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11 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

No facilty to cater for disabled away supporters at the tinpot dump - Wigan aint happy.

TBF some of the tinpot supporters are calling the club out about it.

Disgraceful imo.

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I've spoken to Bristol Rovers today, they are working hard to find a solution. Options are limited but they will try their best to cater for disabled and those who want seats. IF there is a way, they will let us know in the next 7 days. I will keep you informed as info comes in.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

No facilty to cater for disabled away supporters at the tinpot dump - Wigan aint happy.

TBF some of the tinpot supporters are calling the club out about it.

Disgraceful imo.

Wigan SLO;

I've spoken to Bristol Rovers today, they are working hard to find a solution. Options are limited but they will try their best to cater for disabled and those who want seats. IF there is a way, they will let us know in the next 7 days. I will keep you informed as info comes in.

 

All piss-taking aside, just for a brief moment, in 2023 how can ANY professional organisation, sporting or otherwise, expect to get away with the provision of NO facilities for disabled customers? It’s simply unconscionable, disgusting and completely unacceptable. They should receive the most stringent sanctions from the football and trading authorities.

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29 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

No facilty to cater for disabled away supporters at the tinpot dump - Wigan aint happy.

TBF some of the tinpot supporters are calling the club out about it.

Disgraceful imo.

Wigan SLO;

I've spoken to Bristol Rovers today, they are working hard to find a solution. Options are limited but they will try their best to cater for disabled and those who want seats. IF there is a way, they will let us know in the next 7 days. I will keep you informed as info comes in.

 

One of them suggests that they should blame the Green Party and tell them they need to remove their objection as it's impacting disabled supporters.

This is some different level of delusion.

What they should have done, was not remove the old stand until they had planning sorted for the new one. Not that the planning application has been heard yet, anyway.

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On 09/09/2023 at 17:19, Gert Mare said:

Yep. With no update / progression of the ‘fruition’ of the Fruitihad they just announce plans for a Meccano South Stand and start flogging tickets and the Sags just lap it all up, forgetting all about the Fruitihad and if it will EVER happen. They’re not even questioning what the actual F is going on?!

Then they get in some ageing pros and a controversial woman beater because he’s going cheap and then when the South Stand runs into planning problems they announce that they are after JCH (without any intention of actually seeing it through) to divert Sags from planning a Tote End Aggro assault on any Green Party Member who by default is now a Gurt Ted intent on preventing their progression at all costs.

They just can’t see it and they just refuse to believe it and yet the shit fest is happening almost daily. They are now creating 150 page threads where they almost believe it and then someone pipes up with how unfaithful they are and round and round in circles they go.

The dumb ####wits!

 

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Ummm….Yes….Could have been responding word for word to my post on here yesterday ?

Conspiracy theory eh? Jesus, how ******* thick are they? Deluded Sags!

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1 minute ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

All piss-taking aside, just for a brief moment, in 2023 how can ANY professional organisation, sporting or otherwise, expect to get away with the provision of NO facilities for disabled customers? It’s simply unconscionable, disgusting and completely unacceptable. They should receive the most stringent sanctions from the football and trading authorities.

I think there is some wiggle room, but as they don't have planning, it does look like they removed a poor, but compliant structure and have now discriminated against those with mobility challenges.

They need to find a solution for this, could be they try and switch their home games and hope that by the time the reverse fixture comes round they can host them, but then if they found themselves with 6 consecutive home games, the police would likely have objections. They either need to offer a space, or maybe move home supporters.

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17 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

But Wally has installed a rockery in its place now.

Is he planning on doing a Del Boy, adding a hose and "discovering" a long lost "natural" spring?

Pirates spring - sparking natural water straight from the Mem...

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6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

I think there is some wiggle room, but as they don't have planning, it does look like they removed a poor, but compliant structure and have now discriminated against those with mobility challenges.

They need to find a solution for this, could be they try and switch their home games and hope that by the time the reverse fixture comes round they can host them, but then if they found themselves with 6 consecutive home games, the police would likely have objections. They either need to offer a space, or maybe move home supporters.

ALL of their problems are self-inflicted. Nothing to do with the Green Party, contractors, steel manufacturers, local residents, the Council Planning Department yada, yada, yada. They are the only ones to blame. Until they recognise and accept this, they’ll never take the necessary steps to remove the causes of their incompetence, enabling them to move forward with certainty. It’s called professionalism. (Personally, I’ll be delighted if they carry on in their own sweet way).

Projects seldom run smoothly - there are always obstacles which will require mitigation. The old project management mantra “Perfect Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance” has been completely ignored by the 15ers to be replaced by “Ah, don’t worry about that mate, it’ll be fine”.

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39 minutes ago, Taz said:

Is he planning on doing a Del Boy, adding a hose and "discovering" a long lost "natural" spring?

Pirates spring - sparking natural water straight from the Mem...

Probably hoping his nice watch is a long lost masterpiece and can sell it for a few Tilsons.

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37 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

ALL of their problems are self-inflicted. Nothing to do with the Green Party, contractors, steel manufacturers, local residents, the Council Planning Department yada, yada, yada. They are the only ones to blame. Until they recognise and accept this, they’ll never take the necessary steps to remove the causes of their incompetence, enabling them to move forward with certainty. It’s called professionalism. (Personally, I’ll be delighted if they carry on in their own sweet way).

Projects seldom run smoothly - there are always obstacles which will require mitigation. The old project management mantra “Perfect Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance” has been completely ignored by the 15ers to be replaced by “Ah, don’t worry about that mate, it’ll be fine”.

And if your project plan anticipates getting planning consent in under 3 months for a major rebuild of one and a half sides of a football stadium (I use the term loosely) then it’s pretty much guaranteed to not run smoothly. 

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59 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

ALL of their problems are self-inflicted. Nothing to do with the Green Party, contractors, steel manufacturers, local residents, the Council Planning Department yada, yada, yada. They are the only ones to blame. Until they recognise and accept this, they’ll never take the necessary steps to remove the causes of their incompetence, enabling them to move forward with certainty. It’s called professionalism. (Personally, I’ll be delighted if they carry on in their own sweet way).

Projects seldom run smoothly - there are always obstacles which will require mitigation. The old project management mantra “Perfect Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance” has been completely ignored by the 15ers to be replaced by “Ah, don’t worry about that mate, it’ll be fine”.

Ah, but there's a combination of mitigating circumstances there.

That mantra requires 6 'P's, however Rovers don't have a pot to P in.

That combined with us so regularly taking the P forced them to seek another mantra to use.

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1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

All piss-taking aside, just for a brief moment, in 2023 how can ANY professional organisation, sporting or otherwise, expect to get away with the provision of NO facilities for disabled customers? It’s simply unconscionable, disgusting and completely unacceptable. They should receive the most stringent sanctions from the football and trading authorities.

I’d go further.

I don’t think their ground is suitable to stage any matches at league standard until they resolve this.

If they have to switch games to the second half of the season or play home ones at Forest Green or Cheltenham then tough.

Their stand shambles is pretty hilarious but this isn’t, they have I understand struggled to comply with the minimum seats for league football rule & initially offered Barnsley no seats for those with disabilities, not sure how (if?) they got around this one but it really isn’t acceptable.

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1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

ALL of their problems are self-inflicted. Nothing to do with the Green Party, contractors, steel manufacturers, local residents, the Council Planning Department yada, yada, yada. They are the only ones to blame. Until they recognise and accept this, they’ll never take the necessary steps to remove the causes of their incompetence, enabling them to move forward with certainty. It’s called professionalism. (Personally, I’ll be delighted if they carry on in their own sweet way).

Projects seldom run smoothly - there are always obstacles which will require mitigation. The old project management mantra “Perfect Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance” has been completely ignored by the 15ers to be replaced by “Ah, don’t worry about that mate, it’ll be fine”.

I’m glad you didn’t say they were the architects of their own downfall, as I’d be prepared to wager no architect has been anywhere near the place or the design idea. 

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The BP released some info about him. The summary is he is apparently a business man rather than an immensely rich investor.

The same article I have just found quoted Wael talking about the new stand.

"We're hostage to events that are out of control in terms of just getting approvals or contractors and timelines. You can plan all you want to get what you want done in a month or two but in reality when you come to execute, things get delayed.'

Plan all you want to? Or just not bother?

Things get delayed; that's where he went wrong. . . Its, "these things take time" that's the correct answer for someone who fudges everything & hasn't got a scoobie about what he's doing. Extremely unprofessional and totally and utterly tinpot.

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Bristol Rovers are exploring alternative options in their search for a new stadium, including redeveloping the Mem, Bristol Live understands, as talks between the club and the company behind the Fruit Market project are in danger of collapsing.

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Least surprising part of this?

“The Mayor’s Office is trying to keep the deal alive”.

Anyone still believe that this would be the case if it was us?
Absolutely clueless if you do.

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19 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

All piss-taking aside, just for a brief moment, in 2023 how can ANY professional organisation, sporting or otherwise, expect to get away with the provision of NO facilities for disabled customers? It’s simply unconscionable, disgusting and completely unacceptable. They should receive the most stringent sanctions from the football and trading authorities.

Their License to hold a sporting event should be revoked until they provide the facilities and if that reduces capacity by 500 then tough. I'm not joking either. That club seems unable to do ANYTHING properly.

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5 minutes ago, BS30 City said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-fruit-market-stadium-8743199

What a surprise :laughcont:

So, the new majority shareholders (who appear to be property developers) have control of what happens to the Memorial stadium.

Nice 40% stake for Wally as well.

Wonder how many houses they can get on site ?

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8 minutes ago, Super said:

Bristol Rovers are exploring alternative options in their search for a new stadium, including redeveloping the Mem, Bristol Live understands, as talks between the club and the company behind the Fruit Market project are in danger of collapsing.

Also collapsing are....

Their tents.

Their planning application.

And me. With laughter.

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In summary then - a developer offers to build them a 17-20K stadium and Wael of Fortune says yes because back then they were probably a Non-League or struggling fourth division outfit. Win a few games in the Third Division and it's now "we want 28K to beat they gurt sheeds init". Unfortunately the developer, who is a bit more switched on than pretty much all of their fanbase, realises that building a large stadium rather than a modest and realistic one will decrease the number of houses and whatever else they were putting on the site. This is the unfortunate bit, large stadiums take up MORE LAND and as fanciful as it sounds (to a Fewer anyway) that has quite a dramatic effect on the Viability side of the development calculation. I'm guessing Conygre, trying to be pragmatic and keep the deal alive, have said "if you want this big stadium and we're going to lose £20m off our viability are you going to pay us £20m to cover it?". For some odd reason all you could see was burning rubber and a loud screeching noise coming from the Car Park with the subsequent announcement that talks seem to now broken down......................

If that was us btw it would be the most massive of massive front page headlines ever written by the BEP. "The Shitheads FAIL in their stadium dream, have that you bastards" or something like that anyway.  

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20 minutes ago, Super said:

Bristol Rovers are exploring alternative options in their search for yet another sucker to build them a new stadium, for free, including redeveloping the Mem, Bristol Live understands, as talks between the club and the company behind the Fruit Market project are in danger of collapsing.

Fixed that for Bristol Live.

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At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious, they are going to develop the Mem one stand at a time over many years, aren’t they?

The advantage is it’s their ground already & in the area where a lot of their support is based (North Bristol), plus they must have the capability of making that funny stand that backs on to the car park & only occupies part of one of the sides a lot bigger, but that bit is going to be extremely expensive.

Disadvantages are it will take a very long time, require plenty of money to do even the most minor upgrade & it is highly unlikely that at the end of this (if they ever manage it) they’ll have a ground holding much more than 15,000.

Oh well.

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To be honest with 3400 in the new stand, the potential for at least 5000 in a redeveloped Thatchers end and 1800 in the West / East stands that gives us 10000 seats and approx 3000 standing left on the sides - good enough unless we hit the championship at which point rebuild the East.

Stadium been a distraction for years ..... would rather see progress on the pitch.

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At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious, they are going to develop the Mem one stand at a time over many years, aren’t they?

The advantage is it’s their ground already & in the area where a lot of their support is based (North Bristol), plus they must have the capability of making that funny stand that backs on to the car park & only occupies part of one of the sides a lot bigger, but that bit is going to be extremely expensive.

Disadvantages are it will take a very long time, require plenty of money to do even the most minor upgrade & it is highly unlikely that at the end of this (if they ever manage it) they’ll have a ground holding much more than 15,000.

Oh well.

Or their new property developing majority shareholders flog the site for housing and scarper ?

 

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2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious, they are going to develop the Mem one stand at a time over many years, aren’t they?

The advantage is it’s their ground already & in the area where a lot of their support is based (North Bristol), plus they must have the capability of making that funny stand that backs on to the car park & only occupies part of one of the sides a lot bigger, but that bit is going to be extremely expensive.

Disadvantages are it will take a very long time, require plenty of money to do even the most minor upgrade & it is highly unlikely that at the end of this (if they ever manage it) they’ll have a ground holding much more than 15,000.

Oh well.

They won’t pay for anything themselves, can honestly see things getting very bad for them, joey will do a runner soon and something doesn’t seem right with the new investment.

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34 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Least surprising part of this?

“The Mayor’s Office is trying to keep the deal alive”.

Anyone still believe that this would be the case if it was us?
Absolutely clueless if you do.

I'm sure it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with a certain deputy mayor . . . 

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12 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious, they are going to develop the Mem one stand at a time over many years, aren’t they?

The advantage is it’s their ground already & in the area where a lot of their support is based (North Bristol), plus they must have the capability of making that funny stand that backs on to the car park & only occupies part of one of the sides a lot bigger, but that bit is going to be extremely expensive.

Disadvantages are it will take a very long time, require plenty of money to do even the most minor upgrade & it is highly unlikely that at the end of this (if they ever manage it) they’ll have a ground holding much more than 15,000.

Oh well.

The problem with that strategy is nobody will build anything for you..............that sort of development could end up costing a minimum of 50 Tilsons (for 15K) but probably closer to 100 (the size they apparently want).

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Let me get this straight…

They teased fans about a new stadium, produced a high quality filmed video about the move and area etc, and had said that talks were going well. They never actually agreed on…

The size of the stadium 

The capacity of the stadium

The area of the site it would take up

The cost of it all 

How it’ll be funded

How the revenue share will work 

What in gods name did they actually agreed on then? I actually feel sorry for their fans for the first time ever. Amateur doesn’t even cover it. 
 

It’s basically the same as inviting friends and family over for a house warming in your new house, when you haven’t even viewed it yet, let alone bought it, you just like the look of the Rightmove listing. 

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So:

Look over here lads we’re building a stadium to distract you from a shite transfer window.

Look over here lads we’re building a new stand to distract you from nothing happening on the stadium front. 

Look over here lads we’ve got a new owner to distract you from signing a woman beater because they were cheap.

Look over here lads we’re busting our transfer record to distract you from the planning shag up with the new stand.

Look over here lads we’re sticking it to the pesky council and building our stand anyway to distract you from lying about signing a very expensive player.

Look over here lads we’re [fill in this when news announced ] to distract you from yet another stadium plan going south as we wanted it built for free. 
 

….. and they look the other way every time like the Goombas in the Mario Bros film when music is played???

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6 minutes ago, TomF said:

And yet they still drink the cool aid given to them by the club. Its hilarious. 

‘Wael is too much of a good negotiator’ apparently. Or it’s all made up because it’s coming from the post. Or actually this is all part of the negotiations tactics.

They really are ******* weird arent they. 

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5 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Let me get this straight…

They teased fans about a new stadium, produced a high quality filmed video about the move and area etc, and had said that talks were going well. They never actually agreed on…

The size of the stadium 

The capacity of the stadium

The area of the site it would take up

The cost of it all 

How it’ll be funded

How the revenue share will work 

What in gods name did they actually agreed on then? I actually feel sorry for their fans for the first time ever. Amateur doesn’t even cover it. 
 

It’s basically the same as inviting friends and family over for a house warming in your new house, when you haven’t even viewed it yet, let alone bought it, you just like the look of the Rightmove listing. 

I don't feel sorry for many of them. I know a few sound Gasheads but they are in a tiny minority. Loads of the fookers have come out of the woodwork in the last eighteen months, people you have known for years and never mentioned Da Gas once and you know they are really genuine Gas because they spout plenty of bullshit, plenty of bluster, the type that boast "at least we can sell out" when there are less than 8K in the ground and, as always, have NOTHING to show for it.

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??????????????????????

******* clowns ? the lot of them.

Including their ******* fans!

I bet the Fruitihad collapse is all down to the ******* Shitheads!

????

Deluded *****!

 
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As a Rovers supporter, watching the Stadium Saga continually descend into chaos at every attempt (i've lost count of the false dawns), I'm starting to believe the Board of directors is made up of Bozo the Clown, Oleg Popov, Joseph Grimaldi and Krusty the Clown.

I'm of the same opinion as PeterdeMeteor when he says "I'll believe it when I'm sat in it" , which is a phrase I've become accustomed to repeating far too often.

Same applies to the absolute mess of the transfer deadline day and the recent South Stand planning issue..how can the so called professional people responsible for running a football club manage to mess things up on such a regular basis?

I now truly believe there is no ambition for anything at Rovers. Its a non stop parade of hope and disappointment with the odd prospect of light at the end of the tunnel dangled like the proverbial carrot on a stick to keep the suckers buying season tickets in the vain hope believing that one day..just maybe they will actually do something rather than float up n down between divisions 3 and 4.

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Back a few months ago when they applied for planning permission I thought this would entertain us up until around the start of the new season.

I was wrong.

If this is a negotiation tactic, I guess the next meeting won't be going so well. Sounds like the only thing agreed on in the first meetings was which biscuits to have with the coffee? (Custard creams for me BTW).

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3 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Back a few months ago when they applied for planning permission I thought this would entertain us up until around the start of the new season.

I was wrong.

If this is a negotiation tactic, I guess the next meeting won't be going so well. Sounds like the only thing agreed on in the first meetings was which biscuits to have with the coffee? (Custard creams for me BTW).

You’re a bloody animal, custard creams are terrible for dunking 

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Wally is probably on the phone as I type to his favourite coach hire company....

Wally: Yeah, done it again. Dropped the ball and I think the fans are going to get a bit annoyed, can you rent me a vehicle, I need to buy them off with some free travel.

Coach Company: executive style, reasonably local so you can take as many as possible, we can offer you up to twenty coaches!

Wally: Err, Wednesday night, Pappa John's trophy, local game. Minibus. Just the one.....

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You’re a bloody animal, custard creams are terrible for dunking 

The number of times I’ve dunked a custard cream,looked down to see only a halve left in my hand…….

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I don't believe the Gas have intent towards a new stadium. If they did they should have made a huge play a few years back for the land adjacent to Gypsy Patch Lane and the A38 where the Village hotel and gym, plus a number of car showrooms now stand. Easy access to the motorway, a local rail station and on a bus route would have made it ideal. They could even have used Stoker's as their pub. 

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Although there are some sensible people on the Rovers’ forum who realise how shambolic the club is, there are still a lot who are totally deluded - e.g. 
 

 “I think we knew that Wael and co were hard bargainers after the UWE collapse.

That's a good thing, we want a good deal for the club ultimately.”

How can anyone believe the UWE and Fruit Market stadiums have fallen through because of Wael’s negotiating skills?  They’ve fallen through because, as always, Rovers don’t want to spend any money. 

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