Bristol Rob Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Think it's about time he made a permanent move, it can't be good for the fella to keep being shipped out 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fordy62 Posted August 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2021 I hope he has a really successful time there. Nice lad. 25 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Think it's about time he made a permanent move, it can't be good for the fella to keep being shipped out Hopefully he impresses in the Scottish prem which is a decent standard of football, and comes back improved (or if nothing else, more value to sell). Best of luck Tayls. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I thought he played very well in that season a couple of years ago before he was loaned out. Good luck to him at Hearts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Hopefully he impresses in the Scottish prem which is a decent standard of football, and comes back improved (or if nothing else, more value to sell). Best of luck Tayls. Think it is more of a season long trial, isn't he OOC at the end of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Think it's about time he made a permanent move, it can't be good for the fella to keep being shipped out Indeed. Seems a nice enough lad but i just can’t see him ever making it here for whatever reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Think it's about time he made a permanent move, it can't be good for the fella to keep being shipped out Think it will be a loan with a view to permanent rather than to develop into the first team. Edited August 27, 2021 by marcofisher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Think it is more of a season long trial, isn't he OOC at the end of the season? No, got 2 years left….and a year option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, got 2 years left….and a year option! Blimey! He could qualify for a testimonial at this rate. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Nice lad but was hoping this would be perm for both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Surely we need a centre back now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 We play 2 CBs, we have 3 bona fide (Kalas, Baker and Atkinson), plus (debate and discuss) Vyner and Cundy (who should be fit shortly). The Vyner - RB or CB - question is creating confusion I guess. so I don’t know the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Offside said: I thought he played very well in that season a couple of years ago before he was loaned out. Good luck to him at Hearts. That stupid loan to blackpool did neither him nor us any favours. That was the time for a run in the side. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mendip City said: That stupid loan to blackpool did neither him nor us any favours. That was the time for a run in the side. Agree. Was a kick in the teeth I can imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mendip City said: That stupid loan to blackpool did neither him nor us any favours. That was the time for a run in the side. Completely agree. He deserved to be given a run based on his performances. I haven’t seen enough of him since then to comment on his form since, but based on posts on here it really seemed to set him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBCFC Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I would rather we had kept him as 3rd/4th CB than Baker personally. Some solid performances over the years but never really given a proper chance. Expect him to do well at Hearts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffleflap Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I just can't see him getting much better. Hopefully he impresses enough for them to sign him permanently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Waffleflap said: I just can't see him getting much better. Hopefully he impresses enough for them to sign him permanently People said similar about Bobby and he turned out ok 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, LondonBCFC said: I would rather we had kept him as 3rd/4th CB than Baker personally. Some solid performances over the years but never really given a proper chance. Expect him to do well at Hearts Would rather he was given an opportunity at right back... Still,,, Edinburgh not a bad place to live for a while,silver lining & all that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffleflap Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, WarksRobin said: People said similar about Bobby and he turned out ok Sometimes it happens , and most of the time it doesn't. For a centre half you need to made from other stuff. He could flourish later on in his career but I just don't see it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, WarksRobin said: People said similar about Bobby and he turned out ok It did take 9 years as a midfield player that saw him do very little before LJ decided to stick him up top however. Wasn't Moore originally a midfielder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Son of Fred said: Would rather he was given an opportunity at right back... Still,,, Edinburgh not a bad place to live for a while,silver lining & all that. For the first time we can’t say “why would a player choose them, it’s a sh1thole”….Edinburgh is lovely. 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: We need 4 centre backs so hopefully Cundy is back soon. Vyner being a right back now should just stay there. Vyner is not dominant enough to be at centre back in a 2 anyway imo. And it's not like we want to be in a situation where Simpson has to play every game because Vyner is needed in the centre. In 5 months Simpson will be 35. Going by Cundy's performances on loan I would trust him. He wins everything in the air and at that level showed signs he can read the game well. Looked aggressive but also often composed enough at the right moments. Not the quickest but he is someone who looks like he enjoys defending, throwing himself in front of shots etc. He's no Atkinson in possession but competent enough to not be a liability with the ball at his feet. Hard to know if these things are the same at a much improved level. People were talking about possible league one centre back signings at the end of last season. Atkinson was first on my list, and Cundy would have been up there if he weren't already our player. He's only 24. He's been compared to Aden Flint by Tins. Flint was 24 in his first season with us and look how much he improved in the 3 or 4 years after that. Many tall centre backs, rather like tall target man strikers develop a lot in their late 20s as they become stronger. For Taylor Moore this loan is for the best. When younger the problem seemed to be he was too lightweight. He had some loans away and put on a lot of muscle, he is now physically strong. But he is still not dominant in the air, he is also quite slow. He doesn't have much spring in his leap, but the main thing is he lacks aggression. He can also switch off too often, and once he makes a mistake he can lose all confidence. He can look class on a good day, but we never know what player will show up. There isn't many of those very good performances I can think of. Centre backs need to be at a good reliable level consistently. It's not impossible that Moore can do well there and come back and be in Pearson's plans. Like Cundy he is 24 and can get better. But it will surprise me if he is in Pearson's plans for next season. Hearts will be another team to watch this season to see how one of our players is performing, but its probably more in hoping clubs will be interested in taking him off us permanently next summer. Agree with pretty much all of that. Not so sure that Cundy would necessarily be on our radar this summer had he not been ours, think you’d be taking Gillingham’s style into account too. Might’ve been one to watch this season. But as you say 24 is no age for the type of CB he is, whereas Moore is very different. Moore has lost sharpness by becoming “bigger”. I suspect he’s quick over a longer distance, but it’s that short, sharp stuff he’s degraded on. I don’t see Moore coming back and playing a part, from what Nige has said about loaning our players out, this is a “I don’t need him” loan. Cundy is much more a Nige type CB….but he needs to show Nige what he can do once back in full training. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Fordy62 said: Nice lad. 5 hours ago, bris red said: Seems a nice enough lad 4 hours ago, One Team said: Nice lad 1 hour ago, Bristol_Badger said: Lovely lad. Has there ever been another player in OTIB history to be inevitably spoken of like this every time he is mentioned? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: It did take 9 years as a midfield player that saw him do very little before LJ decided to stick him up top however. Wasn't Moore originally a midfielder? I hereby formally propose that this statistically anomalistic argument regarding perennially underperforming "young"/academy players be henceforth termed "The Reid Defence", and laughed out of court whenever attempted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Porto Red said: Has there ever been another player in OTIB history to be inevitably spoken of like this every time he is mentioned? You can tell he’s a bright,intelligent lad and his parents deserve credit for bringing him up well and I have never met him,as for when it comes to football he will have a good career but don’t think he’s good enough for us personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 hours ago, LondonBCFC said: I would rather we had kept him as 3rd/4th CB than Baker personally.... Baker is 20 times the defender Moore is right now ... Baker is the best ‘defender’ at our club - obviously you have your reasons, but to say you’d place Moore ahead of Baker at our club is a mind boggling statement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 A good mate of mine is a life long Gills fan and they loved Cundy last season. Once fit he needs a chance to show NP what he can do and force his way in to contention but I'd have no problems with Moore going permanently if Cundy steps up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: You can tell he’s a bright,intelligent lad and his parents deserve credit for bringing him up well and I have never met him,as for when it comes to football he will have a good career but don’t think he’s good enough for us personally A touch of the Tomlin about him. Probably too good for League 1, not good enough for the Championship. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Hopefully he will play regular football in Scotland. Good to have the January recall option too, because we don't know if Cundy can be a good reserve in our league and Baker has come back after a long injury. Edited August 27, 2021 by Dan Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: A touch of the Tomlin about him. Probably too good for League 1, not good enough for the Championship. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more inappropriate comparison! How is TM like Tomlin? The latter is more like a poor man’s Gazza - innate talent but too thick to have any self control. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebounder Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Leveller said: I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more inappropriate comparison! How is TM like Tomlin? The latter is more like a poor man’s Gazza - innate talent but too thick to have any self control. He explained it as he would be to good for league 1, but maybe not make the grade at Championship level. That's where the similarity ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Should be a permanent if we’re completely honest. He’s been here 5 years… Not too be rude, but when will it drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneybcfc Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 It always blows my mind that a lad who turned 24 this year is still being deemed not good enough to ever make it at this level when most CBs peak in the 26-30yo bracket. If you're a regular Championship CB at 24 or younger you're probably going to play in the premiership unless you never get any better. Now I'm not saying he is going to make it here or even the championship but people are confusing with how long he's been here with expectations of him being a regular at 24. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatn Over Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Really good attitude this lad has after being thrown under buses, left out, brought back in, loaned out, forgotten, poorly treated by LJ. Others would have been throwing toys out of prams all over the place but not TM just keeps on going with a smile. A long loan out playing week in and week out in a fixed position at a level he can take in his stride may do wonders, possibly NP’s thinking. I still think there is a good player in there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: A touch of the Tomlin about him. Probably too good for League 1, not good enough for the Championship. Do you mean JET? Tomlin is a very good championship player on his day, he's got 50 goals in the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Lew-T said: Should be a permanent if we’re completely honest. He’s been here 5 years… Not too be rude, but when will it drop? As soon as some club makes a bid and he agrees to forego any wages obligation we have. I’d say Nige has made up his mind and it’s only the financial climate meaning he’s still our player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Porto Red said: Has there ever been another player in OTIB history to be inevitably spoken of like this every time he is mentioned? He's a nice lad, but is he as lovely as Wael....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Starting for Hearts in the Edinburgh derby tonight. For anyone interested. Always a lively game Edited February 1, 2022 by Red Army 75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On a yellow after 11 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Forgot he was there! Says a lot that we've had Cundy come off the bench and not taken up the recall option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 40 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Starting for Hearts in the Edinburgh derby tonight. For anyone interested. Always a lively game Got a draw written all over it , Hearts the stronger first half …. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, TomF said: For a 0-0 quite enjoyed this. Proper commitment from both sides.. old school derby game Celtic v Rangers tomorrow should be worth a watch as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, TomF said: For a 0-0 quite enjoyed this. Proper commitment from both sides.. old school derby game It’s a good derby, similar sort of size to ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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