadium. 

[Port Said Red]

56 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Is that the whole development site or the bit set aside for the stadium?

 

11 minutes ago, old parkender said:

I’m intrigued about that! If that’s the whole site,rovers would require approx 60% of it to build a 20k stadium. 

It will be a squeeze for any development, with or without a stadium, by the time access roads are added. I wonder if the 1 year option Conygar have taken is to see if they can persuade some of those satellite businesses to sell up as well. e.g. those on Albert Rd at the bottom of that picture?

[Barrs Court Red]

I think the Fruit Market site is not totality of the development- which amongst other things has had things like a cinema proposed (strange, as showcase is only up the road) 

Getting planning permission to build houses on the Mem will be an absolute doddle, so I can certainly see this happening, though ownership, and whose taking what from any stadium revenue streams will probably be very interesting. 

[pride of the west]

1 hour ago, Blagdon red said:

For a bit of fun, I just had a look at the site on Google Maps and copied and pasted aerial shots of the Mem (also from Google Maps, same scale) onto it.

As you can see, the site is actually quite large (assuming my yellow lines correctly demaracate the boundaries), with space to spare even if you put two Mem stadiums onto it.

Do the same with our ground over the fruit market land. Include the car parks. Be interesting to see as they are looking at a stadium with the same footprint. 

[pongo88]

1 hour ago, Blagdon red said:

For a bit of fun, I just had a look at the site on Google Maps and copied and pasted aerial shots of the Mem (also from Google Maps, same scale) onto it.

As you can see, the site is actually quite large (assuming my yellow lines correctly demaracate the boundaries), with space to spare even if you put two Mem stadiums onto it.

Is this a projection onto the fruit market site or the Leyton Orient site? 

[Blagdon red]

1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

How many Brisbane Roads can you fit on the site?

I presume that any new stadium would be intended to have full all seater stands, fully roofed and with integrated concourses. I also presume that takes a bigger footprint than tents and temporary bleacher seating?

Two.

Brisbane Road, including flats, x2 on the fruit market site.

21 minutes ago, pride of the west said:

Do the same with our ground over the fruit market land. Include the car parks. Be interesting to see as they are looking at a stadium with the same footprint. 

Coming up shortly...

[Blagdon red]

38 minutes ago, pride of the west said:

Do the same with our ground over the fruit market land. Include the car parks. Be interesting to see as they are looking at a stadium with the same footprint. 

Here you go. AG fits nicely, with plenty of space for parking (if that's what they wanted to use the space for).

[Topper 123]

Eye eye gash has won a game again , new stadium , biggest team in Bristol ( 9000 today ) going come for city :laugh: and still Andy tilson record signing £350 thousand haha get real camel cruncher you cannot build a team on loan signings GET YOUR OWN PLAYERS  -bottom half of division 3 :laugh:

[RedLionLad]

2 hours ago, fisherrich said:

The Sandringham is RED through and through. If you is a gas head, not good idea.

Shhhh. Let em in

[pongo88]

48 minutes ago, Blagdon red said:

Here you go. AG fits nicely, with plenty of space for parking (if that's what they wanted to use the space for).

That’s approx 50% of the fruit market site. Add in parking and misc roads and there’s not much left for all the other housing, shops etc stuff that will make money for the developers. This just doesn’t add up. 

[Swede]

13 hours ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Exactly @Eddie Hitler

Really strange way of funding a new stadium.

Both City, and Luton as another good example have secured the other areas of land that can be used through development to fund a new stadium (in City's case the AV and subsequent Sports Village).

Why Wael isn't looking to do the Fruit Market proposal himself is indicative of the complete lack of funds he actually has available. 

If all of this comes to fruition, the Gas will end up with absolutely no fixed assets at all (similar to Coventry's nightmare), and will be beholden to whoever their landlord is.

At some stage that landlord will change, and they will find themselves at a huge disadvantage trying to renegotiate new terms. It's got disaster written all over it.

Why give up your ownership of your own ground? Why haven't Rovers done a planning application for the Memorial ground themselves for either ground redevelopment or housing. If the housing was granted (like Lansdown' s was for the Sports village) you could always sell the proposal to another developer or do it yourself.

Just seems like a really lazy option that they've taken, allied to in financial terms a massive premium being paid to being part of the Fruit Market development (which in essence they are piggybacking on).

Exactly this. In reality Wally is just a speculator. This is Sainsburys Round 2. He hasn't the inclination or funding to buy the land himself. If he had he could've developed what he already owns. I think one of the numerous empty announcements was "we will rebuild it stand by stand".

I can't see it getting off the ground as the transport links alone are horrendous and the council in their infinite wisdom have already made Cattle Market Road one way.

Then there is the congestion charge which I believe runs along Cattle Market Road in any case.

Then there is the added pollution created.

It is all fraught with problems leaving your main asset in the hands of a developer but basically boils down to why he bought the club in the first place which was for a quick way to sell the ageing high maintenance asset and finance the new stadium with it which in turn will make it easier for him to sell it on the open market.

 

[myol'man]

17 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

9,613 there today, but they need a 50,000 stadium 

1,159 away fans

So about 8,400 blue few,  yet they bang on about selling out every game. Is the Memorial Ground getting smaller? 

Or is Dave letting more in? 

[Red-Robbo]

3 minutes ago, myol'man said:

1,159 away fans

So about 8,400 blue few,  yet they bang on about selling out every game. Is the Memorial Ground getting smaller? 

Or is Dave letting more in? 

 

37,000 locked out, waiting for the 45K-seater Field of Plums Stadium to be built. 

[W-S-M Seagull]

Am I missing something? 

I've heard many people say they have secured land for a new stadium yet I see it as some company has paid 450k for an option to buy the site (if conditions are met) nothing more and nothing less than that.

[GrahamC]

5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Am I missing something? 

I've heard many people say they have secured land for a new stadium yet I see it as some company has paid 450k for an option to buy the site (if conditions are met) nothing more and nothing less than that.

No, you aren’t missing anything.

Just standard delusion from the blue few & their mates at Bristol Live & Radio Bristol.

They do have an asset that could help to fund some of this but we’re a million miles away from that even potentially happening.

[bcfc01]

To be fair, one of the blue few phoned into 20mans show last night specifically to say how the club and local media were misrepresenting the stadium situation. He said it was typical Rovers, shouting about a new stadium and supporters lapping it up. Him and 20man were spot on in saying nothing at all has happened re a stadium, just that the developer has a 12 month option to explore options.

It is no closer today than it was 3 or 4 years ago when all this was first mooted.

 

 

[Open End Numb Legs]

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

37,000 locked out, waiting for the 45K-seater Field of Plums Stadium to be built. 

Ah, think you have stumbled on something there. The extra land space of the fruit market will be needed to accommodate those outside the ground. 8k inside (sell out), 40k in the car park. Has anyone told the developers they won't be able to build the flats and retail?

[Port Said Red]

58 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Ah, think you have stumbled on something there. The extra land space of the fruit market will be needed to accommodate those outside the ground. 8k inside (sell out), 40k in the car park. Has anyone told the developers they won't be able to build the flats and retail?

Actually we are all missing a trick here. They have said numerous times I'm the past that "we will watch them from the pavement/road" whatever, so maybe there is no stadium and the gas are going to play on one of the roads that will be cleared of parked cars every couple of weeks.

[pommers65]

https://gaschat.co.uk/thread/20929/journey-starts?page=1...Getting ahead of themselves?

[myol'man]

1 minute ago, Port Said Red said:

Actually we are all missing a trick here. They have said numerous times I'm the past that "we will watch them from the pavement/road" whatever, so maybe there is no stadium and the gas are going to play on one of the roads that will be cleared of parked cars, scrap metal trucks, bin lorries and copious amounts of dog shit every couple of weeks.

Added a few extras for you 

[Major Isewater]

I, for one, have been walking my dog on the fruit market site  for over  twenty years ( poor blighter’s been dead for ten of them) to go and count the rare great breasted red newts who live there ( last count - nil) which just goes to show that this site needs protecting from Gas. 

[luke_bristol]

1 hour ago, pommers65 said:

https://gaschat.co.uk/thread/20929/journey-starts?page=1...Getting ahead of themselves?

The Theatre of Memes

[Open End Numb Legs]

4 hours ago, pommers65 said:

https://gaschat.co.uk/thread/20929/journey-starts?page=1...Getting ahead of themselves?

Just had a quick look, a very wide variety of opinion from 'it's happening, let's think of the new stadium name' right through to 'so many previous disappointments'.

Maybe that could be the stadium name then, the So Many Previous Disappointments Stadium.

[Lanterne Rouge]

7 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Just had a quick look, a very wide variety of opinion from 'it's happening, let's think of the new stadium name' right through to 'so many previous disappointments'.

Maybe that could be the stadium name then, the So Many Previous Disappointments Stadium.

I prefer `The It Will Never Happen Ground`

[redsquirrel]

48 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I prefer `The It Will Never Happen Ground`

you can see the headlines.  'stalemate at never never land'  thats not a goalless draw at their new stadium,its the developer not building it for them because the fence wasnt extended at the mem

[Rudolf Hucker]

53 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

you can see the headlines.  'stalemate at never never land'  thats not a goalless draw at their new stadium,its the developer not building it for them because the fence wasnt extended at the mem

“Stalemate” is the single word that kiosk operatives are ordered to respond when addressing a customer asking for a packet of crisps at the Mem. 

[redsquirrel]

44 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

“Stalemate” is the single word that kiosk operatives are ordered to respond when addressing a customer asking for a packet of crisps at the Mem. 

bloody genius response, 10/10 

[Taz]

2 hours ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Just had a quick look, a very wide variety of opinion from 'it's happening, let's think of the new stadium name' right through to 'so many previous disappointments'.

Maybe that could be the stadium name then, the So Many Previous Disappointments Stadium.

 

2 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I prefer `The It Will Never Happen Ground`

The Pie In The Sky Stadium.

Simply because it will never happen.

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

25 minutes ago, Taz said:

 

The Pie In The Sky Stadium.

Simply because it will never happen.

The masturbatoryfantasydrome.

[redsquirrel]

dopey darell will be begging to come back with all those dogs down the road 

[Porto Red]

The Theatre of Dreams surely covers it. Only, for very different reasons than the original.

[Ronnie Sinclair]

1 hour ago, Taz said:

 

The Pie In The Sky Stadium.

Simply because it will never happen.

Or “The PITS” for short 

[Swede]

To make the manager feel at home, Pentonville would be a good name.

Vile club, vile fans

[Wanderingred]

The no camp or the not yetihad.

[Gazred]

The Maracannot.

[Kid in the Riot]

11 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

To be fair, one of the blue few phoned into 20mans show last night specifically to say how the club and local media were misrepresenting the stadium situation. He said it was typical Rovers, shouting about a new stadium and supporters lapping it up. Him and 20man were spot on in saying nothing at all has happened re a stadium, just that the developer has a 12 month option to explore options.

It is no closer today than it was 3 or 4 years ago when all this was first mooted.

 

 

I heard him too, very sensible for a sag

[Son of Fred]

6 hours ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Just had a quick look, a very wide variety of opinion from 'it's happening, let's think of the new stadium name' right through to 'so many previous disappointments'.

Maybe that could be the stadium name then, the So Many Previous Disappointments Stadium.

The Shitehawk Pissporial - I know I've downed a bottle of Malbec,but I can't stop laughing

[W-S-M Seagull]

I quite like the name neverbeenbuilt stadium. 

[Bas's perfect hattrick]

6 hours ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Just had a quick look, a very wide variety of opinion from 'it's happening, let's think of the new stadium name' right through to 'so many previous disappointments'.

Maybe that could be the stadium name then, the So Many Previous Disappointments Stadium.

The stadium of shite

[nebristolred]

Surely if they are relying on the developer (who will want as large a margin as possible) to build a ground for them in exchange for land, they will be looking at a full on barebones stadium in the guise of the Kassam or New Meadow rather than anything better? Possibly something like Rotherham's at an absolute push?

[redsquirrel]

after they do all their usual years of messing everyone around, their new stadium will resemble ......................... the fruit market

[Lanterne Rouge]

The `Whywontsomeonegiveusa Stadium`

[The Gasbuster]

The stillnotyetihad

[Rudolf Hucker]

Le Stade de Pants

[Chessels Chick]

Stadium In Your Dreams

[Lanterne Rouge]

They`re all over there arguing about the best way to get there from North Bristol bless them!

[Open End Numb Legs]

8 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

They`re all over there arguing about the best way to get there from North Bristol bless them!

If only they could have a ground in north Bristol....ah...

[Lanterne Rouge]

2 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

If only they could have a ground in north Bristol....ah...

What? In their `heartlands` (wherever that is nowadays)?

[Port Said Red]

"World's Top" mind.......

 

[Bristol Rob]

11 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

They`re all over there arguing about the best way to get there from North Bristol bless them!

It's hilarious. People saying the stadium isn't on a good location because there aren't many busses.

I wonder - before it was built - how many busses went to The Mall at Cribbs.

Well, given it didn't exist, you would have to say the answer is none.

Some of them are thick as mince, they really are. The fact a new service could be introduced is just beyond the tiny minds of a few. At least they have the odd sensible voice over there, but no doubt they'll probably get told to 'Get back to Trashton' by the end of the day, such are their insecurities.

[Bristol Rob]

1 minute ago, Port Said Red said:

"World's Top" mind.......

 

Not sure why a sports agent would be needed to pitch for an infrastructure project. Unless of course, a laptop repair man was invovled.

[Lanterne Rouge]

3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Not sure why a sports agent would be needed to pitch for an infrastructure project. Unless of course, a laptop repair man was invovled.

No, he will be the IT consultant for the entire project. He`s got a shed in his back garden he`s not using that will become his corporate HQ.

[Open End Numb Legs]

32 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

"World's Top" mind.......

 

Prospective investors? Hang on, why are they needed? Are they saying that Wally hasn't got the money now? How can that be for the 6th richest club?

[Sweeneys Penalties]

The Fruitcake stadium or The Big Top does it for me

[Port Said Red]

31 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Not sure why a sports agent would be needed to pitch for an infrastructure project. Unless of course, a laptop repair man was invovled.

Strange isn't it, especially when the poster is questioned on it later he can't name the Agency, but apparently knows they are a "World's Top" one. 

 

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Prospective investors? Hang on, why are they needed? Are they saying that Wally hasn't got the money now? How can that be for the 6th richest club?

Well that's standard to be fair, SL is looking for additional investors for the Sporting Quarter, it's just a way of spreading the liabilities.