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1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

I strongly suspect the Mayor will just wave this through retrospectively.

The new stand won't increase their capacity by so much that parking/amenities will be adversely affected, surely? And although it's a bigger tent than the one its replacing, I don't think it will impact the houses behind that much - and I'm not sure that's even still a thing these days, "right to light" being a thing of the past (I think).    

Re: right to light no longer being a thing, does that mean we could build a bigger stand to replace the Atyeo?  I always thought the issue was right to light?

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1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

And I still believe Rees will make sure everything is smoothed over and waved through, retrospectively if necessary. 

 

The planning committee of BCC makes the decision. The Mayor is only involved in policy decisions on the strategic plan - like where to put a new concert venue and/or if the proposals are financed by major amounts of BCC cash. 

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4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

The planning committee of BCC makes the decision. The Mayor is only involved in policy decisions on the strategic plan - like where to put a new concert venue and/or if the proposals are financed by major amounts of BCC cash. 

Yes, I know RR. But do you think that's how it will pan out in reality, given Rees' personal bias and the historic inclination for BCC to bend over backwards for the Blue Few?  

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2 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Yes, I know RR. But do you think that's how it will pan out in reality, given Rees' personal bias and the historic inclination for BCC to bend over backwards for the Blue Few?  

Do they really 'bend over backwards' for them?

Their ground is a dump so I can't see how on earth they've benefited from anything. Except not having a demolition order imposed. Maybe that was it ?

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55 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Do they really 'bend over backwards' for them?

Their ground is a dump so I can't see how on earth they've benefited from anything. Except not having a demolition order imposed. Maybe that was it ?

No, the council has always been relatively nuetral when it comes to the cities football teams,

 

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3 hours ago, Former Pirate said:

The one positive is that I know someone in the planning department of BCC and it definitely has been submitted. Not sure on exact date though and their portal is abysmal for updating things. 
 

Either way they aren’t getting approval this side of September absolute best case. 

There's a 6-8 month delay in allocating planning applications to officers at BCC at the moment. 

I suspect Rovers will try and bully their way through the system by starting building and then pleading with the council that they can jump the queue as it would be urgent. 

It's a very unprofessional and risky way of going about doing things, but consistent with Rovers under Wael. 

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1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

No, the council has always been relatively nuetral when it comes to the cities football teams,

 

Neutral as support nothing the 2 clubs want to do , but just you wait if either club ( I mean city ) get to the premiership you watch them jump on the bandwagon with all the media coverage etc that goes with premiership football, 

absolutely useless 

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9 minutes ago, redkev said:

Neutral as support nothing the 2 clubs want to do , but just you wait if either club ( I mean city ) get to the premiership you watch them jump on the bandwagon with all the media coverage etc that goes with premiership football, 

absolutely useless 

I bet they wouldn't, they have never supported sporting success in this City, they would continue to put more and more obstacles in the way for the club and the fans.

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49 minutes ago, redkev said:

Neutral as support nothing the 2 clubs want to do , but just you wait if either club ( I mean city ) get to the premiership you watch them jump on the bandwagon with all the media coverage etc that goes with premiership football, 

absolutely useless 

No as if they favour one, the other crys foul, that's why they never helped us in 82, and never helped the gas find land for a new ground

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So on the JB thing a lot of gas over on our forum saying it could be nothing - could be as little as a push and everyone’s getting worked up etc. Wait for the full story(why didn’t the club?)

I have saw the tweets from the alleged sister of the alleged victim and they’re not great reading. One implies he punched her head from behind unprovoked and repeatedly, knocked her to the ground and carried on and also spat at her. 
 

Some more digging reveals she’s said that there is footage and he also attacked police on the scene. 

 

So there’s footage out there and also tweets with a version of what happened from someone allegedly related to the alleged victim yet some of our moronic idiots are defending it, playing it down and some even saying well lucky us cos we’ve got a good player out of it when we wouldn’t have otherwise!!! 
 

Even if this is false if the club have done their due diligence they would have found this and waited until the trial!! 
 

I thought Joey and his nonsense was the final straw but the way gas fans have reacted is completely embarrassing and I don’t think I could ever go to the same stadium full of so many people with so little morals even after Joeys gone. 

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3 minutes ago, Seventeen said:

So on the JB thing a lot of gas over on our forum saying it could be nothing - could be as little as a push and everyone’s getting worked up etc. Wait for the full story(why didn’t the club?)

I have saw the tweets from the alleged sister of the alleged victim and they’re not great reading. One implies he punched her head from behind unprovoked and repeatedly, knocked her to the ground and carried on and also spat at her. 
 

Some more digging reveals she’s said that there is footage and he also attacked police on the scene. 

 

So there’s footage out there and also tweets with a version of what happened from someone allegedly related to the alleged victim yet some of our moronic idiots are defending it, playing it down and some even saying well lucky us cos we’ve got a good player out of it when we wouldn’t have otherwise!!! 
 

Even if this is false if the club have done their due diligence they would have found this and waited until the trial!! 
 

I thought Joey and his nonsense was the final straw but the way gas fans have reacted is completely embarrassing and I don’t think I could ever go to the same stadium full of so many people with so little morals even after Joeys gone. 

Go on their forum and tell 'em.

See what you get :yawn:

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44 minutes ago, Seventeen said:

So on the JB thing a lot of gas over on our forum saying it could be nothing - could be as little as a push and everyone’s getting worked up etc. Wait for the full story(why didn’t the club?)

I have saw the tweets from the alleged sister of the alleged victim and they’re not great reading. One implies he punched her head from behind unprovoked and repeatedly, knocked her to the ground and carried on and also spat at her. 
 

Some more digging reveals she’s said that there is footage and he also attacked police on the scene. 

 

So there’s footage out there and also tweets with a version of what happened from someone allegedly related to the alleged victim yet some of our moronic idiots are defending it, playing it down and some even saying well lucky us cos we’ve got a good player out of it when we wouldn’t have otherwise!!! 
 

Even if this is false if the club have done their due diligence they would have found this and waited until the trial!! 
 

I thought Joey and his nonsense was the final straw but the way gas fans have reacted is completely embarrassing and I don’t think I could ever go to the same stadium full of so many people with so little morals even after Joeys gone. 

Every club has scumbag supporters.

There are posters on Gaschat who are clearly very unhappy about this signing and the reputation Rovers are getting and are not afraid to make themselves unpopular voicing their objections. I respect that.

Incredible to see that other posters who are not so well known are immediately branded ‘shitheads’ stirring the pot as if having morals is something that’s alien to a lot of the posters on there. I can understand yours and others frustration.

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14 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

I bet they wouldn't, they have never supported sporting success in this City, they would continue to put more and more obstacles in the way for the club and the fans.

Yes your probably right ,  but an anti colston march legal or illegal or a LGBT march they would be all supportive of that .

think we saw that couple of years back , if football fans done what some Pfizer those protesters done ( whether you agree or not ) the police would of been swinging batons with a big smile on there faces and the evening post would have been football scum 

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29 minutes ago, redkev said:

Yes your probably right ,  but an anti colston march legal or illegal or a LGBT march they would be all supportive of that .

think we saw that couple of years back , if football fans done what some Pfizer those protesters done ( whether you agree or not ) the police would of been swinging batons with a big smile on there faces and the evening post would have been football scum 

 

At root politicians know that there are no votes to be gained in taking the side of football fans against the police because the great majority of those with no personal knowledge of a particular incident will assume that it was the police dealing with hooliganism and the fans deserved what they got.

I cannot ever see that changing tbh.

If you're a football fan then you are generally assumed to be in the wrong.

The successful overturning of prosecutions by football supporters' groups receive very little publicity outside of football forums.

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31 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

At root politicians know that there are no votes to be gained in taking the side of football fans against the police because the great majority of those with no personal knowledge of a particular incident will assume that it was the police dealing with hooliganism and the fans deserved what they got.

I cannot ever see that changing tbh.

If you're a football fan then you are generally assumed to be in the wrong.

The successful overturning of prosecutions by football supporters' groups receive very little publicity outside of football forums.

Sadly very true, apparently we're all mindless yobs

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1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

At root politicians know that there are no votes to be gained in taking the side of football fans against the police because the great majority of those with no personal knowledge of a particular incident will assume that it was the police dealing with hooliganism and the fans deserved what they got.

I cannot ever see that changing tbh.

If you're a football fan then you are generally assumed to be in the wrong.

The successful overturning of prosecutions by football supporters' groups receive very little publicity outside of football forums.

Most football fans will also fall into some other voting demographic to which a politician or party can direct policies to win that vote.

Very few football fans will solely vote by considering a party's football focused policies. Most, if not all, will care about the NHS, immigration, education, the economy etc. Therefore there's no need to develop football specific policies, or to particularly care about football fans as a distinct part of the big venn diagram of voters.

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1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

At root politicians know that there are no votes to be gained in taking the side of football fans against the police because the great majority of those with no personal knowledge of a particular incident will assume that it was the police dealing with hooliganism and the fans deserved what they got.

I cannot ever see that changing tbh.

If you're a football fan then you are generally assumed to be in the wrong.

The successful overturning of prosecutions by football supporters' groups receive very little publicity outside of football forums.

Unfortunately a reputation gained in the 70s and 80s that we are all tarred with.

It still amazes me that the people that earned us that reputation are still often lauded (on here, and elsewhere) as top lads or somesuch and people reminicse about those days without challenge

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1 hour ago, richwwtk said:

Unfortunately a reputation gained in the 70s and 80s that we are all tarred with.

It still amazes me that the people that earned us that reputation are still often lauded (on here, and elsewhere) as top lads or somesuch and people reminicse about those days without challenge

It is unfortunate that a reputation hangs around for a long time and is difficult to get rid of, but people themselves can and often do change.

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Meanwhile up at Horfield they are starting construction of the new Bristol Rovers wing

 

If you hold a general safety certificate, you must notify the local authority before extending, or altering the sports ground or installations - for example, by changing the entrances or exits.

You must allow authorised officers to inspect your sports ground and take copies of your records at any reasonable time.

Failure to comply with the safety certificate requirements may result in a fine and/or imprisonment for up to two years.

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11 minutes ago, bert tann said:

Meanwhile up at Horfield they are starting construction of the new Bristol Rovers wing

 

If you hold a general safety certificate, you must notify the local authority before extending, or altering the sports ground or installations - for example, by changing the entrances or exits.

You must allow authorised officers to inspect your sports ground and take copies of your records at any reasonable time.

Failure to comply with the safety certificate requirements may result in a fine and/or imprisonment for up to two years.

Not sure this really applies 

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3 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

If they are changing a stand they will be changing the entrance and exit so it very much applies,

 

They aren't though, it'll be the same entry points 

It's only the actual stand changing 

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Just now, phantom said:

I hate to say I'm not honestly sure what you are referring to 

Our in house barrister.

Admittedly third hand information but I'm told the capacity of the stand could be limited to approximately 1400 until permission is granted which may take up to a year and even then would not necessarily be for the requested number. Any breach of the safety certificate requirements could well result in the services of Mr Csoka being called upon.   

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7 minutes ago, bert tann said:

Our in house barrister.

Admittedly third hand information but I'm told the capacity of the stand could be limited to approximately 1400 until permission is granted which may take up to a year and even then would not necessarily be for the requested number. Any breach of the safety certificate requirements could well result in the services of Mr Csoka being called upon.   

Thank you for explanation 

Certainly sounds very likely 

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That list excludes the all important 2019 ‘stadium’ improvement of fixing a fibreglass porch canopy over a (single) door entrance to one of the Club rooms. They actually published a photograph of this monumental achievement.

Give Wally some credit FFS. Tinpot they are not. 

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30 minutes ago, TomF said:

Built a new 3000 seater stand making it out to be even something like the Ayteo stand would be a bit rich.  It’s still a temp stand ffs 

When we talk about the way they exaggerate figures on here, I think some people must think it's just "banter", then you see posts like this and wonder how long it will before it's a 5000 seater with indoor facilities that other clubs can only dream of. 

4 minutes ago, RedRock said:

That list excludes the all important 2019 ‘stadium’ improvement of fixing a fibreglass porch canopy over a (single) door entrance to one of the Club rooms. They actually published a photograph of this monumental achievement.

Give Wally some credit FFS. Tinpot they are not. 

Let's not forget the improved disabled section (4 new garden chairs for the carers) and the second most money spent on a stadium after Tottenham Hotspur, the man is Midas incarnate.

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Do they really need a new, modern, high tech ticketing system to get 8,000 home fans into a mostly terraced old rugby ground?

 

https://verifiedfootballupdate.com/rovers-announce-new-access-system-partnership/?fbclid=IwAR2UAyPEmuJgWs4EsTsQHUHtsSPLkCa0XSr98iYwsTaTN30uzHjh_QJbhGw

 

*edit, Dave says the £10 cash only gate will still be available 

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1 hour ago, myol'man said:

Do they really need a new, modern, high tech ticketing system to get 8,000 home fans into a mostly terraced old rugby ground?

 

https://verifiedfootballupdate.com/rovers-announce-new-access-system-partnership/?fbclid=IwAR2UAyPEmuJgWs4EsTsQHUHtsSPLkCa0XSr98iYwsTaTN30uzHjh_QJbhGw

 

*edit, Dave says the £10 cash only gate will still be available 

From that link.....

"Bristol ****** join an illustrious list of stadiums that operate using an Axess and Ticketmaster partnership, with the Hard Rock Stadium, Miami – home of the Dolphins – and Miami F1 Grand Prix in the US being a flagship client. 

Rovers will be hoping that it can deliver an NFL matchday experience level to its own fans next season. "

 

Not like them to liken themselves to something way out of their league. Having said that I hope the day never comes when we aspire to be like the NFL!

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5 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

From that link.....

"Bristol ****** join an illustrious list of stadiums that operate using an Axess and Ticketmaster partnership, with the Hard Rock Stadium, Miami – home of the Dolphins – and Miami F1 Grand Prix in the US being a flagship client. 

Rovers will be hoping that it can deliver an NFL matchday experience level to its own fans next season. "

 

Not like them to liken themselves to something way out of their league. Having said that I hope the day never comes when we aspire to be like the NFL!

I'm guessing Axess and Ticketmaster might not be adding the gas to their promotional literature

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