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14 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Ive never met anyone in the corporate world like that, it is straight our of The Office for me. Reading this thread , and understanding that Ipswich fans might think we are jealous is hilarious though. Well they cannot say we did not warn them. Shame, as I have always had a soft spot for Ipswich and it is sad to see the car crash we all know is coming .

Cook will be delighted, he wanted out as soon as he knew the clown was arriving, but only with a cheque in hand. Cook would be great for Preston. 

I’ve met several.

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30 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

If you’ve worked in the Corporate world, or watched The Office, it’s not difficult to spot is it?

Wouldn’t it be refreshing to hear the truth, rather than something spun to sound better than the reality?

my experience is that of estate agents, salesmen* (especially when they talk to women ?)

*Men - please don't think women like to be spoken to like that!

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Well, sir, there's no CEO on earth
Like the genuine, bona fide
Electrified, all-star Mark Ashton
What'd I say?
Mark Ashton
Who's he called?
Mark Ashton
That's right! Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
 
I hear he talks like David Brent
That's irrational my Ipswich Gent
Is there a chance the club could fold?
Not on your life, it will turn to gold
 
Will our support staff be the best?
well all my friends will pass that test
Were you sent here by the Devil?
No, good sir, I'm on the level
 
Can the manager pick his own team?
We'll work together like a dream
I swear it's Ipswich's' only choice
Throw up your hands and raise your voice
Mark Ashton
Who's he called?
Mark Ashton
Once again
Mark Ashton
 
But he'll leave your club all cracked and broken
Sorry, Steve, the mob has spoken
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark d'oh!
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2 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:
Well, sir, there's no CEO on earth
Like the genuine, bona fide
Electrified, all-star Mark Ashton
What'd I say?
Mark Ashton
Who's he called?
Mark Ashton
That's right! Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
 
I hear he talks like David Brent
That's irrational my Ipswich Gent
Is there a chance the club could fold?
Not on your life, it will turn to gold
 
Will our support staff be the best?
well all my friends will pass that test
Were you sent here by the Devil?
No, good sir, I'm on the level
 
Can the manager pick his own team?
We'll work together like a dream
I swear it's Ipswich's' only choice
Throw up your hands and raise your voice
Mark Ashton
Who's he called?
Mark Ashton
Once again
Mark Ashton
 
But he'll leave your club all cracked and broken
Sorry, Steve, the mob has spoken
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark Ashton
Mark d'oh!

Groening. Good work

Ever been to Ogdenville or North Haverbrook?

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2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I’ve met several.

It's everywhere in my place, and for the most part people think it's ridiculous. But impress the right person and that doesn't matter.

The sad thing is football seems to be an industry that is impressed by it. Whether it's down to the money involved, or that many of those involved in it are ex-players and therefore haven't been subjected to this nonsense in a traditional sense, I'm not sure. But it's an industry where being a talker seems to get people further than it might do elsewhere. In my opinion at least.

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Sky Sports News - Curtis Davies, Tim Sherwood and Jamie Mackie giving Ipswich a bit of stick.  Davies saying there will be disharmony because not all 19 can play.  Sherwood saying new manager won’t be able to shift them because of their high wages.

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5 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

Could be LJ manager with DH coach 

Maybe 

Not a chance. Why would LJ leave Sunderland unless he was pushed, which is possible but not right now.

As for DH, assistant manager at Stoke could be working in the EPL next season.

Would be hugely surprised if either would want to work for Swiss Tony again in any case.

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Just now, ScottishRed said:

Not a chance. Why would LJ leave Sunderland unless he was pushed, which is possible but not right now.

As for DH, assistant manager at Stoke could be working in the EPL next season.

Would be hugely surprised if either would want to work for Swiss Tony again in any case.

It was just a thought. I do not see either LJ or DH leaving where they are now. But funny game football ☺️

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33 minutes ago, ScottishRed said:

Not a chance. Why would LJ leave Sunderland unless he was pushed, which is possible but not right now.

As for DH, assistant manager at Stoke could be working in the EPL next season.

Would be hugely surprised if either would want to work for Swiss Tony again in any case.

Tonight he'll be giving a minimum of 4 fingers to the maccam. Although six fingers would be appropriate for Ipswich.

Now 5 fingers

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3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Sky Sports News - Curtis Davies, Tim Sherwood and Jamie Mackie giving Ipswich a bit of stick.  Davies saying there will be disharmony because not all 19 can play.  Sherwood saying new manager won’t be able to shift them because of their high wages.

 

That's OK,  if they can't shift them,  just see out their contacts and let them go on mass for free.... worked here, what could possibly go wrong with such a plan....??

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"supporters" on the pitch at Charlton and their own keeper assaulted by a "supporter".

Reports of racial abuse of one of their players by a "supporter".

Their forum in melt down.

Not going too well up there.

Maybe Ashton should do a few high fiving runs around the ground to get them onside - it worked before after all.

 

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Despite the obvious depth of feeling against Ipswich Town FC on here recently, I will never forget that Ipswich played a match vs Southampton back in 1982 in aid of our players who were caught up in the horrendous financial situation that defined our history at that time - for me, the Tractor Boys and the Saints will always have my respect for that gesture ...

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6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Despite the obvious depth of feeling against Ipswich Town FC on here recently, I will never forget that Ipswich played a match vs Southampton back in 1982 in aid of our players who were caught up in the horrendous financial situation that defined our history at that time - for me, the Tractor Boys and the Saints will always have my respect for that gesture ...

I don’t think anyone has anything against Ipswich(actually think of them as a decent set of fans), it’s just there CEO. For the moment those 2 are difficult to separate but when he leaves I know who I will still have a problem with and who I don’t.

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2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

"supporters" on the pitch at Charlton and their own keeper assaulted by a "supporter".

Reports of racial abuse of one of their players by a "supporter".

There were a good number or them absolutely trolleyed at London Bridge at past 7pm as I was heading home. Not only did they have little chance of making kick off but they've obviously not been to Charlton for a while as they all marched resolutely in the same direction as me to the Millwall platforms, singing songs and chanting. I did briefly start pointing them in the opposite direction to little effect (Charlton train is literally the far other end of the station) but they were in their own little world & given their description of us as window lickers and bitter over Ashton I left them all to it.

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4 minutes ago, One Team said:

Looks even worse in this footage:

Have we ever had it that bad against our players?

Blimey. I don’t know there was the fracas between a fan and Cotts. 
I hope all this accelerates the exposure of MA and brings it all to an end 

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3 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Ashton not running down the touchline now is he...... When those fans wake up to that reality that total POS , his interference in the team and dressing room they maybe closer to L2

I can’t see the US owners standing for this for too long. Are they football experts? Do they understand the machinations of how football works? 

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53 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Blimey. I don’t know there was the fracas between a fan and Cotts. 
I hope all this accelerates the exposure of MA and brings it all to an end 

One or two fans and the manager yes and we’ve had a lot against Pulis in the past but like this against the players? I know it wasn’t good against Coventry but was it this bad?

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24 minutes ago, One Team said:

One or two fans and the manager yes and we’ve had a lot against Pulis in the past but like this against the players? I know it wasn’t good against Coventry but was it this bad?

It feels to me, looking from a distance, that this unrest has accelerated quite quickly from within the utopian dream of the summer. The team isn’t in a relegation fight, so it feels a bit OTT, especially towards the players! We’d usually direct our anger towards the manager, but they haven’t got one…:dunno:

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24 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

It feels to me, looking from a distance, that this unrest has accelerated quite quickly from within the utopian dream of the summer. The team isn’t in a relegation fight, so it feels a bit OTT, especially towards the players! We’d usually direct our anger towards the manager, but they haven’t got one…:dunno:

It might have been a bit OTT BUT Swiss Tony was giving it the big one after signing 19 players and last night Ipswich got absolutely battered, not even a shot on target. I suppose that would annoy a few (the ones who don't call us window lickers and have their heads literally stuck up their arses, that is). The lucky thing for us was that when Ashton got rumbled and knew he was finished here he was able to work behind the scenes to secure his exit strategy. Let's not kid ourselves it's still going to take years to clear up the mess that Swiss and Johnson left behind them, completely and utterly condoned by Legacy Boy, but at least it's being slowly sorted. Win/Win for everyone. Swiss will likely get rumbled very quickly now assuming Ipswich fans aren't as thick as they ******* look (unless he breaks tradition and appoints a very good Manager which will dilute his power) but where will he piss off to in the next couple of years? Ipswich are stuck with Swiss Tony for a while, no doubt about it, and given the reaction of many of their fans at being told what he would do to them there couldn't be more of a match made in heaven.

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1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Blimey. I don’t know there was the fracas between a fan and Cotts. 
I hope all this accelerates the exposure of MA and brings it all to an end 

I was at Brentford away a few years ago, I believe it was Wade Elliots debut - He was terrible as were most of the rest. 

The City squad that day got absolute pelters as they headed down the tunnel which was right next to their old away end.

Marvin Elliott was the only man clapped off the pitch. 

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Sensible Ipswich fans will know this season the club have stated it’s a re-building one. So why on earth sack your manager after a few months?! Mixed messages to say the least.

Clearly after years of disappointment, looks like a quite few have forgotten this and are getting impatient. That’s what money does - a sniff of it and all perspective goes out the window, they just want success now.

Interesting parallels with Ashton here already showing there…..

 

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9 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

I was at Brentford away a few years ago, I believe it was Wade Elliots debut - He was terrible as were most of the rest. 

The City squad that day got absolute pelters as they headed down the tunnel which was right next to their old away end.

Marvin Elliott was the only man clapped off the pitch. 

The player that got pushed around by a fan last night for Ipswich was the Goalkeeper who apparently was the only player that turned up. I know he can't do it as a professional athlete but he should have completely twatted the fat dwarf into next week.

1 minute ago, Alessandro said:

Sensible Ipswich fans will know this season the club have stated it’s a re-building one. So why on earth sack your manager after a few months?! Mixed messages to say the least.

Clearly after years of disappointment, looks like a quite few have forgotten this and are getting impatient. That’s what money does - a sniff of it and all perspective goes out the window, they just want success now.

Interesting parallels with Ashton here already showing there…..

 

.......only a lot quicker.

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56 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

I was at Brentford away a few years ago, I believe it was Wade Elliots debut - He was terrible as were most of the rest. 

The City squad that day got absolute pelters as they headed down the tunnel which was right next to their old away end.

Marvin Elliott was the only man clapped off the pitch. 

There was the time at Brentford when Tammy was nearly in tears, that was when Tomlin was at the club and LJ got loads of grief.

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48 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Sensible Ipswich fans will know this season the club have stated it’s a re-building one. So why on earth sack your manager after a few months?! Mixed messages to say the least.

Clearly after years of disappointment, looks like a quite few have forgotten this and are getting impatient. That’s what money does - a sniff of it and all perspective goes out the window, they just want success now.

Interesting parallels with Ashton here already showing there…..

 

It’s not necessarily money, it’s the promises made by Swiss…all that BS 

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It's all happening much quicker with them than us and there are a few contributory factors.  

 

1.  The players are not as good as the squad we had in 2016.  Ayling, Flint, Baker, Bryan, Pack, Smith, Freeman, Reid, Kodjia.  He's assembled the current Ipswich squad more or less. It's down to him and he's made no secret of it.

2.  He was insulated from criticism by Steve Lansdown who appeared publicly when we were doing crap and backed the manager.  Ashton was nowhere.  Now Ashton is front and centre and having made the mistake of sacking a perfectly competent manager.  Attention will turn to him sharpish as the penny drops amongst the less delusional Ipswich fans.

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

They are rebuilding, but I think the expectation was promotion this season.  With the costs incurred in fees and especially wages, I’m not sure they can spend 2 seasons in Lg1 under the new set-up.

Correct, even at League 1 level, 19 incoming is going to be too large a cost to finish 10th………and if they do fail this year that puts Swiss right under the pump because those American owners will know that another failure next season will be an unmitigated disaster and it won’t be the 1st Team Manager explaining wtf has happened.

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3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

They are rebuilding, but I think the expectation was promotion this season.  With the costs incurred in fees and especially wages, I’m not sure they can spend 2 seasons in Lg1 under the new set-up.

I believe from an Ipswich buddy the message from Ashton was very clear that they don't 'need' to go up this season. You've got to question that now Cook has gone. 

Either way I suspect the owners have the cash for 2 seasons at league one, but any longer and surely FFP will come into play very quickly too. If they're anything but top 6 early next season, the unrest and pressure will increase and you can see things unraveling very quickly for them and by extension MA, who I also suspect won't have the same leeway there that he got here.

Sounds already like his penchant for spending other people's money is getting him in trouble again. 

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8 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

I believe from an Ipswich buddy the message from Ashton was very clear that they don't 'need' to go up this season. You've got to question that now Cook has gone. 

Either way I suspect the owners have the cash for 2 seasons at league one, but any longer and surely FFP will come into play very quickly too. If they're anything but top 6 early next season, the unrest and pressure will increase and you can see things unraveling very quickly for them and by extension MA, who I also suspect won't have the same leeway there that he got here.

Sounds already like his penchant for spending other people's money is getting him in trouble again. 

Yeah, guess if you said - we really want promotion this season, but if we give it a good run (e.g. lose in playoffs) then we are okay for another season.

However sat in 11th place…

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9 points off of playoffs having played at least 1 game more than everyone in the top 7 bar Wycombe, who they are 14 points behind is not anywhere near where they expected to be.

Cook pays the penalty for that…and much as I like and rate him, it’s been a poor start to the season.  Even more so when you look at the players brought in.

Even if they have a really good run they are gonna need 45+ points from 25 games to get 6th.  Pic below is since 95/96.

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29 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yeah, guess if you said - we really want promotion this season, but if we give it a good run (e.g. lose in playoffs) then we are okay for another season.

However sat in 11th place…

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9 points off of playoffs having played at least 1 game more than everyone in the top 7 bar Wycombe, who they are 14 points behind is not anywhere near where they expected to be.

Cook pays the penalty for that…and much as I like and rate him, it’s been a poor start to the season.  Even more so when you look at the players brought in.

Even if they have a really good run they are gonna need 45+ points from 25 games to get 6th.  Pic below is since 95/96.

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With Frank Lampard in charge, its HMS piss the league :rolleyes:

 

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I see Ipswich Town's Chief Executive Mark Ashton is quoted on the BBC Football website as promising (sic)..................."I will cast the net far and wide, to find the right person to replace Paul Cook"    Poor Ipswich Pheckers, they have No idea what is round the next corner  Ha!  ??

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5 hours ago, Alessandro said:

I believe from an Ipswich buddy the message from Ashton was very clear that they don't 'need' to go up this season. You've got to question that now Cook has gone. 

Just like 2017/18 when he said we were not "planning on promotion" that season - which then lead to players leaving

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I rewatched both the the Sunderland till I die series recently. 

Must be something about being a CEO at a football club that means they have to be so self righteous and full of themselves. Both Martin Bain and Charlie Methven are just awful cringe worthy arses. And to think Ashton is probably worse than both. 

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On 05/12/2021 at 13:28, spudski said:

I had a similar occasion. Sat next to him in the coffee shop. Like you say, it was all about him. And for some odd reason he was putting on a cockney accent. Absolutely full of shit.  

perhaps he thinks hes arfur daley sometimes

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3 hours ago, The Batman said:

I rewatched both the the Sunderland till I die series recently. 

Must be something about being a CEO at a football club that means they have to be so self righteous and full of themselves. Both Martin Bain and Charlie Methven are just awful cringe worthy arses. And to think Ashton is probably worse than both. 

I understand that our current CEO is very different to this. I've heard from several sources that he is a breath of fresh air, is easily engaged, responds promptly to even "minor" matters, and cares about the job rather than himself.

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3 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

I understand that our current CEO is very different to this. I've heard from several sources that he is a breath of fresh air, is easily engaged, responds promptly to even "minor" matters, and cares about the job rather than himself.

Good, should be receiving my vouchers any day now :ph34r:

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