The Coach Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 14 hours ago, ashton_fan said: Just shows we should never listen to the people on here when choosing new managers, another one people wanted was Paul Cook who's due for the chop at Ipswich if things don't improve Still around here Mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Steve Watts said: You're quite right. So long as people know who you're on about it doesn't matter how you spell someone's name. It's like when people mistakingly spell Robbored with a silent "that bloke who ran scared of GJ" or the other common misspelling of "Rovers minibus driver". So long as people know who you mean, what does it matter? You forgot "ginger ****". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Mr Chappers said: Just proves that there is no magic formula when choosing a manager. Main criticism I hear from a Forest fan is that the football under Hughton was very dull and negative. A criticism aimed at him during his latter days at Brighton as well. Admittedly that was when trying to survive in a Premier League relegation scrap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Mr Chappers said: Just proves that there is no magic formula when choosing a manager. Main criticism I hear from a Forest fan is that the football under Hughton was very dull and negative. 14 minutes ago, Steve Watts said: A criticism aimed at him during his latter days at Brighton as well. Admittedly that was when trying to survive in a Premier League relegation scrap. Which is why I always found it quite amusing when people used to say that they specifically wanted rid of LJ because of boring football but then suggest Hughton as the alternative. Don't get me wrong, I'd have certainly taken Hughton last summer, but he's never been renowned for playing particularly attractive football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awbb Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Though I can’t imagine the absolute shambles of last season would have happened under CH we almost certainly wouldn’t have got off to that blistering start, points wise, as, I would like to think, our players would have done a proper preseason. They wouldn’t have been so fresh but equally wouldn’t have fallen so completely to pieces (literally in some cases) as the season wore on. I would also say he’d have still been “under” everyone’s favourite CEO and therefore probably not having the best time regarding recruitment! Bearing in mind what happened, I am pretty sanguine about things. I certainly would not swap NP for CH right now, and wouldn’t have any time he’s been with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 23 hours ago, SecretSam said: ...and she wasn't gross and a total cokehead Hmmm I still would to be fair. Be a great night out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Northern Red said: Which is why I always found it quite amusing when people used to say that they specifically wanted rid of LJ because of boring football but then suggest Hughton as the alternative. Don't get me wrong, I'd have certainly taken Hughton last summer, but he's never been renowned for playing particularly attractive football. His Brighton side in the Championship was pretty exciting, Knockaert, Murphy ripping teams apart on the wings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: His Brighton side in the Championship was pretty exciting, Knockaert, Murphy ripping teams apart on the wings. Indeed they did but every football club ‘manages’ managers differently. Maybe CH had far more support and finances at Brighton than he had at Forest - who do seem to go thru managers at quite a rate. Who knows? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Mr Chappers said: Just proves that there is no magic formula when choosing a manager. Main criticism I hear from a Forest fan is that the football under Hughton was very dull and negative. Same criticism some fans are making about NP. The only difference being we have got more points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Sky saying that Nottingham Forest are in talks with Steve Cooper over becoming their permanent replacement for Chris Hughton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Apparently Chris wilder wants the job( talk sport). Good fit you would have thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Jerseybean said: Sky saying that Nottingham Forest are in talks with Steve Cooper over becoming their permanent replacement for Chris Hughton. Things looking pretty ugly for Forest if he gets it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Things looking pretty ugly for Forest if he gets it. Thought he was going to the Premier League this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Clubs dont seem to want Chris Wilder. Done a good job at Sheffield United. seems strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said: Clubs dont seem to want Chris Wilder. Done a good job at Sheffield United. seems strange. Maybe they do but the issue lies with Wilder himself ? Perhaps he’s holding out for another Prem job or his wage demands post COVID-19 are too high? More likely he’s waiting for Jailbird Joey to get the heave ho so he can manage the Barcelone of the fourth division ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 19:58, Davefevs said: Nope. Yep. All men are created equal in the eyes of King Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Jerseybean said: Sky saying that Nottingham Forest are in talks with Steve Cooper over becoming their permanent replacement for Chris Hughton. Permanent is an unlikely term to use with Forest? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Chris Hughton is a good manager, if given the time to build a team. Living in Brighton I have watched what he did there, a lot like what NP is doing for us. He took over Brighton in a poor position and played negative football but hard to beat, a transfer window in and he was allowed to build a Brighton side that was now playing good football and play off contenders and eventually promotion. This was with the backing of the owner, Tony Bloom, he's not been given that chance at forest to build a team with the support of the owners. NP is doing this now at City, it takes time but I can see the same sort of building at City under NP that I watched at Brighton with Hughton. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, M.D said: Chris Hughton is a good manager, if given the time to build a team. Living in Brighton I have watched what he did there, a lot like what NP is doing for us. He took over Brighton in a poor position and played negative football but hard to beat, a transfer window in and he was allowed to build a Brighton side that was now playing good football and play off contenders and eventually promotion. This was with the backing of the owner, Tony Bloom, he's not been given that chance at forest to build a team with the support of the owners. NP is doing this now at City, it takes time but I can see the same sort of building at City under NP that I watched at Brighton with Hughton. True he did do a good job at Brighton but he wasn’t short of funds to spend. I have always had the feeling with Hughton that he needs a massive war chest of cash to be successful and that probably was his downfall when he was interviewed for the job here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrob Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 13:12, BetterRedThanBlue said: 12 managers in 10 years for Forest, we've had 6 in the sake time period. My opinion on Hughton hasn't changed I still think he is a good manager to me the issue with forest come from the top you can't expect success without stability and they are currently going through more then 1 manager a season. Can you tell some of our fans this please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Hampshire reds said: Clubs dont seem to want Chris Wilder. Done a good job at Sheffield United. seems strange. 6 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Maybe they do but the issue lies with Wilder himself ? Perhaps he’s holding out for another Prem job or his wage demands post COVID-19 are too high? More likely he’s waiting for Jailbird Joey to get the heave ho so he can manage the Barcelone of the fourth division ! Suspect one problem might be that Wilder had a £4m “payoff” which might actually mean they didn’t pay him off but are still paying his wages…until someone wants him and will need to buy him out of his contract. Paying off £4m is not good for FFP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Cooper has agreed to takeover after compo agreed with swansea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, frenchred said: Cooper has agreed to takeover after compo agreed with swansea The next taxi off the rank, let's see if he can do anything without P/payments, because he couldn't do much with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simster Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 09:17, Super said: I don't think he is a bad manager but Forest is a mess of a club and i think anyone would struggle there. Certainly a lot of truth in this. Of course he's an absolute legend at Brighton, but Forest like Newcastle is a poisoned chalice at the moment. His first 6 months were ok, where he steadied their ship and kept them up. Their big problem was their recruitment over the summer - it was a shambles. I'll explain: a key criticism of Hughton is that he is too defensive - insist on protecting slim leads, play one up top against the best sides etc, but that isn't actually fair. It's just that he is a pragmatist. Give him the tools to assemble an attacking side and that's what you get. What I think happened at Forest is that they watched 6 months of necessary but pragmatic, dreary football to ensure safety, and as a consequence the chairman was unconvinced about loosening the purse strings. So the summer has seen 4 players promoted from their U23s, all of whom have been crap/underwhelming, and hardly anyone decent has come in. The result was more pragmatic boring crap football. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Steve Cooper announced new Forest boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 God now we've got to see his face all over the place again, poor bloke looks like he's sniffing glue permanently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CheddarReds said: Steve Cooper announced new Forest boss Did he, who is it? Edited September 21, 2021 by southside 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, southside said: Did he, who is it? Some kind of tree surgeon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Forest are like us when ashton was here Any manager is going to struggle because they have no say over the players they bring in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 8 hours ago, CheddarReds said: Steve Cooper announced new Forest boss BBC coverage….https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58604822 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 8 hours ago, B1ackbird said: Some kind of tree surgeon? Craig Forrest? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Elruliri said: Craig Forrest? Chris Woods 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Chris Woods I raise you Jamie Forrester Major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Elruliri said: I raise you Jamie Forrester Major. I fold .I only have Michael Branch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I fold .I only have Michael Branch. Not that old Chestnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 point from 7 games. Hughton sacked. 7 points from 3 games. And suddenly the Forest players remember how to play football. How very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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