alexukhc Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: only 9 months to go at this rate if there werent transfer windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Irrespective of how big a cock he is, there is no recruitment plan that can be deemed good that involves 19/20 first team signings. It’s not like they didn’t have a group of players. Lets see how many are here this time next year. I see this as awful recruitment. Hope it goes horribly wrong. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3City Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Irrespective of how big a cock he is, there is no recruitment plan that can be deemed good that involves 19/20 first team signings. It’s not like they didn’t have a group of players. Lets see how many are here this time next year. I see this as awful recruitment. Hope it goes horribly wrong. Absolutely! How could the existing group have been THAT poor that an additional 19/20 signings were necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Signing 19 players is extraordinary. How can they afford that!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouslastword Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Imagine signing 19 players and thinking you’ve done good business. Can’t wait for this to unfold! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Tbf- they will need all 19 for when the “back on the grass next week” injuries kick in. Hysterical how they’ve all fallen for his “open and honest” communication. if they’re 15th in November, let’s see how “open and honest” he is! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: They’ve just signed another one - Sam Morsy. Decent get that. At last, a player the manager actually asked for! Look out for a quote from Cook along the lines - "When I write my autobiography, I'll have some stories to tell" (copyright L.Johnson) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Robin101 said: Signing 19 players is extraordinary. How can they afford that!? Haven’t they got rid of more than they’ve signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Very unlikely that this new team will gel. Very unlikely tha Cook will stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Imagine Louie Barry and Aston Villa are delighted by this. Penalty clauses? 2 minutes ago, Leveller said: Haven’t they got rid of more than they’ve signed? Not first team players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Their first team squad size is now 27 apparently, on paper it's a ridiculously strong squad for league one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I mean realistically they should go up and at minimum be top 6. Anything other than that and there’s something gone seriously wrong. Pressure is on. Ashton being hailed as a hero but that could soon be challenged if their superstars don’t gel. FYI I think they will be the team to get it together after Christmas and either win the league or come second, after a poor start. I want him to fail but think with Ipswich’s set up, they have to get some success in a fairly competitive league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southend Blue Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 That's it, seems 19 is our limit although why not round it off to a nice 20 ? Just fell one short of a perfect number. I know Mark Ashton is largely rebuked or the devil incarnate over there but really, has played a pivotal part in getting these additions in. Some of our fans while not euphoric are really enthralled by the business done and Ashton is receiving praise from rooftops. I think it's the manager that's holding us back. We could bring in 1, 10, 100 new players if it were possible but when you've got someone who picks the squad, deploys formations and training routines etc who seems at times just about incompetent and more Conference League than the Third Division it does make you worry. It's all about the 'give it time' philosophy. You know, something you could have said 15 years ago when the real fall started except near to nothing was or has been done in the time inbetween. The time ahead is critical. No wins or beaten by a number of arse-hat teams from Morecambe to Newport and not far off the League One relegation spots. We won't go down, I'm sure of it, it can't happen - won't happen - but it's a tall order to bring in 20 new additions and make a complete new team in such a short space of time. Think it just puts more pressure on us than ever before. Pundits and commentators will be perplexed if we don't make the play-offs at very least. Think we've done too much changes in too short a time. Not only the players, but Cook and the Yank ownership takeover with it. There is a big risk this could implode but have to believe this will work out for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 The give it time philosophy. With what he left here, i admre you optimism. All these signing, and the rather loud entrance. The americans and mr ashton, have invited pressure. How many of the 20 will be good enough for the leauge above, if you cant even beat newport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 hours ago, ohhhshauntaylor said: Tbf- they will need all 19 for when the “back on the grass next week” injuries kick in. Hysterical how they’ve all fallen for his “open and honest” communication. if they’re 15th in November, let’s see how “open and honest” he is! Injuries already have kicked in for them .. Paul cooks hoping over international break they get injured players back( whether that's long term injury or recent this season) and the squad trains hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Robin101 said: Signing 19 players is extraordinary. How can they afford that!? That's a lot of hamstrings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: His wife (ex-wife) has a company doing travel, house hunting etc for pro footballers….creaming money out of football. I’d love to see the detailed accounts of a couple of his other businesses. Id love to see the money trail of some of our deals over the years too! Would imagine, if he was that smart, he would have a side business setup in Hamstring rehab? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: What the actual **** . He is the master of autofellatio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Southend Blue said: That's it, seems 19 is our limit although why not round it off to a nice 20 ? Just fell one short of a perfect number. I know Mark Ashton is largely rebuked or the devil incarnate over there but really, has played a pivotal part in getting these additions in. Some of our fans while not euphoric are really enthralled by the business done and Ashton is receiving praise from rooftops. I think it's the manager that's holding us back. We could bring in 1, 10, 100 new players if it were possible but when you've got someone who picks the squad, deploys formations and training routines etc who seems at times just about incompetent and more Conference League than the Third Division it does make you worry. It's all about the 'give it time' philosophy. You know, something you could have said 15 years ago when the real fall started except near to nothing was or has been done in the time inbetween. The time ahead is critical. No wins or beaten by a number of arse-hat teams from Morecambe to Newport and not far off the League One relegation spots. We won't go down, I'm sure of it, it can't happen - won't happen - but it's a tall order to bring in 20 new additions and make a complete new team in such a short space of time. Think it just puts more pressure on us than ever before. Pundits and commentators will be perplexed if we don't make the play-offs at very least. Think we've done too much changes in too short a time. Not only the players, but Cook and the Yank ownership takeover with it. There is a big risk this could implode but have to believe this will work out for the better. Of course your fans are enthralled. Signing players is exciting and gives you hope. You’ve signed 19 so are going to be buzzing. No ones ever doubted Ashtons ability to get deals done - he signed many players here too and got our Fam base excited for the season ahead. That doesn’t mean this is a god thing though. Signing 10 players is too many in a window but 19?! Regardless of their quality, how is Cook meant to gel a team there and keep everyone happy. It’s bizarre. At BCFC, we’re now taking a different approach with Pearson being keen on a smaller, tighter, more competitive squad and we’re starting to see some positives with that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 “Welcome to transfer scattergun, a new game show devised and hosted by Mark Ashton.” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, B-Rizzle said: Of course your fans are enthralled. Signing players is exciting and gives you hope. You’ve signed 19 so are going to be buzzing. No ones ever doubted Ashtons ability to get deals done - he signed many players here too and got our Fam base excited for the season ahead. That doesn’t mean this is a god thing though. Signing 10 players is too many in a window but 19?! Regardless of their quality, how is Cook meant to gel a team there and keep everyone happy. It’s bizarre. At BCFC, we’re now taking a different approach with Pearson being keen on a smaller, tighter, more competitive squad and we’re starting to see some positives with that now. I see what you did there! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Southend Blue said: I think it's the manager that's holding us back. We could bring in 1, 10, 100 new players if it were possible but when you've got someone who picks the squad, deploys formations and training routines etc who seems at times just about incompetent and more Conference League than the Third Division it does make you worry.. ….and this For me is where you have your thinking all wrong, the horse and cart the wrong way round. If Cook is the problem, get rid of him, don’t lavish him with players. Or get players that Cook wants. As CEO you should be providing the checks that each signing meets the managers requirements? To me this is CEO failure and manager failure. Never in a million years can 19/20 players be a good window. Recruitment is not about volume….it’s about quality over quantity. It’s about a plan. Source: ITFC Analytics - I’ve added red shading to the new players. I still can’t get my head around that. Why would you sign Barry, Edwards then go and get Celina? This had the hallmarks of us signing Szmodics because we couldn’t get Palmer, then Palmer becomes available, so you get him as well. Do you honestly believe several of those players signed earlier this summer as first team regulars, and thought Ashton would be signing another in their position later in the window? Most of your signings will have signed expecting to play each week. Did Fraser sign expecting Chaplin to steal his minutes? What was the plan for Evans, Carroll and Harper if Morsy was genuinely the plan? The players themselves are in the main good players at this level, some very good, but it is gonna stink when you get a busted dressing room / training ground. Did you need to loan Dobra out? I guess time will tell, but I’d be horrified if we made that many signings. A cynic might suggest you let players go so the CEO could have his ego massaged by the thrill of lots of signings. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Southend Blue said: That's it, seems 19 is our limit although why not round it off to a nice 20 ? Just fell one short of a perfect number. I know Mark Ashton is largely rebuked or the devil incarnate over there but really, has played a pivotal part in getting these additions in. Some of our fans while not euphoric are really enthralled by the business done and Ashton is receiving praise from rooftops. I think it's the manager that's holding us back. We could bring in 1, 10, 100 new players if it were possible but when you've got someone who picks the squad, deploys formations and training routines etc who seems at times just about incompetent and more Conference League than the Third Division it does make you worry. It's all about the 'give it time' philosophy. You know, something you could have said 15 years ago when the real fall started except near to nothing was or has been done in the time inbetween. The time ahead is critical. No wins or beaten by a number of arse-hat teams from Morecambe to Newport and not far off the League One relegation spots. We won't go down, I'm sure of it, it can't happen - won't happen - but it's a tall order to bring in 20 new additions and make a complete new team in such a short space of time. Think it just puts more pressure on us than ever before. Pundits and commentators will be perplexed if we don't make the play-offs at very least. Think we've done too much changes in too short a time. Not only the players, but Cook and the Yank ownership takeover with it. There is a big risk this could implode but have to believe this will work out for the better. The parallel is here for you. City spent multimillions and ended up dumping a dozen players a couple of months ago after having been easily and statistically the worst team in the division for months. The bloke while not fully responsible (LJ and to a much lesser extent Holden carry their share of the blame as does SL AND JL) he was the CEO and as such he was in charge. Almost the same things are now happening at Ipswich as they did here. I am not at all confident for the future of your club with this man anywhere near the board room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Southend Blue said: That's it, seems 19 is our limit although why not round it off to a nice 20 ? Just fell one short of a perfect number. I know Mark Ashton is largely rebuked or the devil incarnate over there but really, has played a pivotal part in getting these additions in. Some of our fans while not euphoric are really enthralled by the business done and Ashton is receiving praise from rooftops. I think it's the manager that's holding us back. We could bring in 1, 10, 100 new players if it were possible but when you've got someone who picks the squad, deploys formations and training routines etc who seems at times just about incompetent and more Conference League than the Third Division it does make you worry. It's all about the 'give it time' philosophy. You know, something you could have said 15 years ago when the real fall started except near to nothing was or has been done in the time inbetween. The time ahead is critical. No wins or beaten by a number of arse-hat teams from Morecambe to Newport and not far off the League One relegation spots. We won't go down, I'm sure of it, it can't happen - won't happen - but it's a tall order to bring in 20 new additions and make a complete new team in such a short space of time. Think it just puts more pressure on us than ever before. Pundits and commentators will be perplexed if we don't make the play-offs at very least. Think we've done too much changes in too short a time. Not only the players, but Cook and the Yank ownership takeover with it. There is a big risk this could implode but have to believe this will work out for the better. Oh you are in for a surprise..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 14 hours ago, Southend Blue said: That's it, seems 19 is our limit although why not round it off to a nice 20 ? Just fell one short of a perfect number. I know Mark Ashton is largely rebuked or the devil incarnate over there but really, has played a pivotal part in getting these additions in. Some of our fans while not euphoric are really enthralled by the business done and Ashton is receiving praise from rooftops. Quantity over quality. A rooftop is a high place from which to fall. When Ashton is inevitably found out, will he jump or will the owners give him a good shove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Davefevs said: ….and this For me is where you have your thinking all wrong, the horse and cart the wrong way round. If Cook is the problem, get rid of him, don’t lavish him with players. Or get players that Cook wants. As CEO you should be providing the checks that each signing meets the managers requirements? To me this is CEO failure and manager failure. Never in a million years can 19/20 players be a good window. Recruitment is not about volume….it’s about quality over quantity. It’s about a plan. Source: ITFC Analytics - I’ve added red shading to the new players. I still can’t get my head around that. Why would you sign Barry, Edwards then go and get Celina? This had the hallmarks of us signing Szmodics because we couldn’t get Palmer, then Palmer becomes available, so you get him as well. Do you honestly believe several of those players signed earlier this summer as first team regulars, and thought Ashton would be signing another in their position later in the window? Most of your signings will have signed expecting to play each week. Did Fraser sign expecting Chaplin to steal his minutes? What was the plan for Evans, Carroll and Harper if Morsy was genuinely the plan? The players themselves are in the main good players at this level, some very good, but it is gonna stink when you get a busted dressing room / training ground. Did you need to loan Dobra out? I guess time will tell, but I’d be horrified if we made that many signings. A cynic might suggest you let players go so the CEO could have his ego massaged by the thrill of lots of signings. What interests me is that 13 of those 27 are out of contract next year, as well. You could easily end up with 30 signings over a 2 year period. Crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I saw a thread on their Fans Forum yesterday (not many posts) but they can't get enough of Ashton after all the deals he's done. One fan even mentioned he couldn't understand our view of him or something like that. Certainly an Ashton love in at the moment. I'm in the move on camp, but i'll be interesting to see how it all unfolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: What interests me is that 13 of those 27 are out of contract next year, as well. You could easily end up with 30 signings over a 2 year period. Crazy. Abolutely, and of those 13 look how many are in what's supposed to be their prime years 25 to 29. If they don't make the grade they're going to be expensive to replace and if they're not replaced the squad takes on an even higher average age. The January transfer window could see as much activity as this one. Crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I’m confused; is it one or two ingredients? Time or patience? Cook isn’t going to last long, it pains Ashton to say his name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Henry said: I’m confused; is it one or two ingredients? Time or patience? Cook isn’t going to last long, it pains Ashton to say his name. Ah yes, the traditional follow up interview while things appear to be going well. In three months when the situation still looks dicey it will be Cooks face in the interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman_Red Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Fordy62 said: “Welcome to transfer scattergun, a new game show devised and hosted by Mark Ashton.” I'm sorry Mark, I just don't understand this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davefevs Posted September 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2021 The highlight for me was (paraphrased) - i had to call all my contacts to do these deals. Basically I read that to mean that they’ve recruited based on player agents rather than player fit to the plan.. Smells of brown envelope recruitment to me. Must stop getting so angry because he’s no longer here….but he’s left us in a shit position, and I can’t forgive that from a bloke who took £540k salary (wages and pension) from us in 19/20, and undoubtedly a similar amount last year whilst metaphorically ******* us over. 25 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Henry said: I’m confused; is it one or two ingredients? Time or patience? Cook isn’t going to last long, it pains Ashton to say his name. Jeez that guy and his spin machine is on full throttle. Absolute bluffer who will hopefully crash & burn ASAP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Good job they haven't yet developed smellyvision, as the smell of BS from that clip would be overpowering - bloke is a human turd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Ashtons move to Ipswich is the most important 'transfer' in City's recent history. Hard to believe that there could have been any single individual bought or sold that could have changed the club's fortune so much Watching this go tits up will make for fascinating viewing 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Henry said: He speaks with a forked tongue: “Look, it’s not about me …” translates to: “It’s ALL about me”. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Henry said: I’m confused; is it one or two ingredients? Time or patience? Cook isn’t going to last long, it pains Ashton to say his name. 'Paul (Cook) was clear, the very first time I met him just before I started here....' Well that isn't true is it Mark...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdc Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/517142/brizzle-city-fans-what-exactly-is-their-beef-with-ashton-(n-t)/#5 Anybody fancy bring that friendly city fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 'Me, me, me, me'. Slimy ba5tard! Edited September 1, 2021 by Ska Junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Mark Ashton is the most deluded bloke in the world. Not Ipswich. Not football. Not even any sport. HE IS LITERALLY THE MOST DELUDED MAN IN THE WORLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, boatman said: https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/517142/brizzle-city-fans-what-exactly-is-their-beef-with-ashton-(n-t)/#5 Anybody fancy bring that friendly city fan? Haha laughable, to the Ipswich fans reading this.. post this on your forum FOUR successful signings out of SIXTY EIGHT credir @Davefevs Edited September 1, 2021 by Marcus Aurelius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Davefevs said: ….and this For me is where you have your thinking all wrong, the horse and cart the wrong way round. If Cook is the problem, get rid of him, don’t lavish him with players. Or get players that Cook wants. As CEO you should be providing the checks that each signing meets the managers requirements? To me this is CEO failure and manager failure. Never in a million years can 19/20 players be a good window. Recruitment is not about volume….it’s about quality over quantity. It’s about a plan. Source: ITFC Analytics - I’ve added red shading to the new players. I still can’t get my head around that. Why would you sign Barry, Edwards then go and get Celina? This had the hallmarks of us signing Szmodics because we couldn’t get Palmer, then Palmer becomes available, so you get him as well. Do you honestly believe several of those players signed earlier this summer as first team regulars, and thought Ashton would be signing another in their position later in the window? Most of your signings will have signed expecting to play each week. Did Fraser sign expecting Chaplin to steal his minutes? What was the plan for Evans, Carroll and Harper if Morsy was genuinely the plan? The players themselves are in the main good players at this level, some very good, but it is gonna stink when you get a busted dressing room / training ground. Did you need to loan Dobra out? I guess time will tell, but I’d be horrified if we made that many signings. A cynic might suggest you let players go so the CEO could have his ego massaged by the thrill of lots of signings. Won't achieve anything with Charlie Chaplin in CM alongside one of the Nolan sisters.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) I’ve registered. In for a penny, in for a pound -just waiting to be activated Edited September 1, 2021 by Davefevs 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 21 hours ago, Southend Blue said: That's it, seems 19 is our limit although why not round it off to a nice 20 ? Just fell one short of a perfect number. I know Mark Ashton is largely rebuked or the devil incarnate over there but really, has played a pivotal part in getting these additions in. Some of our fans while not euphoric are really enthralled by the business done and Ashton is receiving praise from rooftops. I think it's the manager that's holding us back. We could bring in 1, 10, 100 new players if it were possible but when you've got someone who picks the squad, deploys formations and training routines etc who seems at times just about incompetent and more Conference League than the Third Division it does make you worry. It's all about the 'give it time' philosophy. You know, something you could have said 15 years ago when the real fall started except near to nothing was or has been done in the time inbetween. The time ahead is critical. No wins or beaten by a number of arse-hat teams from Morecambe to Newport and not far off the League One relegation spots. We won't go down, I'm sure of it, it can't happen - won't happen - but it's a tall order to bring in 20 new additions and make a complete new team in such a short space of time. Think it just puts more pressure on us than ever before. Pundits and commentators will be perplexed if we don't make the play-offs at very least. Think we've done too much changes in too short a time. Not only the players, but Cook and the Yank ownership takeover with it. There is a big risk this could implode but have to believe this will work out for the better. If you let TWTD know I’ve registered and they activate me, I’ll add my thoughts tomorrow. No bed wetting, just a fair few facts mixed with opinions and viewpoints from people who know how he operates. No jealousy, just a bit of anger over how he operated and the poor position he left my club in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: Haha laughable, to the Ipswich fans reading this.. post this on your forum FOUR successful signings out of SIXTY EIGHT credir @Davefevs That's not right. How can you say Tammy wasn't successful for example? @Davefevswhat actually is the colour coding? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Selred said: That's not right. How can you say Tammy wasn't successful for example? @Davefevswhat actually is the colour coding? Players we bought….not loaned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 The man said he has people writing letters to him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, boatman said: https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/517142/brizzle-city-fans-what-exactly-is-their-beef-with-ashton-(n-t)/#5 Anybody fancy bring that friendly city fan? I used to quite like Ipswich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 minute ago, David Brent said: I used to quite like Ipswich I’d keep that quiet. They won’t like their new CEO speaking like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, petehinton said: The man said he has people writing letters to him "Hey Mark, wanna make a quick seventy five grand if you sign my guy?" 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, petehinton said: The man said he has people writing letters to him Funny how he can even put a spin on getting his p45 from us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, petehinton said: The man said he has people writing letters to him So did Jim'll Fix It..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Oh dear. They really don’t know what’s going to hit them do they. Ipswich fans moaning about their previous owners not being able to maintain the floodlights …..tell you, it would have been a blessing if the friggin floodlights went out in most of our games under Ashton’s command. His only achievement after 4 years tenure was to have made me fall out of love with the ‘beautiful game’…. something no previous regime had achieved in 50 years - even when we were bottom of the entire league. No, Ipswich you’re more than welcome to Ashton and his people. Don’t say we didn’t warn you. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 After a rigorous process I come to realise this guy is a total narcissist. Poor Ipswich do not realise what this guy will do to the club. Paul Cook is going to need all the luck he can get. I despise Mark Ashton 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Mark, look, we'd like to offer you a very generous redundancy package. Are you offering it to me, or telling me I have to take it. We're telling you you have to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) If Ipswich fans want a simple metric as to why we despise Marky-boy, it's the following. - We were 23rd in this division, when he took reigns as CEO. He was in an advisory position previous to that when Keith Dawe was Chairman, bless that man, who planned and initialised the stadium and training ground plans that Ashton ultimately took credit for. - At the point MA left we were 20th - however: - Never connected with fans; no updates or news from the club with regards to general communications when things were not going well. - Sacked well liked media staff members among others under NDAs (same as he did at Watford). - Net transfer spending and wages were up £35m and 50% per annum respectively, leaving us in a lack FFP shit-pile having been solvent he previous 3-4 year period with outgoings. - Signing players with no regard to tactics or playstyle, scattergun recruitment, leading to a bloated squad, and horrific club culture across most levels. - Inept staffing (fitness), plus managerial appointment(s). Holden, good coach, should never have been named manager after an 8 week search. Ultimately, in terms of every remit where he had targets to hit as a CEO, and with the level of backing he had. He failed - badly. None too gracefully either, and made a few tongue in cheek comments also, as well as outright lies on multiple occasions. I find the Tractor Boys forum thread discussing us also ironic, in whereby they claim we have no idea what it was like for them under Clegg. No shit lads. Pot Kettle Black, etc. Think we have this vendetta against him for fun? By and large seem confused whereby they seem to think we're the only club ran afoul of by MA. His time at Watford is well documented by the same issues, I.e. disagreeing with managers, not connecting with fans, NDAs to longstanding clubs staff to appoint his own 'people'. https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/3995357.oliver-phillips-reflects-on-the-departure-of-mark-ashton-from-watford/ Literally one of the first returns on Google. Not exactly 'hidden'. All we're saying, is take the man never at face value, with a massive pinch of salt, and don't get carried away. @Davefevs @Mr Popodopolous Out of interest, Not 100% clued up on the L1 FFP requirements, but where did Ipswich position in regards to the latter for the last couple of season, and what impact would the change in ownership have? "I suspect it is something we will discover for ourselves in the future. In short, Ashton works with sustaining the books, so our best players may be sold quite regularly to finance the future of the club. I presume with Bristol, he may have been a bit too heavy on his sustainable approach. However, over the long term, it seems to have improved them." Oh sweet summer child, if only you knew the complete absolute clusterfudge our finances were now in compared to where they were 3 years ago... Edited September 2, 2021 by Fuber 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Journalist Posted September 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) I mean, I guess you need to be careful not to tar everyone with the same brush, but the determination across the board that the problem is us and not him is bizarre. It’s actually frightening. I’ve never heard a nice word said about Ashton from anyone within football who has dealt with him at any point. Ever. His conduct at Watford is well documented - literally in black and white for public consumption - and, while he’s been given due credit for getting good value for outgoing players, as such there’s ALWAYS been a sense of caution around him. Long before the shit really hit the fan. I’m genuinely staggered, then, that any Ipswich fan really thinks we have a vendetta all because he failed to deliver promotion to a division we apparently “believe” we belong in despite never having been there. That any disdain has no real merit. That, as I’ve even read, it is merely born out of a jealously he left us for a mid-table League One club. As Nigel would say... “Are you an ostrich?” And I promised myself I wouldn’t get involved! Edited September 2, 2021 by The Journalist 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 6 hours ago, petehinton said: The man said he has people writing letters to him Are those letters FFS FO? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: Players we bought….not loaned. How do you define successful? I'd say Pato, Wright were successful for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I would like somebody in the media to ask the direct question to Lansdown snr or jnr was it a club decision to run the contracts down on all the players who left at the end of last season. Or was it their understanding that certain players were signing extended contracts. To my knowledge we’ve heard Ashton’s stance on it but not from the club itself , unless I’m wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, daored said: I would like somebody in the media to ask the direct question to Lansdown snr or jnr was it a club decision to run the contracts down on all the players who left at the end of last season. Or was it their understanding that certain players were signing extended contracts. To my knowledge we’ve heard Ashton’s stance on it but not from the club itself , unless I’m wrong ? Just let it go, worked out ok for us in the end, except famara going for nothing. Be happy where we are heading and let it go! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Selred said: How do you define successful? I'd say Pato, Wright were successful for example. Indeed. Successful is subjective in some cases. I have no love for Ashton but the hit rate is nowhere near as bad as that chart is suggesting. It may be better worked with some “jury out” colouring but it’s also harsh to say Massengo, Williams (Ashley - on the basis of a free and did a solid job), Taylor (see price paid vs contribution), Weimann, Paterson etc aren’t successes based on overall club contribution. I’d also not say Ty is an unqualified success. To look at “success” from another angle here, take Szmodics. Didn’t look good enough to me but we made a profit on him. Not a signing I’d make (and I think it was an Ashton signing to try and appreciate value), but do we argue it’s not a success when it’s made cash? Theres plenty to hang Ashton on without going into something so subjective 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Fuber said: "I suspect it is something we will discover for ourselves in the future. In short, Ashton works with sustaining the books, so our best players may be sold quite regularly to finance the future of the club. I presume with Bristol, he may have been a bit too heavy on his sustainable approach. However, over the long term, it seems to have improved them." Oh sweet summer child, if only you knew the complete absolute clusterfudge our finances were now in compared to where they were 3 years ago... A bit too heavy? How can he have been a" bit too heavy on his sustainable approach” when we saw escalating losses, despite making huge profits on the sale of the likes of Flint, Reid, Bryan and Kelly, primarily because he amassed a bloated squad, compromising too many average players consuming a huge wage bill. To compound the problem he allowed 10 players’ contracts to finish this summer, so that all left without the club being able to recoup a penny in transfer fees, one of whom was our then record signing at £5m. Obviously Ipswich fans paid no attention to the last 2 years when they say that he improved us “in the long term”. Going back to the earlier part of his time here, when we sold Flint and replaced him with Webster and when, despite selling Reid and Bryan, we sustained our position at the top end of the table I think many felt that he was doing a good job and looked past the corporate speak (bolux). However, it gradually became clear that many of MA’s pigeons were coming home to roost during the latter part of LJ’s time and especially with the appointment of Holden as his replacement. Finally, what’s this about “ his sustainability approach”. I can only assume that MA is now taking credit for introducing what was always SL’s strategy! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Henry said: I’m confused; is it one or two ingredients? Time or patience? Cook isn’t going to last long, it pains Ashton to say his name. What a smug oily bell sniff. No need to open the door for him, he will just slide underneath it. Couldn't even bring myself to watch the interview. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 31/08/2021 at 22:54, Robin101 said: Signing 19 players is extraordinary. How can they afford that!? Only 3 players cost them money, the rest were freebies and loans. I see Wes Burns was one of the new signings and they got rid of Cole Skuse and James Wilson. Some Ipswich fans are saying they have "the best squad in L1 history" and hope to get 100 points this season, they actually mention our title season and they hope to emulate that. Trouble is they've had no pre-season with most of the players so could take them until Christmas to work out their best eleven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Only 3 players cost them money, the rest were freebies and loans. I see Wes Burns was one of the new signings and they got rid of Cole Skuse and James Wilson. Some Ipswich fans are saying they have "the best squad in L1 history" and hope to get 100 points this season, they actually mention our title season and they hope to emulate that. Trouble is they've had no pre-season with most of the players so could take them until Christmas to work out their best eleven. Not just Wilson and Skuse, but higher earners such as Chambers and Sears, together with making a couple of million on Downes and Dozzell. They’re probably fine FFP wise this year, it’s when there’s no family silver left to sell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE23Red Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Indeed. Successful is subjective in some cases. I have no love for Ashton but the hit rate is nowhere near as bad as that chart is suggesting. It may be better worked with some “jury out” colouring but it’s also harsh to say Massengo, Williams (Ashley - on the basis of a free and did a solid job), Taylor (see price paid vs contribution), Weimann, Paterson etc aren’t successes based on overall club contribution. I’d also not say Ty is an unqualified success. To look at “success” from another angle here, take Szmodics. Didn’t look good enough to me but we made a profit on him. Not a signing I’d make (and I think it was an Ashton signing to try and appreciate value), but do we argue it’s not a success when it’s made cash? Theres plenty to hang Ashton on without going into something so subjective Agreed. There are two different ways to analyse the chart. Row by row, trying to establish if a deal was good or bad misses the point IMO. What is most telling to me is the length of it. Nobody will ever convince me we needed to do that much business during his tenure. Especially considering when he joined us we had a close-knit squad of players with recent success, though at the level below. Now he has left we find ourselves rebuilding a squad identity he and LJ destroyed with the revolving door 'strategy'. If he were as good as he thinks he is he'd have had the success without the volume. Edited September 2, 2021 by SE23Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: If you let TWTD know I’ve registered and they activate me, I’ll add my thoughts tomorrow. No bed wetting, just a fair few facts mixed with opinions and viewpoints from people who know how he operates. No jealousy, just a bit of anger over how he operated and the poor position he left my club in. I'm not sure I'd bother if I were you! Having read a few of their threads this morning they are, in the main, poorly aware of the goings on at Bristol City (although, frankly, who can blame them?!) and in their blissful ignorance determined to enjoy a love-in....which is of course their prerogative. We are - it seems - 'classic bitter fans' as frustrated as we would be if one of our better players had left. That's a strange logic but hey ho...personally I'm delighted to see the back of him. His departure was certainly my champagne moment. Edited September 2, 2021 by Red Exile 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, frenchred said: Just let it go, worked out ok for us in the end, except famara going for nothing. Be happy where we are heading and let it go! I’m not sure how’s it’s worked out better for us to honest. Appreciate positive from a wage cull but with covid losses and £X amount of millions of players leaving the club for nothing has restricted us in the market in terms of who we can bring in with FFP restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 45 minutes ago, supercidered said: What a smug oily bell sniff. No need to open the door for him, he will just slide underneath it. Couldn't even bring myself to watch the interview. I managed 10 seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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