Lanterne Rouge Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/construction-continues-memorial-stadium-despite-no-planning-permission/ So, despite BCC telling them to stop, they are still carrying on with the build. The Council`s statement a week or two back could not have been clearer - stop work until we tell you it can proceed. That`s really going to endear them to the the planning officers. They should turn it down as a matter of principle now - pour encourager les autres. But of course, `We`re Bristol R*overs, we do what we want`. I really hope it all does go tits up for them, it will be only what they deserve for trying to ride roughshod over the rules. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: So, despite BCC telling them to stop, they are still carrying on with the build. The Council`s statement a week or two back could not have been clearer - stop work until we tell you it can proceed. That`s really going to endear them to the the planning officers. They should turn it down as a matter of principle now - pour encourager les autres. But of course, `We`re Bristol R*overs, we do what we want`. I really hope it all does go tits up for them, it will be only what they deserve for trying to ride roughshod over the rules. I'll guess that they have lumped a bundle at some planning professionals who have reviewed things and in their view, it's worth proceeding with. I don't see them restarting the works without some assurance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I'll guess that they have lumped a bundle at some planning professionals who have reviewed things and in their view, it's worth proceeding with. I don't see them restarting the works without some assurance. You`re probably right but they are so arrogant that I think Wally genuinely thinks the rules don`t apply to them. They are the Boris Johnson of the EFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I'll guess that they have lumped a bundle at some planning professionals who have reviewed things and in their view, it's worth proceeding with. I don't see them restarting the works without some assurance. And yet the fact that the report linked by @Bristol Robabove says they still haven't submitted all the required paperwork might suggest otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, chinapig said: And yet the fact that the report linked by @Bristol Robabove says they still haven't submitted all the required paperwork might suggest otherwise. I dunno! Not something I work in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Bit of a cryptic one from a Post reporter... He's not yet expanded on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I'll guess that they have lumped a bundle at some planning professionals who have reviewed things and in their view, it's worth proceeding with. I don't see them restarting the works without some assurance. “Ahh, go on. I’d just, gert like, get on wiv it. Thees’ll be alright, I reckons”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Bit of a cryptic one from a Post reporter... He's not yet expanded on it. Well @Tristan Cork what part is incorrect? Come on, don’t hold out on us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Bit of a cryptic one from a Post reporter... He's not yet expanded on it. Has work stopped because of the serving of an enforcement notice ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilC Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 45 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I'll guess that they have lumped a bundle at some planning professionals who have reviewed things and in their view, it's worth proceeding with. I don't see them restarting the works without some assurance. You are forgetting who we are dealing with here Rob.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 They could be in a bit of trouble over this, don't seem to be doing themselves any favours with the council or the residents...anyway if any retired stadium builders are looking to keep their hand in..just roll up at The Mem tomorrow at 7.30 and you are gaureenteed a shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Bit of a cryptic one from a Post reporter... He's not yet expanded on it. He did reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Maybe he’s referring to the fact the structure being shown is not the south stand behind the goal but the bus stop on the side….still, they don’t have planning for that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreedyHarry Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Maybe he is referring to work stopping……well it is getting dark. Edited August 22, 2023 by GreedyHarry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 They are discussing what name to give to their new stand. To be fair, I did like this one. The ‘Print that, you Green Bastards’ Stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 13 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: So, despite BCC telling them to stop, they are still carrying on with the build. The Council`s statement a week or two back could not have been clearer - stop work until we tell you it can proceed. That`s really going to endear them to the the planning officers. They should turn it down as a matter of principle now - pour encourager les autres. But of course, `We`re Bristol R*overs, we do what we want`. I really hope it all does go tits up for them, it will be only what they deserve for trying to ride roughshod over the rules. Tempting as that would probably be to a planning officer, I don’t think it will get refused any more so now than it was ever going to be. The reality is that they’ll get consent. However, it’s far more likely that the planners require some minor amendments to the proposals, height, size, aspect, things like that. Which would be more than little awkward if the thing’s already built. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: So, despite BCC telling them to stop, they are still carrying on with the build. The Council`s statement a week or two back could not have been clearer - stop work until we tell you it can proceed. That`s really going to endear them to the the planning officers. They should turn it down as a matter of principle now - pour encourager les autres. But of course, `We`re Bristol R*overs, we do what we want`. I really hope it all does go tits up for them, it will be only what they deserve for trying to ride roughshod over the rules. Yeah, **** it. Let's just go for it because we've sold seat tickets. Get it done and BCC can take us to court if they can be bothered. Up Da Gaz innit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 22/08/2023 at 12:42, JBFC II said: So they've started building a stand. Just imagine if they were building a stand without any planning permission to do so, just imagine... It would appear that this "state of the art" design is known to the blue few. Herewith, the Rovers' contribution to Twerton (on the left in a similar position to the current Meccano site at Horefield!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, adamski said: It would appear that this "state of the art" design is known to the blue few. Herewith, the Rovers' contribution to Twerton (on the left in a similar position to the current Meccano site at Horefield!). The Stadium of (utter) Shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Meanwhile on gas chat - Just how few season tickets did they sell for their "Atyeo sized stand" if they can fit them in on the side section??? 2 hours ago yattongas, peterhooper57, and 4 more like this Quote Post by wertongas on 2 hours ago Great news that the stand is finally going up. Club are probably aiming to get the southwest section completed first so that they can seat all the season ticket holders that have to be moved to other parts of the ground. Everbody, Councillors and staff at BCC have supported the application except the Greens, so it is very likely the application is now going to go through so the club might as well get on and start the work. Greens and nymbies futile effort to delay the application is just that, I have dealt with thousands of consultations on the environmental aspect of applications and comments made by the Greens and nymbies are spurious, petty and in some cases untrue. Some still think that the club should hold back on the construction because planning laws may have been broken, but the planning department have broken every statutory law on the timeline of the application. Hopefully Edwards will see sense and withdraw her requst for the application to go to committee and we can enjoy the first major stand to be built at a Rovers ground by the club in most of our lifetimes sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 They clearly just do not get that regardless what the greens may or may have done, the reason for the complete fudge up is due to the club completely disregarding the due legal planning process in producing the bare minimum documentation for such a development and then expecting it to fly through planning without any scrutiny. The fact they appear to have also commenced some form of construction is nothing short of contempt of the whole planning system. If BCC let this fly, I would imagine there could be a case for a judicial review 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, adamski said: Meanwhile on gas chat - Just how few season tickets did they sell for their "Atyeo sized stand" if they can fit them in on the side section??? 2 hours ago yattongas, peterhooper57, and 4 more like this Quote Post by wertongas on 2 hours ago Great news that the stand is finally going up. Club are probably aiming to get the southwest section completed first so that they can seat all the season ticket holders that have to be moved to other parts of the ground. Everbody, Councillors and staff at BCC have supported the application except the Greens, so it is very likely the application is now going to go through so the club might as well get on and start the work. Greens and nymbies futile effort to delay the application is just that, I have dealt with thousands of consultations on the environmental aspect of applications and comments made by the Greens and nymbies are spurious, petty and in some cases untrue. Some still think that the club should hold back on the construction because planning laws may have been broken, but the planning department have broken every statutory law on the timeline of the application. Hopefully Edwards will see sense and withdraw her requst for the application to go to committee and we can enjoy the first major stand to be built at a Rovers ground by the club in most of our lifetimes sooner than later. I know wertongas is trying to sound knowledgeable and sophisticated but it's not 'nymbies' it's nimby (not in my back yard). 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, adamski said: Greens and nymbies futile effort to delay the application is just that, I have dealt with thousands of consultations on the environmental aspect of applications and comments made by the Greens and nymbies are spurious, petty and in some cases untrue. Oxfordreference.com appropriately defines NIMBY as an acronym, “the initial letters of the words ‘not in my back yard,’ signifying resistance to proposals to establish an unsightly or distasteful industry or development, such as a halfway house for recovering drug addicts or a dump site, in the neighbourhood.” Wertongas, who has dealt with “thousands of consultations” no doubt believes his version NYMBIES to be an acronym for ‘Not Yet My Babber I’m Eating See’. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexukhc Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 42 minutes ago, petehinton said: Hairs stand on his bellend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bert tann Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RedRaw said: They clearly just do not get that regardless what the greens may or may have done, the reason for the complete fudge up is due to the club completely disregarding the due legal planning process in producing the bare minimum documentation for such a development and then expecting it to fly through planning without any scrutiny. The fact they appear to have also commenced some form of construction is nothing short of contempt of the whole planning system. If BCC let this fly, I would imagine there could be a case for a judicial review A few weeks ago I jokingly posted about ARRRSE (Alton Road Residents Resisting Stadium Enlargement) just for a bit of fun. But it's actually now come to pass that there is a group of articulate and motivated local residents which is determined to make sure the Council follow the planning regulations to the letter of the law. These people are mainly non-political and not connected to the Green Party so Rovers trying to shove all the blame in that direction is another howler which will more than likely backfire. Edited August 23, 2023 by bert tann 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, bert tann said: A few weeks ago I jokingly posted about ARRRSE (Alton Road Residents Resisting Stadium Enlargement) just for a bit of fun. But it's actually now come to pass that there is a group of articulate and motivated local residents which is determined to make sure the Council follow the planning regulations to the letter of the law. These people are mainly non-political and not connected to the Green Party so Rovers trying to shove all the blame in that direction is another howler which will more than likely backfire. I would imagine that the vast majority of residents are not Greens round them parts. More likely liberals(with a small l), lawyers, doctors, tech types etc... those who can write without lined paper, work out acronyms, add up to 12 in their own head, read a letter with more than 8 lines etc.... The sort of folk that don't hang around the blue few unless it's for business purposes - legal aid, clap clinic, personal device investigation, interbreeding genetic research etc... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, adamski said: Meanwhile on gas chat - Just how few season tickets did they sell for their "Atyeo sized stand" if they can fit them in on the side section??? 2 hours ago yattongas, peterhooper57, and 4 more like this Quote Post by wertongas on 2 hours ago Great news that the stand is finally going up. Club are probably aiming to get the southwest section completed first so that they can seat all the season ticket holders that have to be moved to other parts of the ground. Everbody, Councillors and staff at BCC have supported the application except the Greens, so it is very likely the application is now going to go through so the club might as well get on and start the work. Greens and nymbies futile effort to delay the application is just that, I have dealt with thousands of consultations on the environmental aspect of applications and comments made by the Greens and nymbies are spurious, petty and in some cases untrue. Some still think that the club should hold back on the construction because planning laws may have been broken, but the planning department have broken every statutory law on the timeline of the application. Hopefully Edwards will see sense and withdraw her requst for the application to go to committee and we can enjoy the first major stand to be built at a Rovers ground by the club in most of our lifetimes sooner than later. “Major stand”. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Gert Mare said: Yeah, **** it. Let's just go for it because we've sold seat tickets. Get it done and BCC can take us to court if they can be bothered. Up Da Gaz innit! I’m doubtful it would ever get as far as BCC taking them to court. I don’t know the rules in detail, but I’d be amazed if there was any possibility at all of them getting a safety certificate for a stand that doesn’t have planning consent (and thereby won’t have satisfied building regs). And without a safety certificate they can’t use it anyway. Or if they did they would be foolish beyond belief. And didn’t we have to run 2 or 3 games as ‘trials’ before we got the safety certificates on our new stands? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Not going before committee until 18th October 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, petehinton said: This is a series that can run and run… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, TomF said: Oh so now Tristan says they are building it. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-rovers-start-new-south-8694139 Bristol Live doing what it does best. Bristol Live understands what it is doing, because Bristol Live understands that they employ only the best. End of the day, Bristol Live understands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Is that right that they actually started building this thing before they have planning permission??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 23, 2023 Admin Share Posted August 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, milo1111 said: Is that right that they actually started building this thing before they have planning permission??? It's not illegal to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, milo1111 said: Is that right that they actually started building this thing before they have planning permission??? Yep. Great isn`t it? The long winter evenings are just going to fly by this year with this kind of entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, phantom said: It's not illegal to do so It's not but it will be expensive for them if Planning Permission is rejected............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: It's not but it will be expensive for them if Planning Permission is rejected............ Fingers, toes, eyes and knob crossed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayes86 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 They have to be the only team in the country that has a South-West stand and I find it absolutely hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGeorge Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, alexukhc said: and knob crossed That's some achievement, well played, hope A&E are understanding 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, StGeorge said: That's some achievement, well played, hope A&E are understanding Just don’t make me laugh I can’t piss myself or disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3City Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, StGeorge said: That's some achievement, well played, hope A&E are understanding Agreed, I was impressed by that! How does one cross one's knob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, BS3City said: Agreed, I was impressed by that! How does one cross one's knob? Haven't you seen McVities easter special, the hot cross hob knob? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, italian dave said: Haven't you seen McVities easter special, the hot cross hob knob? At risk of derailing this important thread, am I alone if having a preference for the non-seasonal toasted Tea Cake as a far more enjoyable alternative to the bun that is hot or crossed? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, phantom said: It's not illegal to do so It’s not but it’s stupid and a big gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGeorge Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Just now, milo1111 said: It’s not but it’s stupid and a big gamble Crossing your knob? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, BS3City said: Agreed, I was impressed by that! How does one cross one's knob? I’d let you into a secret but it’s too long and you’ll never get it anyway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, BS3City said: Agreed, I was impressed by that! How does one cross one's knob? Is folding it in half ok? Asking for a friend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, milo1111 said: Is that right that they actually started building this thing before they have planning permission??? Yep & I’ll bet very good money they have been tipped off by BCC that permission will sail through. Bristol Labour group are very noticeably & vocally behind them (remarkably mute though during the Ashton Vale saga, weren’t they?) & have effectively portrayed the Greens as anti development to the point where they are being forced to come out & say they are in favour too but want the correct process followed. Must be amazing to live outside of South Bristol & have local politicians who give a **** about where you live, eh? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Yep & I’ll bet very good money they have been tipped off by BCC that permission will sail through. Bristol Labour group are very noticeably & vocally behind them (remarkably mute though during the Ashton Vale saga, weren’t they?) & have effectively portrayed the Greens as anti development to the point where they are being forced to come out & say they are in favour too but want the correct process followed. Must be amazing to live outside of South Bristol & have local politicians who give a **** about where you live, eh? They're playing a dodgy game as regards votes in the future. Why would they pander to a small enclave of fewers (clues in the name, comrades ) ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, milo1111 said: Is that right that they actually started building this thing before they have planning permission??? Thing, being correct term for it, jeez what an abortion ! Don't see what the fuss is about, looks more like a Dinky Toy garage . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I built better with my Meccano set back in the 70s ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Homer Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, GrahamC said: Yep & I’ll bet very good money they have been tipped off by BCC that permission will sail through. Bristol Labour group are very noticeably & vocally behind them (remarkably mute though during the Ashton Vale saga, weren’t they?) & have effectively portrayed the Greens as anti development to the point where they are being forced to come out & say they are in favour too but want the correct process followed. Must be amazing to live outside of South Bristol & have local politicians who give a **** about where you live, eh? You'd be surprised Graham at the number of cases that come across my desk where the LPA have indicated that permission is likely be granted in their pre-application advice, only for the proposal to be turned down by either the planning department of the committee. Edited August 24, 2023 by Red Homer 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 They won't get a safety cert unless it meets and is granted planning permission and building regs, The reason they are carrying is because they are tinpot and any delay will lead to increased costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 8 hours ago, GrahamC said: Yep & I’ll bet very good money they have been tipped off by BCC that permission will sail through. Bristol Labour group are very noticeably & vocally behind them (remarkably mute though during the Ashton Vale saga, weren’t they?) & have effectively portrayed the Greens as anti development to the point where they are being forced to come out & say they are in favour too but want the correct process followed. Must be amazing to live outside of South Bristol & have local politicians who give a **** about where you live, eh? I remember the BCC councillor who turned up to a meeting in a City shirt during a discussion on planning proposals for Rovers new stadium- don't ask me which one, I've lost count on that one- incredibly unprofessional but it had no bearing on the outcome whatsoever. I would imagine plenty of councillors support one or the other (glad that they do) , but the perception by some City fans that BCC is pro Rovers and by some Rovers fans that is pro City really simply isn't true. The same goes for the imagined bias of the Evening Post and Radio Bristol. I spend a bit of time in Glasgow where fans of Celtic and Rangers accuse organisations of bias toward one team or the other and fans of Partick and Queens Park accuse them of bias towrds the old firm. I suspect the same accusations get made in Sheffield, Liverpool, Stoke, Birmingham etc etc. Mind you, just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Miah Dennehy said: I remember the BCC councillor who turned up to a meeting in a City shirt during a discussion on planning proposals for Rovers new stadium- don't ask me which one, I've lost count on that one- incredibly unprofessional but it had no bearing on the outcome whatsoever. I would imagine plenty of councillors support one or the other (glad that they do) , but the perception by some City fans that BCC is pro Rovers and by some Rovers fans that is pro City really simply isn't true. The same goes for the imagined bias of the Evening Post and Radio Bristol. I spend a bit of time in Glasgow where fans of Celtic and Rangers accuse organisations of bias toward one team or the other and fans of Partick and Queens Park accuse them of bias towrds the old firm. I suspect the same accusations get made in Sheffield, Liverpool, Stoke, Birmingham etc etc. Mind you, just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you You believe what you like. I have no recollection of the City shirt incident at all but do recall a Councillor (now ex) who was a City season ticket holder for us excluding himself from the Ashton Vale debate. I also know of a Rovers supporter Councillor who didn’t do so when the decision was made to sponsor a stand at your place by Bristol Energy, a loss making organisation which truly defied belief. You think what you like, I know what I hear & I see. South Bristol is being incredibly poorly served by an administration whose focus is blatantly clearly elsewhere in the city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: They won't get a safety cert unless it meets and is granted planning permission and building regs, The reason they are carrying is because they are tinpot and any delay will lead to increased costs Not half as much as the increased costs of a consent that’s subject to amendments to the design of something that’s already built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Red Homer said: You'd be surprised Graham at the number of cases that come across my desk where the LPA have indicated that permission is likely be granted in their pre-application advice, only for the proposal to be turned down by either the planning department of the committee. On the face of it, this isn’t a particularly controversial application though, is it? Existing football ground replacing one stand with another that’s not hugely different. I’d imagine the South Stand at the Gate (never mind the Lansdown) was more of a change - and that was never really in doubt. The R###s have managed to make it controversial by their inept approach to the whole affair, and by so blatantly ignoring the processes that everyone has to go through for these things. But ultimately it will get approval, won’t it? Albeit (hopefully!) with some amendments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said: I remember the BCC councillor who turned up to a meeting in a City shirt during a discussion on planning proposals for Rovers new stadium- don't ask me which one, I've lost count on that one- incredibly unprofessional but it had no bearing on the outcome whatsoever. I would imagine plenty of councillors support one or the other (glad that they do) , but the perception by some City fans that BCC is pro Rovers and by some Rovers fans that is pro City really simply isn't true. The same goes for the imagined bias of the Evening Post and Radio Bristol. I spend a bit of time in Glasgow where fans of Celtic and Rangers accuse organisations of bias toward one team or the other and fans of Partick and Queens Park accuse them of bias towrds the old firm. I suspect the same accusations get made in Sheffield, Liverpool, Stoke, Birmingham etc etc. Mind you, just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you It's only pro rovers when decisions go against city, The council are pretty down the middle and have to apply the law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, BS13 Robin said: I built better with my Meccano set back in the 70s ffs Sure, but the Championship was not in existence back then so how could you have known it to be Championship ready? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said: I remember the BCC councillor who turned up to a meeting in a City shirt during a discussion on planning proposals for Rovers new stadium- don't ask me which one, I've lost count on that one- incredibly unprofessional but it had no bearing on the outcome whatsoever. I would imagine plenty of councillors support one or the other (glad that they do) , but the perception by some City fans that BCC is pro Rovers and by some Rovers fans that is pro City really simply isn't true. The same goes for the imagined bias of the Evening Post and Radio Bristol. I spend a bit of time in Glasgow where fans of Celtic and Rangers accuse organisations of bias toward one team or the other and fans of Partick and Queens Park accuse them of bias towrds the old firm. I suspect the same accusations get made in Sheffield, Liverpool, Stoke, Birmingham etc etc. Mind you, just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you IMO the BEP certainly used to have a pro-Rovers bias, which was especially noticeable when there were arrests for football related trouble: City arrests headlined but Rovers arrests quietly tucked away, but to be entirely fair I haven't noticed that for a few years now. Other than that I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Red Homer said: You'd be surprised Graham at the number of cases that come across my desk where the LPA have indicated that permission is likely be granted in their pre-application advice, only for the proposal to be turned down by either the planning department of the committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: IMO the BEP certainly used to have a pro-Rovers bias, which was especially noticeable when there were arrests for football related trouble: City arrests headlined but Rovers arrests quietly tucked away, but to be entirely fair I haven't noticed that for a few years now. Other than that I agree. Does anyone read the "Post" now to know what it's reporting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 4 hours ago, italian dave said: On the face of it, this isn’t a particularly controversial application though, is it? Existing football ground replacing one stand with another that’s not hugely different. I’d imagine the South Stand at the Gate (never mind the Lansdown) was more of a change - and that was never really in doubt. The R###s have managed to make it controversial by their inept approach to the whole affair, and by so blatantly ignoring the processes that everyone has to go through for these things. But ultimately it will get approval, won’t it? Albeit (hopefully!) with some amendments. Is this not setting a precedent to future applications in Bristol maybe not so big where by council application is in for build but told not too commence but hey fack council I’ll build anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, Topper 123 said: Is this not setting a precedent to future applications in Bristol maybe not so big where by council application is in for build but told not too commence but hey fack council I’ll build anyway ? I think it will, as others have said, royally piss off the planning officers and councillors. But ultimately I don't believe that the planners can do otherwise than consider the application on its merit. In other words, they can't refuse something that would otherwise get consent, just because it's already built. Not least because they'd only lose on appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Served a few Enforcement/Stop Notices in my early days. Assume that is still an option for the Council. Possible The Sags have some form of political assurance that won’t be happening as that Meccano Kit would be very fiddly to dismantle. All a bit nawty. As ever, fingers pointed at the planners, but anyone with half a brain could see their initial submission was totally inadequate…. and by the sound of things the Council are STILL waiting for information to be supplied material to the assessment of the proposals. The blame here lies - as on most occasions - with the Applicant together with the politicians for desperately under-resourcing Planning Departments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 5 hours ago, CiderJar said: Sure, but the Championship was not in existence back then so how could you have known it to be Championship ready? Because my Rovers supporting "mate"told me that in five years it would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 17 hours ago, slartibartfast said: They're playing a dodgy game as regards votes in the future. Why would they pander to a small enclave of fewers (clues in the name, comrades ) ? If anyone's votes in the next election are swayed by the approach taken by any party with this situation then I really just give up on humanity! 2 hours ago, Topper 123 said: Is this not setting a precedent to future applications in Bristol maybe not so big where by council application is in for build but told not too commence but hey fack council I’ll build anyway ? They do say it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) Are they still banging on about 'Atmosphere'? Beat this saggies, a quote from Graham Poll, ex FIFA referee..... ''Despite my refereeing experiences around the world, I cannot recall a greater contrast between players than at the final whistle. Bristol City, who had scored two late goals to qualify, were ecstatic, while all connected with Hartlepool were in despair. The noise within the stadium when the two home goals went in was incredible and compared favourably with a full Nou Camp for a Champions League quarter-final." Edited August 24, 2023 by Ska Junkie 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 13 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: IMO the BEP certainly used to have a pro-Rovers bias, which was especially noticeable when there were arrests for football related trouble: City arrests headlined but Rovers arrests quietly tucked away, but to be entirely fair I haven't noticed that for a few years now. Other than that I agree. Mike Norton, the editor until about 5 years ago, was a Gashead, I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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