Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[Open End Numb Legs]

1 hour ago, BCFC11 said:

However, get a new stadium, carry on the quarters developments and get us into the championship then I would say he’s looking at a profit and we would be worth around £125m as we would be oven ready for a promotion push to the promised land. 
 

Holy mackeral, it is worse than I thought, there is no hope for them.

Pure fiction. 'Once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away.... '

[ExiledAjax]

10 hours ago, BCFC11 said:

how much is the club worth then ? I’d argue a lot more than £105m .

 

9 hours ago, BCFC11 said:

we would be worth around £125m

Good lord they honestly cannot even conceive what the top two divisions are like.

Sheffield Utd are currently being hawked for around £90m. Premier League Bournemouth were valued at about £120m in 2022.

If, when Lansdown sells, we are valued at anything over £100m that would be an incredible outcome. And our sale would include AG, a squad worth circa £30m, and a fanbase 3 to 4 times their size.

[JBFC II]

I see their striker was voted League One Player of the Year last night, a 300k release clause anybody?

[MrBibs]

33 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

 

Good lord they honestly cannot even conceive what the top two divisions are like.

Sheffield Utd are currently being hawked for around £90m. Premier League Bournemouth were valued at about £120m in 2022.

If, when Lansdown sells, we are valued at anything over £100m that would be an incredible outcome. And our sale would include AG, a squad worth circa £30m, and a fanbase 3 to 4 times their size.

TrussGas, KwartengGas and DianneAbbotGas have verified that valuation of £125m.

I’m not an accountant but there’s a thing called goodwill that hasn’t been factored in. Their fans have asked other fans and it turns out they’re everyone else’s second favourite team and you can’t put a price on that.

[glynriley]

oh poor deluded little saggie…

[Bristol Rob]

7 minutes ago, glynriley said:

oh poor deluded little saggie…

They are collectively feeding off the delusions of others. It's the footballing equivalent of Trumpism.

If they get a new stadium, they will likely be an attractive proposition for promoters, so they will likely be a venue that gets concerts, size of the venue won't matter greatly as a promoter will rent the stadium or space and fill it with an appropriately sized band.

Their fan zone... they seem to have convinced themselves that every pound spent is money in the kitty, which might be true of bar spend, but most of the vendors will have paid a fixed fee for the chance to pitch up on a match day to hawk their crisps and Fanta, the people making or losing the money will be those who have booked a space.

As for the £100mil plus price tag, no chance.

'Wanna buy my football club?' 

'How much does it make every year?'

'Err, it loses millions'

'But you own the stadium, yes?'

'Not quite'.

And at that point, any price is purely subjective, what sort of mentalist is going to pay £100mil knowing that they are going to need to prop the club up to the tune of many more millions.

Get to the Prem, survive for a couple seasons and it could be a game changer price wise, but aside from that, clubs are worth nothing. They are simply a play thing for the successful.

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

7 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

They are collectively feeding off the delusions of others. It's the footballing equivalent of Trumpism.

If they get a new stadium, they will likely be an attractive proposition for promoters, so they will likely be a venue that gets concerts, size of the venue won't matter greatly as a promoter will rent the stadium or space and fill it with an appropriately sized band.

Their fan zone... they seem to have convinced themselves that every pound spent is money in the kitty, which might be true of bar spend, but most of the vendors will have paid a fixed fee for the chance to pitch up on a match day to hawk their crisps and Fanta, the people making or losing the money will be those who have booked a space.

As for the £100mil plus price tag, no chance.

'Wanna buy my football club?' 

'How much does it make every year?'

'Err, it loses millions'

'But you own the stadium, yes?'

'Not quite'.

And at that point, any price is purely subjective, what sort of mentalist is going to pay £100mil knowing that they are going to need to prop the club up to the tune of many more millions.

Get to the Prem, survive for a couple seasons and it could be a game changer price wise, but aside from that, clubs are worth nothing. They are simply a play thing for the successful.

The Barron Knights?

[The Gasbuster]

1 hour ago, MrBibs said:

TrussGas, KwartengGas and DianneAbbotGas have verified that valuation of £125m.

I’m not an accountant but there’s a thing called goodwill that hasn’t been factored in. Their fans have asked other fans and it turns out they’re everyone else’s second favourite team and you can’t put a price on that.

Hahahaha !! 

Just spat my cornflakes out !

Edited April 24, 2023 by The Gasbuster

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

15 hours ago, The Gasbuster said:

Their “new” ground (IF it ever happens), will be “The Dirt Box”.

 

The stands could be "The Left Cheek" and "The Right Cheek".

[The Gasbuster]

1 minute ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

The stands could be "The Left Cheek" and "The Right Cheek".

The north and south stands could be "The Colon Stand" & "The Anus Stand"

[Open End Numb Legs]

So if they got to lease their 40,000 seat stadium, what happens with the 31,500 empty seats on match day? There will be a terrible echo....echo....echo....

[Miah Dennehy]

12 hours ago, Slacker said:

How about a big welcome to a new member of our family.Welcome Mr Dennehy.We knew all along!

I'll play if asked

[slartibartfast]

2 hours ago, JBFC II said:

I see their striker was voted League One Player of the Year last night, a 300k release clause anybody?

Who ?

[Topper 123]

1 hour ago, slartibartfast said:

Who ?

So Bristol could have 2 clubs SOUTH of the river , one that owns its ground and one that rents a ground 

 

Just now, Magger1 said:

So Bristol could have 2 clubs SOUTH of the river , one that owns its ground and one that rents a ground 

 

ARENA ISLAND :laugh:

[RedLionLad]

2 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

The Barron Knights?

Garbage?

[Port Said Red]

When this all this falls through and they are stuck on the Muller Road, will they get the same sponsors as Bolton Wanderers? 

 

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, TomF said:

Wait, so the fewers are not taking 30'000 and using up the whole away end capacity?  Must be a mistake

https://www.theposh.com/news/deskgo-stand-open-posh-supporters

Ah yeah, but, season over, nothing game, crap opposition..... no one would sell out the away end in similar circumstances would they?

https://tickets.bristol-sport.co.uk/categories/bristolcityfcaway

[Swede]

5 hours ago, glynriley said:

oh poor deluded little saggie…

Where do they get these needy morons from? "yes, yes, but it has to be biggerer than trashton . . ." to house the 30,000 sags they'll need pontoons for the fruit market, always assuming they have enough car parks to satisfy the planners!  

[Gert Mare]

On 21/04/2023 at 22:55, BCFC11 said:

Anyone else shitting themselves?

 

82ers sh**e forum trying to put a different spin on it, they're turning it all in to negatives, think the Barcelona of Bristol getting a tad twitchy that little old Rovers have exciting things happening

Aww bless. They actually believe that we are twitchy about them 'having discussions' with a developer where they are hoping to eventually come to an agreement where they'll get a free stadium?

I listened to Wally on Wednesday and as soon as Geoff Twozeroman mentioned the new stadium Wally's level of 'er, um' went off the scale. It was blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain (as Gasheads are generally at Neanderthal level this is a problem) that he was trying his hardest to sound positive but in reality he could not provide anything concrete as the only thing that is concrete are 'discussions'. 

Nothing has been agreed and nothing will be agreed. Wally alludes to this by describing the task of finding the Sags a new and free place to squat as an 'impossible task'.

Let's face it, it is an impossible task to get a free squat. Even if the developer agreed (which they won't because they will want to get the best ROI for their investors) then Rovers will have to get agreement for a stadium to be built with sufficient access routes in an area which is looking at clear air zones and has environmental sustainability targets to satisfy. Then you have to factor in the nearby residential areas who will have to put up with increased noise level pollution on matchdays, hearing songs about an old granny and every other song about Bristol City. This would no doubt be met with public objection and could lead to ongoing red tape and legal costs.

Wally had to say something and so what he has basically said is that the people that Rovers have been talking to have paid a sum of money to take a look at the land. As the developer has made a positive step he has been able to piggy back with a positive statement for Rovers, but absolutely nothing has changed for Rovers. They were 'talking' before and they are 'still talking'. 

Their intent to swap a tent out with a tin roof at The Mem is a bigger indication (to me) of what is actually happening. When the pie in the sky ground falls though (and it will), they'll be able to say it's ok as at least you've now got a lovely tin roof on the South Stand at the Mem.

Gasheads are being led up the garden path. Their future is bleak...very bleak and Wally doesn't want the Neanderthals to turn during his tenure.

He's simply buying himself more time to stay liked because as we all know....."These things take time" and unfortunately it seems to be taking a considerable amount of time for the penny to drop with some Sags.

Fortunately, us Ted's see it without the tinted specs and delusion.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Gert Mare

[TheReds]

8 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

 

Good lord they honestly cannot even conceive what the top two divisions are like.

Sheffield Utd are currently being hawked for around £90m. Premier League Bournemouth were valued at about £120m in 2022.

If, when Lansdown sells, we are valued at anything over £100m that would be an incredible outcome. And our sale would include AG, a squad worth circa £30m, and a fanbase 3 to 4 times their size.

You need to get away from those things called facts. They don't work weel with those 40000+ Gasheads that turned up at Wembley...

[Gert Mare]

31 minutes ago, TheReds said:

You need to get away from those things called facts. They don't work weel with those 40000+ Gasheads that turned up at Wembley...

Or that their club historian tacked an extra 10 years on to how old their club actually is!

Still, exaggerating figures......'It's what they do!'

[RedLionLad]

2 hours ago, Gert Mare said:

Or that their club historian tacked an extra 10 years on to how old their club actually is!

Still, exaggerating figures......'It's what they do!'

To be honest, when you see the state of their fans, their manager, their owner, their kit, their league position, their stadium, their PR, their toilets, their disabled facilities, their rat traps, their food and drink etc. etc it’s quite an easy mistake to make.

[Open End Numb Legs]

Do you think they will appeal for retired volunteers to build a whole new stadium for free? You know, just to keep their hand in.....can't be that difficult.

[Gillies Downs Leeds]

Taking 480 to Plymouth tomorrow mind. 

[NcnsBcfc]

5 hours ago, Swede said:

Where do they get these needy morons from? "yes, yes, but it has to be biggerer than trashton . . ." to house the 30,000 sags they'll need pontoons for the fruit market, always assuming they have enough car parks to satisfy the planners!  

I take it Sing up gas hasn't been to MK Dons if he's using that stadium as an example.

As a club they've never filled it. In the end they closed the upper tier to fans, and started even stripping seats from the bottom tier as well.

An absolute cluster of a ground, and hardly one to use as an example of a ground to aspire to.

Edited April 24, 2023 by NcnsBcfc

[bcfc01]

8 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

Taking 480 to Plymouth tomorrow mind. 

Its what they do.

It really is.

[Taz]

13 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

Taking 480 to Plymouth tomorrow mind. 

At least get it right. 

It's 480 loyal and true gasheads...

[1960maaan]

7 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

As a club they've never filled it.

Sounds similar to a local club we all know and Love  , well know.

On another note. How long before the Women's team get a higher attendance than the squatters ? And does that mean they need a bigger stadium too ???

[slartibartfast]

45 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Do you think they will appeal for retired volunteers to build a whole new stadium for free? You know, just to keep their hand in.....can't be that difficult.

You mean, like retired gynecologists do a bit of part time work........just to keep their hand in ?

[Loosey Boy]

480 to Plymouth

We took more to Pre-Season game there….

Edited April 24, 2023 by Loosey Boy

[RedLionLad]

31 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

Sounds similar to a local club we all know and Love  , well know.

On another note. How long before the Women's team get a higher attendance than the squatters ? And does that mean they need a bigger stadium too ???

I would say attendances at quite a few WSL games next season at Ashton Gate will trounce their figure.

That’ll be the perfect time for them to Mind The Gap

[ExiledAjax]

1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

Sounds similar to a local club we all know and Love  , well know.

On another note. How long before the Women's team get a higher attendance than the squatters ? And does that mean they need a bigger stadium too ???

Not very long if they do ok up in the top division.

Remember the Gas announce total attendance, including away fans. There's between 500-1000 away fans at any single League One game at the Mem. So when they say 9,000 attended that's realistically 8,500 Gas tops.

In women's football away travel isn't as much of a thing as it is in men's. I'm sure it's growing, but right now away visitor numbers are tiny. So an announcement of any attendance is almost entirely pure home support.

So 7,000 is probably only about 1,000-1,500 shy of the home attendance the Gas are getting.

I suspect that in the WSL the home games against the big teams could well bring in crowds of high 4 figures. 

Edited April 24, 2023 by ExiledAjax

[lenred]

1 hour ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

Taking 480 to Plymouth tomorrow mind. 

That is genuinely pitiful 

[bristolmoose]

However, get a new stadium, carry on the quarters developments and get us into the championship then I would say he’s looking at a profit and we would be worth around £125m as we would be oven ready for a promotion push to the promised land. 

Oven ready? Like a turkey?

[HoldenBall]

480 for a derby.. that’s possibly some of the worst away support I think I have ever seen. Rovers away support only travel to grounds they haven’t been too for 20 years.. potful 

[Lanterne Rouge]

31 minutes ago, bristolmoose said:

However, get a new stadium, carry on the quarters developments and get us into the championship then I would say he’s looking at a profit and we would be worth around £125m as we would be oven ready for a promotion push to the promised land. 

Oven ready? Like a turkey?

Can you imagine that shower even surviving in the Championship let alone the Premier League? They can barely manage mid table in League one FFS.

[Rudolf Hucker]

27 minutes ago, bristolmoose said:

However, get a new stadium, carry on the quarters developments and get us into the championship then I would say he’s looking at a profit and we would be worth around £125m as we would be oven ready for a promotion push to the promised land. 

Oven ready? Like a turkey?

The term ‘oven ready’ is discredited having been formerly used by a compulsive, abject liar making false promises, causing deluded people to believe him. Appropriate it’s now being re-used by 15ers. 

[Ronnie Sinclair]

13 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

The term ‘oven ready’ is discredited having been formerly used by a compulsive, abject liar making false promises, causing deluded people to believe him. Appropriate it’s now being re-used by 15ers. 

Their oven is definitely ready I've checked.... 

[cider hoss rules]

1 hour ago, HoldenBall said:

480 for a derby.. that’s possibly some of the worst away support I think I have ever seen. Rovers away support only travel to grounds they haven’t been too for 20 years.. potful 

Even though this is described as a ‘Derby’ at 125 miles away it hardly qualifies.

Curiosity got to me, and Vale Park is 127 miles away, that would never be considered as a local match up.

 

Not getting away from 480 being poor given their constant claims of mass travelling fans.

[WessexPest]

33 minutes ago, cider hoss rules said:

Even though this is described as a ‘Derby’ at 125 miles away it hardly qualifies.

Curiosity got to me, and Vale Park is 127 miles away, that would never be considered as a local match up.

 

Not getting away from 480 being poor given their constant claims of mass travelling fans.

That figure almost defies belief.

It is a derby - In the same geographic region, ie what the rest of the country considers populated by “Oo-arrr” cider-swilling buck toothed inbreeds who have unnaturally close relationship with their livestock and crunch carrots (I resemble that remark, although never cared for raw carrots…), and more importantly there is a fair bit of rivalry between the clubs.

It’s the rivalry, plus the fact they could actually throw a serious spanner in the PAFC promotion works (unlikely, but there are always ridiculous results at this stage of the season) that makes that number of tickets sold almost defy belief. Be interested to see how many actually do end up going. Anything under 1000 and they deserve shedloads of abuse considering how they’re always pouncing on games up north where we have small travelling contingents.

Nothing comparable with Port Vale aside from the fact Snakey now plays for them. Plus given the regional slant it (Home Park) somehow “feels” a lot closer anyway.

Edited April 24, 2023 by WessexPest

[slartibartfast]

4 hours ago, bristolmoose said:

 we would be oven ready for a promotion push to the promised land. 

Oven ready? Like a turkey?

Wasn't Brexit "oven ready "?

[JBFC II]

Just for the interest of balance, the last time we travelled to Plymouth in the league was also a Tuesday night 13 years ago. We took 800 for what was our 3rd away game in 7 days (as well as Palace and Reading). Incomparable really

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

11 hours ago, HoldenBall said:

Rovers away support only travel to grounds they haven’t been too for 20 years..

Yep.

Then they try to make out that it’s the norm for them to take 3k everywhere despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. 

Didn’t we take about 600-700 down there for a pre season kickabout? I remember we sold the 650 tickets they gave us plus pay in the day? 

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan

[Super]

Why have i got a feeling they'll fluke a result tonight?!

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

24 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

Just for the interest of balance, the last time we travelled to Plymouth in the league was also a Tuesday night 13 years ago. We took 800 for what was our 3rd away game in 7 days (as well as Palace and Reading). Incomparable really

Yes, very true.

3rd of 3 away games in a week and we had taken 2000 to Reading 3 days before.

[GreedyHarry]

1 hour ago, JBFC II said:

Just for the interest of balance, the last time we travelled to Plymouth in the league was also a Tuesday night 13 years ago. We took 800 for what was our 3rd away game in 7 days (as well as Palace and Reading). Incomparable really

Ah but what you don’t know is that one of them has confirmed on their match day thread that the away following tonight will be exactly half that of a Saturday. No evidence for any of that of course but I believe them. (For balance ours would have been exactly 7 / 16ths so they are definitely better than us…..they said so).

[Red Army 75]

Come you Janners . Smash the fewers 

[Barry Sheene]

Going against the grain here but i dislike Plymouth with as much passion as i dislike Rovers and would love to see them blow it so for once i will take a fewers win.

[Swede]

I'm looking at the bigger picture, anything to stop that smarmy reptile, swiss tony from finishing in the automatic places will do for me. So its Argyle & the Owls [& not necessarily in that order] for me. 

[Gert Mare]

16 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Their oven is definitely ready I've checked.... 

Don't be fooled.

This is in fact their trophy cabinet (Watney Cup - top left and Worthington Cup Preliminary Round Runners Up bottom middle)

#Tinpot

 

[phantom]

43 minutes ago, Barry Sheene said:

Going against the grain here but i dislike Plymouth with as much passion as i dislike Rovers and would love to see them blow it so for once i will take a fewers win.

I know what you mean, but it's a different dislike for each team

But yeah would love to see Plymouth "POP"

[Super]

46 minutes ago, Barry Sheene said:

Going against the grain here but i dislike Plymouth with as much passion as i dislike Rovers and would love to see them blow it so for once i will take a fewers win.

You want Ipswich to go up?

[Barry Sheene]

36 minutes ago, Super said:

You want Ipswich to go up?

Much perfer Sheffield Wednesday but that would be the politicians way of not answering your question!. Got to admit i would rather be playing Ispwich than Plymouth next year. Sorry.

[Super]

Just now, Barry Sheene said:

Much perfer Sheffield Wednesday but that would be the politicians way of not answering your question!. Got to admit i would rather be playing Ispwich than Plymouth next year. Sorry.

TBH i actually used to quite like Ipswich now i hate them!

[Selred]

Why do people dislike Plymouth so much?

[phantom]

23 minutes ago, Selred said:

Why do people dislike Plymouth so much?

Always have from the late 1980's, and then just added to that when they were running us close a few years back

[Tinmans Love Child]

22 minutes ago, Selred said:

Why do people dislike Plymouth so much?

I expect the responses will be any of the following

1) Horrible fans

2) Horrible club

3) Horrible place

Personally I'm a lover not a fighter, I don't understand hating a club from miles away, it makes no sense to me

[RedLionLad]

35 minutes ago, Selred said:

Why do people dislike Plymouth so much?

"They are not very nice people on the Plymouth forum are they, quite nasty infact, glad we don't have to play them again next year, be glad when they're relegated again next season and we take their place"

 

Wimp !!!!

[slartibartfast]

17 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

I expect the responses will be any of the following

1) Horrible fans

2) Horrible club

3) Horrible place

Personally I'm a lover not a fighter, I don't understand hating a club from miles away, it makes no sense to me

Agree, they mean absolutely nothing to me ,one way or the other..............just as long as they deprive Dipstick of an auto place, they're fine !

[1960maaan]

42 minutes ago, Selred said:

Why do people dislike Plymouth so much?

Personally I don't. R*vers, Swindon, Cardiff actually there are quite a few so I'll stop now. But Plymouth are in the group (now at least) that I don't care about.

19 minutes ago, phantom said:

Always have from the late 1980's, and then just added to that when they were running us close a few years back

From memory when they were "better" than us for a while. 83/84 they got to the FA Cup Semi while in L3, our promotion year from L4. It was nearly always close after that, until more recently obviously.

[Numero Uno]

18 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Can you imagine that shower even surviving in the Championship let alone the Premier League? They can barely manage mid table in League one FFS.

They dont have a clue how much it costs to even be competitive in the Championship let alone oven ready to get out of it in an upwards direction. Clubs like Rotherham who they consider themselves a gazillion times bigger than will be paying far more than they do.

[1960maaan]

Looks like old Roy likes the wind up.

[Open End Numb Legs]

'......tempted to cross the river....'

You would think he would swim across through crocodiles and piranhas if necessary.

 

As suggested though, probably just a bit of mischief.

[Miah Dennehy]

On 24/04/2023 at 11:21, Magger1 said:

So Bristol could have 2 clubs SOUTH of the river , one that owns its ground and one that rents a ground 

 

ARENA ISLAND

The fruit market is north of the river-just.

[RedLionLad]

14 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

The fruit market is north of the river-just.

It's in one of the dirtiest, smelliest, rat-infested parts of Bristol.

The perfect location for your lot. I would say;

[RedRock]

1 hour ago, Selred said:

Why do people dislike Plymouth so much?

I don’t…and suspect many who live down this way would agree.  

Utmost respect for the travelling fans who go in big numbers and great distances. Know several supporters and they’re decent folk. Indeed, my old boss - who was the best ever (rip) - was a rabid ‘Muff fan and even got a prominent new build industrial unit clad in Plymouth colours as he proudly told me.

While they do tend to bully Exeter a bit , they seem ok with Torquay and, generally, seem to have a greater dislike of Sags than us. We don’t though go out of our way to nurture the relationship … the Cherry Tree PH and all that! 

Come on ‘Muff! 

[Open End Numb Legs]

20 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Their oven is definitely ready I've checked.... 

So when they said 'one of the big 6' they meant these 6 big pots? Now it makes sense.

[NOTBLUE]

Just now, Open End Numb Legs said:

So when they said 'one of the big 6' they meant these 6 big pots? Now it makes sense.

They would call them cups ,not pots.

[NOTBLUE]

3 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said:

They would call them cups ,not pots.

Sorry Gert  Mare ,didn’t see your post

[Topper 123]

2 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

The fruit market is north of the river-just.

Not according to Wikipedia?