Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[cityal]

12 minutes ago, Gazred said:

Looks like a section from the TV show Kick Start...if anyone remembers that.

Contestants have to scramble up the dirt pile, slalom through the scaffolding poles, and hop over the JCB bucket; Then it is on to the tented section, once through there they will splash through the pond of fake fanta  before the final, terrifying, leap over "Sanata's groto".

[luke_bristol]

A structure of dubious construction hurriedly thrown together by an amateur to accommodate a bunch of animals….are we still talking about Noah’s ark?

[Open End Numb Legs]

Interesting photo update, somehow not surprising. Do we need one of those web based countdown timers?

2 in fact, one for the 1st game ko and the other for when the stand will be built because clearly the 2 moments will be months apart.

[miser]

1 minute ago, luke_bristol said:

A structure of dubious construction hurriedly thrown together by an amateur to accommodate a bunch of animals….are we still talking about Noah’s ark?

In future years, historians will be puzzled as despite many written words, they can find no physical trace. 

[Silvio Dante]

Scrolling through Twitter earlier and I was sure this was Barton at first glance 

 

 

[Ska Junkie]

This stand is certainly gonna be the cause of much mirth on here. 

'Like the Atyeo' wasn't it?

Bear in mind our South stand took a year to build and they've got a fortnight. For some reason, I suspect it's going to be 5hite, can't think why.  

[RedHienz]

Evolution.

These things take time.

We have the best people in place.

Fruit market in X years.

[Bristol Rob]

30 minutes ago, Gazred said:

Looks like a section from the TV show Kick Start...if anyone remembers that.

And I promise I haven't Google'd this but the theme tune is - I think - Be My Boogie Woogie Baby - by, Mr Walkie Talkie. 

[Ska Junkie]

4 minutes ago, RedHienz said:

Evolution.

These things take time.

We have the best people in place.

Fruit market in X years.

It's gonna be another temporary job innit?

[Open End Numb Legs]

Is this why they play in the 'quarters'?

Because quarter of the ground will be missing?

[David Brent]

I thought the stand was already built and they’re just waiting to wheel it in? 

[Jimmo]

That dump makes Kenilworth Road look like the Camp Nou

[Ska Junkie]

2 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Is this why they play in the 'quarters'?

Because quarter of the ground will be missing?

Gets their percentage attendance up so they will clearly need someone to build them a new ground, for nothing obviously.

Just now, Jimmo said:

That dump makes Kenilworth Road look like the Camp Nou

That's a building site as well.

[RedHienz]

2 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

It's gonna be another temporary job innit?

Has to be, they are moving to their new stadium soon which will be much better then the gate. 

 

 

[Bristol Rob]

The lack of panic about their new stand, either on their Forum of social media is amazing. 

Given we can generate thousands of posts about a below-par shirt that people have the option to buy (or not) you'd think that they would be tearing their hair out at the lack of updates/photos or noise about this new stand.

Pretty sure that if it was us who had a home game in a couple of weeks and were faced with a pile of rubble questions would be asked (and probably ignored), but asked they would be. 

[richyy66]

Hopefully it turns out a world of pain for them but I still believe it can be constructed within 3 weeks to complete. After all it is temp seating. Although they better get a move on as if they are waiting for planning consent then they could be waiting a while.

Either way it's going to be dawning on them soon.

 

[Homer Simpson]

At least the concourse is finished.

[bert tann]

A leaking question.

Has the cash raised through the Nationwide Finance loan been ring fenced for the new stand or is it being used to pay day to day running expenses ?

[richwwtk]

2 hours ago, richyy66 said:

Hopefully it turns out a world of pain for them but I still believe it can be constructed within 3 weeks to complete. After all it is temp seating. Although they better get a move on as if they are waiting for planning consent then they could be waiting a while.

Either way it's going to be dawning on them soon.

 

Even if it is physically built in time surely it will take a while to get a safety certificate for it? They can't just cobble a few bits of scaffolding together and then charge the public to sit in it straight away.

Edited July 17, 2023 by richwwtk

[Maltshoveller]

1 hour ago, Jimmo said:

That dump makes Kenilworth Road look like the Camp Nou

More roofs on  Kenilworth Road than the Camp Nou

[Homer Simpson]

33 minutes ago, bert tann said:

A leaking question.

Has the cash raised through the Nationwide Finance loan been ring fenced for the new stand or is it being used to pay day to day running expenses ?

Going by the current build, don't expect the ring fence to be finished anytime soon.

[miser]

2 hours ago, richyy66 said:

Hopefully it turns out a world of pain for them but I still believe it can be constructed within 3 weeks to complete. After all it is temp seating. Although they better get a move on as if they are waiting for planning consent then they could be waiting a while.

Either way it's going to be dawning on them soon.

 

You're forgetting the concourse with it's catering outlets and toilets, although it may turn out to be a no drink no pee zone. Steward on the gate - "Sorry sir, can't let you in, you appear to be hydrated. 

[Topper 123]

42 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

Even if not is physically built in time surely it will take a while to get a safety certificate for it? They can't just cobble a few bits of scaffolding together and then charge the public to sit in it straight away.

I was up that way today so drove right inside there to have a butchers , not a lot going on but nice pile of rubble on what I would call open end :laugh: took picture but won’t let me upload 

[Miah Dennehy]

2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

The lack of panic about their new stand, either on their Forum of social media is amazing. 

Given we can generate thousands of posts about a below-par shirt that people have the option to buy (or not) you'd think that they would be tearing their hair out at the lack of updates/photos or noise about this new stand.

Pretty sure that if it was us who had a home game in a couple of weeks and were faced with a pile of rubble questions would be asked (and probably ignored), but asked they would be. 

Panic? I think you take this football lark too seriously

[phantom]

4 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Panic? I think you take this football lark too seriously

I think there are more on this thread panic than those over on arsechat 

[Miah Dennehy]

4 minutes ago, phantom said:

I think there are more on this thread panic than those over on arsechat 

I'm not on it, but it does seem a major talking point on here

I mean, it's a piss take thread so fair enough, but although there was a time when I took it all far too seriously,  but I am way past worrying about what goes on behind the scenes at a football club.

[richyy66]

1 hour ago, richwwtk said:

Even if it is physically built in time surely it will take a while to get a safety certificate for it? They can't just cobble a few bits of scaffolding together and then charge the public to sit in it straight away.

They can. They are Bristol Rovers.

[Open End Numb Legs]

Point taken Miah but the scenes will be very much up front and centre if the Rovers season ticket holders have nowhere to sit and the rest of the ground has to be reorganised to accommodate the away fans including separation.

[Major Isewater]

22 hours ago, BS13 Robin said:

Sorry Major,but you would be rubbish on pop master surely thats Lionel Richie!!

They’re everywhere those pesky ceiling dancers. 
Oy you , get off my ceiling. 

[redkev]

1 hour ago, phantom said:

I think there are more on this thread panic than those over on arsechat 

Don’t mention the word panic , some people on here were on melt down on Saturday when we’re 2-1 down in a meaningless friendly

[Ska Junkie]

4 hours ago, David Brent said:

I thought the stand was already built and they’re just waiting to wheel it in? 

No, that's the new stadium. WAEL SAID they would be in in 2 years, erm, 3 years ago.

[phantom]

34 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Point taken Miah but the scenes will be very much up front and centre if the Rovers season ticket holders have nowhere to sit and the rest of the ground has to be reorganised to accommodate the away fans including separation.

It'll be worth keeping an eye on the Barnsley allocation 

If they only get the standing section on the side it answers all the questions 

[phantom]

1 hour ago, Magger1 said:

I was up that way today so drove right inside there to have a butchers , not a lot going on but nice pile of rubble on what I would call open end took picture but won’t let me upload 

Send it me on Facebook messenger if you want and I'll upload for you

[reddoh]

On 07/07/2023 at 11:38, slartibartfast said:

Whilst I'd love all this speculation about planning, regs etc.to be true, I can't believe that they would be so stupid to proceed without any assurances of it being passed. But still, it helps to pass the boring summer days !

oh eh oh ho ha but those summer nights

[redsquirrel]

they didnt call it wallyworld for nothing

[Swede]

7 hours ago, petehinton said:

 

That's a massive improvement but can I make a suggestion? Make that pile of rubble 10 feet higher then mercifully nobody can see the pitch.

[Spoonbed]

3 hours ago, Magger1 said:

I was up that way today so drove right inside there to have a butchers , not a lot going on but nice pile of rubble on what I would call open end took picture but won’t let me upload 

I was also up that way, and had a look around. Couple of things I noticed. 
1/ It really is an absolute shit hole and must surely be the worst in the league

2/ Apart from the film crew wagons there(?), I didn’t see any evidence of any construction work going on around their new “stand”

The whole ground had a feeling of death ( of a football club) feel to it imho. I would have some serious reservations if I was a blue nose. 

[RedRock]

Could this be another Dismaland Banksy creation in the offing? 

[Taz]

They'll just end up clearing that pile of crap out of the way (no not the stadium, the actual pile of crap) on the edge of the pitch, flatten it down (with an old rusted garden roller), and then pop to B & Q to get some more of the patio chairs.

Apparently they're also going to offer a discount of 50p if you can bring your own chair when you buy a ticket.

[Monkeh]

Imagine knocking down a stand before you get planning permission to build its replacement,

I reckon SAG told the gas they wouldn't give a safety cert for the old one and the gas are trying to save face,

You wait it will be the councils fault soon

[Galley is our king]

14 hours ago, bert tann said:

A leaking question.

Has the cash raised through the Nationwide Finance loan been ring fenced for the new stand or is it being used to pay day to day running expenses ?

What? A new stand and a fence?

Was the fence on the planning drawings?

Is it a proper fence or a row of white plastic chairs lashed together?

[phantom]

14 hours ago, phantom said:

It'll be worth keeping an eye on the Barnsley allocation 

If they only get the standing section on the side it answers all the questions 

Just had a look at the Barnsley OS - nothing on there yet 

Also had a look at their fans forums, nobody mentioned anything yet - clearly not aware of the potential shit show that they will potentially be a part of shortly

[Monkeh]

3 minutes ago, phantom said:

Just had a look at the Barnsley OS - nothing on there yet 

Also had a look at their fans forums, nobody mentioned anything yet - clearly not aware of the potential shit show that they will potentially be a part of shortly

Don't they have to provide a minimum amount something to do with their capacity or is that just the fa cup,

Ether way I would of though it's 900 at least, and they have to be housed somewhere which in turn restricts some of their remaining 8 stands 

[Open End Numb Legs]

So the old myth of fans being locked out could come true after all, though for different reasons.

[RedHienz]

Just now, Open End Numb Legs said:

So the old myth of fans being locked out could come true after all, though for different reasons.

It's what they do. 

[Open End Numb Legs]

Do you think the Barnsley fans will get suspicious when they are each handed an allen key and hi vis vest when getting on the coach?

[Red Army 75]

Rovers fans still crying about Matty Taylor. Ha ha 300k

[Bristol Rob]

2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Rovers fans still crying about Matty Taylor. Ha ha 300k

Saw that, it made me laugh a lot.

They do seem to have a weird obsession with former players. In fact this is probably the first year that they've not questioned if Cureton, Jason Roberts or Nathan Ellington 'could still do a job for us.... On a pay-as-the-play deal....' 

Oddly, they've not mentioned Lambert over on their forum who despite having some very odd views and seems to want to distance himself from logical thinking, hasn't gone bonkers enough to ever mention that he played for them. Seems that in amongst his 'happy water', he is happy to forget that he once one of them. 

[Swede]

That laughing stock of stadium tinpot makes Kenilworth Road look like Wembley. What a joke club they are.

[myol'man]

2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Rovers fans still crying about Matty Taylor. Ha ha 300k

Boy can they ever carry on a grudge?

Aparently this was their great "what if" moment!

If Taylor had stayed with them, they would have got promoted and we would have got relegated!

[phantom]

3 hours ago, Northern Red said:

Make it half the height, put a roof on it. . . . . . .

[Midlands Robin]

The other problem they have if they don't have the stand ready for their first home game is that they aren't generating the revenue to pay down the loan. 

Every week that goes on is an amount of cash wasted. Not only have they got to increase their average attendance just to pay down the loan, they are currently at a capacity of less than last season so they will be generating even less revenue than before. 

Edited July 18, 2023 by Midlands Robin

[Eddie Hitler]

4 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

The other problem they have if they don't have the stand ready for their first home game is that they aren't generating the revenue to pay down the loan. 

Every week that goes on is an amount of cash wasted. Not only have they got to increase their average attendance just to pay down the loan, they are currently at a capacity of less than last season so they will be generating even less revenue than before. 

 

That's true but Wael has been soaking up big losses for years, albeit a small fraction of those that the Lansdown family pick up for City, so unless he's running out of money this isn't going to be a problem.

Football clubs don't have the same business rules as other companies, losing millions a year is absolutely standard.

I suggested that the loan was taken out to try to impose some financial rigour upon the club in the same manner that the Ashton Gate redevelopment was funded by a third party loan, which the income from the new structures are steadily repaying.

@bert tann suggested otherwise and that it was a sign of stretched finances.

I don't have his inside track but I would have thought that if Wael is either running low on funds or no longer wishes to keep pouring the money in each year then he would have put the club up for sale rather than taking out a loan.

 

[BCFC11]

22 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

That's true but Wael has been soaking up big losses for years, albeit a small fraction of those that the Lansdown family pick up for City, so unless he's running out of money this isn't going to be a problem.

Football clubs don't have the same business rules as other companies, losing millions a year is absolutely standard.

I suggested that the loan was taken out to try to impose some financial rigour upon the club in the same manner that the Ashton Gate redevelopment was funded by a third party loan, which the income from the new structures are steadily repaying.

@bert tann suggested otherwise and that it was a sign of stretched finances.

I don't have his inside track but I would have thought that if Wael is either running low on funds or no longer wishes to keep pouring the money in each year then he would have put the club up for sale rather than taking out a loan.

 

Think @Kid in the Riot has said previously that Wally is/was actively looking to sell up?

[Bristol Rob]

9 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Think @Kid in the Riot has said previously that Wally is/was actively looking to sell up?

That's probably true for pretty much every club owner. Either because they stand to make a profit, of they are fed up with underwriting a loss.

It's a crazy business to be in. 

[Eddie Hitler]

21 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Think @Kid in the Riot has said previously that Wally is/was actively looking to sell up?

 

Well that would make sense of taking out the loan rather than putting more of his own money in.

The loan will go with the club but anything owed to him personally is going to be negotiated down as part of the sale.

[Kid in the Riot]

29 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Think @Kid in the Riot has said previously that Wally is/was actively looking to sell up?

Has been for at least a year or so, and there has been serious interest. 

[bert tann]

The football club, Memorial Stadium and training ground were offered for sale as a package at the start of 2022 but during the course of the year no buyers were found. I understand the price was gradually reduced until it reached a figure amounting to just over half the Dwane Sports Ltd mortgage charge but still no takers.

So now we are going for broke.

[bcfc01]

6 minutes ago, bert tann said:

The football club, Memorial Stadium and training ground were offered for sale as a package at the start of 2022 but during the course of the year no buyers were found. I understand the price was gradually reduced until it reached a figure amounting to just over half the Dwane Sports Ltd mortgage charge but still no takers.

So now we are going for broke.

Fixed.

[Bazooka Joe]

5 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Rovers fans still crying about Matty Taylor. Ha ha 300k

Surely, that should just be hisss-tory now.

From our perspective, it was money well ser-pent.

Fangs for the memory.

[Bazooka Joe]

55 minutes ago, bert tann said:

The football club, Memorial Stadium and training ground were offered for sale as a package at the start of 2022 but during the course of the year no buyers were found. I understand the price was gradually reduced until it reached a figure amounting to just over half the Dwane Sports Ltd mortgage charge but still no takers.

So now we are going for broke.

How can you go for something that you already are?

[Open End Numb Legs]

59 minutes ago, bert tann said:

The football club, Memorial Stadium and training ground were offered for sale as a package at the start of 2022 but during the course of the year no buyers were found. I understand the price was gradually reduced until it reached a figure amounting to just over half the Dwane Sports Ltd mortgage charge but still no takers.

So now we are going for broke.

With my sensible head on, at that time the world was still recovering financially from COVID. Still is I suppose but there have been purse strings tightened all over the place, look at what has happened to some Prem rugby clubs.

Sports clubs need long term plans, not quick fixes. Build up the squad, invest in youth, employ a wise head coach.

The cynic would say Rovers have had the dream of overseas money for some years now, 6th richest club etc. Time for that to bear fruit (no pun intended).

Temporary stands, loan players and a management team that your own fans dislike should not be plan A.

[bcfc01]

From their forum;

"Could be absolute b*llocks but…

Someone on one of the Facebook groups reckons a member of staff at the club informed them PP has been granted whilst at the club shop earlier."

I'd go for the first sentence personally..

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

4 hours ago, myol'man said:

Boy can they ever carry on a grudge?

Aparently this was their great "what if" moment!

If Taylor had stayed with them, they would have got promoted and we would have got relegated!

They were in a far better position a couple of seasons later when they were top 3 at Christmas and they still managed to cock that up.

Nothing to suggest they’d have kept their bottle that season even with Taylor in the side but he came to us and contributed towards our upturn in form at the end of the season. Shrapnel well spent.

Love the way they all act like a jilted ex, pretending they don’t care whilst stalking him obsessively.

Missed out on being a ‘Gas hero’ apparently…as if any pro footballer would give a shit 

[RedRock]

26 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

From their forum;

"Could be absolute b*llocks but…

Someone on one of the Facebook groups reckons a member of staff at the club informed them PP has been granted whilst at the club shop earlier."

I'd go for the first sentence personally..

The Council/decision would be in judicial review territory if they have! Pretty sure we’re still in the statutory consultation period. Personally, would have thought it would be highly improbable that a decision would be made within 8 weeks - which I think in this case is sometime late in August.

Frankly, having been involved in planning for 40 odd years, I can’t understand what the hell Rovers are doing with their submission and frankly  - all be it from the briefest of glances - how it got validated. It was patently obvious to anyone ITK that the ‘stand’ would not be remotely ready for the start of the season if due process was followed. I’m not even sure pp will be granted tbh. 
 

 

[petehinton]

2 hours ago, bert tann said:

The football club, Memorial Stadium and training ground were offered for sale as a package at the start of 2022 but during the course of the year no buyers were found. I understand the price was gradually reduced until it reached a figure amounting to just over half the Dwane Sports Ltd mortgage charge but still no takers.

So now we are going for broke.

I’d say it’s clear that’s the case. In no other year would you have spent this much on wages on 4 players. Problem is, it’s no way enough. And now you probably have nothing left to spend, whilst already being over budget, hence the dry up in all signings and literally any rumours.
 

No bids or clubs circling for Collins either, which deep down the club might’ve been hoping came to fruition. 
 

Barton has said the ‘not working for free’ line a few times, is an egomaniac so in his head wants to get out of L1 as soon as possible but again, hasn’t done well enough to be linked anywhere. 

[sglosbcfc]

Most one side derby in English football? It has to be, Forest v County and Stoke v Vale might challenge it I guess.

[phantom]

On 11/07/2023 at 11:49, downendcity said:

Just came across this.....

QED

Like the way he had to introduce a different category so it didn't look so bad for them!

 

9 hours ago, sglosbcfc said:

Most one side derby in English football? It has to be, Forest v County and Stoke v Vale might challenge it I guess.

Nice intentions in posting, but already ripped apart a few pages back

[22A]

20 hours ago, myol'man said:

If Taylor had stayed with them, they would have got promoted and we would have got relegated!

There was a post at the time;

"City'll probably immediately loan him back to us for the rest of the season. Just think; he'll score the goals that get us promoted and City'll be paying his wages".

Deluded few?

[Monkeh]

50 minutes ago, phantom said:

 

Nice intentions in posting, but already ripped apart a few pages back

It's one that needs to be reposted everytime they start getting chopsy