JBFC II Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Akira said: Absolutely ******* embarrassing. How on earth can you say you wouldn't be upset about one of the best managers we've had, be gone? Yet previous managers with far worse CV's have been given crazy amount of time to turn things around. We're finally playing decent football. I like the direction we're heading. The progress our youngsters are making is absolutely fantastic to watch. We were unlucky tonight in my view, both teams had chances to get more goals than they did. To question the manager is embarrassing, and so typical of some of our fans. Rome wasn't built in a day. Too many knee jerk reactions on here, but to claim Pearson is ‘one of the best managers we’ve had’ with his record thus far is interesting… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Im just thankful we have the high performance centre so we can enjoy kalas’s throw ins, our dynamic attacking play, and pearsons superb winning record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 We didn't play well but we also didn't lose. It happens. Onto the next game. Win at QPR and Evey ones happy again. COYR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Akira said: Absolutely ******* embarrassing. How on earth can you say you wouldn't be upset about one of the best managers we've had, be gone? Yet previous managers with far worse CV's have been given crazy amount of time to turn things around. We're finally playing decent football. I like the direction we're heading. The progress our youngsters are making is absolutely fantastic to watch. We were unlucky tonight in my view, both teams had chances to get more goals than they did. To question the manager is embarrassing, and so typical of some of our fans. Rome wasn't built in a day. I'm with you some of the way, but playing decent football ? To be fair in 55 years of watching there haven't been many seasons when i have thought we looked easy on the eye, maybe 7or 8 seasons out of that. Most seasons the away team always seem to have had more flair. Maybe its just me? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: Yep, and they shout the loudest as each whinger starts a new thread, so it seems like there’s lots of unrest. Hopefully most can see that this rebuild is a huge job for anyone to take on. Obvious to anyone with more than a few working brain cells. If you want it all now be prepared for disappointment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Too many knee jerk reactions on here, but to claim Pearson is ‘one of the best managers we’ve had’ with his record thus far is interesting… With his proven CV, I don't recall us having too many managers with promotions to the Premier league 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Yes we played poor, and yes conceding a late equaliser is like being kicked in the nards by a horse. But we’re 12th, which after last year would mark a very successful season should we finish there. We’re improving, this was just a bad night. Onto QPR, COYR. Away thank god 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Akira said: With his proven CV, I don't recall us having too many managers with promotions to the Premier league Since then though, his CV has hardly been glowing. There’s little point claiming someone is ‘one of our best managers’ just based off of his CV and not how he performs here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Akira said: With his proven CV, I don't recall us having too many managers with promotions to the Premier league Proven CV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: I'm with you some of the way, but playing decent football ? To be fair in 55 years of watching there haven't been many seasons when i have thought we looked easy on the eye, maybe 7or 8 seasons out of that. Most seasons the away team always seem to have had more flair. Maybe its just me? Haven't quite worked out how to multi quote, so apologies. Decent football given what we were left with under Johnson and Holden. At least you can see the plan, see what he's trying to do. And some of our play has been decent, much better than last few years at least. Theres always going to be 'off' games, tonight we weren't brilliant, but I still found us playing some decent stuff at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, RedHienz said: 12 months ago we would of lost that, striker short of a decent side and will be safe come August. So many fantasists thinking this is football manager. Chill. Sounds to me like we were very lucky we didn't lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: Proven CV Does he not have a proven CV? You can laugh, but you're the one looking like a mug calling for the manager to be sacked after we've DRAWN a game ffs. Edited September 15, 2021 by Akira 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I hate threads like this. Shite post but it gets lots of attention because it’s a shite post… Bin it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Akira said: Does he not have a proven CV? You can laugh, but you're the one looking like a mug calling for the manager to be sacked after we've DRAWN a game ffs. Pearsons record for us must be about the worst in the history of the club. He might have been good for leicester, but for us, its been pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Just8 said: It's time to realise that a major investment in new players would be suicidal given FFP and the current financial climate. Plus the High performance centre probably cost a few bob... We need better players to compete in this league otherwise we are going to and have struggled to get results and performance. The expectation of most fans and now it seems the club is just to survive in this division. Where is Bristol City at the moment, I would say we are a poor Championship club. I like Pearson but he can only do so much with the tools at his disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Akira said: Does he not have a proven CV? You can laugh, but you're the one looking like a mug calling for the manager to be sacked after we've DRAWN a game ffs. 2 promotions in 13 years isn't exactly a proven CV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 46 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: Pearson just isn't the man for this. It's easy to blame Ashton etc but this team, the way we play and the mentality is ******* dire and doesn't seem to be improving. I wouldn't be too upset to see him gone anytime soon As per the title - Is it time to admit..... I will have a go at filling in the blanks for you that you have not got a fugking clue what you are talking about 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon bristol said: Pearsons record for us must be about the worst in the history of the club. He might have been good for leicester, but for us, its been pathetic. 2 defeats from 7 this season. Not the worst start to a season by a long way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I’m not too sure what people were expecting from this season. Before the season started the consensus seemed to be that most would be happy with mid-table. We’d win a few, lose a few and draw a few. Not enough for playoffs but not bad enough to go down. We look to be basically achieving that as things stand. What has changed from people’s pre-season expectations? I get that it’s disappointing that we haven’t won at home and I think many City fans feel Luton are the sort of team we should be beating. Doesn’t work like that though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Phileas Fogg said: I’m not too sure what people were expecting from this season. Before the season started the consensus seemed to be that most would be happy with mid-table. We’d win a few, lose a few and draw a few. Not enough for playoffs but not bad enough to go down. We look to be basically achieving that as things stand. What has changed from people’s pre-season expectations? I get that it’s disappointing that we haven’t won at home and I think many City fans feel Luton are the sort of team we should be beating. Doesn’t work like that though. I was expecting us to stay in the division and avoid relegation. A season of consolidation with a few scares along the way. What I have seen so far has been encouraging and I think my expectations will be met. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Drawing like we did tonight in stoppage time is an absolute gutter, sickening even, but we knew what was coming this year and the rebuild that is necessary after being completely shafted by the exploits of previous encumbants and the fact NP has had f all money. Games like tonight are unfortunately to be expected for the rest of the season. Would’ve lost it last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: 2 defeats from 7 this season. Not the worst start to a season by a long way. He's won 4 games in 7 months. 4 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: 2 defeats from 7 this season. Not the worst start to a season by a long way. He's won 4 games in 7 months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, BasSavage88 said: He's won 4 games in 7 months. Do you understand what has gone on at City over the last year and across the wider football community? I’m guessing not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 45 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Yep. And a watched pot always boils. I always look out for that swallow at the start of summer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, BasSavage88 said: He's won 4 games in 7 months. He's won 4 games in 7 months. Are we including the close season in that? I am worried about this season. We stayed in the division last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: Proven CV Okay, I think we can see that you've no interest in a sensible, factual discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, lenred said: Do you understand what has gone on at City over the last year and across the wider football community? I’m guessing not. Right so just so I can keep a tally. The reasons it's not Pearson's fault we are shit. Covid Money Steve lansdown. Mark Ashton Nakhi wells. The players. 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: Okay, I think we can see that you've no interest in a sensible, factual discussion. In what world does a man with 2 promotions (1 from this league) in 13 years become a proven CV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, BasSavage88 said: Right so just so I can keep a tally. The reasons it's not Pearson's fault we are shit. Covid Money Steve lansdown. Mark Ashton Nakhi wells. The players. We’ve should’ve done that other thing, you know the other thing you said…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I’m pretty sure NP said it would take 3 years and having seen all the matches this season with the exception of Blackpool at home I think he is not far wrong - This team isn’t going to be improved overnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, BasSavage88 said: Right so just so I can keep a tally. The reasons it's not Pearson's fault we are shit. Covid Money Steve lansdown. Mark Ashton Nakhi wells. The players. In what world does a man with 2 promotions (1 from this league) in 13 years become a proven CV And your suggestion to improve upon where we currently are is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 We are boring but difficult to beat. Circumstances dictate this. This season is about staying up, no more no less. We'll be bored shirtless but needs must. Next summer there will be scope to mould the squad more to his liking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 After ploughing my way through all this, I just wish that all the posters that are jumping up & down & calling for NP's head would **** off & support the blue few, then they will really have something to cry about. This was never going to be a quick transition from the dire position we found ourselves in, NP has to be given the time & adequate funds when they become available. In the meantime please stop acting like spoilt clueless brats 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1. We’re 12th not 24th 2. We seem to have players who are decent at counter attacking, but less good at breaking teams down (see Weimann), hence we’re good away but mediocre at home. 3. Home games are attended by more… home fans, so clearly if not so good at home, perception maybe below reality, given 3 points for a win is 3 points for a win in Cardiff as well as Bristol. 4. Thought tonight was miles better than last season, whilst still not being very good. Less sitting back on the lead, decent intent, lack of quality final third, silly howler at the end. 5. Pretty sure Luton were trying as well. Overall can see the trends so far continuing, more points away than at home, but enough points overall. Not ideal as home attendances may dwindle, but hopefully the training pitch can unlock some further improvements and if not, think it’s new players that we’ll need more than a new manager. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I was sitting there tonight in the Dolman, looking on, looking around, and one thought kept on going through my mind: we are so boring - is this what the winter looks like… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Pearson has done great so far this season if you ask me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 So I have what I believe is a few neutral points for tonight. Bentley made a poor save first half tonight which was down his throat and he palmed it in to the danger area, for their striker to miss a sitter. kalas was very solid tonight, first half especially. Atkinson also got his body in the way of most crosses. I thought Massengo and James were solid but unspectacular. Done what they needed to and Massengo more of the clearing up work, whilst James more of the start of attacks. I enjoyed an early sub as Pearson recognised Scott wasn’t effective and was pro-active. I thought Dasilva for Pring wasn’t a bad move as Pring wasn’t effective tonight - as much as he has been the last 2 games. I thought but Bentley was poor in the air and could do with a more decisive keeper in these situations to claim an easy cross. altogether I’d give a 6/10, they probably had better chances to win it but it’s always depressing when’s we concede late. We are cursed at home and frustrating we can’t get a win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Ain't his fault yet, still seeing improvements, football at the end of the day isnt anyone's right to win a game and if your seriously telling me you wouldn't have taken a draw at half time after they could of easily been 3-0 up. Is this a step forward from last year... Absolutely! Should we give him time.. again absolutely! Yes he will make the odd bad call,but again mistakes will happen(it's football). I believe we are in the right hands, stop asking for his head and for him to leave. Yes home form is really bad but how many times in the past would we of been battered against that squad. Wait til mid-season to pass judgement. We are all frustrated losing 2 points again that way but don't just ask for him to be fired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Waffleflap said: As long as we stay up I couldn't care less. We still need a few additions to the team and we will be able to do that next season. He's got his hands tied. Now Ian is on Radio Bristol. What a miserable man he is. Get a grip Thinking exactly the same thing. But, I'm glad I bothered to listen to such a learned football brain. There's me thinking we were mid-table and not 24th and no hopers. Cheers, Ian for putting me right. Edited September 15, 2021 by AppyDAZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, lenred said: Drawing like we did tonight in stoppage time is an absolute gutter, sickening even, but we knew what was coming this year and the rebuild that is necessary after being completely shafted by the exploits of previous encumbants and the fact NP has had f all money. Games like tonight are unfortunately to be expected for the rest of the season. Would’ve lost it last season. How many more times this season are we going to read this? Rebuild, no money, bad results to be expected, would have lost it last season, progress. The fact is that Pearson picked an unbalanced team, with several players out of position, that played very poorly and didn’t deserve anything out of the game. Is this Emperors New Clothes? Are we all going to continue to see progress, even after another two shocking home performances? We played better football with a substantially weaker squad in the first half of last season. Nothing against the man (except the subbing of an out of position Alex Scott in the 35th minute was savage), but he has to start delivering results. If our home form remains like this, we will be relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishponds_Red Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, BasSavage88 said: Pearson just isn't the man for this. It's easy to blame Ashton etc but this team, the way we play and the mentality is ******* dire and doesn't seem to be improving. I wouldn't be too upset to see him gone anytime soon Surprised you still post after the whole Lyle Taylor thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Slack said: Ain't his fault yet, still seeing improvements, football at the end of the day isnt anyone's right to win a game and if your seriously telling me you wouldn't have taken a draw at half time after they could of easily been 3-0 up. Is this a step forward from last year... Absolutely! Should we give him time.. again absolutely! Yes he will make the odd bad call,but again mistakes will happen(it's football). I believe we are in the right hands, stop asking for his head and for him to leave. Yes home form is really bad but how many times in the past would we of been battered against that squad. Wait til mid-season to pass judgement. We are all frustrated losing 2 points again that way but don't just ask for him to be fired. Do you really think that his team selection and game plan was right then? By mid-season it could already be too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 This sort of post is very premature. I wasn't automatically bought into Nigel Pearson like some on here. I think some would suck the fart out of his behind if given half the chance. He will be judged on results for me but he's definitely made small improvements on last seasons dire performances. You can tell the players are up for it more. We've just lacked that little bit of quality and rub of the green. He needs proper time before we make judgements like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fishponds_Red said: Surprised you still post after the whole Lyle Taylor thing. Enlighten us :laugh: What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fishponds_Red said: Surprised you still post after the whole Lyle Taylor thing. That’s one thing we definitely can blame Nige for, not getting Lyle Taylor over the line when it was guaranteed to happen. He’d probably have 4 or 5 for us by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: How many more times this season are we going to read this? Rebuild, no money, bad results to be expected, would have lost it last season, progress. The fact is that Pearson picked an unbalanced team, with several players out of position, that played very poorly and didn’t deserve anything out of the game. Is this Emperors New Clothes? Are we all going to continue to see progress, even after another two shocking home performances? We played better football with a substantially weaker squad in the first half of last season. Nothing against the man (except the subbing of an out of position Alex Scott in the 35th minute was savage), but he has to start delivering results. If our home form remains like this, we will be relegated. 2 defeats in 7 games this season. Delivered so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, lenred said: Do you understand what has gone on at City over the last year and across the wider football community? I’m guessing not. Has that only affected city? Luton have come here tonight with a team of mostly free transfers, hit the post twice, and could have scored 4, while we have given away/ dont play getting on for 10 million quids worth of players in the last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Tonight was awful though. Slow and ineffectual all over the pitch. If we would have lost 3-1 you couldn’t have had any complaints. It was turgid to watch. We can debate all night about how and why Lansdown and Ashton led us here and how we try to move forward but tonight was pathetic. We didn’t lose 3-1 because they hit the woodwork twice and missed 2 sitters in front of goal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Do you really think that his team selection and game plan was right then? By mid-season it could already be too late. I forgot that we’re 24th in the table with 6 defeats from 7. Oh wait, that’s the saviour Hughton’s old team. We’re mid table. We’re not getting beaten often, just not winning enough. We’ll finish mid table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: He's won 4 games in 7 months. He's won 4 games in 7 months. You’ve got to forget last season, that is totally irrelevant now. You don’t like Pearson, tick, we’ve got that, you can dress it up it lots of different ways, but you don’t like the bloke. You’re turning into the forum version of the bloke who constantly mumbles the same old shite in the corner of the pub, in the end most people ignore him too. Pointless trying to reason with you as you’re beyond that 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, BasSavage88 said: Pearson just isn't the man for this. It's easy to blame Ashton etc but this team, the way we play and the mentality is ******* dire and doesn't seem to be improving. I wouldn't be too upset to see him gone anytime soon I reckon you'll be disappointed if you think he's going anywhere soon. Nige is here to sort out the club, not just the team. Lansdown has ****** up again and needs an experienced football man to put us right. Its going to be a bumpy ride, but I'm more confident we are in the right hands than anytime since Cotts left. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon bristol said: Has that only affected city? Luton have come here tonight with a team of mostly free transfers, hit the post twice, and could have scored 4, while we have given away/ dont play getting on for 10 million quids worth of players in the last month. Didn’t say that it had? But we have had a tumultuous time of it internally over the last 12 months with our main backroom staff basically screwing us over, on top of the COVID implications and to ignore that when looking at the overall picture at the club is wrong imho. Not sure what people want really. What do you suggest that is going to make us so much better than we currently are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said: The answer to this is, we are going to read this until it ceases to be true. All of these things should rightly be taken into consideration. Not sure why you’ve quoted me here? I haven’t said that Edited September 15, 2021 by lenred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, glynriley said: I reckon you'll be disappointed if you think he's going anywhere soon. Nige is here to sort out the club, not just the team. Lansdown has ****** up again and needs an experienced football man to put us right. Its going to be a bumpy ride, but I'm more confident we are in the right hands than anytime since Cotts left. That’s exactly what is happening. Zero chance of getting sacked, Steve ain’t paying for that to placate a few on here, so these people are wasting their time crying about Nige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Before tonight's game, we had won 2, drawn 2, lost 2 and guess what Luton had exactly same record, so a draw tonight was hardly surprising was it? It was a fair result. We would have won, but Bents makes a mistake and we end up with a point. It happens. I was lucky reporting (more unlucky really) at every game live at the ground during lockdown and it was terrible. We all have to admit that the football is improving compared to last season. Of course, we all know that we don't score goals easy, so that's something that needs addressing in the January window. If anyone thought that we would be knocking on the door and be involved in the promotion race this season, should stop thinking that! There are always a couple of teams that 'surprise the championship' but I can't see it being us anytime soon. The home record is shocking as we all know and we are going to make that 15 games without a win as we will not beat Fulham later this month. Enjoy the rest of the season and hope we get in the top 12 - realism is calming! Pearson STAYS and REBUILDS. Could take a while, but I'm sorry to say that's the deal, so let's deal with that as supporters of our club. Tomo Edited September 15, 2021 by Tomo 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Nothing like a last minute equaliser to separate the wheat from the chaff 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tomo said: t was a fair result. We would have won, but Bents makes a mistake and we end up with a point. It happens. It wasn’t. We created nothing of note. I’m not even sure Baker scored. They played all the decent attacking football, sliced through us at times, missed two absolute sitters in front of goal and hit the woodwork twice. I don’t mind highlighting the positives of Massengo and Pring but be big enough to admit who deserved the win. Edited September 15, 2021 by 054123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, 054123 said: It wasn’t. We created nothing if note. I’m not even sure Baker scored. They played all the decent attacking football, sliced through us at times, missed two absolute sitters in front of goal and hit the woodwork twice. I don’t mind highlighting the positives of Massengo and Pring but be big enough to admit who deserved the win. They did have sitters, but they didn't score did they. They missed their chances. We went 1 up, should have got the 3 points (maybe lucky, but again that's football) and Bents makes a mistake. Simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, lenred said: Not sure why you’ve quoted me here? I haven’t said that Yeah sorry meant to quote something else. Been a long day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Do you really think that his team selection and game plan was right then? By mid-season it could already be too late. I do think he said we need to draw more games that we lost last season. He done that tonight. We could all sit here and say he could do X,Y or Z. But you are seriously telling me that this isn't an improvement? Yes we all can be half glass empty but let's be optimistic otherwise we as fans will impact the players. Anyone feel the nervous energy when we went 1-0 up. Wasn't a feeling of we are going to win even though at that point we were playing well. Some of us fans need to be far more optimistic. What happens if we win our next two matches, what will you then be saying? Personally I'd be happy with mid table we are 4 from play offs, or how some like to see it we are 4 from relegation. I know it's a forum, but seriously as a fan just believe. 12 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Do you really think that his team selection and game plan was right then? By mid-season it could already be too late. I do think he said we need to draw more games that we lost last season. He done that tonight. We could all sit here and say he could do X,Y or Z. But you are seriously telling me that this isn't an improvement? Yes we all can be half glass empty but let's be optimistic otherwise we as fans will impact the players. Anyone feel the nervous energy when we went 1-0 up. Wasn't a feeling of we are going to win even though at that point we were playing well. Some of us fans need to be far more optimistic. What happens if we win our next two matches, what will you then be saying? Personally I'd be happy with mid table we are 4 from play offs, or how some like to see it we are 4 from relegation. I know it's a forum, but seriously as a fan just believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 You see fans back in stadiums after covid around the country going absolutely wild and you go down the gate and it's a pretty bland affair. People are upset because they are bored of it, I know I am. It used to be the highlight of the week but now watching City is slipping right down the list of things to do on a Saturday. Not everyone can afford to travel to away games to watch the odd game we turn up in. It's an entertainment business and the club would do well to remember that in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wiltshire robin said: Yeh agreed that Ashton was an absolute ***** but lansdowns just as much to blame for his incompetence. how a man that can rise a multi million pound business from the ground can fail so badly at a football club is very confusing Don't conflate the ability to amass great wealth with intelligence. These are very, very different business's. Edited September 15, 2021 by VT05763 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Do you really think that his team selection and game plan was right then? By mid-season it could already be too late. I do think he said we need to draw more games that we lost last season. He done that tonight. We could all sit here and say he could do X,Y or Z. But you are seriously telling me that this isn't an improvement? Yes we all can be half glass empty but let's be optimistic otherwise we as fans will impact the players. Anyone feel the nervous energy when we went 1-0 up. Wasn't a feeling of we are going to win even though at that point we were playing well. Some of us fans need to be far more optimistic. What happens if we win our next two matches, what will you then be saying? Personally I'd be happy with mid table we are 4 from play offs, or how some like to see it we are 4 from relegation. I know it's a forum, but seriously as a fan just believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I feel like we played tonight like we had a 6 ft 5 striker up front, you know like the one that NP wanted in the summer. Cross into the box at every opportunity, very little playing through the middle, lump it up to Martin if in doubt. I don’t remember any clear cut chances created with the ball on the deck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Alan Dicks said: He hasn’t really changed much has he? Three years up are they . We’re a month into his three year rebuild you clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tomo said: They did have sitters, but they didn't score did they. They missed their chances. We went 1 up, should have got the 3 points (maybe lucky, but again that's football) and Bents makes a mistake. Simples Agreed they are the facts, but based on the game I watched Luton deserved the win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, lenred said: Didn’t say that it had? But we have had a tumultuous time of it internally over the last 12 months with our main backroom staff basically screwing us over, on top of the COVID implications and to ignore that when looking at the overall picture at the club is wrong imho. Not sure what people want really. What do you suggest that is going to make us so much better than we currently are? The obvious answer is to appoint chris wilder. Apart from that, sorting out the full back spots by putting pring at left back, potentially with semenyo in front of him… right back??? Try tanner? Simpson is a waste of a salary. Keep weimann through the middle, give martin some rest occasionally? Will we ever see joe williams again, can he come into midfield and give us energy? He isnt better than james or massengo anyway in my opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, 054123 said: It wasn’t. We created nothing of note. I’m not even sure Baker scored. They played all the decent attacking football, sliced through us at times, missed two absolute sitters in front of goal and hit the woodwork twice. I don’t mind highlighting the positives of Massengo and Pring but be big enough to admit who deserved the win. Did you miss the first 12 mins or so where we should have been 2 up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, David Brent said: Nothing like a last minute equaliser to separate the wheat from the chaff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 No. We sold/released our only goal threats/creative players. It's going to be turgid without any pace or willingness to run off the ball and in behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Apologies for multiple posting, my phone and otib don't seem to agree with eachother tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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