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1 hour ago, BS30 City said:

Oh I see….it wasn’t actually him that carried out the assault then it was the drink? Oh, well, not so bad then if it was the naughty alcohols fault. All hail to the ale!! ?

”I go down pub and I have 10 pints, oh dear I think I’m getting plastered, I go outside and I beat up wench cuz I’m a p1ssed up Gashead b4stard….chuckie chuckie chuckie”

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44 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Crazy amount of Gas jumping to defend him. How depressing. 

Not really, the cult of Barton.

Once you’ve reconciled yourself to appointing him & Spendlove then you’re on the road to accepting pretty much anything.

Those that refuse to watch them under him have my total respect but they’re a small percentage.

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7 minutes ago, Son of Fred said:

Didn't we sign Simpson ???

 

I'm sure we did.

Yes & both were wrong.

We didn’t employ a convicted criminal as our manager or a chief scout who was on trial for the manslaughter of a policeman, though.

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13 minutes ago, Son of Fred said:

Didn't we sign Simpson ???

 

I'm sure we did.

7 years after it happened. This happened basically 5 months ago. He could’ve gone to prison for it. He was suspended by his club and hasn’t played football since January basically. 
 

They’ve taken the facts that presumably he’s given them, and gone “okay, he spat at a woman, slapped her in the face twice so hard she had bruising on both cheeks, threaten her mate….yeah fine get him in”. because no othe club will want to touch him, and if they did they couldn’t afford him. Selling themselves, again, to try and get promoted at any costs when he’s not even of the quality to risk doing it for. 
 

To try and paint him in a better light, they used a picture of him and his kids together as his “debut picture” for social media. It’s absolutely grim. 

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So, the thug manager has a stadium ban kicking in from game one for four games for verbally assaulting a refereee both on and off the pitch, their new striker pleads guilty of two accounts of assault against women, and their head coach is waiting on the outcome of alleged homophobic verbal abuse directed at a Plymouth staff member.

Not a bad start to the season for them.

Last pre-season it was the thug up before the beak on a charge of assaulting his wife. I may have missed others.

Nice family club.

Not.

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Further, well thought through objections:-

Comment:

I vigorously object to the development application ref 23/01441/F as proposed in current
plans on the basis that it will have a significant detrimental impact upon residential amenities.


1)The proposed development is twice the height of the previous structure, meaning that the proposed new stand will significantly overshadow the neighbouring properties. This in turn will negatively impact on the light available in those neighbouring properties both in habitable rooms and garden spaces. It will significantly overshadow the neighbouring property/ies due to the proposed development being on land higher than the neighbouring street, and the height of the proposed development itself. Reducing the light by unacceptable levels.


2) Due to the height and open nature of the stands (as it appears on the plans) the proposed development would result in a loss of privacy by overlooking the neighbouring property/ies and gardens when the proposed development is occupied. This is compounded by the fact the site already sits higher than the neighbouring properties. This would also be true of individuals who
could overlook private gardens when using the under stand concourse.


3) The proposed addition of seating capacity by 2000, would further adversely affect the traffic safety and parking in the area by increasing cars visiting the area, which is already adversely affected on match days.


4) The additional 2000 person capacity will lead to an increase in noise and disturbance. The negative impact is compounded by the proposed ground level concourse containing toilets and
food outlets, meaning additional foot traffic (and associated noise) on the boundary between the proposed development and neighbouring property.

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1 hour ago, readie14 said:

Very interested to see what they have to say now?

I don't think there is much they can say, other than they stand united with victims of violence.

They should have condemmed us after the Simpson signing and they should be removing any affiliation with Rovers as well.

If they don't, then their campaign - which is to be applauded - loses any credibility. 

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I don't think anyone in their right mind would condone assault, I certainly don't, but we have courts and procedures to deal with those who break the law. Is it just footballers we think should lose their living as a result of a conviction, or is it everyone? Is it just assault on women that deserves the extra punishment, or should we extend it to assault on men as well, or on a certain age group? Is it just violent crime we want to apply extra sanctions to, or should we apply it to scammers as well who cause such heartbreak and ruin? Or drink drivers, or drug users?

 

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12 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I don't think anyone in their right mind would condone assault, I certainly don't, but we have courts and procedures to deal with those who break the law. Is it just footballers we think should lose their living as a result of a conviction, or is it everyone? Is it just assault on women that deserves the extra punishment, or should we extend it to assault on men as well, or on a certain age group? Is it just violent crime we want to apply extra sanctions to, or should we apply it to scammers as well who cause such heartbreak and ruin? Or drink drivers, or drug users?

 

Me personally if you hit a woman you’re a *** end of. Rovers City doesn’t matter. But a quote from Wally regarding the thug you have in charge was along the lines of 

but club president Wael Al Qadi wrote in an open letter that Rovers stood “firmly against any form of violence” and that “any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately”.

Well you’re new guy has been found guilty, but hey maybe you’re owner has had a change of heart.

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6 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I don't think anyone in their right mind would condone assault, I certainly don't, but we have courts and procedures to deal with those who break the law. Is it just footballers we think should lose their living as a result of a conviction, or is it everyone? Is it just assault on women that deserves the extra punishment, or should we extend it to assault on men as well, or on a certain age group? Is it just violent crime we want to apply extra sanctions to, or should we apply it to scammers as well who cause such heartbreak and ruin? Or drink drivers, or drug users?

 

The point is,your club signed a man,who whilst with his previous club, had been accused of assault,rather than waiting for the outcome of the court case you signed him anyway.The company I work for wouldn’t have touched him with a barge pole, with that hanging over him.

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4 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I don't think anyone in their right mind would condone assault, I certainly don't, but we have courts and procedures to deal with those who break the law. Is it just footballers we think should lose their living as a result of a conviction, or is it everyone? Is it just assault on women that deserves the extra punishment, or should we extend it to assault on men as well, or on a certain age group? Is it just violent crime we want to apply extra sanctions to, or should we apply it to scammers as well who cause such heartbreak and ruin? Or drink drivers, or drug users?

 

You seem to be trying very hard to convince yourself it's all ok because a court dealt with it, whilst saying you don't condone it, then asking a load of strange questions about a load of other stuff.

Do people think it is only footballers who should lose their living after pleading guilty to 2 assaults against a woman? Definitely not. 

Let's be fair here, footballers are meant to be role models for people to look up to, especially kids.

Your mob have signed a player who was still in the middle of all of this, and you (Barton/Wael) signed him because nobody else wanted him, and he was simply going cheap. 

Many would have thought slightly different if you did the same signing a year or two down the line and came out with all the rehabilitation rubbish, but no, not Barton, sign him when he has just pleaded guilty and with another charge hanging over him.

Family club my arse. The last couple of seasons will have you down as one of the most despised clubs in the UK. 

Your club deserves Barton and Barton deserves your club. 

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9 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Me personally if you hit a woman you’re a *** end of. Rovers City doesn’t matter. But a quote from Wally regarding the thug you have in charge was along the lines of 

but club president Wael Al Qadi wrote in an open letter that Rovers stood “firmly against any form of violence” and that “any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately”.

Well you’re new guy has been found guilty, but hey maybe you’re owner has had a change of heart.

Looks like that link has now been removed….

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23 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I don't think anyone in their right mind would condone assault, I certainly don't, but we have courts and procedures to deal with those who break the law. Is it just footballers we think should lose their living as a result of a conviction, or is it everyone? Is it just assault on women that deserves the extra punishment, or should we extend it to assault on men as well, or on a certain age group? Is it just violent crime we want to apply extra sanctions to, or should we apply it to scammers as well who cause such heartbreak and ruin? Or drink drivers, or drug users?

 

There are plenty of occupations where a criminal record, regardless of exactly what crime took place, would preclude you from working in that role. In recent years, those limitations have become widespread across more jobs than before.

It should be seen as a deterrent to doing bad things.

In this case there is extra focus, not by the law, but by public opinion because football is a high profile sport, the players are in the public eye.

Personally I think everyone deserves a 2nd chance. When it comes to violence though, my opinion becomes a lot less forgiving.

Hope that explains where I am.

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30 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Me personally if you hit a woman you’re a *** end of. Rovers City doesn’t matter. But a quote from Wally regarding the thug you have in charge was along the lines of 

but club president Wael Al Qadi wrote in an open letter that Rovers stood “firmly against any form of violence” and that “any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately”.

Well you’re new guy has been found guilty, but hey maybe you’re owner has had a change of heart.

I'm waiting........

 

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1 hour ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I don't think anyone in their right mind would condone assault, I certainly don't, but we have courts and procedures to deal with those who break the law. Is it just footballers we think should lose their living as a result of a conviction, or is it everyone? Is it just assault on women that deserves the extra punishment, or should we extend it to assault on men as well, or on a certain age group? Is it just violent crime we want to apply extra sanctions to, or should we apply it to scammers as well who cause such heartbreak and ruin? Or drink drivers, or drug users?

 

Sounds as though you’re suggesting, Miah, that you feel that Jevani Brown is attracting somewhat unfair attention on here because a fit, professional male athlete when drunk, assaults not one but two women, which is no worse a crime than many others. I think that is known, these days, as “whataboutery”. 

I have never, would never, strike a woman, whatever the provocation. I despise any man who would; in my eyes they are the lowest of the low. Yes there are many other crimes worthy of punishment but that’s not at issue here.  The fact is that the club which you support has just signed a convicted criminal who has a recognised problem with alcohol. Whichever way you look at it, it’s not a good look for your club although you do seem to be taking on the commendable role of a halfway house for the rehabilitation of offenders. 
 

I’m thankful, more than ever, that your club isn’t my club. 

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44 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

There are plenty of occupations where a criminal record, regardless of exactly what crime took place, would preclude you from working in that role. In recent years, those limitations have become widespread across more jobs than before.

It should be seen as a deterrent to doing bad things.

In this case there is extra focus, not by the law, but by public opinion because football is a high profile sport, the players are in the public eye.

Personally I think everyone deserves a 2nd chance. When it comes to violence though, my opinion becomes a lot less forgiving.

Hope that explains where I am.

Exactly this.
 

There are also plenty of people working for companies that don’t require a clean record to hire you, but would deem being found guilty of a crime as bringing the company into disrepute and dismiss you for gross misconduct.

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5 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

This is so unlike Rovers.

Here they were celebrating a multiple woman murderer in 2017.

 

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And then the usual suspects finding some way of justifying it.

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https://gasheads.org/thread/6925/fred-west

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-rovers-fan-accused-taking-790420

This is the owner of the flag… 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/british-football-fan-stabbed-in-bratislava-after-england-world-cup-qualifier-a3337606.html

 

yeah yeah yeah but he’s “sound” & a memeber of their “gas hit squad” too though. 

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2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Me personally if you hit a woman you’re a *** end of. Rovers City doesn’t matter. But a quote from Wally regarding the thug you have in charge was along the lines of 

but club president Wael Al Qadi wrote in an open letter that Rovers stood “firmly against any form of violence” and that “any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately”.

Well you’re new guy has been found guilty, but hey maybe you’re owner has had a change of heart.

I agree, I'm sure he will say something along the lines of' I meant if they committed the offence while employed by us' We live in an age where when anything happens clubs feel the need to put out a meaningless corporate statemnen. That one was particularly strongly worded, but, like you say, he will wriggle out of it somehow.

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3 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I agree, I'm sure he will say something along the lines of' I meant if they committed the offence while employed by us' We live in an age where when anything happens clubs feel the need to put out a meaningless corporate statemnen. That one was particularly strongly worded, but, like you say, he will wriggle out of it somehow.

Fair reply. Hope you go down . :yes:

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A bit of a technical problem at the Mem :

Not sure how long the site has been like it, but at present you can not buy a S/T in the SW/South stand. Might be because the dots were all muddled up and needs sorting out.

Perhaps it would have been better to wait for the rows and seats to appear before getting "the dots" out and seats sold !

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How inconvenient that everything posted on the web gets archived!

So shame on Wael Al Qadi for being a hypocritical scumbag and removing his original posting rather than standing by his word!

https://web.archive.org/web/20210728181132/https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2021/july/Wael-al-qadi-letter/

 

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Club President's Open Letter to Fans...

27 July 2021

 
 
 
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Club President Wael Al Qadi has today penned an open letter to supporters...

Dear Gasheads, 

I have been here with you now for nearly five and a half years. I hope that through that time you have seen and felt my passion for this club, my openness with supporters and my understanding of the emotions that you feel on a day-to-day basis. 

 

We have a diverse fanbase, as was celebrated in our recent kit launch campaign and all supporters are welcome at The Mem to enjoy watching our club together.

However, the past four days have been tough for us all and I have seen first-hand that there is division within the fanbase which is not what we want heading into a new season.

Firstly, I think it is really important to confirm that as a club we stand firmly against any form of violence. Any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately. I understand the concerns expressed by a number of you. However, in line with the basic principles of British law, it is my view that you are innocent until proven guilty. 

I have seen and understand the response to the statement that was released last night. Given that this is a legal matter, what we can and can’t say as a club is heavily restricted. That said, I think it is important that some context is given to the comment regarding victimless crimes as I know that has caused some distress. The phrase is a legal term referring to cases in which the victim is either unknown or has not made a complaint/engaged with the police enquiries. We in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse. 

I know that this may have been misinterpreted in the statement last night and I wholeheartedly apologise to anyone that was offended. 

As has been well publicised we are partners with the team at HerGameToo and continue to play an active role in supporting that initiative. Furthermore, before we were aware of this issue we agreed last week to support a Domestic Violence campaign which we will continue to do heading into the new season. In addition, in 2018 we partnered with the Southmead Project who provide free counselling and support for survivors of abuse and addiction across Bristol and surrounding areas. All of these causes are at the heart of our football club and we will continue to do all we can to support those in need. 

This period will have undoubtedly strained relationships, however, I hope that we can retain your trust and confidence as we look to continue to build the club and support our wider community.  

I hope that you can all join me in getting behind the team this season, we need your support now more than ever.

 

FTG 

 

Wael

Club President

Bristol Rovers Football Club

 
 

 

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7 minutes ago, SirColinOfMansfield said:

How inconvenient that everything posted on the web gets archived!

So shame on Wael Al Qadi for being a hypocritical scumbag and removing his original posting rather than standing by his word!

https://web.archive.org/web/20210728181132/https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2021/july/Wael-al-qadi-letter/

 

Club News

Club President's Open Letter to Fans...

27 July 2021

 
 
 
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Club President Wael Al Qadi has today penned an open letter to supporters...

Dear Gasheads, 

I have been here with you now for nearly five and a half years. I hope that through that time you have seen and felt my passion for this club, my openness with supporters and my understanding of the emotions that you feel on a day-to-day basis. 

 

We have a diverse fanbase, as was celebrated in our recent kit launch campaign and all supporters are welcome at The Mem to enjoy watching our club together.

However, the past four days have been tough for us all and I have seen first-hand that there is division within the fanbase which is not what we want heading into a new season.

Firstly, I think it is really important to confirm that as a club we stand firmly against any form of violence. Any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately. I understand the concerns expressed by a number of you. However, in line with the basic principles of British law, it is my view that you are innocent until proven guilty. 

I have seen and understand the response to the statement that was released last night. Given that this is a legal matter, what we can and can’t say as a club is heavily restricted. That said, I think it is important that some context is given to the comment regarding victimless crimes as I know that has caused some distress. The phrase is a legal term referring to cases in which the victim is either unknown or has not made a complaint/engaged with the police enquiries. We in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse. 

I know that this may have been misinterpreted in the statement last night and I wholeheartedly apologise to anyone that was offended. 

As has been well publicised we are partners with the team at HerGameToo and continue to play an active role in supporting that initiative. Furthermore, before we were aware of this issue we agreed last week to support a Domestic Violence campaign which we will continue to do heading into the new season. In addition, in 2018 we partnered with the Southmead Project who provide free counselling and support for survivors of abuse and addiction across Bristol and surrounding areas. All of these causes are at the heart of our football club and we will continue to do all we can to support those in need. 

This period will have undoubtedly strained relationships, however, I hope that we can retain your trust and confidence as we look to continue to build the club and support our wider community.  

I hope that you can all join me in getting behind the team this season, we need your support now more than ever.

 

FTG 

 

Wael

Club President

Bristol Rovers Football Club

 
 

 

Water tight contract from the billionaires 

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6 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

"..........professional footballer you are a role model to one or two young people that are being forced to attend games by their elderly relatives and would rather be with their mates at Bristol City matches."

The judges summing up, typical out of touch stereotype as in       " and who exactly are these Beatles to whom you refer ?"

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19 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

I read the statement as in he could have also been a role model for fans of his previous clubs

Absolutely true Lrrr but it's an excuse to take the piss out of the few and I couldn't resist the opportunity. ?

Apologies. 

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12 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Absolutely true Lrrr but it's an excuse to take the piss out of the few and I couldn't resist the opportunity. ?

Apologies. 

Wasn't just you really a few people before as well making similar points

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1 hour ago, SirColinOfMansfield said:

How inconvenient that everything posted on the web gets archived!

So shame on Wael Al Qadi for being a hypocritical scumbag and removing his original posting rather than standing by his word!

https://web.archive.org/web/20210728181132/https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2021/july/Wael-al-qadi-letter/

 

Club News

Club President's Open Letter to Fans...

27 July 2021

 
 
 
Large
 

 

Club President Wael Al Qadi has today penned an open letter to supporters...

Dear Gasheads, 

I have been here with you now for nearly five and a half years. I hope that through that time you have seen and felt my passion for this club, my openness with supporters and my understanding of the emotions that you feel on a day-to-day basis. 

 

We have a diverse fanbase, as was celebrated in our recent kit launch campaign and all supporters are welcome at The Mem to enjoy watching our club together.

However, the past four days have been tough for us all and I have seen first-hand that there is division within the fanbase which is not what we want heading into a new season.

Firstly, I think it is really important to confirm that as a club we stand firmly against any form of violence. Any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately. I understand the concerns expressed by a number of you. However, in line with the basic principles of British law, it is my view that you are innocent until proven guilty. 

I have seen and understand the response to the statement that was released last night. Given that this is a legal matter, what we can and can’t say as a club is heavily restricted. That said, I think it is important that some context is given to the comment regarding victimless crimes as I know that has caused some distress. The phrase is a legal term referring to cases in which the victim is either unknown or has not made a complaint/engaged with the police enquiries. We in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse. 

I know that this may have been misinterpreted in the statement last night and I wholeheartedly apologise to anyone that was offended. 

As has been well publicised we are partners with the team at HerGameToo and continue to play an active role in supporting that initiative. Furthermore, before we were aware of this issue we agreed last week to support a Domestic Violence campaign which we will continue to do heading into the new season. In addition, in 2018 we partnered with the Southmead Project who provide free counselling and support for survivors of abuse and addiction across Bristol and surrounding areas. All of these causes are at the heart of our football club and we will continue to do all we can to support those in need. 

This period will have undoubtedly strained relationships, however, I hope that we can retain your trust and confidence as we look to continue to build the club and support our wider community.  

I hope that you can all join me in getting behind the team this season, we need your support now more than ever.

 

FTG 

 

Wael

Club President

Bristol Rovers Football Club

 
 

 

Given recent events, he is in danger of some people interpreting him as being a hypocritical liar.

 

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1 hour ago, SirColinOfMansfield said:

How inconvenient that everything posted on the web gets archived!

So shame on Wael Al Qadi for being a hypocritical scumbag and removing his original posting rather than standing by his word!

https://web.archive.org/web/20210728181132/https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2021/july/Wael-al-qadi-letter/

 

Club News

Club President's Open Letter to Fans...

27 July 2021

 
 
 
Large
 

 

Club President Wael Al Qadi has today penned an open letter to supporters...

Dear Gasheads, 

I have been here with you now for nearly five and a half years. I hope that through that time you have seen and felt my passion for this club, my openness with supporters and my understanding of the emotions that you feel on a day-to-day basis. 

 

We have a diverse fanbase, as was celebrated in our recent kit launch campaign and all supporters are welcome at The Mem to enjoy watching our club together.

However, the past four days have been tough for us all and I have seen first-hand that there is division within the fanbase which is not what we want heading into a new season.

Firstly, I think it is really important to confirm that as a club we stand firmly against any form of violence. Any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately. I understand the concerns expressed by a number of you. However, in line with the basic principles of British law, it is my view that you are innocent until proven guilty. 

I have seen and understand the response to the statement that was released last night. Given that this is a legal matter, what we can and can’t say as a club is heavily restricted. That said, I think it is important that some context is given to the comment regarding victimless crimes as I know that has caused some distress. The phrase is a legal term referring to cases in which the victim is either unknown or has not made a complaint/engaged with the police enquiries. We in no way meant to belittle charges of domestic abuse. 

I know that this may have been misinterpreted in the statement last night and I wholeheartedly apologise to anyone that was offended. 

As has been well publicised we are partners with the team at HerGameToo and continue to play an active role in supporting that initiative. Furthermore, before we were aware of this issue we agreed last week to support a Domestic Violence campaign which we will continue to do heading into the new season. In addition, in 2018 we partnered with the Southmead Project who provide free counselling and support for survivors of abuse and addiction across Bristol and surrounding areas. All of these causes are at the heart of our football club and we will continue to do all we can to support those in need. 

This period will have undoubtedly strained relationships, however, I hope that we can retain your trust and confidence as we look to continue to build the club and support our wider community.  

I hope that you can all join me in getting behind the team this season, we need your support now more than ever.

 

FTG 

 

Wael

Club President

Bristol Rovers Football Club

 
 

 

Isn't Al Quidi a top top man with a nice watch who engages with the fans, I am sure if anyone asks him on Social Media what did he mean when he put out that statement originally he will reply with 100% honesty....

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4 minutes ago, TheReds said:

Isn't Al Quidi a top top man with a nice watch who engages with the fans, I am sure if anyone asks him on Social Media what did he mean when he put out that statement originally he will reply with 100% honesty....

Of course he will.

Its not as if he's a hypocritical liar is it..

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39 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Given recent events, he is in danger of some people interpreting him as being a hypocritical liar.

 

Couple that with his last interview on RB with twentyman showing…..he genuinely has no idea what he’s doing. 

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3 hours ago, Lewisdabaron said:

This is the owner of the flag… 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/british-football-fan-stabbed-in-bratislava-after-england-world-cup-qualifier-a3337606.html

 

yeah yeah yeah but he’s “sound” & a memeber of their “gas hit squad” too though. 

Saw him not that long ago...he can barely walk anymore 

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In a fairly bizarre philosophical leap some of the more demented posters on their forum are now spinning this signing of a violent convicted criminal as an altruistic act by St Joey of Barton who has actually signed him with the primary purpose of reforming and redeeming him, and is in a position to do this as he understands him given that his own charge sheet is as long as his arm.

They have gone so far beyond the pale now that even Lee Power-era Swindon fans will be appalled.

And as we all know, a fish rots from the head.

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Not such a nice man after all.

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8 hours ago, alexukhc said:

“It would be impossible for him to do community work, cuz of his job”

**** off, wouldn’t even read his apology in court n got his solicitor to read it out for him

get ******

Most footballers are on their way home by early to mid afternoon, they have more opportunity for community work than most.

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1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said:

In a fairly bizarre philosophical leap some of the more demented posters on their forum are now spinning this signing of a violent convicted criminal as an altruistic act by St Joey of Barton who has actually signed him with the primary purpose of reforming and redeeming him, and is in a position to do this as he understands him given that his own charge sheet is as long as his arm.

They have gone so far beyond the pale now that even Lee Power-era Swindon fans will be appalled.

And as we all know, a fish rots from the head.

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Not such a nice man after all.

You are right, it's a big leap isn't it? "call me Joe" is hardly the role model when it comes to reforming his ways since his convictions is he? To pretend he is some sort of psychologist or svengali is pushing it to say the least.

He's more like one of those AA sponsors who falls off the rails themselves.

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9 minutes ago, luke_bristol said:

Most footballers are on their way home by early to mid afternoon, they have more opportunity for community work than most.

It`s quite a common thing for players found guilty to have to do community service. They often end up doing their time coaching kids teams or something like that.

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3 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

It`s quite a common thing for players found guilty to have to do community service. They often end up doing their time coaching kids teams or something like that.

Not always…

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13 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Fair reply. Hope you go down . :yes:

I still stand by what I said in my original post btw, there are many, many crimes, committed by all sorts of people, not just footballers and the hypocrisy of the lynch mob knows no bounds, but that's all part of the modern world I'm afraid, along with vacuous meaningless statements put out by corporations, including football clubs, whenever they feel like they should be 'being seen' to be doing something. It's all incredibly depressing. Oh, and one more thing that got my goat, although it could just be me overthinking things. The welcome to Rovers post that was put out for Jevani Brown showed him in the kit with his kids. I don't think I have ever seen a welcome pic like that before, the cynical among us may be tempted to believe that was an attempt to portray him as a 'family man' and that sort of shite really does piss me off.

I don't think Rovers are any better or any worse than any other club at this sort of bollocks. Jevani Brown has been punished by the courts and not one of us will ever really know the circumstances behind what happened that night, but he isn't the first and he certainly won't be the last to be involved in something like this.

 

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6 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I still stand by what I said in my original post btw, there are many, many crimes, committed by all sorts of people, not just footballers and the hypocrisy of the lynch mob knows no bounds, but that's all part of the modern world I'm afraid, along with vacuous meaningless statements put out by corporations, including football clubs, whenever they feel like they should be 'being seen' to be doing something. It's all incredibly depressing. Oh, and one more thing that got my goat, although it could just be me overthinking things. The welcome to Rovers post that was put out for Jevani Brown showed him in the kit with his kids. I don't think I have ever seen a welcome pic like that before, the cynical among us may be tempted to believe that was an attempt to portray him as a 'family man' and that sort of shite really does piss me off.

I don't think Rovers are any better or any worse than any other club at this sort of bollocks. Jevani Brown has been punished by the courts and not one of us will ever really know the circumstances behind what happened that night, but he isn't the first and he certainly won't be the last to be involved in something like this.

 

You make some fair points but we do know that he was drunk and struck a woman twice. What other circumstances would mitigate his offence?

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11 minutes ago, chinapig said:

You make some fair points but we do know that he was drunk and struck a woman twice. What other circumstances would mitigate his offence?

The women asked for it according to some gasheads,

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3 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

.......but he isn't the first and he certainly won't be the last to be involved in something like this.

 

Well he won't be the last if society imposes lenient penalties and football clubs turn a blind eye - the whole point of deterrent is lost. What stops another player going out tonight and doing the same if they think it will just cost them a few £k?

According to Gaschat - 'We will rehabilitate him, we have done nothing wrong' etc. Maybe not but if that is how they want to be associated then they should expect a moral backlash too.

Technically and legally ok, morally and reputation wise - terrible news for the club and genuine fans.

For me the way back for this player is to put all his spare time into charitable and community work. It won't be good enough to just be a goal scoring hero. 

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4 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Well he won't be the last if society imposes lenient penalties and football clubs turn a blind eye - the whole point of deterrent is lost. What stops another player going out tonight and doing the same if they think it will just cost them a few £k?

According to Gaschat - 'We will rehabilitate him, we have done nothing wrong' etc. Maybe not but if that is how they want to be associated then they should expect a moral backlash too.

Technically and legally ok, morally and reputation wise - terrible news for the club and genuine fans.

For me the way back for this player is to put all his spare time into charitable and community work. It won't be good enough to just be a goal scoring hero. 

Just out of interest, what do you think the penalty should have been?

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24 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Who knows, and I'm not saying there are any. 

If there was further mitigation his lawyer would have presented it to the court. As it was mitigation seems to have been that he is an alcoholic but a good husband and father.

I struggle to see what evidence that would have gone in his favour would have been withheld from the court and why his lawyer would have not used it.

Speculating that there might have been evidence the court wasn't aware of seems to be clutching at straws and undermines your case.

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10 hours ago, alexukhc said:

“It would be impossible for him to do community work, cuz of his job”

**** off, wouldn’t even read his apology in court n got his solicitor to read it out for him

get ******

I recall Wayne Rooney wearing a hi-vis and doing some community work.

If it's good enough for him, then it is certainly good enough for this sag "nobody".

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8 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said:

I recall Wayne Rooney wearing a hi-vis and doing some community work.

If it's good enough for him, then it is certainly good enough for this sag "nobody".

And Eric Cantona. And Carlos Tevez. But apparently not a gas player. Maybe they just view signing for the gas as community service in itself. 

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44 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Just out of interest, what do you think the penalty should have been?

I don't think we should make up a new framework for the criminal justice system on a Saturday morning, I think you should focus on the other part of my reply, that Rovers have decided that they are happy to get a lot of bad publicity for taking him on.

Legally ok, but does it make you want to wear the infamous quarters when striding off to the shops?

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1 hour ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I still stand by what I said in my original post btw, there are many, many crimes, committed by all sorts of people, not just footballers and the hypocrisy of the lynch mob knows no bounds, but that's all part of the modern world I'm afraid, along with vacuous meaningless statements put out by corporations, including football clubs, whenever they feel like they should be 'being seen' to be doing something. It's all incredibly depressing. Oh, and one more thing that got my goat, although it could just be me overthinking things. The welcome to Rovers post that was put out for Jevani Brown showed him in the kit with his kids. I don't think I have ever seen a welcome pic like that before, the cynical among us may be tempted to believe that was an attempt to portray him as a 'family man' and that sort of shite really does piss me off.

I don't think Rovers are any better or any worse than any other club at this sort of bollocks. Jevani Brown has been punished by the courts and not one of us will ever really know the circumstances behind what happened that night, but he isn't the first and he certainly won't be the last to be involved in something like this.

 

I know what I think

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18 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Me personally if you hit a woman you’re a *** end of. Rovers City doesn’t matter. But a quote from Wally regarding the thug you have in charge was along the lines of 

but club president Wael Al Qadi wrote in an open letter that Rovers stood “firmly against any form of violence” and that “any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately”.

Well you’re new guy has been found guilty, but hey maybe you’re owner has had a change of heart.

................unless, of course, he's any good and we got him for free "!

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1 hour ago, chinapig said:

If there was further mitigation his lawyer would have presented it to the court. As it was mitigation seems to have been that he is an alcoholic but a good husband and father.

I struggle to see what evidence that would have gone in his favour would have been withheld from the court and why his lawyer would have not used it.

Speculating that there might have been evidence the court wasn't aware of seems to be clutching at straws and undermines your case.

I don't have and am not trying to make any case. 

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41 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

I don't think we should make up a new framework for the criminal justice system on a Saturday morning, I think you should focus on the other part of my reply, that Rovers have decided that they are happy to get a lot of bad publicity for taking him on.

Legally ok, but does it make you want to wear the infamous quarters when striding off to the shops?

If you mean do the actions of any individuals have a bearing on my support for Rovers, then no . Does that mean I support or condone the actions of those individuals, that's a no as well. I suspect that am no different to 99% of football fans of any club in that respect.

 

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