Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[GrahamC]

12 hours ago, glynriley said:

How does the fake sheikh square this comment from a couple of years ago , having now signed a player who has plead guilty to assault…? Joseph has obviously converted him to the dark side. These things take time.

In an open letter on Rovers website, president Wael al-Qadi said the club had "in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse" and "we stand firmly against any form of violence". 

He said any club employees who are convicted of such offences "will be dismissed immediately" and said he understood concerns that had been raised by supporters.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-57990366

 

Obvious question (that the media won’t ask) how does he square this with the fact he’s already admitted one assault?

What was that? A (literal) free hit?

[Eddie Hitler]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

Obvious question (that the media won’t ask) how does he square this with the fact he’s already admitted one assault?

What was that? A (literal) free hit?

 

Just look at Barton, multiple assaults, jail time.

However the live cases since he has been employed by Rovers have both ended in acquital.

It is, I agree, a very odd balancing attack that Wael is undertaking here in order to retain his jailbird manager and sign players which other clubs wouldn't touch.

I noted Lee Power era Swindon as plumbing the depths with their player signings, made cheaply and on low wages because no other club wanted them, and Rovers are now emulating that model - low morals mean low prices.

It does genuinely surprise me that they are doing this.

The "nice guy" owner is clearly not a nice guy and I would also suggest that he remove his very nice watch before shaking hands with either his staff or players.

[Major Isewater]

On 25/06/2023 at 20:11, 42nite said:

Ummmm, she's your mum!

 

 

And your sister.

 

 

Has this one been done yet? 

[petehinton]

29 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

Just look at Barton, multiple assaults, jail time.

However the live cases since he has been employed by Rovers have both ended in acquital.

It is, I agree, a very odd balancing attack that Wael is undertaking here in order to retain his jailbird manager and sign players which other clubs wouldn't touch.

I noted Lee Power era Swindon as plumbing the depths with their player signings, made cheaply and on low wages because no other club wanted them, and Rovers are now emulating that model - low morals mean low prices.

It does genuinely surprise me that they are doing this.

The "nice guy" owner is clearly not a nice guy and I would also suggest that he remove his very nice watch before shaking hands with either his staff or players.

Their CEO Gorringe appeared on Neil Maggs’ podcast last January and also appears to just muddle his way through any tough questioning that goes against what they’ve said previously. 
 

 Neil asked him how does Barton fit into the ‘authentic family club feel’ they parade with what he’s done In the past, and landed on “well he’s been wonderful to work with since I’ve been here”

It seems like they’re really going for broke. Brown, horrific signing for the off field stuff and image, but also I’m sure the big reason he’s gone there is they’ve thrown cash at him. Same with James Wilson, except he wanted to be local too. 
 

As @Kid in the Riot said last season, they boast about being plucky Rovers but they no doubt have a top 8/9 budget and appear to be wanting to raise that higher. Probably because Barton has bleated on so much about promotion they’ve probably realised they need to try and back it up, but in no way have the set up to do so outside of paying over the odds wherever they can. 

Edited June 27, 2023 by petehinton

[bcfc01]

31 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

Just look at Barton, multiple assaults, jail time.

However the live cases since he has been employed by Rovers have both ended in acquital.

It is, I agree, a very odd balancing attack that Wael is undertaking here in order to retain his jailbird manager and sign players which other clubs wouldn't touch.

I noted Lee Power era Swindon as plumbing the depths with their player signings, made cheaply and on low wages because no other club wanted them, and Rovers are now emulating that model - low morals mean low prices.

It does genuinely surprise me that they are doing this.

The "nice guy" owner is clearly not a nice guy and I would also suggest that he remove his very nice watch before shaking hands with either his staff or players.

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

Barton, and some of the people he's brought in, ensures low morals.

 

[Numero Uno]

Max Power is the latest Scouser they are linked with..........

[Bristol Rob]

2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Max Power is the latest Scouser they are linked with..........

 

[TheReds]

20 hours ago, !james said:

 

 

 

What I don't understand about this is he's already admitted and been charged for one assault against a woman already?

So where do they stand on that? 

[Major Isewater]

1 minute ago, TheReds said:

So where do they stand on that? 

Well out of reach. 

[old parkender]

10 minutes ago, TheReds said:

What I don't understand about this is he's already admitted and been charged for one assault against a woman already?

So where do they stand on that? 

As I understand, the other assault was at the same time as the one he pleaded guilty to, he’s pleading not guilty to the second so it’s an ongoing case. 

[TheReds]

8 minutes ago, old parkender said:

As I understand, the other assault was at the same time as the one he pleaded guilty to, he’s pleading not guilty to the second so it’s an ongoing case. 

So they are still happy to work with them for one already guilty charge, but if it's two guilty verdicts it may be too much?

Makes no sense from their point of view. I hope they aren't getting paid by Rovers as it looks a bit of a conflict of interest/brown envelope situation.

[old parkender]

18 minutes ago, TheReds said:

So they are still happy to work with them for one already guilty charge, but if it's two guilty verdicts it may be too much?

Makes no sense from their point of view. I hope they aren't getting paid by Rovers as it looks a bit of a conflict of interest/brown envelope situation.

No, been advised not to comment by legal advisor, pretty sure their statement says about reviewing relationship with rovers once case has concluded. Rovers have effectively binned everything off with them to please Barton so I’d be very surprised if they were overjoyed at this signing. 

[Red-Robbo]

18 hours ago, Son of Nob said:

Anyone? No?

Genuinely (not joking) think this guy has severe issue that need addressing.

 

[Former Pirate]

1 hour ago, Percy Pig said:

Some of their leadership have provided more context on twitter. The outcome of the not guilty plea case will influence the sentencing for the guilty plea, so whilst he's admitted a charge any comment from outside from a fairly high profile female charity/group could jeapoadise the case.

So it makes perfect sense to not say anything until he's been sentenced. Better to rile up the usual bigots who call them "bints" and question their motives at every juncture by keeping quiet for a bit than potentially allow a women beating thug wriggle out of a prison sentence on a technicality.

But you know, let's pour scorn on some volunteers trying to do something positive rather than say, the bastard who hit a woman...

Can we do both? I mean pour scorn on some vacuous, arrogant grifters who are doing this for their own ends and the corporate freebies AS WELL as the bastard who hit a woman?

Asking for a friend. 

[richwwtk]

21 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said:

Can we do both? I mean pour scorn on some vacuous, arrogant grifters who are doing this for their own ends and the corporate freebies AS WELL as the bastard who hit a woman?

Asking for a friend. 

Are you calling Her Game Too "vacuous, arrogant grifters in it for their own ends and corporate freebies" or have I misread the thread somehere along the way?

Edited June 27, 2023 by richwwtk

[phantom]

15 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

Are you calling Her Game Too "vacuous, arrogant grifters in it for their own ends and corporate freebies" or have I misread the thread somehere along the way?

That's how I read it . .. . 

I will await clarification before commenting further

[myol'man]

Is Ched Evans available on a free transfer?

Asking for a Scouse friend 

[Former Pirate]

23 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

Are you calling Her Game Too "vacuous, arrogant grifters in it for their own ends and corporate freebies" or have I misread the thread somehere along the way?

I’m calling one (or more maybe) particularly notable people within the cause that, yes. 

[Former Pirate]

33 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

You can do whatever you want, FP. 

I think to speak to someone's motivations from the outside is pretty daft. I don't think any amount of corporate freebies are worth some of the deranged abuse I've seen people like our Leah Case (think she's married now) get. 

As with most things I'm happy to trust that those willing to put their heads above the parapet and say something that won't please the vocal minority Andrew Tate worshiping virgins are doing so bravely and in good faith. Same reason I respect the JSO protestors for doing something however annoying it might be.

Baseless questioning of people's motivations seems to play into the hands of the worst of the worst. A veiled attack on women participation in football. I'm not saying that's you, but it's certainly helping the bigots more than the women! 

Agreed. To clarify a bit I guess that was a generalisation. The cause itself I’m right behind however the people behind it, a few of them at least, have proved to be entirely hypocritical and therefor the message is somewhat lost. You’re absolutely right to say any attack on women in football is abhorrent, I wholeheartedly agree, but dig a little into the people behind that particular cause and a couple of them are not entirely wholesome. 

[old parkender]

43 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said:

Can we do both? I mean pour scorn on some vacuous, arrogant grifters who are doing this for their own ends and the corporate freebies AS WELL as the bastard who hit a woman?

Asking for a friend. 

Please enlighten me on how putting countless hours into a campaign in your own time for free whilst paying for your own tickets to matches whilst receiving untold vile abuse from Neanderthals makes someone an arrogant vacuous grifter? I had you down as one of the more reasonable posters on here but it turns out you’re just another misogynistic idiot. 
clearly you have a pretty big axe to grind here

[Former Pirate]

1 minute ago, old parkender said:

Please enlighten me on how putting countless hours into a campaign in your own time for free whilst paying for your own tickets to matches whilst receiving untold vile abuse from Neanderthals makes someone an arrogant vacuous grifter? I had you down as one of the more reasonable posters on here but it turns out you’re just another misogynistic idiot. 
clearly you have a pretty big axe to grind here

Thanks for the personal attack but I’ll leave it at this - elements of your post are not factually correct. No interest in an argument but there definitely are people in the cause out for their own gain and nothing else. 
 

That’s before we get to racist, homophobic Amy the Swansea fan. 
 

But sure, you can’t criticise anyone if they’re doing ‘good work’ can you. 

[phantom]

15 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said:

I’m calling one (or more maybe) particularly notable people within the cause that, yes. 

I think I can guess who you "may" mean? There have been times when I have wondered if she remembered what she was actually supposed to be doing

The project itself has done lots of good for women around the game, and am pleased to say those around City have done lots at the club

 

[Former Pirate]

2 minutes ago, phantom said:

I think I can guess who you "may" mean? There have been times when I have wondered if she remembered what she was actually supposed to be doing

The project itself has done lots of good for women around the game, and am pleased to say those around City have done lots at the club

 

I don’t disagree with your post at all fella, I completely agree that the cause is fantastic and has done an awful lot of good at some clubs. The first part I also agree with however and forms part of my issue with them as a cause. 

[old parkender]

9 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said:

Thanks for the personal attack but I’ll leave it at this - elements of your post are not factually correct. No interest in an argument but there definitely are people in the cause out for their own gain and nothing else. 
 

That’s before we get to racist, homophobic Amy the Swansea fan. 
 

But sure, you can’t criticise anyone if they’re doing ‘good work’ can you. 

You’re quite happy to personally attack them though? Which parts aren’t factually correct?

[phantom]

15 minutes ago, old parkender said:

Please enlighten me on how putting countless hours into a campaign in your own time for free whilst paying for your own tickets to matches whilst receiving untold vile abuse from Neanderthals makes someone an arrogant vacuous grifter? I had you down as one of the more reasonable posters on here but it turns out you’re just another misogynistic idiot. 
clearly you have a pretty big axe to grind here

I have to ask, do you know the person being referred to?

[phantom]

2 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said:

I don’t disagree with your post at all fella, I completely agree that the cause is fantastic and has done an awful lot of good at some clubs. The first part I also agree with however and forms part of my issue with them as a cause. 

I get where your posts are coming from, I don't think others know what you are referring to hence why they see your post as something attacking

[old parkender]

1 minute ago, phantom said:

I have to ask, do you know the person being referred to?

Yes I do

[The Gasbuster]

18 hours ago, Ska Junkie said:

City / the police proved he was a lying piece of crap!

As for the gasheads calling the bullshitting pr@t out for being a pathological liar, fair play to them. 

It's about time that Henbury Lyingsagcunt actually identified the "City staff" who supposedly witnessed this attack.

I don't recall any staff being identified ? HLSC knows full well there would be court action if he did, because he made it all up, of course.

[Former Pirate]

4 minutes ago, old parkender said:

Yes I do

Quelle surprise. 
 

I’m out. 

[old parkender]

There’s a small group of internet warriors who’ve gone to extreme lengths to discredit hergametoo spreading increasingly ludicrous and defamatory rumours about the founders in an attempt to get them shut down( god only knows why) but they seem to be very bitter and twisted about it. I’m afraid a few people seem to have bought into the bullshit and propagate the myths, I can assure you it’s absolutely laughable some of the shit that’s been put on social media but it’s no laughing matter for young women to be relentlessly targeted and lied about. 

[Former Pirate]

1 minute ago, old parkender said:

There’s a small group of internet warriors who’ve gone to extreme lengths to discredit hergametoo spreading increasingly ludicrous and defamatory rumours about the founders in an attempt to get them shut down( god only knows why) but they seem to be very bitter and twisted about it. I’m afraid a few people seem to have bought into the bullshit and propagate the myths, I can assure you it’s absolutely laughable some of the shit that’s been put on social media but it’s no laughing matter for young women to be relentlessly targeted and lied about. 

Fella you have no idea what I base my opinions on, but for the record I agree that baseless internet bullshit is not good and it isn’t a laughing matter for young women to be relentlessly targeted and lied about.

My personal opinion has been formed on said persons behaviour in the past towards and impacting people I know. I’ve not said what, when or who but you say you know that person. If you really know that person you’ve probably got an idea so I’ll leave it there. 

[Seventeen]

I've taken some time before commenting. As said before I haven't attended since Joey.

I was seriously hoping although still a bad move the club had released the rumour with the intent of seeing the reaction before signing him. 

What's more embarrassing is the amount of fans who are defending it and then attacking those who are against it. Some of the comparisons made have been utterly embarrassing. Everyone from management to board level at the club are absolutely vile throughout.

 

Not my football club and likely won't be for a very long time. 

[Former Pirate]

1 minute ago, Percy Pig said:

You make a good point at the end, of course everyone is subject to scrutiny and their actions should be criticised when it falls below acceptable standards. 

And I did see the Swansea fans history and agree that that individual is pretty odious. 

But on your first point I really don't understand how you can evidence an assertion about someone's motivation. As far as I can tell, that's a very personal thing.

Taking advantage of perks is human nature. I'd also presume that utilising "corporate freebies" is actually a mutually beneficial exercise as it helps to widen the message. 

And Its that bigger picture that wins out for me. I don't tend to criticise those who take action. It's far too easy to be like me, a coward who knows right from wrong but rarely, if ever, does anything risky to stop the "wrong". 

 

Questioning the motives when someone accepts freebies but declines to comment on issues which the very cause SHOULD take issue with is justified IMHO. 

[old parkender]

5 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said:

Fella you have no idea what I base my opinions on, but for the record I agree that baseless internet bullshit is not good and it isn’t a laughing matter for young women to be relentlessly targeted and lied about.

My personal opinion has been formed on said persons behaviour in the past towards and impacting people I know. I’ve not said what, when or who but you say you know that person. If you really know that person you’ve probably got an idea so I’ll leave it there. 

You can have your own opinion, I can take a good guess at what you refer,all I’ll say is  there’s two sides to every story, I could probably unload a lot of accusations myself but I wouldn’t do that on any public forum. Some people might lower themselves to that but it’s not for me. 

[Former Pirate]

4 minutes ago, old parkender said:

You can have your own opinion, I can take a good guess at what you refer,all I’ll say is  there’s two sides to every story, I could probably unload a lot of accusations myself but I wouldn’t do that on any public forum. Some people might lower themselves to that but it’s not for me. 

…and I haven’t done that either. I have my view, you have yours. 

[Former Pirate]

5 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

I must admit to not knowing the situation you're talking of FP.

But as we are currently talking in vagueries then I'll suggest that an individual commenting out of turn (over the head of the official line if you will) is always a risk. I don't think it should be the place of these individual women to become spokesmen against rich and powerful men/football clubs. The organisation itself should shield them from having to make individual proclamations. 

As I say, accepting freebies is usually a good move for a growing campaign to share platforms, gain traction and grow visibility. Unless its a free house for life for one person I don't really see the issue or contradiction. It's just effective campaigning from a positive angle. 

I’ll ask one question which might shed some light on my comment to which you reply.

Did you ever see HGT comment on Barton being arrested and charged with hitting his wife? Or Barton telling BBC commentator Jacqui Oatley that women shouldn’t comment on men’s football?

In my opinion being pictured with club directors and the manager himself I believe while remaining silent on such matters makes it perfectly acceptable to question the motives of those concerned. 

[old parkender]

Couldn’t comment on Barton’s live legal case for reasons already covered, made a formal complaint to the club about Barton’s comments about oatley which prompted an apology from the idiot. I don’t recall seeing a picture of them with Barton only him holding a HGT board up at a game, a hollow gesture from the man as we know. 

[Former Pirate]

4 minutes ago, old parkender said:

Couldn’t comment on Barton’s live legal case for reasons already covered, made a formal complaint to the club about Barton’s comments about oatley which prompted an apology from the idiot. I don’t recall seeing a picture of them with Barton only him holding a HGT board up at a game, a hollow gesture from the man as we know. 

Ah the ‘can’t comment for legal reasons’ argument. You most definitely can comment on things like that but you need to tread carefully. They may well have complained to the club about the Jacqui Oatley thing but I don’t recall it once ever being mentioned publically. Come to think of it I’ve never seen said apology either. Not a good look for the campaign to remain silent on these matters. The whole point of awareness is for people to see it. Complaining in quiet does absolutely nothing. 

[old parkender]

2 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said:

Ah the ‘can’t comment for legal reasons’ argument. You most definitely can comment on things like that but you need to tread carefully. They may well have complained to the club about the Jacqui Oatley thing but I don’t recall it once ever being mentioned publically. Come to think of it I’ve never seen said apology either. Not a good look for the campaign to remain silent on these matters. The whole point of awareness is for people to see it. Complaining in quiet does absolutely nothing. 

They have a legal advisor, the advice is to NOT comment on live legal cases as you can be in contempt of court, it’s not hard to understand is it? Barton’s backtracking and sudden profession of liking the woman’s game and weasling out of his criticism was directly due to being asked by the club to retract his comments. 
At the end of the day Bristol Rovers have put that campaign in a damned if you do damned if you don’t position. What would have happened if they’d have laced into Barton about his court case which he walked Scott free from? 

[GreedyHarry]

Quick everybody. New stand or new ground or something……. over there

[David Brent]

1 hour ago, Seventeen said:

I've taken some time before commenting. As said before I haven't attended since Joey.

I was seriously hoping although still a bad move the club had released the rumour with the intent of seeing the reaction before signing him. 

What's more embarrassing is the amount of fans who are defending it and then attacking those who are against it. Some of the comparisons made have been utterly embarrassing. Everyone from management to board level at the club are absolutely vile throughout.

 

Not my football club and likely won't be for a very long time. 

Welcome 

[richwwtk]

Well, I googled Amy Clement and can only find good things.

If she really is as bad as to colour your opinion of the whole movement then I guess I will have to take your word for it.

[Former Pirate]

4 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

Well, I googled Amy Clement and can only find good things.

If she really is as bad as to colour your opinion of the whole movement then I guess I will have to take your word for it.

Lots of deleted tweets tell a different story. A lot of people have seen it and she issued the obligatory ‘I was young’ defence to the racist and homophobic tweets that have since gone. 

[PHILINFRANCE]

Still on the subject of the Jevani Brown transfer, it seems Rovers already have their new song.

OK, it's not (really) funny, but I quite like Ricky Gervais and Jimmy Carr, so, with my apologies:

'Jevani Brown's on fire, Her Game Too are terrified'
 

[Jim Davey]

How is the new stand coming on ?

[Former Pirate]

8 minutes ago, Jim Davey said:

How is the new stand coming on ?

Still not a fork in the ground… no chance of planning in time for September. 

[archie andrews]

22 minutes ago, Jim Davey said:

How is the new stand coming on ?

adverts for local tradesmen needed going in shop windows soon............

[SirColinOfMansfield]

27 minutes ago, Jim Davey said:

How is the new stand coming on ?

I thought I would buy a season ticket for the new stand as it will be the place to be in 2023...

[weepywall]

5 minutes ago, archie andrews said:

adverts for local tradesmen needed going in shop windows soon............

That's not true...its local "retired" tradesmen looking to keep their hand in...must be hundreds of retired stadium erectors in the Bristol area looking for a bit of part time work.

[Lanterne Rouge]

21 minutes ago, weepywall said:

That's not true...its local "retired" tradesmen looking to keep their hand in...must be hundreds of retired stadium erectors in the Bristol area looking for a bit of part time work.

Some of the lads who worked on the second Severn bridge must be getting on a bit now and might be interested.

[Maesknoll Red]

On 26/06/2023 at 10:02, Former Pirate said:

Morning Chaps/Chapesses,

Long time no speak. Thought I’d drop in to see what was happening, bit quiet in the world of BRFC isn’t it? 

I’m officially done with this club now and consider myself an ex-supporter. Done with the constant bullshit from the Merseyside Mafia and every decision that’s made being further and further away from the club I grew to love, that used to be a genuine family club (stop laughing). 

Barton can do what he likes for all I care now, the reaction from a lot of fans shows me they deserve him and his band of merry *****. 

Rivalry aside I hope you’re all keeping well, and if anyone can help change my profile name from ‘Fordingbridge Pirate’ to ‘Former Pirate’…!

Much love,

FP

Happy to help convert lost souls……

[City Rocker]

2 hours ago, Former Pirate said:

Still not a fork in the ground… no chance of planning in time for September. 

Fair to say there's no chance of planning or building consents being granted in time, but on the contrary, they're pushing ahead with the build full speed, without so much as a nod to the necessary regulations. 

Implicit from the tone of Wael's big announcement a couple of months ago, they plan to blame others (NIMBYs, anti-Rovers councilors, etc) when the season starts and they don't have consent to use the stand, despite having sold season tickets for it. 

Contrary to their statement at the time, "Planning permissions and building regulations have all been submitted", that wasn't actually true, it was a big lie, but they went ahead and started work anyway. 

“Given the scale of the development, timelines are tight and we will be doing all we can to ensure that the new structure is in place as quickly as possible, with minimum disruption. That said, as with any development of this nature, there is always the chance of delays that are out of our control, but we have done all we can to look to mitigate this risk.

"Planning permissions and building regulations have all been submitted, and the club is working with our Safety Advisory Group to make sure that all regulations are covered as part of the build process, so that the new development can be signed-off for use at the earliest possible opportunity.

"We would like to ask supporters to remain patient whilst we work through these improvements, but the expectation is that they will be completed in time for the new season." 

Condensed version: we will bully our way through this, regardless of due process or the rights of our neighbours. 

[Open End Numb Legs]

10 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Some of the lads who worked on the second Severn bridge must be getting on a bit now and might be interested.

That's ageism.

What about those who worked on the 1st Severn Bridge?

[Monkeh]

9 hours ago, City Rocker said:

Fair to say there's no chance of planning or building consents being granted in time, but on the contrary, they're pushing ahead with the build full speed, without so much as a nod to the necessary regulations. 

Implicit from the tone of Wael's big announcement a couple of months ago, they plan to blame others (NIMBYs, anti-Rovers councilors, etc) when the season starts and they don't have consent to use the stand, despite having sold season tickets for it. 

Contrary to their statement at the time, "Planning permissions and building regulations have all been submitted", that wasn't actually true, it was a big lie, but they went ahead and started work anyway. 

“Given the scale of the development, timelines are tight and we will be doing all we can to ensure that the new structure is in place as quickly as possible, with minimum disruption. That said, as with any development of this nature, there is always the chance of delays that are out of our control, but we have done all we can to look to mitigate this risk.

"Planning permissions and building regulations have all been submitted, and the club is working with our Safety Advisory Group to make sure that all regulations are covered as part of the build process, so that the new development can be signed-off for use at the earliest possible opportunity.

"We would like to ask supporters to remain patient whilst we work through these improvements, but the expectation is that they will be completed in time for the new season." 

Condensed version: we will bully our way through this, regardless of due process or the rights of our neighbours. 

That normally ends one way, with the new installation having to be torn down

[The Gasbuster]

1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

That normally ends one way, with the new installation having to be torn down

If that were to happen; that would be one of the greatest gifts from them ever !
 

(after getting relegated to non league of course).

Edited June 28, 2023 by The Gasbuster

[Open End Numb Legs]

1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

That normally ends one way, with the new installation having to be torn down

They should leave the allen key handy.

[Gert Mare]

9 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said:

If that were to happen; that would be one of the greatest gifts from them ever !
 

(after getting relegated to non league of course).

I’ve got the bag of popcorn open already. They really need to change their stance to ‘we’ll lap it up once it actually starts to happen’, but we know that they won’t do that, they’ll just cling to anything because they are that desperate and needy and that’s what gives us the laughs.

[RedRock]

1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

That normally ends one way, with the new installation having to be torn down

Yes. Councillors, generally, take a pretty dim view of premature erections. 

The question is, have the Council good grounds for a refusal ? If they have, and they receive objections from local residents - impact on residential amenity, traffic and parking issues immediately spring to mind - that could well make life very difficult for our gassy friends. 

I thought from the outset that they were taking a massive risk. That said, if the height and massing of the stand has no greater impact on local residents that the old stand and there is no increase in capacity … I suspect they’ll get it. 
 

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

As things stand (pardon the pun) away supporters visiting their ground face the prospect of no seats, no cover and probably, no price reduction? I’m sure they’ll all enjoy that!

Just now, RedRock said:

Councillors, generally, take a pretty dim view of premature erections. 

We all do. 

[bcfc01]

All the hallmarks of a classic Pikey cock up.

 

[1960maaan]

I'm no expert, but I just had a look and I still can't even see an application. 
There have been excuses , at the end of April James Piercy mentions there had been an application but then says Rovers hadn't detailed how big the Stand would be. OK, give them that , it might just be they didn't tell the Post. Wael goes on to say.....

“Given the scale of the development, timelines are tight and we will be doing all we can to ensure that the new structure is in place as quickly as possible, with minimum disruption. That said, as with any development of this nature, there is always the chance of delays that are out of our control, but we have done all we can to look to mitigate this risk.”

I had a quick look and still can't see any application, anyone more ITK on these things know any better ? 
Could this be getting excuses in early? Not applying then blaming someone else ? Does seem odd taking the old stand down & moving/selling the big TV unless you were serious about  the new one. 

Any experts on here that could shed some serious light as to what may be happening ? 
Are there ways around Planning? Previous structure footprint or something else. While I like just taking piss, I'm interested now.

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

Rovers get their man again!

Fans over the moon!

”Hes got a past, haven’t we all HAPPY DAYZ” they say.

”who cares what he does outside football as long as he gets us in the same division as the shit…up da gaz”

“PROWED TOBE GAS” another one paints on his fence.

 

[Steve Watts]

12 hours ago, City Rocker said:

Fair to say there's no chance of planning or building consents being granted in time, but on the contrary, they're pushing ahead with the build full speed, without so much as a nod to the necessary regulations. 

Implicit from the tone of Wael's big announcement a couple of months ago, they plan to blame others (NIMBYs, anti-Rovers councilors, etc) when the season starts and they don't have consent to use the stand, despite having sold season tickets for it. 

Contrary to their statement at the time, "Planning permissions and building regulations have all been submitted", that wasn't actually true, it was a big lie, but they went ahead and started work anyway. 

“Given the scale of the development, timelines are tight and we will be doing all we can to ensure that the new structure is in place as quickly as possible, with minimum disruption. That said, as with any development of this nature, there is always the chance of delays that are out of our control, but we have done all we can to look to mitigate this risk.

"Planning permissions and building regulations have all been submitted, and the club is working with our Safety Advisory Group to make sure that all regulations are covered as part of the build process, so that the new development can be signed-off for use at the earliest possible opportunity.

"We would like to ask supporters to remain patient whilst we work through these improvements, but the expectation is that they will be completed in time for the new season." 

Condensed version: we will bully our way through this, regardless of due process or the rights of our neighbours. 

Since when was planning permission required to construct something from IKEA?

[Merrick's Marvels]

19 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Yes. Councillors, generally, take a pretty dim view of premature erections. 

The question is, have the Council good grounds for a refusal ? If they have, and they receive objections from local residents - impact on residential amenity, traffic and parking issues immediately spring to mind - that could well make life very difficult for our gassy friends. 

I thought from the outset that they were taking a massive risk. That said, if the height and massing of the stand has no greater impact on local residents that the old stand and there is no increase in capacity … I suspect they’ll get it. 
 

 

I strongly suspect the Mayor will just wave this through retrospectively.

The new stand won't increase their capacity by so much that parking/amenities will be adversely affected, surely? And although it's a bigger tent than the one its replacing, I don't think it will impact the houses behind that much - and I'm not sure that's even still a thing these days, "right to light" being a thing of the past (I think).    

[City Rocker]

31 minutes ago, RedRock said:

.... if the height and massing of the stand has no greater impact on local residents that the old stand and there is no increase in capacity … I suspect they’ll get it. 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

I strongly suspect the Mayor will just wave this through retrospectively.

The new stand won't increase their capacity by so much that parking/amenities will be adversely affected, surely? And although it's a bigger tent than the one its replacing, I don't think it will impact the houses behind that much - and I'm not sure that's even still a thing these days, "right to light" being a thing of the past (I think).    

It will be roughly twice the height of the old one, with about 2,500 additional seats. 

[Sleepy1968]

12 hours ago, City Rocker said:

Fair to say there's no chance of planning or building consents being granted in time, but on the contrary, they're pushing ahead with the build full speed, without so much as a nod to the necessary regulations. 

Implicit from the tone of Wael's big announcement a couple of months ago, they plan to blame others (NIMBYs, anti-Rovers councilors, etc) when the season starts and they don't have consent to use the stand, despite having sold season tickets for it. 

Contrary to their statement at the time, "Planning permissions and building regulations have all been submitted", that wasn't actually true, it was a big lie, but they went ahead and started work anyway. 

“Given the scale of the development, timelines are tight and we will be doing all we can to ensure that the new structure is in place as quickly as possible, with minimum disruption. That said, as with any development of this nature, there is always the chance of delays that are out of our control, but we have done all we can to look to mitigate this risk.

"Planning permissions and building regulations have all been submitted, and the club is working with our Safety Advisory Group to make sure that all regulations are covered as part of the build process, so that the new development can be signed-off for use at the earliest possible opportunity.

"We would like to ask supporters to remain patient whilst we work through these improvements, but the expectation is that they will be completed in time for the new season." 

Condensed version: we will bully our way through this, regardless of due process or the rights of our neighbours. 

Condensed version is 'we're too stupid to know we're fked'

[Merrick's Marvels]

1 minute ago, City Rocker said:

 

It will be roughly twice the height of the old one, with about 2,500 additional seats. 

Thank you, didn't know the specifics. That is quite a bit bigger. I guess they'll just say - "We won't fill it anyway, so there's nothing to worry about"!

And I still believe Rees will make sure everything is smoothed over and waved through, retrospectively if necessary. 

[Bristol Rob]

31 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Thank you, didn't know the specifics. That is quite a bit bigger. I guess they'll just say - "We won't fill it anyway, so there's nothing to worry about"!

And I still believe Rees will make sure everything is smoothed over and waved through, retrospectively if necessary. 

Hopefully their planning application includes traffic management and all that jazz.

If they are increasing capacity, then parking and transport options would surely need to be included.

[Former Pirate]

1 hour ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Rovers get their man again!

Fans over the moon!

”Hes got a past, haven’t we all HAPPY DAYZ” they say.

”who cares what he does outside football as long as he gets us in the same division as the shit…up da gaz”

“PROWED TOBE GAS” another one paints on his fence.

 

In fairness though he’s not in the first team, he’s joined to look after the youth team. Wait…

[Former Pirate]

1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

I'm no expert, but I just had a look and I still can't even see an application. 
There have been excuses , at the end of April James Piercy mentions there had been an application but then says Rovers hadn't detailed how big the Stand would be. OK, give them that , it might just be they didn't tell the Post. Wael goes on to say.....

“Given the scale of the development, timelines are tight and we will be doing all we can to ensure that the new structure is in place as quickly as possible, with minimum disruption. That said, as with any development of this nature, there is always the chance of delays that are out of our control, but we have done all we can to look to mitigate this risk.”

I had a quick look and still can't see any application, anyone more ITK on these things know any better ? 
Could this be getting excuses in early? Not applying then blaming someone else ? Does seem odd taking the old stand down & moving/selling the big TV unless you were serious about  the new one. 

Any experts on here that could shed some serious light as to what may be happening ? 
Are there ways around Planning? Previous structure footprint or something else. While I like just taking piss, I'm interested now.

The one positive is that I know someone in the planning department of BCC and it definitely has been submitted. Not sure on exact date though and their portal is abysmal for updating things. 
 

Either way they aren’t getting approval this side of September absolute best case.