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7 minutes ago, phantom said:

Do I sense a certain tongue in cheek piss take here?

Maybe a browsing Norwich supporter?

I read the post and thought 'putting up a stature of the man' was slightly bizarre.     Didn't set off alarm bells or nothing but first reaction was one of being incredulous when reading that exact bit.       I won't berate one of our own and given the benefit of any doubt  I put it down to the time of season and tangible exuberance we're experiencing what with being hours away from a promotion back to second league level.

Thought he gave Mr Ashton a few too many plaudits though.     In bed with a wife and cheese and all that.      I know he's something of a rodent but all those acknowledgements and fanfare, seemed a bit unsavoury or unwarranted.       I read nothing but bad reviews from mostly OTIB when he came on board with us but like it or not, he has been part of a standout success with us.        It's not just down to one individual though.

If Ashton can have cheese in bed with a wife or whatever, then McKenna and Game Changer Group can have the best accommodation money can buy with a clone of Pamela Anderson's in a platinum Hollywood hotel suite.     Caviar and World's most exclusive Champagne.      Talk another time.    

 

 

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On 25/04/2023 at 22:08, Loosey Boy said:

Probably end up getting them on the opening day of next season!

Us getting a promoted side first game seems to happen a lot so wouldn't be surprised.

It would be a sell out for both home and away supporters.

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4 hours ago, IpswichFanInPeace said:

Hi there all,

Firstly, ignore the ridiculous piece in The Sun! That should be a default position anyway, but the club knew Schumacher had won before, McKenna didn't attend, the club congratulated Schumacher and nobody stormed out. Our contingent left the ceremony at the end, but as this was close to this award being handed out, a Norwich fan who writes for The Sun has made this nonsense up.

I'd love to know what the issues you had with Ashton are. Since Day 1 at our club he's been incredible.

He reunited the fan base, got players out into the community, oversaw the recruitment of an amazing manager (a gamble), convinced disillusioned fans to return, oversaw phenomenal recruitment, including convincing many players with top Championship offers to buy into our project, has stayed out of the managers way, kept fans updated, delivered record gates, record season tickets (all in League One!), record shirt sales with massive international appear through a link  up with a global superstar, driven the further investment and redevelopment of large parts of the stadium and even on Tuesday night he got on the supporters coaches and thanked everyone personally.

We are almost ready to build a statue of the guy. He couldn't have been better at his job.

So forgive us if we aren't bothered about what he did at Ashton Gate which may have been either a) being made a scapegoat for the owner / directors or b) he genuinely made mistakes at your club which he learned from to our significant benefit.

If I found him in bed with my wife I'd tuck him in and bring him some cheese and biscuits.

COYB.

Mark Ashton is not fully responsible for his abject failure, pushing us to the very brink of FFP infractions with a bloated squad on huge wages that the Club could not afford. He was ably assisted by Lee Johnson and over saw by Mr Lansdown! 

You put a manager with insignificant experience and aN inflated view of his own ability (he predicted Europa League in five years that haunted his consistent failure) an owner/majority shareholder that would openly state my money my choice (this is only partially true, the club had to generate money to stay within the rules, thus this is a choice made that would allow the club to get aboard the fast track to failure) and a bloke who would happily negotiate ridiculous contracts at enormous cost to placate the former  

However in his case what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger and Ipswich have benefited by his experience, particularly as he was not enslaved by limitless money and a child who wanted a new toy every week. 
 

Ipswich town is a completely different kettle of fish financially, its division, its owners resources and in view of its personnel, which is an obvious better fit for him now than he was here then. 
 


 

 

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42 minutes ago, Southend Blue said:

I read the post and thought 'putting up a stature of the man' was slightly bizarre.     Didn't set off alarm bells or nothing but first reaction was one of being incredulous when reading that exact bit.       I won't berate one of our own and given the benefit of any doubt  I put it down to the time of season and tangible exuberance we're experiencing what with being hours away from a promotion back to second league level.

Thought he gave Mr Ashton a few too many plaudits though.     In bed with a wife and cheese and all that.      I know he's something of a rodent but all those acknowledgements and fanfare, seemed a bit unsavoury or unwarranted.       I read nothing but bad reviews from mostly OTIB when he came on board with us but like it or not, he has been part of a standout success with us.        It's not just down to one individual though.

If Ashton can have cheese in bed with a wife or whatever, then McKenna and Game Changer Group can have the best accommodation money can buy with a clone of Pamela Anderson's in a platinum Hollywood hotel suite.     Caviar and World's most exclusive Champagne.      Talk another time.    

 

 

The easiest way of putting it is that if Ashton leaves you in the state he left us, of course aided and abetted by an owner who gave him his total trust, you will have a vastly different opinion of him, probably a very similar opinion we have of him.

The only positive to arise from how he left us is very luckily we appointed a Manager who had the balls to throw a number of Academy lads to the sharks (we couldn’t afford to do anything else in our FFFP situation) and have coped admirably at Championship level. With £10m from Semenyo and an expected £20m plus for Scott we SHOULD be in a position to look the right way next season instead of over our shoulders.To get to this point we have had to endure two seasons of some of the most turgid football imaginable and only now are supporters watching football worth paying for.

Other than that Swiss is a top bloke

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5 hours ago, IpswichFanInPeace said:

I'd love to know what the issues you had with Ashton are. Since Day 1 at our club he's been incredible.

Since Day 1, he's been ******* you over - you just don't know it yet. Then - like us - you'll wake up one day and realise you're losing money hand over fist, costs out of control, expenditure irresponsibly outstripping income and you're hurtling towards an FFP breach and a points deduction. You'll look for the CEO to stand up and be counted, only to catch sight of his sorry ass scarpering over the horizon to another job, leaving devastation in his wake. 

So give it time, yeah. He's been with you 5 minutes but it takes a while for the shit to hit the fan with this arrogant, vainglorious pr 1 ck. It just takes a while for someone else to read the whirlwind. It won't be him, for sure. 

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In short he got fortunate with turning around a couple of players into good deals for the club. He got the owner's trust who took his eye off the ball and Ashton seemed to have free reign. He believed his own hype and thought he could flip any player into a profit, so pretty much bought as many as he could no matter what. The squad was bloated and costly, both financially and how we lacked progress. it was a relief when he left but his unwanted legacy lived on.

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1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Since Day 1, he's been ******* you over - you just don't know it yet. Then - like us - you'll wake up one day and realise you're losing money hand over fist, costs out of control, expenditure irresponsibly outstripping income and you're hurtling towards an FFP breach and a points deduction. You'll look for the CEO to stand up and be counted, only to catch sight of his sorry ass scarpering over the horizon to another job, leaving devastation in his wake. 

So give it time, yeah. He's been with you 5 minutes but it takes a while for the shit to hit the fan with this arrogant, vainglorious pr 1 ck. It just takes a while for someone else to read the whirlwind. It won't be him, for sure. 

We had the success bit under LJ, Man U win etc, but you’re spot on, as soon as results start to dip then he’ll soon go missing.

“I’d love to come back on the show, Geoff”…

Let’s face it getting out of L1 spending money like water is no achievement at all. Cotts is supposed to have done that but he sold Sam Baldock for £2m & balanced the books, no £1m full backs in his side.

As his recruitment being “amazing”, several of his initial signings there like Pigott & Harper are already out on loan elsewhere.

Bloke’s a *** & will get slaughtered in BS3 when we play them next season.

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1 minute ago, phantom said:

His ego wouldn't let him 

He'll be parading around the front of the Atyeo like a show pony 

It’s going to be Pulis on his return with Stoke levels of abuse, then..

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On 28/04/2023 at 13:57, IpswichFanInPeace said:

Hi there all,

Firstly, ignore the ridiculous piece in The Sun! That should be a default position anyway, but the club knew Schumacher had won before, McKenna didn't attend, the club congratulated Schumacher and nobody stormed out. Our contingent left the ceremony at the end, but as this was close to this award being handed out, a Norwich fan who writes for The Sun has made this nonsense up.

I'd love to know what the issues you had with Ashton are. Since Day 1 at our club he's been incredible.

He reunited the fan base, got players out into the community, oversaw the recruitment of an amazing manager (a gamble), convinced disillusioned fans to return, oversaw phenomenal recruitment, including convincing many players with top Championship offers to buy into our project, has stayed out of the managers way, kept fans updated, delivered record gates, record season tickets (all in League One!), record shirt sales with massive international appear through a link  up with a global superstar, driven the further investment and redevelopment of large parts of the stadium and even on Tuesday night he got on the supporters coaches and thanked everyone personally.

We are almost ready to build a statue of the guy. He couldn't have been better at his job.

So forgive us if we aren't bothered about what he did at Ashton Gate which may have been either a) being made a scapegoat for the owner / directors or b) he genuinely made mistakes at your club which he learned from to our significant benefit.

If I found him in bed with my wife I'd tuck him in and bring him some cheese and biscuits.

COYB.

Know for a fact if you hadn’t gone up this season you were in some shit financially, first team departments like sport science, analysis, medical would have been facing a 50% budget cut if you didn’t go up 

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24 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

My mate, who is an ITFC season ticket holder, reliably informs me that Ashton was crying post final whistle today.

Whether that was emotion or the realisation of having to work within FFP, who knows….

Crying out of relief.  Was preparing himself to run from adversity as the Alabama Pension Fund boss lined him up to make him squeal like a hog!!

8 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Know for a fact if you hadn’t gone up this season you were in some shit financially, first team departments like sport science, analysis, medical would have been facing a 50% budget cut if you didn’t go up 

…Suffolk’s ITK ??????????

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I like Ippo, a good friend of mine is an Ippo fan so that sways me a bit. I have no problem with them and the Ashton thing has been done to death on here. I told him that Ashton was given far too much control  here and that was part of the problem and watch him if he has a free run with financial control.

He is talking about play offs next year already, just promoted so give him his dreams, but its a massive gulf now between league 1 and the championship, saying that, I wish them (except MA) well next season.

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On 28/04/2023 at 21:36, GrahamC said:

We had the success bit under LJ, Man U win etc, but you’re spot on, as soon as results start to dip then he’ll soon go missing.

“I’d love to come back on the show, Geoff”…

Let’s face it getting out of L1 spending money like water is no achievement at all. Cotts is supposed to have done that but he sold Sam Baldock for £2m & balanced the books, no £1m full backs in his side.

As his recruitment being “amazing”, several of his initial signings there like Pigott & Harper are already out on loan elsewhere.

Bloke’s a *** & will get slaughtered in BS3 when we play them next season.

Well said Graham. 

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Maybe I'm in a minority here but, Mark Ashton aside, I don't wish any ill on Ipswich.  Nice club with an incredible history given the size of the town its based in. Also, one of the two sides that played a fundraising match for us in '82 when we were in deep do-do.  Their fans coming on here have usually been polite and literate.

By contrast, I can't join in the love-in for Plymouth others are indulging in on another thread. Their fans have generally proved to be utter bells when they visit our forums and our city. 

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18 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

My mate, who is an ITFC season ticket holder, reliably informs me that Ashton was crying post final whistle today.

Whether that was emotion or the realisation of having to work within FFP, who knows….

Only because he was denied permission to parade around the perimeter. giving it the big fist pump.

Sorry Mr Narcissit Ashton, it's not always about you.

But it will be if/when you come to Ashton Hate next season.

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18 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Only because he was denied permission to parade around the perimeter. giving it the big fist pump.

Sorry Mr Narcissit Ashton, it's not always about you.

But it will be if/when you come to Ashton Hate next season.

Do you think so? Do you think that, outside of this board, the average fan knows or cares who he is? I am not so sure.

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4 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

Do you think so? Do you think that, outside of this board, the average fan knows or cares who he is? I am not so sure.

Unless they've buried their collective heads up his hairy arse, I'd hope they'd have some idea of his legacy.

The sooner we scrub all evidence of his DNA from the club, the better.

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Got to add 3 of Southampton, Everton, Leicester, Forest and Leeds. More than likely all would be competitive. Big difference between league 1 and championship and teams at this level will probably be better equipped for their style of play.

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31 minutes ago, Rob k said:

Not sure I’ve wanted to beat a non rival football club as much as i want to beat Ipswich and that utter **** next season. 

Indeed. With a bit of luck they will struggle and go straight back down next season ?

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1 hour ago, Dredd said:

It's all good giving it the 'what you saying about Ashton now then Bristol City' biggun. Come back in 3/4 years. 
Mark my words, he's gambling on selling someone for big money or another promotion 

It's the way the bloke operates. Does and says all the right things and then it starts unravelling in time. We were warned loud and clear by Watford fans.....and they weren't wrong. There is always a chance that Swiss has refined his technique and learned from a few mistakes but it certainly isn't something I would put the house on. I wouldn't even put a ******* dolls house on it to be honest.

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I know nothing but ...
Mullin joined Wrexham partly to be near his family and Cambridge was too far .
Ipswich is 60 miles further from Wrexham.
He's 28 and just had 2 years in Non League.
He's had 1 good year at L2 level and 2 at National League level. 
Yep £5M sounds a real Mark Ashton move

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29 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Well if "SecretAgentFL" says it, that's good enough for me...

Well if everyone knew it wouldn't be a secret...

Always trust anyone who has a name/handle with "secret" and also "DeAlien".

Names you can trust.

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44 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I know nothing but ...
Mullin joined Wrexham partly to be near his family and Cambridge was too far .
Ipswich is 60 miles further from Wrexham.
He's 28 and just had 2 years in Non League.
He's had 1 good year at L2 level and 2 at National League level. 
Yep £5M sounds a real Mark Ashton move

Both him and Scott for 10m - bargain! ?

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There’s a lot to slate Ashton for. However, this isn’t one and it’s embarrassing anyone fell for it. The account is, to be frank, horseshit. The Mullin story made no sense (having moved from Cambridge to Wrexham in part to be closer to family - obviously the £ helped also), and a cursory look at the account shows the following bullshit…

 

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7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

There’s a lot to slate Ashton for. However, this isn’t one and it’s embarrassing anyone fell for it. The account is, to be frank, horseshit. The Mullin story made no sense (having moved from Cambridge to Wrexham in part to be closer to family - obviously the £ helped also), and a cursory look at the account shows the following bullshit…

 

He's just missing Aaron Collins for £5M to Wrexham for a full house.

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18 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

There’s a lot to slate Ashton for. However, this isn’t one and it’s embarrassing anyone fell for it. The account is, to be frank, horseshit. The Mullin story made no sense (having moved from Cambridge to Wrexham in part to be closer to family - obviously the £ helped also), and a cursory look at the account shows the following bullshit…

 

Of course it's nonsense* but any opportunity to take the piss out of Ashton has to be taken.?

*Though the Ipswich fan who thinks they could sign Alex probably believes it.

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1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

There’s a lot to slate Ashton for. However, this isn’t one and it’s embarrassing anyone fell for it. The account is, to be frank, horseshit. The Mullin story made no sense (having moved from Cambridge to Wrexham in part to be closer to family - obviously the £ helped also), and a cursory look at the account shows the following bullshit…

 

Of course it’s nonsense, but I thought the Djed Spence rumour, seeking a transfer so he could move to an area in which he has a holiday home, was quite amusing.

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On 30/04/2023 at 14:09, Port Said Red said:

Do you think so? Do you think that, outside of this board, the average fan knows or cares who he is? I am not so sure.

I think Avon & Somerset's "finest" will be taking a very different and far more cautious view to you if Swiss decides to make an appearance at the Gate next season. I reckon many more "average" fans than you think are acutely aware why they have had to sit through two and a half seasons of the shittest football imaginable prior to Nige finally being able to make it more watchable in the last six months or so............

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28 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I think Avon & Somerset's "finest" will be taking a very different and far more cautious view to you if Swiss decides to make an appearance at the Gate next season. I reckon many more "average" fans than you think are acutely aware why they have had to sit through two and a half seasons of the shittest football imaginable prior to Nige finally being able to make it more watchable in the last six months or so............

He will.  He won’t be able to pass up the opportunity to be the centre of attention - good or bad.   The slimy, narcissistic, odious, cheating ****

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