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1 hour ago, Moments of Pleasure said:

Dave, surely it's :  Cook, the Thief (Ashton) his wife and Lover Johnson (two-fingered end)? 

If they sign Helen Mirren as well I’ll go and watch 

58 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

Who gives a shite?

It’s a football forum so people discuss various topics that may not be of interest to everyone 

47 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

It will actually be interesting to see who Ashton goes for as he certainly didn't appoint Johnson, Holden or Pearson whilst he was here. All SL choices.

Appleton is presumably high on the list. 

I wonder if they may try and get John Terry in, which I personally think could be a very good appointment. 

Would John Terry want to go there? You know better than I 

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9 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

I love now the Ipswich fans think Ashton has a quick appointment lined up.

Absolutely desperate for promotion this season, that club. Wonder what the implications of failure are with their wage bill

Ashton's own words were:

"At this moment, there is no one lined up to replace Paul. There will be an extensive search to find the best replacement for the club.”

So a rigorous 6 weeks ahead then.

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1 minute ago, pongo88 said:

If they sign Helen Mirren as well I’ll go and watch 

It’s a football forum so people discuss various topics that may not be of interest to everyone 

Would John Terry want to go there? You know better than I 

Maybe but he's nobody's puppet. Let's face it Ashton would be scared sh1tless!

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Ipswich fans can wish for whoever they like but football people do talk to each other. Do they seriously think that Ryan Lowe for instance won`t give Paul Cook a ring before he decides if he wants the job or not?

Ashton`s reputation precedes him.

An interesting one would be Chris Hughton. He was saying on the Yeovil v Stevenage coverage that he`s ready to come back if the right job came up.

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53 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

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? indeed. I can fill you in a little. 
Nors used to play at Forest Green a few years back (I’d actually done a number of scout reports on him back then, 2012-14). I’ve got a few contacts from those days who are still in touch with Nors, as well a couple of folks in the industry who are very close to Paul Cook. 
I’m reliably informed this evening that there was a fair bit of interference in the dressing room - not just from Ashton, but another person who is close to Ashton (not Werhun, someone else). Not a ‘football’ person either. 

Oh, and Andy Rolls is SERIOUSLY not liked!!! 
 

Can’t wait to hear some more ?

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7 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Ipswich fans can wish for whoever they like but football people do talk to each other. Do they seriously think that Ryan Lowe for instance won`t give Paul Cook a ring before he decides if he wants the job or not?

Ashton`s reputation precedes him.

An interesting one would be Chris Hughton. He was saying on the Yeovil v Stevenage coverage that he`s ready to come back if the right job came up.

Chris Hughton will surely just think back to summer 2020 and ask - eighteen months ago you thought Dean Holden was better than me, bye (polite).

Just now, Harry said:

? indeed. I can fill you in a little. 
Nors used to play at Forest Green a few years back (I’d actually done a number of scout reports on him back then, 2012-14). I’ve got a few contacts from those days who are still in touch with Nors, as well a couple of folks who are very close to Paul Cook. 
I’m reliably informed this evening that there was a fair bit of interference in the dressing room - not just from Ashton, but another person who is close to Ashton (not Werhun, someone else). Not a ‘football’ person either. 

Oh, and Andy Rolls is SERIOUSLY not liked!!! 
 

Can’t wait to hear some more ?

O’Leary?

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2 minutes ago, Harry said:

? indeed. I can fill you in a little. 
Nors used to play at Forest Green a few years back (I’d actually done a number of scout reports on him back then, 2012-14). I’ve got a few contacts from those days who are still in touch with Nors, as well a couple of folks in the industry who are very close to Paul Cook. 
I’m reliably informed this evening that there was a fair bit of interference in the dressing room - not just from Ashton, but another person who is close to Ashton (not Werhun, someone else). Not a ‘football’ person either. 

Oh, and Andy Rolls is SERIOUSLY not liked!!! 
 

Can’t wait to hear some more ?

I have no inside knowledge at all, but none of that surprises me in the slightest.

Cook is better off out of it.

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9 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Chris Hughton will surely just think back to summer 2020 and ask - eighteen months ago you thought Dean Holden was better than me, bye (polite).

O’Leary?

Nope. Even less of a ‘football’ person than O’Leary!

 

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14 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

There are some brilliant suggestions on their forum as to who would want to manage their midtable third division club:

Jokanovic

Bruce

OGS

Champ play off, Robins

Lampard

 

 

But they will be competing with the Gas for them when Joey is sacked surely?

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20 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

There are some brilliant suggestions on their forum as to who would want to manage their midtable third division club:

Jokanovic

Bruce

OGS

Champ play off, Robins

Lampard

 

 

I think the time has come for Swiss Tony to take the final step in his management career and take charge himself.

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4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I think the time has come for Swiss Tony to take the final step in his management career and take charge himself.

Managing a football club is like making love to a beautiful woman...

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59 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Would John Terry want to go there? You know better than I 

He's on a kind of one year sabbatical at the moment. So it may be a bit too early for him. Personally, I think he has all the attributes to become a top coach. 

Ipswich presents a decent opportunity for him, but it's true he may well get better offers. 

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50 minutes ago, Harry said:

? indeed. I can fill you in a little. 
Nors used to play at Forest Green a few years back (I’d actually done a number of scout reports on him back then, 2012-14). I’ve got a few contacts from those days who are still in touch with Nors, as well a couple of folks in the industry who are very close to Paul Cook. 
I’m reliably informed this evening that there was a fair bit of interference in the dressing room - not just from Ashton, but another person who is close to Ashton (not Werhun, someone else). Not a ‘football’ person either. 

Oh, and Andy Rolls is SERIOUSLY not liked!!! 
 

Can’t wait to hear some more ?

As you know, I have a contact that knows Cook's agent (Irish). I literally cannot wait to hear his side of the story ?

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53 minutes ago, Harry said:

? indeed. I can fill you in a little. 
Nors used to play at Forest Green a few years back (I’d actually done a number of scout reports on him back then, 2012-14). I’ve got a few contacts from those days who are still in touch with Nors, as well a couple of folks in the industry who are very close to Paul Cook. 
I’m reliably informed this evening that there was a fair bit of interference in the dressing room - not just from Ashton, but another person who is close to Ashton (not Werhun, someone else). Not a ‘football’ person either. 

Oh, and Andy Rolls is SERIOUSLY not liked!!! 
 

Can’t wait to hear some more ?

I really have nothing against Ipswich as a club but I’m so ******* glad that ***** ain’t with us no more. 
look at the ******* fall out we’re still dealing with because of him 

but that *** is a millionaire through his bullshit . Unreal really 

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2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

I really have nothing against Ipswich as a club but I’m so ******* glad that ***** ain’t with us no more. 
look at the ******* fall out we’re still dealing with because of him 

but that *** is a millionaire through his bullshit . Unreal really 

Really hope we get them in the cup at home (if they beat Barrow) , knowing that piece of shit he wouldn’t attend 

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19 minutes ago, daored said:

Really hope we get them in the cup at home (if they beat Barrow) , knowing that piece of shit he wouldn’t attend 

He’d be nowhere near it. 
anyone like watching the simpsons. ? Ashton coming back would be like the end of the monorail episode 

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Ahhhhhhhh, got you!  Oh dear.  Now that would seriously annoy the manager and players.

Oooh do tell 

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2 hours ago, REDOXO said:

I AM NOT LJs number one fan by any extent. But Sunderland are third in touching distance of top spot and are still in a cup. 
 

Lord knows what Sunderland supporters want. They are where they are because they have been awful for years, not due to a bad performance today allegedly. Anyone worth his salt knows that place is a no win job! Lunatics. 

Not being funny, but city fans were like that with LJ when we were knocking about the play offs probably well above our station in most neutrals eyes. 

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I think the yanks who took over (or some representation) may have been in attendance today and took time to survey the 6,000 in attendance as hoof balls were played often and we huffed and puffed to a  0 - 0  draw at home to the mighty Barrow FC.     At some stage a Eureka moment occurred and they decided Paul Cook was dogshit here and went the way of the fans who decided to stay away and put their own plan into operation.

Cook should never have been given the job to begin with.   Lambert was a disaster, in fact they've all been failures going back to the mid 2000's apart from one or two seasons with McCarthy and even then that isn't really saying much.

This isn't a time for anger, I can see a window of opportunity ahead.    OK we didn't win today what should have been a simple victory but are still in the F.A. Cup and think the replay is on BBC terrestrial television which is something.     Cook was poor, in fact he was shit, pure and simple if I may add, but as of today he's no longer my or our club name responsibility.     Had his personal issues such as family bereavement in recent months and while truly sorry (for that) and extend sympathy then and now, as a managerial figure with us at least, he got out of his depth in a relatively short time.  

 

 

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14 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

 

Oooh do tell 

 

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Harry’s the man to say, not me.

Yeah, I don’t wanna give the identity of the individual to be honest, probably not right and fair to that person who, as far as I know, isn’t in the public eye, and likely isn’t actually to blame! 

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https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/524079/page:1

The penny is dropping for some of them!

But my favourite comment:

"Nobody has had their head stuck in the sand over Ashton. Some people prefer to take people as they find them, rather than rely on the views of a bunch of weird Bristol City window lickers whose club has not exactly roared up the league since he left."

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19 minutes ago, !james said:

https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/524079/page:1

The penny is dropping for some of them!

But my favourite comment:

"Nobody has had their head stuck in the sand over Ashton. Some people prefer to take people as they find them, rather than rely on the views of a bunch of weird Bristol City window lickers whose club has not exactly roared up the league since he left."

So that simpleton doesn’t understand that the biggest issue with Ashton is that the problems his type cause aren’t just immediate but are the type that get embedded in the club and take years to rectify. They deserve everything they get if they’re too stupid to see that for themselves.

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18 minutes ago, !james said:

https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/524079/page:1

The penny is dropping for some of them!

But my favourite comment:

"Nobody has had their head stuck in the sand over Ashton. Some people prefer to take people as they find them, rather than rely on the views of a bunch of weird Bristol City window lickers whose club has not exactly roared up the league since he left."

If will take until about this time next season, when their annual accounts come out for this season, and they (the fans) realise how much their losses have grown.

And you can bet even at this stage the Pension Fund / Gamechanger won’t be that happy.  There’s no money to be made in Lg1, and bigger losses in the Champ, but it’s the gateway to the PL…and you can bet this was a get out of Lg1 this season, one year in Champ consolidation, then PL push in season 3.  They are behind the curve.

You could imagine Cook probably wanted the odd tweak in January, a new boss will probably want more money spent.

Not going well is it.

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5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

If will take until about this time next season, when their annual accounts come out for this season, and they (the fans) realise how much their losses have grown.

And you can bet even at this stage the Pension Fund / Gamechanger won’t be that happy.  There’s no money to be made in Lg1, and bigger losses in the Champ, but it’s the gateway to the PL…and you can bet this was a get out of Lg1 this season, one year in Champ consolidation, then PL push in season 3.  They are behind the curve.

You could imagine Cook probably wanted the odd tweak in January, a new boss will probably want more money spent.

Not going well is it.

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47 minutes ago, !james said:

https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/524079/page:1

The penny is dropping for some of them!

But my favourite comment:

"Nobody has had their head stuck in the sand over Ashton. Some people prefer to take people as they find them, rather than rely on the views of a bunch of weird Bristol City window lickers whose club has not exactly roared up the league since he left."

Hang on. Do people in Ipswich NOT lick windows? 

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2 hours ago, !james said:

https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/524079/page:1

The penny is dropping for some of them!

But my favourite comment:

"Nobody has had their head stuck in the sand over Ashton. Some people prefer to take people as they find them, rather than rely on the views of a bunch of weird Bristol City window lickers whose club has not exactly roared up the league since he left."

Huh.

Almost as if we've had to ruthlessly cut wages as much as possible due to an incompetent CEO: shunting up wages to turnover 50% over the course of his period in charge while performances became worse the more of the formers signings were introduced,  the club struggling to remain within FFP, same CEO who over his tenure then also butchered our medical, fitness, and scouting departments, which are still or are going to need to be resolved over the course of this season, and possibly next. A CEO whose only benefit is his negotiating skills when selling a player.

Nah, definitely couldn't correlate.

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6 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Sunderland 2 points from top with 2 games in hand. 2 fingers.

Johnson places two fingers to remind the fans who , let's face it, are not the brightest attribute to the North East..... particularly when a number have recently suggested to go and get Sean Dyche as his replacement.

They haven’t got two games in hand ... 

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9 hours ago, luke_bristol said:

So that simpleton doesn’t understand that the biggest issue with Ashton is that the problems his type cause aren’t just immediate but are the type that get embedded in the club and take years to rectify. They deserve everything they get if they’re too stupid to see that for themselves.

The problem is we have far too many on here who, even now, still can't see it either and genuinely think that changing Managers every half a season until we find one who works will sort us out and so on that basis maybe we deserve what we are getting at the moment? That said I put 100% of the responsibility for Swiss Tony squarely at the Owners feet for allowing it to happen for far too long when most of us had worked him out within 6-12 months of joining (of course, it's HIS club, nobody else's after all) and then defending it against the fans afterwards.

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Nuno Espirito Santo now!

When is someone going to tell them they are basically Bristol City of 2013. A midtable third league club with a fanbase and finance capable of top half Championship but no more due to parachute payments and FFP

It says it all about Ashton that he failed here and he had to drop so low with the aim to reach the level we are.

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5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Nuno Espirito Santo now!

When is someone going to tell them they are basically Bristol City of 2013. A midtable third league club with a fanbase and finance capable of top half Championship but no more due to parachute payments and FFP

It says it all about Ashton that he failed here and he had to drop so low with the aim to reach the level we are.

This is literally Gas scales of delusion.

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6 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

This is literally Gas scales of delusion.

?‍♂️ 

11 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Nuno Espirito Santo now!

When is someone going to tell them they are basically Bristol City of 2013. A midtable third league club with a fanbase and finance capable of top half Championship but no more due to parachute payments and FFP

It says it all about Ashton that he failed here and he had to drop so low with the aim to reach the level we are.

To be fair, might as well go all out for Pep. 

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7 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

?‍♂️ 

To be fair, might as well go all out for Pep. 

Nah, he`s said Man City are the only English club he`ll manage.

Mind you, if the dream ticket of Ipswich Town and working with Mr Ashton was on offer then all bets are off. He`ll no doubt have sleepless nights wondering if he should take the gig though.

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29 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

About 2 maybe 2.5  years ago, I was in a location where Ashton was. He was dealing with someone and I was sat behind. All he talked about was himself and how he was signing this player and that player. He talked about it being "my club" and how brilliant he was in the transfer market. When he left, the person who was dealing with him, a friend actually asked "Does he own Bristol City ?" and then " He is so full of sh1T". Now if that person in 30 minutes got his number how could our billionaire businessman owner not in 4 years. He will destroy Ipswich.  

It makes me so angry and sad at the same time. He has to have his comeuppance soon…?

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32 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

About 2 maybe 2.5  years ago, I was in a location where Ashton was. He was dealing with someone and I was sat behind. All he talked about was himself and how he was signing this player and that player. He talked about it being "my club" and how brilliant he was in the transfer market. When he left, the person who was dealing with him, a friend actually asked "Does he own Bristol City ?" and then " He is so full of sh1T". Now if that person in 30 minutes got his number how could our billionaire businessman owner not in 4 years. He will destroy Ipswich.  

Apart from dealing with the financial and contractual side of the football club, what else does a CEO now have to do at City? Ticket sales, Catering, Stadium and pitch maintenence are covered by Bristol Sport.

A Director of Football seems to be our priority. Could this be Pearson in a year or so after he has reshaped us off and on the field?

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1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said:

It says it all about Ashton that he failed here and he had to drop so low with the aim to reach the level we are.

Money Talks!!

3 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

Mrs Ashton? 

I don’t believe there’s a Mrs Ashton, only an ex-Mrs Ashton (happy to be corrected)….but she still has a business in the world of football, supplying services like hotels, relocations, etc.  Very profitable services when there’s a lot of transfers and players need to move from one side / end of the country to another.

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13 hours ago, Southend Blue said:

I think the yanks who took over (or some representation) may have been in attendance today and took time to survey the 6,000 in attendance as hoof balls were played often and we huffed and puffed to a  0 - 0  draw at home to the mighty Barrow FC.     At some stage a Eureka moment occurred and they decided Paul Cook was dogshit here and went the way of the fans who decided to stay away and put their own plan into operation.

Cook should never have been given the job to begin with.   Lambert was a disaster, in fact they've all been failures going back to the mid 2000's apart from one or two seasons with McCarthy and even then that isn't really saying much.

This isn't a time for anger, I can see a window of opportunity ahead.    OK we didn't win today what should have been a simple victory but are still in the F.A. Cup and think the replay is on BBC terrestrial television which is something.     Cook was poor, in fact he was shit, pure and simple if I may add, but as of today he's no longer my or our club name responsibility.     Had his personal issues such as family bereavement in recent months and while truly sorry (for that) and extend sympathy then and now, as a managerial figure with us at least, he got out of his depth in a relatively short time.  

 

 

Imo you won’t get a manager that’s opinionated. You’ll get one that can be manipulated . Watford & Oxford fans warned us about Ashton but we ignored it as we’d just been promoted . Over the course of 5 years that bell end trippled the wage bill but massively reduced the quality of the squad & we’re reaping it now . We collectively hate the bloke but in a way I don’t blame him . I blame our owner who employed him twice. Yes, twice & he completely ****** our squad up both times 

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34 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Money Talks!!

I don’t believe there’s a Mrs Ashton, only an ex-Mrs Ashton (happy to be corrected)….but she still has a business in the world of football, supplying services like hotels, relocations, etc.  Very profitable services when there’s a lot of transfers and players need to move from one side / end of the country to another.

Clever couple. Steve does like the entrepreneurial spirit, doesn't he? Why he took to Lee with his property portfolio while the rest of his players were pissing it away and brawling in town and so on

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32 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Money Talks!!

I don’t believe there’s a Mrs Ashton, only an ex-Mrs Ashton (happy to be corrected)….but she still has a business in the world of football, supplying services like hotels, relocations, etc.  Very profitable services when there’s a lot of transfers and players need to move from one side / end of the country to another.

Are you referring to Player PA here?

If so, that company has changed hands and is now associated with someone else since October (the new owner was previously working at Player PA). The company website hasn't been updated to reflect this but it also doesn't reflect the death of her sister (as reported here).

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2 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Are you referring to Player PA here?

If so, that company has changed hands and is now associated with someone else since October (the new owner was previously working at Player PA). The company website hasn't been updated to reflect this but it also doesn't reflect the death of her sister (as reported here).

Yep, I know it changed hands….ta for the update, very sad.  I guess the point I badly made was the opportunism to set up a business in this area of “football”.  MA resigned around the time he was consulting here at City.

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Money Talks!!

I don’t believe there’s a Mrs Ashton, only an ex-Mrs Ashton (happy to be corrected)….but she still has a business in the world of football, supplying services like hotels, relocations, etc.  Very profitable services when there’s a lot of transfers and players need to move from one side / end of the country to another.

Providing services to footballers ..... does make the mind boggle 

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