Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[Topper 123]

1 hour ago, BCFC11 said:

Clearly have no idea what Chris Martin is/isn’t capable of these days

 

Really excited by this, bit of a no lose situation in my opinion, he could even end up our JCH signing without the price tag. 

Good luck Chris, make your mark wearing the famous quarters.

Funny how 6 fingered mutants are over the moon about one of our ex players who they were calling a shithead only months ago , what’s that 3 now this season :laugh: they’ll be playing in red Quaters next haha 

[GrahamC]

Looked on their official site to see how they announced Chris Martin & just like when they signed Jack Hunt they haven’t mentioned that he previously played for us.

Both these players made circa 100 appearances for us, so absolutely pathetic on their part to deliberately ignore this & try & pretend otherwise.

 

[BS3City]

Soooooooo predictable getting excited about the Chris Martin signing. 

Yer average Sags sister is gonna get an absolute pounding tonight...

[Riaz]

Next they’ll be putting up the old east end, when they finally get planning permission for their new stand..
 

[cityal]

43 minutes ago, Riaz said:

Next they’ll be putting up the old east end, when they finally get planning permission for their new stand..
 

On the subject of planning permission (apologies link here is not directly football related!) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66934296
TLDR - A fully completed block of flats in woolwich has been ordered to be torn down as the final building did not match the designs closely enough

Lets hope such a recent precedent (and on a major project) is at the fore front of the minds of the planning comittee when they review the plans vs the reality for their stand.

Edited September 27, 2023 by cityal

[Son of Fred]

10 hours ago, cityal said:

On the subject of planning permission (apologies link here is not directly football related!) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66934296
TLDR - A fully completed block of flats in woolwich has been ordered to be torn down as the final building did not match the designs closely enough

Lets hope such a recent precedent (and on a major project) is at the fore front of the minds of the planning comittee when they review the plans vs the reality for their stand.

You would imagine that a local authority building inspector would have of course been involved in passing all required phases during its development???

[Mallorcan Red]

So Chris Martin did a job for us, got older & slower, was moved on then was out of contract at QPR, needs to feed his family and sadly chose to join the blue few to see out the year. He isn’t the first to head across the city and wont he the last. Good to have another agent in there. No hard feelings from me.

But who of our ex-first team would be hardest for us to take if they made the move over to the Horfield campsite? Even if they hadn't played for us for years. 

 

[42nite]

16 minutes ago, Mallorcan Red said:

So Chris Martin did a job for us, got older & slower, was moved on then was out of contract at QPR, needs to feed his family and sadly chose to join the blue few to see out the year. He isn’t the first to head across the city and wont he the last. Good to have another agent in there. No hard feelings from me.

But who of our ex-first team would be hardest for us to take if they made the move over to the Horfield campsite? Even if they hadn't played for us for years. 

 

 

John Galley....He's still in their age range!

Don't do it John.

 

[hinsleburg]

1 hour ago, Mallorcan Red said:

So Chris Martin did a job for us, got older & slower, was moved on then was out of contract at QPR, needs to feed his family and sadly chose to join the blue few to see out the year. He isn’t the first to head across the city and wont he the last. Good to have another agent in there. No hard feelings from me.

But who of our ex-first team would be hardest for us to take if they made the move over to the Horfield campsite? Even if they hadn't played for us for years. 

 

Of players currently playing and on the way down career wise it would be Korey Smith for me, loved him for us especially that promotion year. 

Can see Pack potentially making a move their next year, believe his family still live local and whilst I think he enjoys playing for his local club it's a long distance from his family.

Maybe that's their plan, to try and rebuild our promotion team with some of our 'Championship experience', JET is available and Wilbraham is in their age bracket...

[Gimme Shelton]

13 hours ago, Topper 123 said:

Funny how 6 fingered mutants are over the moon about one of our ex players who they were calling a shithead only months ago , what’s that 3 now this season they’ll be playing in red Quaters next haha 

In the '50s their reserves did play in red and white quarters strangely 

[pongo88]

1 hour ago, Mallorcan Red said:

So Chris Martin did a job for us, got older & slower, was moved on then was out of contract at QPR, needs to feed his family and sadly chose to join the blue few to see out the year. He isn’t the first to head across the city and wont he the last. Good to have another agent in there. No hard feelings from me.

But who of our ex-first team would be hardest for us to take if they made the move over to the Horfield campsite? Even if they hadn't played for us for years. 

 

Albert

[Galley is our king]

1 hour ago, 42nite said:

 

John Galley....He's still in their age range!

Don't do it John.

 

Don't worry, not a snowballs chance in hell.....

[Red Army 75]

It doesn’t bother me if any of our ex players went there. They will never sign a player from us who is in his younger or prime days. They are having our ex players who are getting their last paycheque. Speaks volumes in the difference in the club’s.

 

[Sweeneys Penalties]

2 hours ago, Mallorcan Red said:

So Chris Martin did a job for us, got older & slower, was moved on then was out of contract at QPR, needs to feed his family and sadly chose to join the blue few to see out the year. He isn’t the first to head across the city and wont he the last. Good to have another agent in there. No hard feelings from me.

But who of our ex-first team would be hardest for us to take if they made the move over to the Horfield campsite? Even if they hadn't played for us for years. 

 

so......do we now refer to him as "the snake"?

[bcfc01]

It must be a bit depressing for him after playing at the likes of Norwich, Derby, City, and QPR with the facilities and fan base at those clubs. He should be doing better than them, even given his age. I'm not sure of his contract, but it wouldn't surprise me if it isn't just a "get fit" period to enable him to move to a decent club. 

Best of luck to him anyway, he did well for us, especially in the WSM period.

Surprised Jack Hunt is there, he could do better than that shower, must be a location thing after being away at a big club like Sheffield Wednesday. Best of luck to him as well, more than competent full back for us and as hard as nails and very good at the shithousery.

[1960maaan]

1 minute ago, bcfc01 said:

It must be a bit depressing for him after playing at the likes of Norwich, Derby, City, and QPR with the facilities and fan base at those clubs. He should be doing better than them, even given his age. I'm not sure of his contract, but it wouldn't surprise me if it isn't just a "get fit" period to enable him to move to a decent club.

I'm guessing this is a little tongue in cheek, but anyway.

He likes the area, lives locally and TBH I don't see him getting a gig above L1. So for him it makes perfect sense. 
You can look on it as charity work 

Jack Hunt OTOH, I would have thought he would able to find a Club nearer to his Northern roots . i guess you go where the work is. 

[Bristol Rob]

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/rovers-to-withdraw-planning-application-new-stand/

 

 

[GrahamC]

30 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

It must be a bit depressing for him after playing at the likes of Norwich, Derby, City, and QPR with the facilities and fan base at those clubs. He should be doing better than them, even given his age. I'm not sure of his contract, but it wouldn't surprise me if it isn't just a "get fit" period to enable him to move to a decent club. 

Best of luck to him anyway, he did well for us, especially in the WSM period.

Surprised Jack Hunt is there, he could do better than that shower, must be a location thing after being away at a big club like Sheffield Wednesday. Best of luck to him as well, more than competent full back for us and as hard as nails and very good at the shithousery.

Martin is 35 next month, lives in Bristol & frankly wasn’t knocking back the offers. He has only got a deal until January but no idea as to whether that was their choice or his.

Hunt is 33 before the year is out & was in talks with L2 Bradford this summer, if he could have got a better offer then he wouldn’t be there, but he didn’t.

[Davefevs]

Just now, GrahamC said:

Martin is 35 next month, lives in Bristol & frankly wasn’t knocking back the offers. He has only got a deal until January but no idea as to whether that was their choice or his.

Hunt is 33 before the year is out & was in talks with L2 Bradford this summer, if he could have got a better offer then he wouldn’t be there, but he didn’t.

I suspect Rovers are paying quite well up against a lot (not all) of Lg1 clubs.

[bcfc01]

8 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Martin is 35 next month, lives in Bristol & frankly wasn’t knocking back the offers. He has only got a deal until January but no idea as to whether that was their choice or his.

Hunt is 33 before the year is out & was in talks with L2 Bradford this summer, if he could have got a better offer then he wouldn’t be there, but he didn’t.

Aside from the good wishes to the players, it was a bit tongue in cheek for our mutated friends up north tbh.

 

[GrahamC]

11 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I suspect Rovers are paying quite well up against a lot (not all) of Lg1 clubs.

Me too & if they weren’t being so childish about trying to pretend that these 2 have never played for us I’d be happy to say I get the logic.

Martin is a clever footballer, Hunt is a steady full back, both have had very decent careers.

[alexukhc]

1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/rovers-to-withdraw-planning-application-new-stand/

 

 

Uhhhhhh

[And Its Smith]

1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/rovers-to-withdraw-planning-application-new-stand/

 

 

Will still be built. Will just take a bit longer 

[Bristol Rob]

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Will still be built. Will just take a bit longer 

Raises all sorts of questions.

Will the new application be at the bottom of the pile.

With previous votes of support or objection still be valid.

Will the new application be the same or different to the one they submitted before.

Will there be the same number of spaces for disabled supporters.

Someone somewhere will be a loser in this.

[GrahamC]

4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Will still be built. Will just take a bit longer 

Guessing this is either procedural or to ensure that it now goes through as quickly as possible.

The total naivety of those on here saying that it will be refused & will have to be taken down, they have had someone on the inside with a vested interest who has been pushing this ahead of the usual queues all along. Same thing applies with the Fruit Market project, even though that appears to be dead.

If they were a halfway competent outfit this stand would be in use by now.

[Red Homer]

4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Guessing this is either procedural or to ensure that it now goes through as quickly as possible.

The total naivety of those on here saying that it will be refused & will have to be taken down, they have had someone on the inside with a vested interest who has been pushing this ahead of the usual queues all along. Same thing applies with the Fruit Market project, even though that appears to be dead.

If they were a halfway competent outfit this stand would be in use by now.

I would imagine (dealing with planning day-to-day as I do) that BCC as the LPA have advised that the application is likely to be rejected, and that with modification x,y and z it should go through, so the best thing is to withdraw and resubmit. That's normally the reason behind application withdrawals, I could be totally wrong though!

[Red-Robbo]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I suspect Rovers are paying quite well up against a lot (not all) of Lg1 clubs.

 

Well, they do have a very wealthy donner, er sorry, I mean donor....

 

[Son of Fred]

10 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Raises all sorts of questions.

Will the new application be at the bottom of the pile.

With previous votes of support or objection still be valid.

Will the new application be the same or different to the one they submitted before.

Will there be the same number of spaces for disabled supporters.

Someone somewhere will be a loser in this.

I assume this withdrawal is on the advice of Bristol building control.

[Son of Fred]

1 minute ago, Red Homer said:

I would imagine (dealing with planning day-to-day as I do) that BCC as the LPA have advised that the application is likely to be rejected, and that with modification x,y and z it should go through, so the best thing is to withdraw and resubmit. That's normally the reason behind application withdrawals, I could be totally wrong though!

Believe your correct Homer-

Hadn't read your post & placed similar lower down the line.

[Open End Numb Legs]

1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/rovers-to-withdraw-planning-application-new-stand/

 

 

Not surprised.

The entertainment continues .

Interesting to compare the recent photo in the press article with that on street view, when there was just Steve's big screen. Very different for the locals.

[And Its Smith]

15 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Guessing this is either procedural or to ensure that it now goes through as quickly as possible.

The total naivety of those on here saying that it will be refused & will have to be taken down, they have had someone on the inside with a vested interest who has been pushing this ahead of the usual queues all along. Same thing applies with the Fruit Market project, even though that appears to be dead.

If they were a halfway competent outfit this stand would be in use by now.

It’s all pretty standard stuff. Guess some will fall for a headline 

[bcfc01]

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

It’s all pretty standard stuff. Guess some will fall for a headline 

Putting in a planning application, then withdrawing it, then having to resubmit another application is standard stuff ?

Yeah right.

Its a complete cock up and the original plans obviously do not match what they are trying to build.

It will eventually go through but this most definitely is not standard stuff.

[And Its Smith]

3 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Putting in a planning application, then withdrawing it, then having to resubmit another application is standard stuff ?

Yeah right.

Its a complete cock up and the original plans obviously do not match what they are trying to build.

It will eventually go through but this most definitely is not standard stuff.

They’ve been told to amend it so that’s what they are doing. They are withdrawing, amending and resubmitting.  Pretty standard stuff really.  

[bcfc01]

The Post are reporting that the new planning application will take the club back to square one and all previous letters of support/objection will be disregarded with new support/objections based on the new application. I'm not sure if that is the case, but if so it will take it into next year despite being "fast tracked".

 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/neighbours-told-bristol-rovers-re-8787562

 

[alexukhc]

Can the council already say “look guys, no permission, you withdrew application, take it down like”

Edited September 28, 2023 by alexukhc

[Silvio Dante]

2 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

Will still be built. Will just take a bit longer 

“These things take time” you might say!

[alexukhc]

Thinking bout it, anyone think they’ve pulled out of planning permission is cuz they can’t afford to finish it?

[Bristol Rob]

Just now, alexukhc said:

Thinking bout it, anyone think they’ve pulled out of planning permission is cuz they can’t afford to finish it?

Nah, I reckon it has dawned on them that what they've built isn't remotely like the plan they submitted and they've been told that it isn't worth turning up, arguing their case, being told 'no', going back to the start and then doing it all over again.

They've probably been told 'it'll be easier for everyone, if you just start the planning process again'. 

[42nite]

 

The gift just keeps on giving!

 

[Red Homer]

1 hour ago, bcfc01 said:

The Post are reporting that the new planning application will take the club back to square one and all previous letters of support/objection will be disregarded with new support/objections based on the new application. I'm not sure if that is the case, but if so it will take it into next year despite being "fast tracked".

 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/neighbours-told-bristol-rovers-re-8787562

 

Any Interested Party representations only apply to the current application. Therefore, anything that has already been submitted will be null and void once the application is withdrawn. Nothing to stop IPs from writing in again, saying that their previous reasons for support/objection still stand and attach their original rep.

[And Its Smith]

1 hour ago, bcfc01 said:

The Post are reporting that the new planning application will take the club back to square one and all previous letters of support/objection will be disregarded with new support/objections based on the new application. I'm not sure if that is the case, but if so it will take it into next year despite being "fast tracked".

 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/neighbours-told-bristol-rovers-re-8787562

 

Yes it will be the case. Technically a new plan with a new planning number. 

[BS3City]

Whatever, pathetic *****.

If I need to submit another objection then I will. To be honest I think my second objection will be even better than the first.

Remember all the Sag dog walkers using Ashton Vale? I do...

[Bazooka Joe]

in days long gone, they used to have an ugly, dilapidated stand at Eastville known as the Tote End.

Now it looks like they're trying to construct the Tote-ally Crap End.

What a bunch of losers and half-wits !

[Galley is our king]

3 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

They’ve been told to amend it so that’s what they are doing. They are withdrawing, amending and resubmitting.  Pretty standard stuff really.  

Pretty standard stuff so long as your not actually building the bloody thing!!!

This is appalling and they should be made to remove it.....now!

Starting to build without planning permission or building regulations is a complete no no. Not even for a school or hospital!

[italian dave]

3 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Guessing this is either procedural or to ensure that it now goes through as quickly as possible.

The total naivety of those on here saying that it will be refused & will have to be taken down, they have had someone on the inside with a vested interest who has been pushing this ahead of the usual queues all along. Same thing applies with the Fruit Market project, even though that appears to be dead.

If they were a halfway competent outfit this stand would be in use by now.

It can happen…..

https://theintermediary.co.uk/2023/09/royal-borough-of-greenwich-moves-to-enforce-demolition-of-two-tower-blocks-following-planning-violations/
 

I’m not seriously comparing the two though: agree with you that it will happen, we just have to enjoy the ride! 

[1960maaan]

I'm confident we would have gone about it in a totally proper and professional way, unlike that mob who seem to think they don't need to comply with anything.
I would hope that every one that has applied for planning before Billy Smarts, gets heard and processed before them. As I would if it was us. 
That would put it back to 6 months after they apply, and we know they aren't quick with the Etch-a-sketch. Ready for next year, possibly.

[phantom]

Out of interest who are they blaming this time?

[Bristol Rob]

9 minutes ago, phantom said:

Out of interest who are they blaming this time?

Here you go.

 

 

 

[bcfc01]

11 minutes ago, phantom said:

Out of interest who are they blaming this time?

Penny has finally dropped with a few, but there are still the bell ends like this creature (calls itself amgas);

"Not sure why people think lack of planning permission will stop us using it - once it is finished bums will be on the seats. None of the small stands people have been sitting in over recent weeks have planning permission".

[bert tann]

29 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Penny has finally dropped with a few, but there are still the bell ends like this creature (calls itself amgas);

"Not sure why people think lack of planning permission will stop us using it - once it is finished bums will be on the seats. None of the small stands people have been sitting in over recent weeks have planning permission".

I believe "amgas" is the nom de plume of Mr Al-Quidi himself.

 "Finnished bums will be on the seats" is a well known phrase in Amman as well as Helsinki.

[Guest]

Planning permissions are there for a reason, without it anyone can build what they like,where they like, block of flats in back garden anyone? even with permission if you vary from its detail you could well have to take it down......like some builder in London with new tower blocks, some sold and lived in, but way off with the planning permission details according to the council, now could have to take it down at costs of 10`s of millions

 

[Gert Mare]

Dear BCC,

We finks we’d better wivdraw are back of a fag packet plannin permission for are new stand as it’s at least firty foot igher than we fought, we ant fought of what to do wiv disableds an that. We might need to nick da floodlights from Gloucester Cricket Club as are pitch is also a bit dark.

Oh, and we might want a stick some soler panels (bout 80 of ‘em. Macky buggers, probably reflect shit loads of light and blind aff a Bristol) to save us from ‘avin to keep loads a fifty pees fer the lectric like.

We’ll knock up a new design on a A4 envelope and fax it to you sometime in the next few munce.

Please let it go frew cuz we ain’t gonna get da Fruit Market fer free after all an weem da gas innit? Up da Gas.

Unlucky da shit.

Yours faifeful and truly,

Tom Gorringe (Gas’ead)

Edited September 28, 2023 by Gert Mare

[kelbcfc]

I suspect that now Bath rugby are having a refit that the pikeys will be sniffing around there.

[Silvio Dante]

Things like this almost make me sorry for them. Genuinely. Imagine this -this - is the high point of your existence. Playing in a laughing stock stadium with a hated management team and players you keep as nobody else wants and this is as good as it gets???

**** me ragged.

 

[Gazred]

8 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Things like this almost make me sorry for them. Genuinely. Imagine this -this - is the high point of your existence. Playing in a laughing stock stadium with a hated management team and players you keep as nobody else wants and this is as good as it gets???

**** me ragged.

 

Deluded...as ever.

[BS3City]

14 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Things like this almost make me sorry for them. Genuinely. Imagine this -this - is the high point of your existence. Playing in a laughing stock stadium with a hated management team and players you keep as nobody else wants and this is as good as it gets???

**** me ragged.

 

Highest number of horses punched.

Highest number of family members "interfered" with.

Highest ever boob cricket score.

Best ever sprinkler system.

The list is endless...

[PhilC]

31 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Things like this almost make me sorry for them. Genuinely. Imagine this -this - is the high point of your existence. Playing in a laughing stock stadium with a hated management team and players you keep as nobody else wants and this is as good as it gets???

**** me ragged.

 

Where to start with that (Unlucky da) shit show.... 

[Laner]

As they're resubmitting the Planning Permission does that me we get the fun of reading all their comments of approval again?

[Son of Fred]

42 minutes ago, BS3City said:

Highest number of horses punched.

Highest number of family members "interfered" with.

Highest ever boob cricket score.

Best ever sprinkler system.

The list is endless...

Guinness book of records for the  babestationathon

[alexukhc]

56 minutes ago, BS3City said:

Highest number of horses punched.

Highest number of family members "interfered" with.

Highest ever boob cricket score.

Best ever sprinkler system.

The list is endless...

Forgot da Fanta 

[Open End Numb Legs]

2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

......bums will be on the seats......

That's no way to talk about your own fans.....

[Lanterne Rouge]

So, I see they are away to Posh on Saturday. I wonder who will be up front for the home side as I doubt Clarke-Harris will be able to play against his parent club.........................................

[Son of Fred]

3 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

once it is finished bums will be on the seats.

I've found a few at work they could be going on with

[Sweeneys Penalties]

2 hours ago, kelbcfc said:

I suspect that now Bath rugby are having a refit that the pikeys will be sniffing around there.

If The Gas are waiting for that, they'll be waiting for ever. Planning permission for The Rec is an endless wash, spin, rinse and repeat cycle. 

Gas would be as welcome in Central Bath as the proverbial Pork Chop. If Bath Rugby get refused a rebuild for the millionth time, it's seriously suggested they'll have to look out of town. West Wiltshire would be a popular alternative 

I can't help but wonder about a rebuild at Trumpton though. 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2023 by Sweeneys Penalties

[Open End Numb Legs]

24 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

So, I see they are away to Posh on Saturday. I wonder who will be up front for the home side as I doubt Clarke-Harris will be able to play against his parent club.........................................

I'd have the Posh run out 15 minutes late.

[City Rocker]

8 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Guessing this is either procedural or to ensure that it now goes through as quickly as possible.

The total naivety of those on here saying that it will be refused & will have to be taken down, they have had someone on the inside with a vested interest who has been pushing this ahead of the usual queues all along. Same thing applies with the Fruit Market project, even though that appears to be dead.

If they were a halfway competent outfit this stand would be in use by now.

I think the unwritten advice from Mayor Rees's team can probably paraphrased something like this.

"Look lads, we're desperate to wave this through for you, but we can't approve it right now because, well, the "application" you've submitted is the most laughably amateurish piece of work we've ever seen. Seriously, what were you thinking?! Embarrassing! We'd be a laughing stock if we let that pass FFS!

"Listen, your best bet is to withdraw the application as soon as possible, before everyone realises the stand you've already built is way bigger than the primitive image you bizarrely tried to get away with on the original form. Sorry, but you're going to have to pay someone to do a proper application, but then we'll be able to get rid of all those inconvenient objections for you. Don't worry about the local residents or the Greens, we'll 'take care' of them, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

You ain't seen me, right? 

[Gazred]

6 minutes ago, City Rocker said:

I think the unwritten advice from Mayor Rees's team can probably paraphrased something like this.

"Look lads, we're desperate to wave this through for you, but we can't approve it right now because, well, the "application" you've submitted is the most laughably amateurish piece of work we've ever seen. Seriously, what were you thinking?! Embarrassing! We'd be a laughing stock if we let that pass FFS!

"Listen, your best bet is to withdraw the application as soon as possible, before everyone realises the stand you've already built is way bigger than the primitive image you bizarrely tried to get away with on the original form. Sorry, but you're going to have to pay someone to do a proper application, but then we'll be able to get rid of all those inconvenient objections for you. Don't worry about the local residents or the Greens, we'll 'take care' of them, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

You ain't seen me, right? 

 

[RedRock]

Jesz… we know they are useless and, having glanced at the original submission, that this saga would drag on way past the closed season, …but I never thought they would make such a hash of things, for so long. 

My guess is the planners, being bombarded with amendments since the original submission, have now decided that the current proposals depart materially from the original proposal. Therefore, they’ve required an entirely new application. 

So, start the clock again. If the claim was originally that the stand was the same size as the one they’ve torn down and what they’ve built is a significantly larger structure this may not be as straightforward as they hope. 

Another delivery of popcorn required. The gift.

[bcfc01]

49 minutes ago, City Rocker said:

I think the unwritten advice from Mayor Rees's team can probably paraphrased something like this.

"Look lads, we're desperate to wave this through for you, but we can't approve it right now because, well, the "application" you've submitted is the most laughably amateurish piece of work we've ever seen. Seriously, what were you thinking?! Embarrassing! We'd be a laughing stock if we let that pass FFS!

"Listen, your best bet is to withdraw the application as soon as possible, before everyone realises the stand you've already built is way bigger than the primitive image you bizarrely tried to get away with on the original form. Sorry, but you're going to have to pay someone to do a proper application, but then we'll be able to get rid of all those inconvenient objections for you. Don't worry about the local residents or the Greens, we'll 'take care' of them, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

You ain't seen me, right? 

Many a true word....

[redsquirrel]

i dont get why its so high anyway, my guess is they planned in feet but ordered metres