Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[italian dave]

7 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I saw an article recently , though not the same interesting. Developers demolished a Pub without permission.

To go ahead without permission would seen arrogant at best. I know some do get a jump on things, I've seen enough Grand Design programs to know that. But they are houses that haven't had dozens of complaints. 
 

Some on here may know the answer to this;
What would/could happen if they built it and the planning office wanted time to consider the complaints ?
Would they be allowed to get the safety side signed off ? 
Would they be allowed to use the Stand ?
Or would the entire area be off limits until planning and safety has been passed ?

I'm sure someone will know.

If you build without consent then you can certainly be required to take it down completely. And will be, if the consent isn’t granted (after appeal etc etc)

Demolition is a bit different. This one was a grade 2 building. I doubt anyone would see any merit at all in the collection of tents that was taken down at the Mem

They couldn’t use it without a safety certificate. Simple as. I’m assuming that wouldn’t be granted if there was no planning, but I’m not sure about that. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by italian dave

[SirColinOfMansfield]

A lot of people are really underestimating the ability of Rovers to get things done. It took less than 6 months of detailed planning & project management from the directors and the entire management team to come up with this beauty, so surely the new stand is in good hands???

[Port Said Red]

2 hours ago, Coombsy said:

 

Don't hold back Coombsy, say what you feel mate.

[Rudolf Hucker]

1 hour ago, italian dave said:

Demolition is a bit different. This one was a grade 2 building. I doubt anyone would see any merit at all in the collection of tents that was taken down at the Mem

The tents were probably a 2nd grade with a slight list. 

[italian dave]

5 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

The tents were probably a 2nd grade with a slight list. 

The Leaning Tent of the Mem

[italian dave]

39 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Don't hold back Coombsy, say what you feel mate.

I sympathise with @Coombsy

Sometimes when I see what’s going on over on the blue side, I’m speechless too!

[SecretSam]

4 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

Premium seat?

By Sags' standards, it's a golden throne

 

(Those seats are insanely comfortable, though) 

[Silvio Dante]

Genuinely, their admin is tweeting with the coordinates for Eastville followed by a picture of an IKEA.

Because I’d like nothing more than to commemorate the fact I’d lost my traditional home and seen it replaced by a megastore.

[Ska Junkie]

Just now, Silvio Dante said:

Genuinely, their admin is tweeting with the coordinates for Eastville followed by a picture of an IKEA.

Because I’d like nothing more than to commemorate the fact I’d lost my traditional home and seen it replaced by a megastore.

Better crowds at the mega store. 

What were they getting before leaving Eastville? Less than 4k iirc.

[pongo88]

3 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

I saw an article recently , though not the same interesting. Developers demolished a Pub without permission.

To go ahead without permission would seen arrogant at best. I know some do get a jump on things, I've seen enough Grand Design programs to know that. But they are houses that haven't had dozens of complaints. 
 

Some on here may know the answer to this;
What would/could happen if they built it and the planning office wanted time to consider the complaints ?
Would they be allowed to get the safety side signed off ? 
Would they be allowed to use the Stand ?
Or would the entire area be off limits until planning and safety has been passed ?

I'm sure someone will know.

This is interesting, as with the pub, the developers were ordered to rebuild it as it was listed. Surely the old tent structure, demolished by Rovers, must have historical value, as it was unique across the entire football league. Perhaps Rovers should be ordered to reinstate it 

[Rudolf Hucker]

4 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

This is interesting, as with the pub, the developers were ordered to rebuild it as it was listed. Surely the old tent structure, demolished by Rovers, must have historical value, as it was unique across the entire football league. Perhaps Rovers should be ordered to reinstate it 

The Mem was less demolition, more breaking camp. 

[chinapig]

15 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

This is interesting, as with the pub, the developers were ordered to rebuild it as it was listed. Surely the old tent structure, demolished by Rovers, must have historical value, as it was unique across the entire football league. Perhaps Rovers should be ordered to reinstate it 

The first Grade 2 listed tent?

[petehinton]

Christ they really are dragging out a shirt release arent they. It’s not exactly big news. The season starts next week!!

Edited July 28, 2023 by petehinton

[Ronnie Sinclair]

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

Genuinely, their admin is tweeting with the coordinates for Eastville followed by a picture of an IKEA.

Because I’d like nothing more than to commemorate the fact I’d lost my traditional home and seen it replaced by a megastore.

And that more people attend said megastore than the stadium it replaced (and its successor) 

[Bas's perfect hattrick]

3 hours ago, SirColinOfMansfield said:

A lot of people are really underestimating the ability of Rovers to get things done. It took less than 6 months of detailed planning & project management from the directors and the entire management team to come up with this beauty, so surely the new stand is in good hands???

The budget office whiteboard with wonky blue and white quarters is my favourite. Or the grotty stains on the floor. 

[RedRock]

21 minutes ago, Bas's perfect hattrick said:

The budget office whiteboard with wonky blue and white quarters is my favourite. Or the grotty stains on the floor. 

Agree.

The whiteboard just about sums them up.

Tinpot they are not.

They’re worse. Far worse.

[Unan]

Brilliant, we’ve just been joking about having a flat pack stadium ground and they’ve gone and done this.

 

 

[petehinton]

They’ve been teasing a kit for 4 hours. Christ. 

[Rudolf Hucker]

14 minutes ago, petehinton said:

They’ve been teasing a kit for 4 hours. Christ. 

If you’ve subscribed to Joey’s Twitter account you probably already know what their new shirt will be, who’ll be wearing it and when the new stand will be completed. Bargain. 

[myol'man]

33 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Brilliant, we’ve just been joking about having a flat pack stadium ground and they’ve gone and done this.

 

 

IKEA took the Tote End

[Unan]

6 hour wait for that...

[Gazred]

6 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

6 hour wait for that...

And we thought we had collar issues...

[Bar BS3]

17 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

6 hour wait for that...

In fairness, that is possibly the first of their kits that hasn't made me laugh at them.

Disregard the quarters monstrosity & it's better than they usually produce.

I thought they were rebounding their badge a year or so ago though..?

Those will fly off the shelves & you'll see literally 10's of them dotted around the rehab centres of North Bristol.!

[Port Said Red]

31 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

6 hour wait for that...

Is that him posing in the IKEA area next to the tills? What is that saying about them? "Look closely behind and you will see our new stand in boxes ready to be delivered".

 

[petehinton]

Wael teased most the summer to ‘expect something different’ from this seasons kit. New Bristol live reporter for them said to expect a busy day today, and it’s seemingly just this and them giving a deal to a trialist who’s jumping up about 7 divisions. They can never escape the gift. 

[Red Army 75]

49 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

6 hour wait for that...

That’s up there with Tesco bag kit. Saying that it’s shit every year 

[22A]

12 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

 Saying that it’s shit every year 

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Bristol_Rovers/Bristol_Rovers.htm 1920 - 28 looked smart.

[redkev]

3 hours ago, Bas's perfect hattrick said:

The budget office whiteboard with wonky blue and white quarters is my favourite. Or the grotty stains on the floor. 

How are the players gonna read the tactics with all that tak over it 

[Dredd]

I mean at least we aren't using Ikea to launch our kits. Leaving Eastville left them homeless for years till they cuckoo's the Mem from the rugby club, seems an odd thing to use in a promo

[Ronnie Sinclair]

1 hour ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

6 hour wait for that...

Why does every player that poses in their kit (including new signings), have a look on their face like they are en route to the gallows? 

[Mayes86]

27 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Why does every player that poses in their kit (including new signings), have a look on their face like they are en route to the gallows? 

Or a prison cell.

[Mayes86]

All the comments I’ve seen are a mixture of “that’s a bangin kit” “six hour wait for that?” And many “I don’t get what it has to do with ikea”. 

i know they don’t have much, if any history but a lot don’t even seem to know their old stadium was located where Ikea is now I think it’s all a bit strange promoting it inside ikea though.

I don’t get how they can get excited over kit releases when they just copy and paste each season but with a different shade of blue. 

[GrahamC]

13 minutes ago, Mayes86 said:

Or a prison cell.

Based on a couple of their recent signings that one is fairly obvious.

[redsquirrel]

14 minutes ago, Mayes86 said:

All the comments I’ve seen are a mixture of “that’s a bangin kit” “six hour wait for that?” And many “I don’t get what it has to do with ikea”. 

i 

nothing to do with ikea, it was raining and they needed somewhere dry to do the photoshoot. 

 

correct me if im wrong but is this barbed wire  in front of the camera?

[Open End Numb Legs]

1 minute ago, redsquirrel said:

 

correct me if im wrong but is this barbed wire  in front of the camera?

To keep them in?

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

57 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Why does every player that poses in their kit (including new signings), have a look on their face like they are en route to the gallows? 

Rubbish!

They always look happy to be there.

[Open End Numb Legs]

5 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

 

On 2nd look at the steps, they appear to have struck coal during the foundations work.

Could be the only rich seam of form they will find this year.

[redsquirrel]

1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said:

That’s up there with Tesco bag kit. Saying that it’s shit every year 

they just recruited him from there to help with their megastore shelf stacking

[PHILINFRANCE]

4 hours ago, myol'man said:

IKEA took the Tote End

 

[City Rocker]

I'm told that after "someone at the football club spoke to someone at the council" they were given the impression that because the proposed new structure is not as tall as the plans approved in 2008, the application process should be quick and straightforward. 

It seems they've now been assured that's not the case at all. The local councillor has requested that the application be referred to Development Committee rather than be determined by the officers. The club have belatedly engaged a planning consultant to gather the necessary additional documents for the application, but these are yet to be submitted. 

So it's all looking quite promising then. 

[Kid in the Riot]

3 minutes ago, City Rocker said:

I'm told that after "someone at the football club spoke to someone at the council" they were given the impression that because the proposed new structure is not as tall as the plans approved in 2008, the application process should be quick and straightforward. 

It seems they've now been assured that's not the case at all. The local councillor has requested that the application be referred to Development Committee rather than be determined by the officers. The club have belatedly engaged a planning consultant to gather the necessary additional documents for the application, but these are yet to be submitted. 

So it's all looking quite promising then. 

That's exactly right. They are honestly so shambolic. They'll get planning but this episode once again proves what a tinpot outfit they are. 

And some of their fans think the club will deliver an actual new stadium at the fruit market

[luke_bristol]

13 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

That's exactly right. They are honestly so shambolic. They'll get planning but this episode once again proves what a tinpot outfit they are. 

And some of their fans think the club will deliver an actual new stadium at the fruit market

One of their senior directors bought a basket of fruit at Sainsbury’s once (pre-boycott) and therefore assumed the process will be similar 

[Pedrowe]

It's a calamitous situation. Anyone involved in planning/construction/real estate (or anyone with basic common sense) is aware of the risks associated with the planning system in England, especially in a city like Bristol, where there is an informed and active community. At the end of the day, it's just a small stand. If they had followed professional advice, conducted a thorough public consultation, and submitted a well-prepared application in a timely manner, they would likely have obtained planning permission without any issues. However, their decision to start work without permission, along with their subpar application and insufficient time given to the Council to review it, has led to a self-inflicted mess. They've essentially caused this problem themselves. Undoubtedly they’ll start blaming the Council and everyone but themselves. However the fact of the matter is it all could’ve been avoided if they had done the job properly.

[Pedrowe]

BBC is now reporting on the circus  

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-66342084

They’ve got themselves in real mess and it’s all for a little tiddler of a stand!

 

[sticks 1969]

I’m working on a site in south mead and got talking to someone working on the new stand at travis Perkins 

he blamed the ground works for a lot of the problems and the big hold up. Never got the chance to ask about planning issues 

[GrahamC]

On 19/07/2023 at 20:31, red from the blue side said:

Tinpot time again. A new lottery scheme to fund their academy. The "Pirates Pot" 

https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/july/pirates-pot/

Apparently less than 50 turned up to the launch of this, they were expecting nearer 150.

Pretty obvious why if you scroll back half a dozen pages on this thread & no doubt in a few years they’ll be saying 300 turned up & more were locked out.

Tinpot *****.

[redkev]

The way things are going with there stand I can see Bristol with an underground system before that stand gets built 

and we all know that underground system ain’t gonna happen ( nothing happens in Bristol that needs the council backing and funds ) 

[Gazred]

3 minutes ago, Pedrowe said:

BBC is now reporting on the circus  

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-66342084

They’ve got themselves in real mess and it’s all for a little tiddler of a stand!

 

"The council has advised the club that no work should take place before permission is granted."

And that's why it currently looks like landfill.

Tinpot.

[Lew-T]

They’re just like you’re embarrassing little sibling. 
 

Good grief.

[redkev]

1 minute ago, sticks 1969 said:

I’m working on a site in south mead and got talking to someone working on the new stand at travis Perkins 

he blamed the ground works for a lot of the problems and the big hold up. Never got the chance to ask about planning issues 

Never got the chance to ask about the planning issues as you were doubled over with laughter about the groundwork’s bullshit , 

[Open End Numb Legs]

It may be an example of how not to develop a football ground but on a selfish note I am sure we are very grateful for the entertainment value it has given us through the summer.

Like a film you don't want to end.

from me.

[redkev]

Did they honestly think they could knock down a stand ( sorry take down a tent ) and just build a stand with no planning permission , safety certificate and all the other things that go with building a structure ffs .

[City Rocker]

3 minutes ago, Gazred said:

"The council has advised the club that no work should take place before permission is granted."

And that's why it currently looks like landfill.

Tinpot.

And yet they are still going full speed ahead with the build, the pile holes have all been drilled. No regard for due process or for the local community, sadly. 

[petehinton]

Hhahaahahahahahahah

[bert tann]

1 hour ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

On 2nd look at the steps, they appear to have struck coal during the foundations work.

Could be the only rich seam of form they will find this year.

You are quite correct.

The plateau on which the Memorial Ground pitch sits was formed through infilling the existing land with waste material from the South Wales coal pits. Whether this provides a suitable base to carry the weight of a steel grandstand with 3500 people perched inside must be open to question.

 

 

[petehinton]

So am I right in thinking, they won’t be allowed to accommodate or sell tickets for away fans? Is that even allowed?

[Wedontplayinblue]

7 minutes ago, petehinton said:

So am I right in thinking, they won’t be allowed to accommodate or sell tickets for away fans? Is that even allowed?

They will be given the standing terrace on the side 

[Kid in the Riot]

24 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said:

he blamed the ground works for a lot of the problems and the big hold up. Never got the chance to ask about planning issues 

No, the big hold up is because not one of the dopey ***** that works at that club thought "I wonder if a stand with a capacity of over 3,000 people needs planning permission?"

If you live in Bradley Stoke then the chances are you need planning permission for a conservatory. Yet not one ******** that works at a supposedly professional football club, thought an entire new stand might need permission.

Tinpot.

[Open End Numb Legs]

16 minutes ago, bert tann said:

You are quite correct.

The plateau on which the Memorial Ground pitch sits was formed through infilling the existing land with waste material from the South Wales coal pits. Whether this provides a suitable base to carry the weight of a steel grandstand with 3500 people perched inside must be open to question.

 

 

Thanks for the info, makes you wonder what that does for the groundwater. Must have taken a while for it all to compact.

I have never been there but as soon as the old stand was removed it was clear it was on a perch over the nearby houses which made any height increase a factor in planning.

I have said in this thread for a while they should develop the Mem but your inside info suggests there could be some expensive foundations required. The infill you mention makes the piling make sense.

[chinapig]

I'm sure that if Joey and his scouse posse pay a friendly visit to the planning office they would be able to "persuade" them to give permission. We wouldn't want anybody to have a nasty accident after all.

[glynriley]

5 minutes ago, chinapig said:

I'm sure that if Joey and his scouse posse pay a friendly visit to the planning office they would be able to "persuade" them to give permission. We wouldn't want anybody to have a nasty accident after all.

[slartibartfast]

8 minutes ago, chinapig said:

I'm sure that if Joey and his scouse posse pay a friendly visit to the planning office they would be able to "persuade" them to give permission. We wouldn't want anybody to have a nasty accident after all.

Cue the coda to Layla !

[myol'man]

9 minutes ago, chinapig said:

I'm sure that if Joey and his scouse posse pay a friendly visit to the planning office they would be able to "persuade" them to give permission. We wouldn't want anybody to have a nasty accident after all.

BCC planing officer will be getting a visit from da management 

[BetterRedthanBlue]

I see that one of the councillors has raised an issue with the contractors and work being carried out regardless despite no planning permission.

It's the perfect thing to do antagonise the people you are trying to convince to grant you planning permission.

[petehinton]

https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/files/67F19133207DD9BBEEABD28C4EA0205E/pdf/23_01441_F-COUNCILLOR_EMMA_EDWARDS-3503332.pdf

[BCFC11]

36 minutes ago, Wedontplayinblue said:

They will be given the standing terrace on the side 

They have to offer a certain amount of seating to away fans. I believe they’ve yet to send Barnsley any info regarding tickets with the game just 2 weeks away. That club is the definition of tinpot.

[Rudolf Hucker]

From the BBC article:

“Bristol Rovers is replacing its South Stand at the Memorial Stadium in North Bristol with new under cover seats.”

So not really a stand then? 

[Gazred]

If any young Gasheads are asking for a BMX track for Xmas, they are quids in.

[Port Said Red]

25 minutes ago, BetterRedthanBlue said:

I see that one of the councillors has raised an issue with the contractors and work being carried out regardless despite no planning permission.

It's the perfect thing to do antagonise the people you are trying to convince to grant you planning permission.

 

20 minutes ago, petehinton said:

https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/files/67F19133207DD9BBEEABD28C4EA0205E/pdf/23_01441_F-COUNCILLOR_EMMA_EDWARDS-3503332.pdf

Was that the document Pete? If so, it's been removed apparently.

[slartibartfast]

10 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

 

Was that the document Pete? If so, it's been redacted apparently.

Fixed that (seems to be the modern word for this sort of shenanigans )