Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[Buster Footman's T shirt]

[Lanterne Rouge]

23 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

But Wally has installed a rockery in its place now.

And done some decking.

Oh sorry, my mistake. That was Jailbird Joey on Saturday night after someone looked at him funny.

[Lanterne Rouge]

5 minutes ago, BS15_RED said:

Mr Lying, Jackanory C J Computing? To be fair one them on Sagchat just told him he was full of shit!

TBF they mostly do nowadays - it all goes back to him making up that story about City fans beating up a disabled person and the club doing nothing about it. Even the dribblers thought that was out of order and have called him out on it ever since.

[alexukhc]

They knew this all along, building new stands(without permission) while applying for new sites, ok then 

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

1 hour ago, Jose said:

Couldn't agree more, and apart from the 6 fingered inbreds I doubt anyone else has that much of an opinion of us anyway, other than they tend to think we have great support when we go away.
 

They just can’t stop can they…….

 

[Fpcity]

1 hour ago, TheReds said:

I'm wondering if Wally has done a bit of a brown envelope business deal with the developers, he then sells the majority of his shares to some gullible bloke on the "nearly completed stadium deal" that will bring them untold fortunes, and then bang, "sorry pal, I cannot believe it's fell through".

Isn't that what the previous owners did to him? 

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

13 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

TBF they mostly do nowadays - it all goes back to him making up that story about City fans beating up a disabled person and the club doing nothing about it. Even the dribblers thought that was out of order and have called him out on it ever since.

Well…let’s be accurate here mate

One or two were sceptical at the time about the story but the vast majority of them were only too eager to believe him without question despite how ridiculous the claims were. In the years since a few more have reluctantly had to admit that he was clearly spouting bullshit but only a small number actually call him out on this. 

 

 

[Gert Mare]

Wally has provided an update on all of the recent cock ups.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to take.....

 

 

[BS15_RED]

21 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

TBF they mostly do nowadays - it all goes back to him making up that story about City fans beating up a disabled person and the club doing nothing about it. Even the dribblers thought that was out of order and have called him out on it ever since.

Didn’t the Constabulary pay him a visit?

[Glen hump]

2 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:

Wally has provided an update on all of the recent cock ups.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to take.....

 

 

Superb work 

[Lanterne Rouge]

2 minutes ago, BS15_RED said:

Didn’t the Constabulary pay him a visit?

They did indeed and marked his card in no uncertain terms.

[54-46]

7 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

They did indeed and marked his card in no uncertain terms.

What happened to that WPC Julie(?) who used to update us on his bullshite?

[TheReds]

8 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:

Wally has provided an update on all of the recent cock ups.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to take.....

 

 

Everyone knows he was telling porkies back then and surely a huge red flag as he mentioned "as soon as we have something concrete people will know".

He's only ever purchased plastic and canvas since he has been there.

[Vespa Red]

15 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:

Wally has provided an update on all of the recent cock ups.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to take.....

 

 

 

[Kid in the Riot]

Good luck to them redeveloping the Mem. When they got planning for the last redevelopment back in the 00's it was viable due to enabling development in the form of student accommodation for UWE. 

UWE have since built masses of student accommodation on their existing campus, and so it's unlikely there is still off-site demand.

Also, I'm not convinced UWE will be keen on going into partnership with Rovers given the UWE stadium debacle, when Rovers pulled the plug on the scheme late in the day. 

Rovers have proven themselves time and time again to be completely unreliable development partners. 

[alexukhc]

7 minutes ago, 54-46 said:

What happened to that WPC Julie(?) who used to update us on his bullshite?

I think she left for her own safety

[cider hoss rules]

They really love old Henbury Ass!

[Silvio Dante]

44 minutes ago, TheReds said:

Everyone knows he was telling porkies back then and surely a huge red flag as he mentioned "as soon as we have something concrete people will know".

He's only ever purchased plastic and canvas since he has been there.

To be fair, at their normal rate of development they’re probably looking into investing in RAAC as we speak 

[Topper 123]

I do feel a little sorry for rovers fans , they have put up with so much shit over the years and still are , they were never going to get FM bowl off the ground , the access and egress around that area is a nightmare now and where did they think they’d all park .I suppose the filton airfield wouldn’t be a bad fit for them as easy road links to ring road but as football fans ( I use that term loosely ) they have been mushrooms who are constantly fed shite , I wonder if they could even afford to get rid of that useless midget of a manager 

[Dolman Block B]

They ain’t going nowhere. 

[Redsi2]

Makes me laugh the gas are all saying redevelop the mem like we did. They seem to forget you need 70 million or more now to do that. There owners have no access to that sort of money and unfortunately no one is going to come along and do it for free!!

[David Brent]

4 hours ago, BS15_RED said:

It seems an opportune time to bring this back out!

That’s the one 

[slartibartfast]

3 hours ago, BrizzleRed said:

Well, at least they’ve already got the new curtains towrds it!!!

"One day, all this will be yours ."

" What the curtains ?"

" ....er............yes ."

[awbb]

1 minute ago, slartibartfast said:

"One day, all this will be yours ."

" What the curtains ?"

" ....er............yes ."

There is a nice symmetry between the multiple efforts to build Swamp Castle and the Sags effort to build a new ground. 

[luke_bristol]

******* up stadium developments….it’s what they do!

[Open End Numb Legs]

12 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said:

They ain’t going nowhere. 

Reminds me of those optical illusion puzzles with all the stairs in!

Not quite sure where all the parts end up and connect together. I am sure they have it all in hand, yeh?

[Fordy62]

Hilarity tinged with some sadness today. Yes it’s hilarious the plug has been pulled on the fruit market, but more than a serving of sadness that their banter has quite possibly reached its absolute pinnacle today. Surely this can never be topped? 

[bcfc01]

6 minutes ago, Redsi2 said:

Makes me laugh the gas are all saying redevelop the mem like we did. They seem to forget you need 70 million or more now to do that. There owners have no access to that sort of money and unfortunately no one is going to come along and do it for free!!

I would say, using a rule of thumb which is now out of date, that a 20k stadium would cost 60m for a good finish. Given that they would obviously go for a cheap version, it would still be in the region of 45m-50m.

As I say, thats probably now out of date given the rise in construction costs (and everything else) in the last few years.

Of course, if they want to go down the route of temporary stands with pillars and plastic roofs, such as their new South Stand, it would be a hell of a lot less but offer nothing in terms of additional off pitch revenue. But I don't think they could afford even that.

They're *****d.

Which is nice.

[bcfc01]

4 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Hilarity tinged with some sadness today. Yes it’s hilarious the plug has been pulled on the fruit market, but more than a serving of sadness that their banter has quite possibly reached its absolute pinnacle today. Surely this can never be topped? 

Tinge of sadness for me as well.

Went down the pub early hoping to have a decent wind up, but not a Pikey in sight.

Had a couple and came home.

There's always tomorrow.

[Flounder]

42 minutes ago, cider hoss rules said:

They really love old Henbury Ass!

Like rats in a sack - Sweet

[bcfc01]

Jesus ! One of them has a brain;

"I can't see why ytl would want a stadium next to an arena anyway surely it would be in direct competition with the arena for events and concerts etc."

[Club and Country]

30 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said:

They ain’t going nowhere. 

Tbf looks a lot sturdy then anything else of they have built 

I presume they have planning now then? Or could they literally be taking a risk and potentially have to pull it down?

[bcfc01]

4 minutes ago, Club and Country said:

Tbf looks a lot sturdy then anything else of they have built 

I presume they have planning now then? Or could they literally be taking a risk and potentially have to pull it down?

No, they don't have planning and those lights won't fully clear the roof.

 

[Open End Numb Legs]

12 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I would say, using a rule of thumb which is now out of date, that a 20k stadium would cost 60m for a good finish. Given that they would obviously go for a cheap version, it would still be in the region of 45m-50m.

As I say, thats probably now out of date given the rise in construction costs (and everything else) in the last few years.

Of course, if they want to go down the route of temporary stands with pillars and plastic roofs, such as their new South Stand, it would be a hell of a lot less but offer nothing in terms of additional off pitch revenue. But I don't think they could afford even that.

They're *****d.

Which is nice.

The roof is plastic? 

[glynriley]

37 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said:

They ain’t going nowhere. 

Coming along nicely. Here’s how it will look in 5 years time

[Dolman Block B]

They are a complete joke of a club

we don’t know how lucky we are 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Dolman Block B

[City Rocker]

20 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Hilarity tinged with some sadness today. Yes it’s hilarious the plug has been pulled on the fruit market, but more than a serving of sadness that their banter has quite possibly reached its absolute pinnacle today. Surely this can never be topped? 

They really are too funny aren't they? 

I wonder whether it's possible for the hilarity to increase to such an intensity that it reaches critical mass and, like dark matter, collapses in on itself in a comedy implosion, and just suddenly stops being funny any more? 

I do hope not. 

[Dolman Block B]

No Fruit Market Stadium celebrations on Totterdown Bridge tonight

 

 

[ever-red]

42 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said:

They ain’t going nowhere. 

Tell that women to get a hardhat on ain't been done up yet

[Sir Colby-Tit]

5 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

I don't believe the Gas have intent towards a new stadium. If they did they should have made a huge play a few years back for the land adjacent to Gypsy Patch Lane and the A38 where the Village hotel and gym, plus a number of car showrooms now stand. Easy access to the motorway, a local rail station and on a bus route would have made it ideal. They could even have used Stoker's as their pub. 

Stokers could have been full of strokers, bet they're gutted.

[Flamin Groovy]

6 minutes ago, ever-red said:

Tell that women to get a hardhat on ain't been done up yet

They don’t even need scaffolding to erect this mega-structure …….there is a stepladder though.

[Lewisdabaron]

1 hour ago, Gert Mare said:

Wally has provided an update on all of the recent cock ups.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to take.....

 

 

Hence the need for an expensive watch…. 

[bs3]

When the UWE deal fell through a lot of their fan base boycotted Sainsbury’s are there going to stop eating their 5 a day over this fiasco.

[italian dave]

3 minutes ago, bs3 said:

When the UWE deal fell through a lot of their fan base boycotted Sainsbury’s are there going to stop eating their 5 a day over this fiasco.

They’re already boycotting anything green! 

[Simon bristol]

1 hour ago, Dolman Block B said:

They ain’t going nowhere. 

Its pathetic but its better than it was,,, as soon as this work was announced a few months ago it was obvious they werent going to build this if there was any likelihood of the fruit market development happening.

perhaps with the 300k defender signing, and the 800k jch potential signing ( if that was ever really sanctioned), plus this stand expenditure someone is actually starting to spend some money on them?

There is a sense though that if you are going to do a job,, do it properly,, that ramshackle stand is clearly a bodge… 45 million or so for a rebuilt stadium isn’t affordable but doing one stand at a time would at least offer improved facilities as they went along if they could ever do anything properly…. If they could have a version of the atyeo stand where we had our changing rooms and offices for years, and maybe a supporters bar facility that would be a huge upgrade… i was up at crewe a few months ago and drove past their stadium… all nicely paved with a really nice stand at one end, it ought to be possible, even for that lot?!

[BS3City]

1 hour ago, Dolman Block B said:

They ain’t going nowhere. 

I thought the design incorporated some kind of concourse? I'm no architect but there won't be enough room to fart under that stand!

It's shite!

Which is nice... 

[Port Said Red]

1 hour ago, Flamin Groovy said:

They don’t even need scaffolding to erect this mega-structure …….there is a stepladder though.

Stepladder? A shocking slur, that's his real ladder. 

[cityal]

1 hour ago, BS3City said:

I thought the design incorporated some kind of concourse? I'm no architect but there won't be enough room to fart under that stand!

It's shite!

Which is nice... 

Can I be the first to suggest it looks the perfect size for trolls?

[sglosbcfc]

Their Kuwaiti multi billionaires are probably buying out City now, so the Gas can take over Ashton...unlucky da sh*t.

[slartibartfast]

2 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

Hilarity tinged with some sadness today. Yes it’s hilarious the plug has been pulled on the fruit market, but more than a serving of sadness that their banter has quite possibly reached its absolute pinnacle today. Surely this can never be topped? 

Never say never !

[Miah Dennehy]

11 hours ago, mattjb said:

Well these things take time apparently Miah 

Yes, and improvements have definitely been made. I mean, we almost , but not quite, broke our transfer record, and we talked for a couple of years about building a new stadium that had almost started to get me to believe it might happen. I blame the ref.

[Miah Dennehy]

10 hours ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Take your time, there's no rush! We will wait just outside the Prem for you.

Good to see there are a few sensible posters on your forum. They deserve better but there you go.

I honestly do want to stay at the Mem , for reasons I have said so on here before, although as the fruit market is fairly central I could have been happy with it. I've stopped worrying about behind the scenes stuff long ago and just enjoy a weekend with mates and occasionally seeing a good game- which tbf we have seen a few of lately. 

Sometimes I do think though 'FFS really?' . I have lost count of the number of new grounds proposed and promised, we must hold some kind of record.

[Barrs Court Red]

41 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

 

Sometimes I do think though 'FFS really?' . I have lost count of the number of new grounds proposed and promised, we must hold some kind of record.

That period late 90’s & mid 00’s was wild for stadium plans, for both clubs.

Ashton Gate Rebuild -30k

Hengrove - 40k

Severnside (shared stadium)

Fruit Market (shared stadium) 

Mem Rebuild - 15k? 

East End rebuild 

UWE stadium 

Ashton Vale (I think this fits in the time frame) 

It’s the sites that weren’t announced I find interesting. We know City acknowledged the council offered arena Island, and Rovers likewise has land by Rolls Royce suggested to them but there’s been a fair few others that to me, sounded like a really good idea. 

 

[Eddie Hitler]

1 hour ago, Miah Dennehy said:

we must hold some kind of record.

 

Yes.

And it gets worse, it's this kind.

 

 

[Son of Fred]

14 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

When is that? I think we need to repost that article from a few pages back that was from the mid 60s, in case some of their younger fans think that this kind of flim flam is something new in their history.

[fanjita]

“Flim Flam”

[Gazred]

They'll be in there by 1997...

[NcnsBcfc]

28 minutes ago, Gazred said:

They'll be in there by 1997...

Blimey had completely forgotten about the whole Severnside site.

What were the reasons for it not going ahead in the end?

[Open End Numb Legs]

12 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Blimey had completely forgotten about the whole Severnside site.

What were the reasons for it not going ahead in the end?

Don't know but looks as though some of the land became a Tesco distribution warehouse. Pesky Ted supermarkets.

[Port Said Red]

18 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Blimey had completely forgotten about the whole Severnside site.

What were the reasons for it not going ahead in the end?

Shockingly I believe the Rovers were asked to contribute something to the cost of building the stadium, despite being given the land for free. The nerve of some people.....

I love how in that article they say it "ends a desperate search" 

Edited September 12, 2023 by Port Said Red

[Gazred]

19 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Blimey had completely forgotten about the whole Severnside site.

What were the reasons for it not going ahead in the end?

All taken from here: http://bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/ici-severnside.html

http://bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/history-of-failed-stadia-attempts.html

Edited September 12, 2023 by Gazred

[NcnsBcfc]

ICI Severnside - The Bristol Rovers History Group. (weebly.com)

Ah yes, the recurring theme of someone else doing them over....

Like my teenage son's, it's always someone else's fault....

[Port Said Red]

8 minutes ago, Gazred said:

All taken from here: http://bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/ici-severnside.html

http://bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/history-of-failed-stadia-attempts.html

Graham Russell, was never sure about him. Who is the mysterious shareholder who was adamant we should groundshare with the Gas? That didn't come to much did it, despite his sign off on that article. 

Sounds like wish fulfilment to me.

[NcnsBcfc]

18 minutes ago, Gazred said:

All taken from here: http://bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/ici-severnside.html

http://bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/history-of-failed-stadia-attempts.html

When you start going through all the failed proposals over 50 years, I can't think of another football club whose new stadium plans have been such abject failures.

The recurring theme is always "How is this going to be paid for?" 

The plans seem to range from "Sports Grants" to "Other Investors". At least with Ashton Vale, there was a coherent plan of selling AG, building homes on ground that we owned, plus the remainder coming from SL.

None of these Rovers' plans even mention at any stage funding, let alone a business plan. They are all just pie in the sky.

[Port Said Red]

Just now, NcnsBcfc said:

When you start going through all the failed proposals over 50 years, I can't think of another football club whose new stadium plans have been such abject failures.

The recurring theme is always "How is this going to be paid for?" 

The plans seem to range from "Sports Grants" to "Other Investors". At least with Ashton Vale, there was a coherent plan of selling AG, building homes on ground that we owned, plus the remainder coming from SL.

None of these Rovers' plans even mention at any stage funding, let alone a business plan. They are all just pie in the sky.

Remembering of course that SL had already built the land and put £35m in a pot up front to show this commitment.

[The Gasbuster]

7 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

None of these Rovers' plans even mention at any stage funding, let alone a business plan. They are all just pie in the sky.

Nail on head.

The 15ers never have had; and probably never will have , the funds for a new stadium.

Edited September 12, 2023 by The Gasbuster

[bobbyhutchscurlymullet]

1 hour ago, Son of Fred said:

FIVE YEARS!! 

[Scrumpty]

2 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

That period late 90’s & mid 00’s was wild for stadium plans, for both clubs.

Ashton Gate Rebuild -30k

Hengrove - 40k

Severnside (shared stadium)

Fruit Market (shared stadium) 

Mem Rebuild - 15k? 

East End rebuild 

UWE stadium 

Ashton Vale (I think this fits in the time frame) 

It’s the sites that weren’t announced I find interesting. We know City acknowledged the council offered arena Island, and Rovers likewise has land by Rolls Royce suggested to them but there’s been a fair few others that to me, sounded like a really good idea. 

 

In the late 80s they had the subterranean bowl at Mangotsfield to dream about!

[Ska Junkie]

2 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said:

 

Yes.

And it gets worse, it's this kind.

 

 

I went to a funeral of a top, top man a few months ago. He was a staunch gashead but not religious. This was played at the service.

[NcnsBcfc]

7 minutes ago, Scrumpty said:

In the late 80s they had the subterranean bowl at Mangotsfield to dream about!

Mangotsfield - The Bristol Rovers History Group. (weebly.com)

This one was even worse "Homing in on a new Stadium". What shows up is the Journalists over the years never challenge how this things are going to work. Just like now, they seem to be there to report what the club wants them to report.