Time to play Bell and Conway ?

[westonred]

As Weimann and Martin look out of sorts at the moment would you like to see Tommy and Sam start up front on Saturday at least their enthusiasm and not stop running could upset the Posh

[Southport Red]

Thought Conway was injured?

[BasSavage88]

Couldn't be any worse 

[westonred]

1 minute ago, Southport Red said:

Thought Conway was injured?

Oh is he shame he's always impressed me when ive seen him

[BCFCGav]

I’d be very happy to see some young strikers tried. Especially while we’re in no impending danger. Love to see Janneh, Bell or Britton on Saturday.

Edited September 29, 2021 by BCFCGav

[RedNachos]

It's the physical lad of the 2 up top we need replacements for, i'm perfectly content with Andi but Martin is dogshit. Britton to potentially give it a go, as Conway is more the Weiman type, while I think (in the u23s games I've watched) Bell could do with a loan and isn't Champ standard just yet.

[ohhhshauntaylor]

Bell over COD, ALL DAY LONG. 

[Bodiesaffer]

Britton I’d like to see give a chance if he’s working hard looked like he had something about him against Brentford last season. Aggression and passion to win.

[Dredd]

I’d like to see Britton too to take a few hits and put himself about. If Wells is out for Saturday then I think one of the young lads will make the bench. Probably Janneh or Bell though

[Silvio Dante]

I think you have to remember Niges view - just because they have a squad number, it doesn’t mean they’re part of the first team squad. And they’re not - none of the three of them. Dropping Weimann is just nuts, and although I agree Martin needs a rest, the only alternate in those three that won’t lead to a ball coming back at us is Britton - and I trust NPs opinion that he’s a way off currently.

[RobintheRed Red]

27 minutes ago, westonred said:

As Weimann and Martin look out of sorts at the moment would you like to see Tommy and Sam start up front on Saturday at least their enthusiasm and not stop running could upset the Posh

No louis Britton the others too weak at moment .

[Northern Red]

From what Nige said recently Britton is nowhere near contending for the first team.

[ScottishRed]

It is the old OTIB standard on Britton, he is ‘one of our own and he is going to be a star’’ .

He is miles off being a Championship striker at this point. 

[mozo]

13 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

I think you have to remember Niges view - just because they have a squad number, it doesn’t mean they’re part of the first team squad. And they’re not - none of the three of them. Dropping Weimann is just nuts, and although I agree Martin needs a rest, the only alternate in those three that won’t lead to a ball coming back at us is Britton - and I trust NPs opinion that he’s a way off currently.

Correct but Nige also said that these young strikers have been kept at the club (as opposed to going on loan) because they were so close to the first team squad so should be all to play for.

Edited September 29, 2021 by mozo

[JoeAman08]

7 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

From what Nige said recently Britton is nowhere near contending for the first team.

 

5 minutes ago, ScottishRed said:

It is the old OTIB standard on Britton, he is ‘one of our own and he is going to be a star’’ .

He is miles off being a Championship striker at this point. 

Yep. Only young player not to be offered a new deal at end of last season and yet he is continually called upon to be the saviour. 
 

Just play Wells down the middle. Martin has been getting bullied lately(fatigue?) and has been resorting to running channels. Might as well play Wells then. The ball been sticking to Martin less and less. Weimann looks like he needs a break too. 
 

Big fan of both Conway and Bell but there are options we haven’t explored that are much better options for championship football. 

[Bodiesaffer]

12 minutes ago, ScottishRed said:

It is the old OTIB standard on Britton, he is ‘one of our own and he is going to be a star’’ .

He is miles off being a Championship striker at this point. 

I get what you are saying and we have to trust NP judgment.  For me he’s the one out of the 3 that’s got something about him from what I saw at the Brentford match, if only it was a brief encounter.

[Lrrr]

Conway on crutches tearing up the league

[Eddie Notgetinya]

Awful shout. Awful. 

[And Its Smith]

Somewhat of a naive post from the OP. Put two kids up front and it would be worse than anything Martin and Weimann have produced 

[Engvall’s Splinter]

The only real change is a switch from Martin to Wells. With Wells possibly injured we are somewhat stuck. I still wouldn’t mind having Britton on the bench - even if it’s to allow Martin to bust his balls for 75 minutes a game. Not saying his the “saviour” but some support for Martin who’s being flogged again !

[westonred]

7 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

Somewhat of a naive post from the OP. Put two kids up front and it would be worse than anything Martin and Weimann have produced 

Thanks for calling me naive i will explain my thoughts behind my post. Weimann and Martin both need a break they seem burnt out and totally certainly off the pace last night (Derby fans said 3 seasons ago that Martin cant play two games a week and as we can see this seems true) If Wells is injured then using Conway (apparently he's injured anyway) and Bell seemed like a good option we are playing a lesser team in Posh so it would be the ideal time to chuck them in. As Alan Hansen famously once said 'You will Never Win anything with Kids' Well you wont know if you dont try 

Edited September 30, 2021 by westonred

[westonred]

3 minutes ago, westonred said:

 

Posted twice for some reason

Edited September 30, 2021 by westonred

[And Its Smith]

2 hours ago, westonred said:

Thanks for calling me naive i will explain my thoughts behind my post Weimann and Martin both need a break they seem burnt and totally certainly off the pace last night (Derby fans said 3 seasona ago that Martin cant play two games a week and as we can see this seems true) If Wells is injured then using Conway and Bell seems like a good option we are playing a lesser team in Posh so it would be the ideal time to chuck them in. As Alan Hansen famously once said 'You will Never Win anything with Kids' Well we wont know if you dont try 

Bell can barely get on the bench and Conway is injured.  Assuming Pearson knows what he is doing, Bell isn’t ready yet.  Was certainly way off the standard against FGR.  Just chucking two kids up front just because they play in the position that you think needs a change isnt the answer. Hopefully Semenyo and Wells are fit again soon. Better off rotating them, Martin and Weimann than playing Bell

[Shuffle]

15 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Bell can barely get on the bench and Conway is injured.  Assuming Pearson knows what he is doing, Bell isn’t ready yet.  Was certainly way off the standard against FGR.  Just chucking two kids up front just because they play in the position that you think needs a change isnt the answer. Hopefully Semenyo and Wells are fit again soon. Better off rotating them, Martin and Weimann than playing Bell

Having watched u23s a couple of times recently & based on that alone Bell is miles off the first team and not even shining at that level.  Let’s just hope Wells is fit and it was precautionary last night

[downendcity]

11 hours ago, ScottishRed said:

It is the old OTIB standard on Britton, he is ‘one of our own and he is going to be a star’’ .

He is miles off being a Championship striker at this point........... 

........ Our problem is that most, if not all our forwards, all too often appear to be miles off being Championship strikers at this point. 

 

[AnumRed]

First defeat in 6 and now posts like this

[Slippin cider]

Can we just have a decent striker please?! ….

[Mr Popodopolous]

Martin needs a rest.

7 hours ago, downendcity said:

........ Our problem is that most, if not all our forwards, all too often appear to be miles off being Championship strikers at this point. 

 

Dunno, think they have 8 goals between them to date despite one of them- Wells- not having had all that much gametime. Some assists as well, but unsure how many assists were to each other ie between the 3 strikers.

[downendcity]

2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Martin needs a rest.

Dunno, think they have 8 goals between them to date despite one of them- Wells- not having had all that much gametime. Some assists as well, but unsure how many assists were to each other ie between the 3 strikers.

I did make my comment somewhat tongue in cheek.

At the moment Weimann and Wells would be my choice as a front 2, but for them to flourish as goalscorer they need the right service and although we are more of an attacking force than before ( hardly difficult!) we just don;t seem to carve out the same opportunities as most position teams do against us.

 

 

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

2 minutes ago, downendcity said:

I did make my comment somewhat tongue in cheek.

At the moment Weimann and Wells would be my choice as a front 2, but for them to flourish as goalscorer they need the right service and although we are more of an attacking force than before ( hardly difficult!) we just don;t seem to carve out the same opportunities as most position teams do against us.

 

 

 

When fit, I would be interested in seeing Weimann kinda wide right but not full on right ie right of a front 3, Semenyo wide left and Wells central- think that could be interesting. If we played Weimann too far to the right that would hinder him- and us- significantly. That aside, agree on Weimann and Wells.

Service can be improved for sure but with a good CM 3- again when fit- of James-Massengo-Williams, Atkinson able to step out from the back 4 and Tanner and DaSilva have room for growth, service issues could resolve over time.

We have options though, Scott and Semenyo when fit I'd like to see more gametime, Wells and Weimann I think have potential to combine.

[Robbored]

Question is does Nige think that Bell is robust enough to start in a Championship match? He definitely thinks that Britton isn’t ready yet and may well feel the same about Bell.

[redsquirrel]

all we need to do is go for it from the off,knock in 4 or 5 goals in the first half then park the bus give martin the second half off

[RobintheRed Red]

2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

When fit, I would be interested in seeing Weimann kinda wide right but not full on right ie right of a front 3, Semenyo wide left and Wells central- think that could be interesting. If we played Weimann too far to the right that would hinder him- and us- significantly. That aside, agree on Weimann and Wells.

Service can be improved for sure but with a good CM 3- again when fit- of James-Massengo-Williams, Atkinson able to step out from the back 4 and Tanner and DaSilva have room for growth, service issues could resolve over time.

We have options though, Scott and Semenyo when fit I'd like to see more gametime, Wells and Weimann I think have potential to combine.

Scott always a good option to have on the bench youl at least get effort and energy.

[GrahamC]

11 hours ago, Shuffle said:

Having watched u23s a couple of times recently & based on that alone Bell is miles off the first team and not even shining at that level.  Let’s just hope Wells is fit and it was precautionary last night

Interesting.

Can’t make these games these days, so what do you make of Janneh? We seem to be playing him as a wing back at times but in addition to the 2 he got at Forest Green, he scored a cracker for the 23s at Sheff U, he certainly has pace (which we lack), not worth having on the bench in the absence of Semenyo?

[Lrrr]

3 hours ago, Robbored said:

Question is does Nige think that Bell is robust enough to start in a Championship match? He definitely thinks that Britton isn’t ready yet and may well feel the same about Bell.

Fitness wise Bell is definitely fit enough to compete at championship level

[Lrrr]

12 hours ago, Shuffle said:

Having watched u23s a couple of times recently & based on that alone Bell is miles off the first team and not even shining at that level.  Let’s just hope Wells is fit and it was precautionary last night

He is however joint top scorer in the league, as he's seemingly getting the goal at Ipswich given to him. By all accounts played well at Ipswich.

[Robbored]

8 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Fitness wise Bell is definitely fit enough to compete at championship level

Fitness is one essential factor but so is a robust physic with a strong upper body.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Lrrr said:

He is however joint top scorer in the league, as he's seemingly getting the goal at Ipswich given to him. By all accounts played well at Ipswich.

By all accounts?  You were there!

 

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Interesting.

Can’t make these games these days, so what do you make of Janneh? We seem to be playing him as a wing back at times but in addition to the 2 he got at Forest Green, he scored a cracker for the 23s at Sheff U, he certainly has pace (which we lack), not worth having on the bench in the absence of Semenyo?

I honestly thought before pre-season he would move on.  But he had a good pre-season and surprised me a bit. But, not enough to think he’ll be good enough for us as a wide player.  He’d be better down the middle, he’s a finisher.  He’s got the knack.  Would at least like to see him central before writing him off.

Nige not impressed with his off the ball stuff v FGR.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

On 29/09/2021 at 22:39, Silvio Dante said:

I think you have to remember Niges view - just because they have a squad number, it doesn’t mean they’re part of the first team squad. And they’re not - none of the three of them. Dropping Weimann is just nuts, and although I agree Martin needs a rest, the only alternate in those three that won’t lead to a ball coming back at us is Britton - and I trust NPs opinion that he’s a way off currently.

A loan for Britton then, cause I do love his raw aggression and would love to see him get a go 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Interesting.

Can’t make these games these days, so what do you make of Janneh? We seem to be playing him as a wing back at times but in addition to the 2 he got at Forest Green, he scored a cracker for the 23s at Sheff U, he certainly has pace (which we lack), not worth having on the bench in the absence of Semenyo?

Is Semenyou totally over this injury he had start if the season . I would like to see him on bench and  used more 

[Shuffle]

10 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Interesting.

Can’t make these games these days, so what do you make of Janneh? We seem to be playing him as a wing back at times but in addition to the 2 he got at Forest Green, he scored a cracker for the 23s at Sheff U, he certainly has pace (which we lack), not worth having on the bench in the absence of Semenyo?

Well he’s certainly explosive in terms of pace & gives us something different as don’t think he even knows what he’s going to do next. Played one game as a full back after early sending off and was very very good. Next game he was moved up front and missed a boat load of chances but was in the right places.   Overall, I thought he has played well & for the wild card off the bench then I’d include him.

@Lrrr I’ll defer to you as know you’ve seen a lot more of him.  As for Bell, just seen him twice and he seems to be playing wide rather than central but as you say he scores & is certainly another with pace.

[WECANDO]

On 29/09/2021 at 22:50, ScottishRed said:

It is the old OTIB standard on Britton, he is ‘one of our own and he is going to be a star’’ .

He is miles off being a Championship striker at this point. 

Doesn't stop Martin being selected. 

[GrahamC]

5 hours ago, Shuffle said:

Well he’s certainly explosive in terms of pace & gives us something different as don’t think he even knows what he’s going to do next. Played one game as a full back after early sending off and was very very good. Next game he was moved up front and missed a boat load of chances but was in the right places.   Overall, I thought he has played well & for the wild card off the bench then I’d include him.

@Lrrr

Thanks mate, respect your views.

For me, as someone who thinks we are on the right track, like you I think we just need a wildcard on the bench because whilst I get how we are now in every game & battle harder, we look pretty goal shy & lacking width & pace.

This lad is raw but we can’t score less than nil so if we are behind late on in games, if Semenyo isn’t available, what have we got to lose?

A subs bench with Palmer, Scott & O’Dowda on it is really highly unlikely to see all 3 come in, (in fact the chances of both Scott & Palmer must be virtually nil) so I’d rather this lad than one of them if Antoine is out.

Wonder what would have happened if this had been a home game?

[Lrrr]

14 hours ago, Shuffle said:

Well he’s certainly explosive in terms of pace & gives us something different as don’t think he even knows what he’s going to do next. Played one game as a full back after early sending off and was very very good. Next game he was moved up front and missed a boat load of chances but was in the right places.   Overall, I thought he has played well & for the wild card off the bench then I’d include him.

@Lrrr I’ll defer to you as know you’ve seen a lot more of him.  As for Bell, just seen him twice and he seems to be playing wide rather than central but as you say he scores & is certainly another with pace.

Janneh often plays wide of a front 3 or wide in the 4 of a 343, powerful and will drive at players but still rough 

[BS4 on Tour...]

On 29/09/2021 at 22:23, RedNachos said:

...i'm perfectly content with Andi but Martin is dogshit.

You are ‘perfectly content’ with Weimann yet you describe the guy who has scored just ONE less goal than Weimann this season, and who has better ‘shot accuracy’ stats than Weimann as “dogshit” ... this place is very difficult sometimes ...