Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[City Rocker]

51 minutes ago, BS3 Ark at Ee said:

They’ve not even got a ‘Shed man’....how Tinpot!

 

25 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Allotment Alan is saving to buy a step ladder.

Well you say that, but they've got tracksuit bloke. Admittedly he lacks the style and charisma of our own shed man. Or a shed, for that matter. 

 

[Red-Robbo]

1 minute ago, City Rocker said:

 

Well you say that, but they've got tracksuit bloke. Admittedly he lacks the style and charisma of our own shed man. Or a shed, for that matter. 

 

 

Sensibly looking away from the pitch...

[Open End Numb Legs]

13 minutes ago, City Rocker said:

 

Well you say that, but they've got tracksuit bloke. Admittedly he lacks the style and charisma of our own shed man. Or a shed, for that matter. 

 

Track suit man is actually wondering who has built an enormous clay chiminea where there should be a new stand. Did they get planning permission for that?

Edited July 29, 2023 by Open End Numb Legs

[BS3City]

19 minutes ago, City Rocker said:

 

Well you say that, but they've got tracksuit bloke. Admittedly he lacks the style and charisma of our own shed man. Or a shed, for that matter. 

 

Is he locked out?

[Ronnie Sinclair]

20 minutes ago, City Rocker said:

 

Well you say that, but they've got tracksuit bloke. Admittedly he lacks the style and charisma of our own shed man. Or a shed, for that matter. 

 

It’s not Jimmy Savile is it?

[Alan Dicks]

Hope they’re not killing the newts

[42nite]

 

I think he's found Row M.

 

[pongo88]

3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

That first post is absolutely delusional. 

Determined in "a maximum of 13 weeks" is utter nonsense. It's very well known that BCC are taking a minimum of 6 months to determine most applications at the moment. 

Their "agent" should have known this. As for the initial submission in April, one quick look and I can say with confidence that it was a sub-standard effort, which absolutely did NOT require anything close to the amount of information required. Hence, BCC are now requesting a host of additional documents. 

A few years ago I built a small raised deck (about 5 feet high)  at the back of my house and I had to supply more detailed information than the original Rovers submission to obtain planning permission. I even had a site visit from the council before I could start 

[italian dave]

7 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

A few years ago I built a small raised deck (about 5 feet high)  at the back of my house and I had to supply more detailed information than the original Rovers submission to obtain planning permission. I even had a site visit from the council before I could start 

I think they feel that “We’re Bristol Rovers. We want to build a stand” should suffice. 

[Pedrowe]

I noticed that someone on Gas Chat was questioning how Luton managed to construct their stand this summer. The answer lies in their professionalism as a club compared to their tinpot rag tag excuse of a club. Luton actually applied for planning permission for the new stand c12 months ago, anticipating the need for upgrades in case they secured promotion. 

Edited July 29, 2023 by Pedrowe

[wendyredredrobin]

So what happened to the best stadium in Bristol at the Fruit Market then?  Did it turn out to be a lemon after all?

I guess they couldn't steal the land or get it for free which probably ruined that plan.

[Eddie Hitler]

1 minute ago, wendyredredrobin said:

So what happened to the best stadium in Bristol at the Fruit Market then?  Did it turn out to be a lemon after all?

I guess they couldn't steal the land or get it for free which probably ruined that plan.

 

They're entirely dependent on the company carrying out the wider development.

It is very possible that the FM is redeveloped without a football ground.

[dilligaf]

So they are selling season tickets for a stand that they know will not be ready for the upcoming season. At what point does this become fraud? 

[fgrsimon]

7 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Its likely that they thought they could submit a planning application themselves, hence the comical "plans" submitted back in April. I would think an agent was hired late in the day once BCC asked for some proper documentation.

I'm pretty sure that a part of the problem is that things like this are done very differently in the Middle East and a few backhanders or 'deals' help 'smoothe through' the processes there.

It seems there's a culture at Bristol Rovers that nobody challenges things at all - from JBs communications, to signing criminals, to the owner saying the new stand can be designed and built in a couple of months.

Something similar to what was happening here during the LJ/MA on the playing side. Happily we got everything off the pitch pretty much spot-on since Ashton Vale was refused.

 

 

[Scrumpty]

4 hours ago, City Rocker said:

 

Well you say that, but they've got tracksuit bloke. Admittedly he lacks the style and charisma of our own shed man. Or a shed, for that matter. 

 

You’re not looking close enough. I’ve zoomed in on the chimneys in the foreground. They have two shed men!

[Ska Junkie]

1 hour ago, wendyredredrobin said:

So what happened to the best stadium in Bristol 

Still resplendent in BS3 Wendy.

[petehinton]

I see the best supported club in the world mustered up a huge attendance of 2,100 for a home friendly. Just a mere 200 more than we took to a 4 hour away friendly trip on the same day

[Lanterne Rouge]

4 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I see the best supported club in the world mustered up a huge attendance of 2,100 for a home friendly. Just a mere 200 more than we took to a 4 hour away friendly trip on the same day

They would have had a lot more but they would have had nowhere to sit so stayed away.

[pongo88]

33 minutes ago, Scrumpty said:

You’re not looking close enough. I’ve zoomed in on the chimneys in the foreground. They have two shed men!

Flobbalob

[BCFC11]

Wow. Just wow! Anyone remember the Gash support in our World Cup bid? No thought not. Losers.

 

 

[redsquirrel]

getting in mrs rusty coilstuck to draw up the plans to keep her hand in saved them £1000's, unfortunately they overlooked the small detail that she used to work at the family planning clinic

[Monkeh]

3 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Wow. Just wow! Anyone remember the Gash support in our World Cup bid? No thought not. Losers.

 

Yea why don't our biggest rivals support our planning case after we went out of our to obstruct their new ground

[BS3City]

Never forget, never miss an opportunity.

**** 'em...

[Bristol Rob]

It is baffling how a club who can take 40,000 to Wembley and see thousands locked out somehow can't manage to submit coherent letters of support.

They're busy moaning that 'the objections' have all been written by the pen of City fans, but at no point have any of them attempted to coordinate a positive response to the application, instead they moan that the Green Party have put the mockers on it, when in actuality their planning application has yet to be considered.

The gift.

[Open End Numb Legs]

1 hour ago, Scrumpty said:

You’re not looking close enough. I’ve zoomed in on the chimneys in the foreground. They have two shed men!

I have just checked, The Flower Pot Men (pictured) dates back to 1952/1953!!

There won't be many that remember that. It must have been repeated through the 60s as I can just recall it as a very young lad.

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, BCFC11 said:

Wow. Just wow! Anyone remember the Gash support in our World Cup bid? No thought not. Losers.

 

**** O F F

[SirColinOfMansfield]

They are in the process of updating their signs before the start of the new season as the place is still very much a building site ...

... from this ...

... to this ...

[Alan Dicks]

1 hour ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

I have just checked, The Flower Pot Men (pictured) dates back to 1952/1953!!

There won't be many that remember that. It must have been repeated through the 60s as I can just recall it as a very young lad.

I remember Bill and Ben

[italian dave]

24 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said:

I remember Bill and Ben

Me too…..still remember the song that introduced it! 

And......."little weed" 

Edited July 29, 2023 by italian dave

[bert tann]

We’ve got Ben

Where is Bill ?

Where is Bill ?  Where is Bill ?

He’s at Eastville
 

 

[Swede]

8 hours ago, City Rocker said:

 

Well you say that, but they've got tracksuit bloke. Admittedly he lacks the style and charisma of our own shed man. Or a shed, for that matter. 

 

What a dump. I'm glad I don't live there looking at that view. I'd have to keep the curtains pulled. I'd rather look at the Berlin Wall.

[Rudolf Hucker]

1 hour ago, italian dave said:

Me too…..still remember the song that introduced it! 

And......."little weed" 

“… and I think the little house knew all about it too - don’t you?”

[WarksRobin]

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

52 minutes ago, WarksRobin said:

Legend? Bellend more like.

[Gazred]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-rovers-start-work-new-8637688

The locals are not happy...

“They did host a consultation but they gave less than 24 hours notice, and at 4pm so people were working or doing the school pick-up. Nobody from the project was actually present. It’s going to be huge in comparison to what was there previously, blocking out light and overlooking gardens. They’re banking on the fact the council is unlikely to pull it down.”

Edited July 30, 2023 by Gazred

[chinapig]

18 minutes ago, Gazred said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-rovers-start-work-new-8637688

The locals are not happy...

“They did host a consultation but they gave less than 24 hours notice, and at 4pm so people were working or doing the school pick-up. Nobody from the project was actually present. It’s going to be huge in comparison to what was there previously, blocking out light and overlooking gardens. They’re banking on the fact the council is unlikely to pull it down.”

The most significant words in that piece: Rovers declined to comment.

They know they don't have a leg to stand on. Or indeed a stand to sit in.

[Crackers Corner]

apparently the new stand will potentially impact light to some houses, this will be a real issue if any of the residents affected have lived there for more than 20 years as they can claim right to light which should trump rovers plans.

Rights of light – what's the story -Trowers & Hamlins 

[Port Said Red]

4 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said:

apparently the new stand will potentially impact light to some houses, this will be a real issue if any of the residents affected have lived there for more than 20 years as they can claim right to light which should trump rovers plans.

Rights of light – what's the story -Trowers & Hamlins 

That's an old article and the law was changed slightly recently. Now it will depend on whether the residents can prove that any previous construction gave them enough light and that the new construction will reduce it by 50% or more.

"Generally, any property having uninterrupted enjoyment of light for more than 20 years acquires rights to light. But that can be defeated if, before the expiry of 20 years, the light is obstructed for one year continuously.23 Mar 2023"

[Crackers Corner]

7 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

That's an old article and the law was changed slightly recently. Now it will depend on whether the residents can prove that any previous construction gave them enough light and that the new construction will reduce it by 50% or more.

"Generally, any property having uninterrupted enjoyment of light for more than 20 years acquires rights to light. But that can be defeated if, before the expiry of 20 years, the light is obstructed for one year continuously.23 Mar 2023"

so the million dollar question is what was there before and the impact of the new stand.

[Bristol Rob]

4 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said:

so the million dollar question is what was there before and the impact of the new stand.

A temporary stand. That was removed and send to the All England Club every summer.

Not sure if that works for or against the right to light argument.

Suppose they could argue that because it was a temporary structure which I presume didn't require planning permission that technically there was nothing there to block light.

[WarksRobin]

There is no right to light

There is however a legal requirement to consult meaningfully and to carry out an assessment of the impact of proposed development. There are also legal requirements for managing the impact of construction work, environmental damage and health and safety on site.

From the sounds of it, they have broken the law and may be liable to an unlimited fine.

[Gazred]

Gurt Teds in the comments section 

 

[Open End Numb Legs]

There are some very poor attempts to justify what has happened in the comments section of that article.

One tries to scare off the locals by suggesting that if Rovers don't get their way they will leave the Mem and what would be built instead would be worse than a stand. As if residential property would be bigger than a football stand.

[italian dave]

And if they have started or do start building it without consent, I’d imagine that will royally piss of the council. 

[GrahamC]

As someone who would happily never play them again it did occur to me that it would be hilarious if they had drawn us at home in the cup next week.

Options? Ask to switch the game to a ground that’s fit for purpose or otherwise a complete logistical nightmare, as presumably we would have been guaranteed a certain percentage of space in their ramshackle, 3 sided ground.

Sort of wish it had happened now.

[slartibartfast]

51 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

There are some very poor attempts to justify what has happened in the comments section of that article.

One tries to scare off the locals by suggesting that if Rovers don't get their way they will leave the Mem and what would be built instead would be worse than a stand. As if residential property would be bigger than a football stand.

How could it be worse ?  I'd prefer a slaughter house built there ,than them !  

[slartibartfast]

11 hours ago, Alan Dicks said:

I remember Bill and Ben

Bill and Ben , Bill and Ben , Rovers wing men...........as we used to sing !

[Andy082005]

I’m really out of the loop on the latest shenanigans north of Bristol 

so - without trawling through all the posts , are we saying they started a development without the appropriate planning permission? And now even though they have sold tickets for this stand - it won’t be ready in time for the start of the season? 
 

 

[cider hoss rules]

21 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

I’m really out of the loop on the latest shenanigans north of Bristol 

so - without trawling through all the posts , are we saying they started a development without the appropriate planning permission? And now even though they have sold tickets for this stand - it won’t be ready in time for the start of the season? 
 

 

In short - yes

In more detail - yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

[Midlands Robin]

Without the South and South East tents and no replacement yet to be constructed I think they must have dipped under the minimum ground requirements. 

The mandate for any club entering the league is after 3 years (2018 for them) the ground must have a minimum capacity of 5000 with a minimum seated capacity of 2000.

The west and east stands have 750 and 1100 respectively and I think they took down those bus shelter tents they built over the terracing. 

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

28 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

so - without trawling through all the posts , are we saying they started a development without the appropriate planning permission? And now even though they have sold tickets for this stand - it won’t be ready in time for the start of the season? 

That appears to be the case….and it’s all our fault, definitely not Rovers fault but ours.

 …and the Greens

 …and Wycombe

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

17 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

The mandate for any club entering the league is after 3 years (2018 for them)

Still makes me laugh!

[redsquirrel]

i would suggest they play behind closed doors until they have adequate facilities but they havent got any doors have they?

[italian dave]

44 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

I’m really out of the loop on the latest shenanigans north of Bristol 

so - without trawling through all the posts , are we saying they started a development without the appropriate planning permission? And now even though they have sold tickets for this stand - it won’t be ready in time for the start of the season? 
 

 

In one!

And not forgetting the crucial fact that everyone else is to blame for the resultant mess! 

[southside]

1 hour ago, slartibartfast said:

Bill and Ben , Bill and Ben , Rovers wing men...........as we used to sing !

We did

[elhombrecito]

I do find the difference between our two sets of fans to be quite fascinating. The smallest thing happens at City and you'll get people on here claiming that the club are an absolute shambles and that somebody needs to be held accountable.

However, up north, the 15ers have managed to sell season tickets for a stand that doesn't exist, and if it ever will exist, will not be ready for several months at best, but there's barely any criticism of the club at all.

Brainwashing is the word that springs to mind. Or maybe Stockholm Syndrome is more accurate... 

[southside]

10 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

i would suggest they play behind closed doors until they have adequate facilities but they havent got any doors have they?

Behind closed tent flaps

[redsquirrel]

1 minute ago, southside said:

Behind closed tent flaps

and used covid jab queue screens

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

13 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

i would suggest they play behind closed doors until they have adequate facilities but they havent got any doors have they?

More wheels then. 

[Homer Simpson]

2 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

More wheels then. 

I think the wheels have well and truly come off.

[RedRaw]

7 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

 

Brainwashing is the word that springs to mind. Or maybe Stockholm Syndrome is more accurate... 

or stockhausen syndrome….. i.e. pissed as newts

Edited July 30, 2023 by RedRaw

[BS3City]

13 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

or stockhausen syndrome….. i.e. pissed as newts

Protected newts...

[Leveller]

20 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

I do find the difference between our two sets of fans to be quite fascinating. The smallest thing happens at City and you'll get people on here claiming that the club are an absolute shambles and that somebody needs to be held accountable.

However, up north, the 15ers have managed to sell season tickets for a stand that doesn't exist, and if it ever will exist, will not be ready for several months at best, but there's barely any criticism of the club at all.

Brainwashing is the word that springs to mind. Or maybe Stockholm Syndrome is more accurate... 

I think that’s unfair. Plenty of people on Gaschat are being critical. I’m one of them.

[Bristol Rob]

23 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

I do find the difference between our two sets of fans to be quite fascinating. The smallest thing happens at City and you'll get people on here claiming that the club are an absolute shambles and that somebody needs to be held accountable.

However, up north, the 15ers have managed to sell season tickets for a stand that doesn't exist, and if it ever will exist, will not be ready for several months at best, but there's barely any criticism of the club at all.

Brainwashing is the word that springs to mind. Or maybe Stockholm Syndrome is more accurate... 

You are overlooking their inability to listen to criticism. Make a noise over there and they get called a Ted and told to go to Trashton.

Their fans hold them back as much as their leadership does.

[Unan]

4 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

You are overlooking their inability to listen to criticism. Make a noise over there and they get called a Ted and told to go to Trashton.

Their fans hold them back as much as their leadership does.

I was reading their stadium thread, a poster actually said that the other Gas forum was an echo chamber, any different views were shut down and he was grateful for the varied opinions and debate on GasChat. I haven’t stopped laughing yet.

[dilligaf]

28 minutes ago, Homer Simpson said:

I think the wheels have well and truly come off.

The wheels were stolen by them lot years ago 

[Bristol Rob]

14 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

I was reading their stadium thread, a poster actually said that the other Gas forum was an echo chamber, any different views were shut down and he was grateful for the varied opinions and debate on GasChat. I haven’t stopped laughing yet.

One of my favourites from some time back was one of their Moderators having a Benny because someone had upset someone else and the message was still up.

The Mod responded that they don't have the time to read every post.

Which is amazing, because they only get about 10 posts a day!

[Open End Numb Legs]

1 hour ago, Midlands Robin said:

Without the South and South East tents and no replacement yet to be constructed I think they must have dipped under the minimum ground requirements. 

The mandate for any club entering the league is after 3 years (2018 for them) the ground must have a minimum capacity of 5000 with a minimum seated capacity of 2000.

The west and east stands have 750 and 1100 respectively and I think they took down those bus shelter tents they built over the terracing. 

The solution then is to relegate them from the EFL to non league? 

[redsquirrel]

if you were a contractor, given their past history of non payment, i.e.fence gate, would anyone undertake any contract without payment up front??

[Gert Mare]

There are so many gifts in this photo that I just don’t know where to begin?
 

(EDIT: Not knocking the charity by the way….just an unfortunate choice of character)

They dig more holes for their reputation than they do for a stand.

Absolutely priceless. Complete and utter laughing stock tinpot shambles.

Edited July 30, 2023 by Gert Mare