BanburyRed Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Northern Red said: How does he score on the decency scale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. And maybe the Pert link too has parallels with taking Simpson and Downing off of England, paying compo, when they were trying to get rid of them too. All speculative from me, but you can’t help but think it can you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 They're only 4 signings away from 23 new players or to put it another way, at the end of January they could have an entirely new first team squad in 7 months. Ashton won't be able to help himself in the transfer market leaving most of the current squad no idea if they're coming or going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: They're only 4 signings away from 23 new players or to put it another way, at the end of January they could have an entirely new first team squad in 7 months. Ashton won't be able to help himself in the transfer market leaving most of the current squad no idea if they're coming or going. Imagine some signed in the summer (perm and loan) might move on. Ashton won’t be happy unless he’s signing players though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, TomThumb84 said: ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. "Assistant First Team Coach or Assistant to the First Team Coach?" Credit Ricky Gervaise/David Brent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Midlands Robin said: They're only 4 signings away from 23 new players or to put it another way, at the end of January they could have an entirely new first team squad in 7 months. Ashton won't be able to help himself in the transfer market leaving most of the current squad no idea if they're coming or going. Looking on Transfermarkt, the summer turn over of players was about 43. They list 21 incoming in the summer, madness to think they would gel that quickly. New manager, few more ego signings just to add to the chaos. 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Imagine some signed in the summer (perm and loan) might move on. Ashton won’t be happy unless he’s signing players though. I wonder if they might struggle to offload. I imagine they are one of the higher payers in that League, we know to our cost how that goes. Their squad is around 30 players, there is no way they go through this window without signing more . Wonder how Ashton sells it to the new owners, just a bit of quality to complete the squad. We might just be able to offload some after all It does all seem vaguely familiar . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 McKenna appointed, Pert as Assistant. I don’t care about the timing, I always find it bonkers that the new manager lets the caretaker handle this game. A cynical person might suggest Sunderland is a tough game and they don’t want to start with a L. If it were me I’d want to have some control over the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Looking on Transfermarkt, the summer turn over of players was about 43. They list 21 incoming in the summer, madness to think they would gel that quickly. New manager, few more ego signings just to add to the chaos. I wonder if they might struggle to offload. I imagine they are one of the higher payers in that League, we know to our cost how that goes. Their squad is around 30 players, there is no way they go through this window without signing more . Wonder how Ashton sells it to the new owners, just a bit of quality to complete the squad. We might just be able to offload some after all It does all seem vaguely familiar . Oh, absolutely will be tough to move on. Imagine trying to get someone to pick up Morsy’s £12k p.w. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Mckenna confirmed? Il just leave this here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garner Similarities? Edited December 16, 2021 by cidercity1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: Mckenna confirmed? Yeah, McKenna and Pert as his assistant. Confirmed and will start Monday with McGreal in the hot seat for the Sunderland match. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59686994 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: Yeah, McKenna and Pert as his assistant. Confirmed and will start Monday with McGreal in the hot seat for the Sunderland match. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59686994 Unnervingly, he looks eerily like Gavin Williamson. I hope, for his sake, the similarity ends there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: Mckenna confirmed? Il just leave this here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garner Similarities? Similarities?! McKenna left his job as a first team coach at Man Utd to join Ipswich - Ben Garner left his job as assistant coach at ATK in India to join Roverzzzz - can you give more on the ‘similarities’ in this one? Cheers ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Unnervingly, he looks eerily like Gavin Williamson. I hope, for his sake, the similarity ends there. Phil, you reside in La France, a country that never misses an opportunity to lambast or inhibit UK citizens - eg, everything right now! Therefore, how can you join in with them by ridiculing our politicians at the moment without any remorse?! Shame on you Phillip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Never heard of him. Big challenge going into that shambles as your first job. It’s a bold appointment. I said when he appointed Holden it would make or break his time here. He’s gone early on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Phil, you reside in La France, a country that never misses an opportunity to lambast or inhibit UK citizens - eg, everything right now! Therefore, how can you join in with them by ridiculing our politicians at the moment without any remorse?! Shame on you Phillip! Unfortunately, I am not overly familiar with the meaning of various EMojis, but I suspect that your penultimate one indicates you are being sarcastic. If not, then I must respond to your post based on your final EMoji, suggesting you may have been drinking (Malbec, I seem to recall - Good for You.). For what it is worth, my experience of France is that it treats UK citizens (residing and paying their due taxes in France) very fairly indeed. I have received both my vaccines and am due my third on Monday morning - all with the minimum of fuss and injected with a smile, accompanied by the normal warm chitchat regularly afforded by most professionals with whom I have come in to contact during my years in France - I have been stopped in Police traffic controls on many occasions and, without fail, I have always been greeted with a salute and a warm Bonjour. If you are referring to the French politicians’ attitude towards England and the English, however, that is a different matter, although you should be aware that there is a Presidential election next year and Macron, in particular, needs to demonstrate his strength. But, getting back to GW, how on earth was he ever elected as an MP, let alone a Minister? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petehinton Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 From my morning read of The Athletic…. 5 1 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, petehinton said: From my morning read of The Athletic…. Laughable how similar it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 It's one thing making a mess here but making the same mess somewhere else and not realising your mistakes is pretty unforgivable. Of course it's not a mistake to him is it it's all part of the plan for maximum wealth extraction and ego stroking - bet he loved dealing with man U and "building contacts" there for the last few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pezo said: It's one thing making a mess here but making the same mess somewhere else and not realising your mistakes is pretty unforgivable. Of course it's not a mistake to him is it it's all part of the plan for maximum wealth extraction and ego stroking - bet he loved dealing with man U and "building contacts" there for the last few weeks. Kieran comes here with an abundance of experience of champions league, Premiership and top level coaching at one of the biggest clubs in the world. It's an exciting time for Ipswich, and we'll be hoping that he can draw on his contacts with his previous club. Let's also not forget that he has worked with one of the best managers in the modern game in Jose Mourinho. Or something along those lines... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/526123/why-does-it-always-happen-to-us.../#20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Just absolute funniest thing about all this is the leopard isn't even trying to change his spots 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 The appointment of McKenna is a mirror version of the way Holden was appointed here. Which leads me to wonder if MA, who is a really clever sod in his own mind, and knowing what affinity SL had with the Johnson family, had a much bigger influence on LJ getting the City job than we have ever realised. And even how much he had to do with the demise of Cotterill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 What's funny to me, excluding the children on Twitter, I think our fans have been quite polite when warning them about Ashton. Yet have been met with a tirade of abuse. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 With us being so successful it is only natural that Mark Ashton’s Ipswich Kingdom would try to entice away all our players and staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Agree. It’s not like they are Cardiff or the gas . I think we all used to like them ! This time next year , if they are not in L2 , they will get it . More will leak from behind the scenes and they will hear exactly what we know goes on . But as they have turned out to be such a miserable bunch , it is now fair comedy game . Are the US owners totally oblivious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On the face of it, without having the benefit of knowing how Mark Ashton practically dismantled our house from the inside, and used our club as a vessel for self-gain, the Ipswich Town job appears attractive, yet they have ended up with a coach in his first “Head” role. I wonder how many seasoned, experienced, and respected managers either:- i) Looked at the job and were put off because of Ashton and the spookily familiar house of cards he is building which includes a fraud of a Fitness Coach. ii) Were not considered by Ashton as they would not accept his maniacally self-driven need to control everything, or that the main man himself felt threatened by. No wonder he could not wait to scuttle off to ITFC, probably a perfect outfit for him to be able to hide in plain sight from the owners whilst coining it in, and off-setting accountability easily as they are so far removed from it. I always find time to comment on this subject as my view is that he was professionally negligent here in his last 6-12 months at best, and at worse should have been disciplined and ultimately dismissed for gross misconduct. You can not overplay the mess he created here and then left us with, both in squad, and ability to reinvest. 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: The appointment of McKenna is a mirror version of the way Holden was appointed here. Which leads me to wonder if MA, who is a really clever sod in his own mind, and knowing what affinity SL had with the Johnson family, had a much bigger influence on LJ getting the City job than we have ever realised. And even how much he had to do with the demise of Cotterill? The story is the board (MA included) wanted Appleton, Lansdown wanted Johnson, Lansdown overruled them. Whether it’s true I don’t know. Re Cotterill, I’m sure Lansdown brought MA back to do his dirty work for him. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 They aren’t bothered what bitter Bristol City fans say. But just to make sure he is the right man for them. They got about 7 topics on him and one about Andy Rolls on the first page of their shitty forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The story is the board (MA included) wanted Appleton, Lansdown wanted Johnson, Lansdown overruled them. Whether it’s true I don’t know. Re Cotterill, I’m sure Lansdown brought MA back to do his dirty work for him. Yet there is the story (promoted by MA) that he suggested LJ to SL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Yet there is the story (promoted by MA) that he suggested LJ to SL. I bet it was jumping on SL’s coat-tails. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I bet it was jumping on SL’s coat-tails. SL never corrected it though, as far as I recall, it became a "we thought" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I bet it was jumping on SL’s coat-tails. Wouldn’t be surprised if another scribbled spider-diagram in his “Goals of Mark Ashton” notebook is to take a relatively unknown coach and mentor and develop him and hope he actually wins something under Ashton’s watchful and father-like eye, so that he can claim he moulded and developed the next Pep Guardiola. Can see it forming in his head for his memoirs/autobiography. Chapter 42 - “King-Maker”……… Edited December 17, 2021 by TomThumb84 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 With Pert they'll be right up there. No, doesn't work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 4 hours ago, petehinton said: From my morning read of The Athletic…. I tried to read the article itself, but it appears to be behind a paywall. Is there any possibility you might be able provide a link or, alternatively, to copy and paste it? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I tried to read the article itself, but it appears to be behind a paywall. Is there any possibility you might be able provide a link or, alternatively, to copy and paste it? Thanks in advance. Tomorrow has long been earmarked as a big day for Ipswich Town. Almost 29,000 have heeded calls to “Pack out Portman Road” for the visit of Sunderland, a pre-Christmas gathering that has no place in English football’s third tier. The anticipated presence of five Americans in the directors’ box only adds to the sense of occasion. Ed Schwartz, Brett Johnson, Mark Detmer, Berke Bakay and Mark Steed have been Ipswich’s owners since April but will be gathered as a quintet for the first time. “We want to be brave and bold,” said chief executive Mark Ashton in his rallying cry for supporters to return last month. “We want to show the world that Ipswich Town Football Club is back on the map.” They still take some finding in the middle of League One, though. This season has been the reset gone wrong at the halfway mark, with ambitions of promotion back to the Championship already badly frayed. Seven wins are all that have come from 22 games and the nine-point gap to the top six will take some clawing back. The struggles cost manager Paul Cook his job this month after less than a year in charge and now it is Kieran McKenna tasked with resurrecting this ailing campaign. McKenna last night left his role as first team coach with Manchester United to sign a three-and-a-half-year deal at Portman Road. It is his first managerial role at the age of 35. “I strongly believe in the opportunity to build something here,” McKenna told the club’s website. Ipswich desperately need a spark, after an embarrassing FA Cup second round replay loss to League Two strugglers Barrow on Wednesday night. That was an unedifying new low in a season that has already brought a Carabao Cup exit at home to another fourth-tier side, Newport County, and EFL Trophy elimination at the hands of Arsenal Under-21s. Former England defender Terry Butcher, who won the old UEFA Cup (today’s Europa League) with Ipswich in 1981, was at Holker Street as a TV pundit, so had a ringside seat for the 2-0 defeat by Barrow — currently 87th on the 92-club league ladder. “We’re not a big club anymore,” he said. “We’re a small club, really, when you think about how far we’ve sunk. You can talk about this and that in the past, but it’s not the past that matters. It’s the present. And the present at the moment isn’t good enough.” This visit of fellow fallen giants Sunderland is not nearly the occasion Ipswich hoped it would be. It might be an ownership coronation delayed by the pandemic but the excitement that accompanied the Suffolk club into this season has been badly diluted. Ipswich, for all their vast changes, are as close to the third tier’s relegation zone, purely in points terms, as they are to its play-off places. Fans craved a fresh start after a decade of regression under Marcus Evans saw Championship mediocrity become relegation in 2019 to end 17 years in the second tier but are yet to see tangible differences between this season and last. The frustration has been bubbling and came to the boil when beaten 2-0 at Charlton Athletic last Tuesday. Defender Toto Nsiala was at the centre of a regrettable confrontation with visiting fans after the full-time whistle and had to be pulled away by goalkeeper Christian Walton. A contrite statement came within 24 hours. “My intention was to acknowledge the supporters and tell them that we are doing all we can to put things right,” said Nsiala. “Unfortunately, this did not come across how I intended.” Ipswich’s Toto Nsiala issued an apology after a frank exchange with supporters away to Charlton (Photo: Sebastian Frej/MB Media/Getty Images) Good intentions have not yet taken Ipswich far under new ownership. A once tired-looking Portman Road has been spruced up since the summer and investments in the squad have been significant, but Rotherham United, League One’s front runners, are 16 points above them despite having played a game less. McKenna, who has joined a managerial alumni that includes two English football heroes in Sir Alf Ramsey and Sir Bobby Robson, will have his work cut out if Ipswich are to avoid spending a fourth straight season in League One. The remedy to Ipswich’s ills this season was supposed to be Cook. Promotions had been won in his three previous posts — at Chesterfield, Portsmouth and Wigan Athletic — and his undoubted pedigree in League One made him a popular successor to Paul Lambert in March. The appointment was made by Ipswich’s then-majority shareholder Evans but endorsed by the incoming Americans, who completed a £17.5 million takeover five weeks after Cook’s arrival. An opportunity to reach last season’s play-offs had been meekly surrendered by then via a run of one win in eight matches, and the onus placed upon a drastic summer overhaul — out went 20 first-team players, in came 19 new recruits. Off-field changes were significant, too. Ashton, formerly CEO at Bristol City, effectively became the most influential figure at the club when made chief executive by the new owners. “Ashton is running the show,” says one well-placed source. “The Americans gave him the keys to the city in the summer when he came in.” The relationship between Ashton and Cook might have begun cordially enough as they worked together in a reconstruction of the squad, but The Athletic has been told it quickly deteriorated in the weeks that preceded Ipswich’s second managerial change of 2021. They are understood to have clashed over the summer appointment of a performance team headed by Andy Rolls. Former West Ham United head of sports science Rolls had worked with Ashton at Bristol City but became a bone of contention with Cook, who was dissatisfied with the fitness levels of his squad. Displeasure over transfer issues was made clear as the January window approached. Ipswich transformed their squad in the summer without a recruitment department, and a formal structure to fill that void is still to be finalised. Tensions had become apparent before Cook’s sacking but the timing of it was nevertheless a surprise. No sooner had he faced the media to digest a flat goalless draw at home to Barrow in the original FA Cup tie on Saturday, December 4 than he was called in to see Ashton and chairman Michael O’Leary, where he was told his services were no longer be required. Ashton later told the media it was a “unanimous” decision made by the board and cited “recent performances” as the trigger. Those included a penalty shootout defeat against Arsenal Under-21s in the EFL Trophy’s last 32, having led 2-0 with 25 minutes to go, and league losses to promotion candidates Rotherham and Sunderland. However, overall the club’s League One fortunes had been much-improved since a miserable start that yielded just three points, and no wins, from the first six games. Cook’s remaining 14 league matches in charge earned 24 points. “It was almost 50-50 among the fanbase with Cook,” says Joe Fairs from the Blue Monday Ipswich supporters podcast. “It’s happened early in his tenure, and as Ipswich fans we’ve been used to Paul Lambert and Mick McCarthy, who have outstayed their welcome by a season or two. “By the time they went, the whole fanbase was united. With this one, it wasn’t the case at all. People were clinging on to the hope it was going to work but it was largely hope based on what he’d done previously. “I don’t think anyone expected the start to this season to be as bad as it was. We’ve been behind the eight-ball from that point and never really got back into it.” Cook was sacked this month but the fanbase was split on the decision (Photo: Hannah Fountain – CameraSport via Getty Images) Cook had gone all-in with Ipswich, setting up home in Suffolk. He had taken a backroom team of trusted allies to Portman Road, including the former Everton, Arsenal and England striker Francis Jeffers, but was without key personnel that had helped create his previous successes. Leam Richardson, who worked with Cook at Chesterfield, Portsmouth and Wigan, declined the chance to join his old boss again at Ipswich in favour of keeping a lead role at Wigan, where he is now head coach. Anthony Barry continues to build up his glowing reputation as an assistant at Chelsea, after working with Cook for three years at Wigan before joining Frank Lampard’s Stamford Bridge staff in the summer of 2020. The search for Cook’s successor has been led by Ashton, who is thought to have favoured a modern, dynamic head coach all along. An “extensive” process has ended with Ipswich being drawn to McKenna, who has been coaching at Manchester United since 2016. The Northern Irishman was part of the backroom teams working with Jose Mourinho and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and was kept on by Ralf Rangnick when he was named interim manager at the start of this month. Martyn Pert, United’s respected first-team coach, will be McKenna’s assistant as Ipswich and both will formally take charge on Monday. The hope will be for a reaction as a new coaching team watches on at a near-capacity Portman Road tomorrow. The added attraction is the unveiling of a new statue depicting late Ipswich great Kevin Beattie, a star of that iconic, Robson-led team for 13 years as they finished as top-flight runners-up twice, won the FA Cup in 1978 and then the UEFA Cup three years later. The bronze sculpture cost £110,000, paid in part by donations from supporters. Saturday would have been Beattie’s 68th birthday. His statue, like the figures of Robson and 1966 World Cup winner Ramsey already immortalised outside of Portman Road, will be another reminder of what Ipswich used to be. History brings an inescapable weight of expectation. The new ownership group is complex, with US investment fund ORG Portfolio Management owning 90 per cent of the club, but its long-term ambitions are clear. The potential for Ipswich to rejoin the Premier League, a level they have not seen since 2001-02, has been highlighted. Another mid-table finish in League One this season is not part of the plan. “It’s still pretty positive around the club and the ownership,” adds Fairs. “They’ve come in and said the right things and invested in the community. They’ve got a hell of a lot of credit in the bank but there’s a huge amount of work to do. “There’s clearly pressure on the club to go up when you look at how Cook was sacked. This should be a top-six squad, no question.” As club great Butcher said so succinctly up at Barrow, the offering is not nearly good enough right now. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, petehinton said: Tomorrow has long been earmarked as a big day for Ipswich Town. Almost 29,000 have heeded calls to “Pack out Portman Road” for the visit of Sunderland, a pre-Christmas gathering that has no place in English football’s third tier. The anticipated presence of five Americans in the directors’ box only adds to the sense of occasion. Ed Schwartz, Brett Johnson, Mark Detmer, Berke Bakay and Mark Steed have been Ipswich’s owners since April but will be gathered as a quintet for the first time. “We want to be brave and bold,” said chief executive Mark Ashton in his rallying cry for supporters to return last month. “We want to show the world that Ipswich Town Football Club is back on the map.” They still take some finding in the middle of League One, though. This season has been the reset gone wrong at the halfway mark, with ambitions of promotion back to the Championship already badly frayed. Seven wins are all that have come from 22 games and the nine-point gap to the top six will take some clawing back. Excellent, Many Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 “We want to show the world that Ipswich Town Football Club is back on the map.” Regret to inform you Mr Ashton, but the "world" doesn't give a flying **** about you or your poxey third division club ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Marcus Aurelius said: What's funny to me, excluding the children on Twitter, I think our fans have been quite polite when warning them about Ashton. Yet have been met with a tirade of abuse. True, I suppose no one wants bad news at the start of a regime.. Eventually someone has to win in the new manager lottery..... Perhaps it's this guy. Edited December 17, 2021 by B1ackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, petehinton said: An “extensive” process has ended with Ipswich being drawn to McKenna, who has been coaching at Manchester United since 2016. Not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Not good enough. What happened to the vigerious process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 5 hours ago, slartibartfast said: “We want to show the world that Ipswich Town Football Club is back on the map.” Regret to inform you Mr Ashton, but the "world" doesn't give a flying **** about you or your poxey third division club ! 40 plus pages on this forum says otherwise. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Pezo said: What happened to the vigerious process? They probably didn't know how to spell it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: The story is the board (MA included) wanted Appleton, Lansdown wanted Johnson, Lansdown overruled them. Whether it’s true I don’t know. Re Cotterill, I’m sure Lansdown brought MA back to do his dirty work for him. As I remember Cotts did his usual Thursday pre match press conference and it was then announced later that evening that Cotts was sacked. 36 hours later on the Saturday morning Ashton was announced as COO. Pretty clear what happened...Cotts refused to work under the new COO waiting in the wings and SL chose Ashton over Cotts. With regard to LJ Ashton initially took credit (on 20man) for LJ's appointment but as soon as the losing streaks started I recall he referred to LJ on RB as " Steve's appointment" 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Clevedon Red said: 40 plus pages on this forum says otherwise. Not sure we constitute “the world” on here, and I actually think discussing this is pretty relevant on this forum. Might be 40 pages, should be more based on the final year of our ex-CEO’s contribution to our club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said: Not sure we constitute “the world” on here, and I actually think discussing this is pretty relevant on this forum. You're right. We're bigger than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Clevedon Red said: 40 plus pages on this forum says otherwise. The "football world" in general doesn't care.......... the forty pages are from a fan base with an axe to grind ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 It’s the Ashton/Johnson derby today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/ex-portsmouth-and-wigan-athletic-boss-makes-forceful-claim-as-he-ends-silence-over-controversial-ipswich-town-sacking-3515636 Interesting little piece. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/ex-portsmouth-and-wigan-athletic-boss-makes-forceful-claim-as-he-ends-silence-over-controversial-ipswich-town-sacking-3515636 Interesting little piece. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Colour me shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 https://twitter.com/search?q=paul cook&src=typed_query Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Those few quotes tell you so much about Mark Ashton, Paul Cook, the nature of PC's sacking, and the faith the board at Ipswich have placed in one of the big charlatans in English football. I'll be praying for you, Ipswich Town. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Certainly for myself and the lads who went in, working with a new performance department brought in by Mark Ashton and not by me, the challenges we had within that daily over training and fitness etc. Sounds familiar. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 79 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Some parts of the job he done here were great in the fees we got for players however the mess we are in now can only be put down to him. just read this. Does sound familiar to what Ashton did here. Sorry if this has already been posted sends-silence-over-controversial-ipswich-town-sacking-3515636https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/ex-portsmouth-and-wigan-athletic-boss-makes-forceful-claim-as-he-ends-silence-over-controversial-ipswich-town-sacking-3515636/https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/ex-portsmouth-and-wigan-athletic-boss-makes-forceful-claim-as-he-ends-silence-over-controversial-ipswich-towww.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/ex-portsmouth-and-wigan-athletic-boss-makes-forceful-claim-as-he-ends-silence-ove https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/ex-portsmouth-and-wigan-athletic-boss-makes-forceful-claim-as-he-ends-silence-over-controversial-ipswich-town-sacking-3515636 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityal Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I'm really glad that Paul Cook has spoken out about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, !james said: Thank you for reminding me of the opening post of that mega Ipswich/Ashton thread. Spectacular. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I'm really glad that Paul Cook has spoken out about it. Just little Lee and holden to go now then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Mark Ashton is a blight and a pestilence.............who should be avoided at all times. I feel sorry for Ipswich supporters, especially the ones who high- fived him, poor misguided souls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Hmmm nothing like what happened here, Watford and Oxford......those poor deluded Ipswich fans being taken I by that absolute fraud, He's up there with Peter Ridsdale 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, frenchred said: Just little Lee and holden to go now then! and Cotts… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Hmmm nothing like what happened here, Watford and Oxford......those poor deluded Ipswich fans being taken I by that absolute fraud, He's up there with Peter Ridsdale Highher, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, jayjay said: Highher, I'd say. I think it is bettewr with only 2 h's 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, jayjay said: I think it is bettewr with only 2 h's Sorry I just can't spellllllllllll. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isawjonshaw Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, jayjay said: Highher, I'd say. Wish I was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, frenchred said: Just little Lee and holden to go now then! Doubt that will happen not unless it's in lees book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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