frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Over £100 each to ask the mighty one a question then listen to a drawn out reply when we know the answer Its my club I've put more money in than you and I will do what I want 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 In the interests of fairness it's probably worth pointing out that the £100 is the hospitality for the Bournemouth match, with Q&A thrown in. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/live-matchday-qa-with-steve-lansdown/# 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Steve Lansdown will be doing a live Q&A to guests in the Lansdown Stand ahead of City’s upcoming match against AFC Bournemouth (October 16th, 3pm). There are limited tables left to book in the Lansdown Restaurant for this fixture, so to secure your hospitality package and to hear from City’s owner first-hand, supporters are encouraged to get in touch as soon as possible. Tickets are available from £95+VAT per person. You can contact the hospitality team on 0117 963 0630 or email hospitality@ashtongate.co.uk to secure your booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsKev Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, frenchred said: Over £100 each to ask the mighty one a question then listen to a drawn out reply when we know the answer Its my club I've put more money in than you and I will do what I want You're right, what have the Lansdown's ever done for us? Edited October 1, 2021 by EmersonsKev 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, EmersonsKev said: You're right, what have the Lansdown's ever done for us? Made the club unsaleable, took away ground ownership from the football club while building a huge portfolio for themselves. Carry on the love in 9 4 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, frenchred said: Made the club unsaleable, took away ground ownership from the football club while building a huge portfolio for themselves. Carry on the love in Mel Morris. Compare and contrast. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, Leveller said: Mel Morris. Compare and contrast. For every Mel Morris there is a Brighton owner, Norwich owner, burnley owner, Brentford owner. Weak argument that everyone frightened of change refer to 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Dave Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 55 minutes ago, frenchred said: For every Mel Morris there is a Brighton owner, Norwich owner, burnley owner, Brentford owner. Weak argument that everyone frightened of change refer to I know it’s all relative, but how much have you put in this season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) I've got one, but I'm not paying £100 for the honour. Steve, do you think you will ever see Premier League FOOTBALL at AG, in your lifetime? And be honest... Edited October 1, 2021 by AppyDAZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, frenchred said: For every Mel Morris there is a Brighton owner, Norwich owner, burnley owner, Brentford owner. Weak argument that everyone frightened of change refer to Saying 'but he could've been better' while totally ignoring that he could have been a lot worse isn't much of an argument. We've all got our frustrations at not getting PL football in 20 years but you come across like someone with a real axe to grind. Edited October 1, 2021 by RonWalker 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hello Dave said: I know it’s all relative, but how much have you put in this season? £35 for the hospitality offer, i don’t believe WE seen much of the game though! you’ve had less appearances than callum o dowda this season ain’t you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, RonWalker said: Saying 'but he could've been better' while totally ignoring that he could have been a lot worse isn't much of an argument. We've all got our frustrations at not getting PL football in 20 years but you come across like someone with a real axe to grind. and forever quoting the derby owner who is in the headlines at the moment is no argument, vice versa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leveller Posted October 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, frenchred said: and forever quoting the derby owner who is in the headlines at the moment is no argument, vice versa You’re treating SL as if he is a scheming villain though, when in fact he is a well meaning owner who has underachieved but pulled no underhand or illegal stunts to get the club in trouble. 20 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Dave Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, frenchred said: £35 for the hospitality offer, i don’t believe WE seen much of the game though! you’ve had less appearances than callum o dowda this season ain’t you? Wether I’ve been or not is immaterial, I’ve paid for a season ticket!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Leveller said: You’re treating SL as if he is a scheming villain though, when in fact he is a well meaning owner who has underachieved but pulled no underhand or illegal stunts to get the club in trouble. Very true, I just believe his time has been, but I do realise I am in the minority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Hello Dave said: I know it’s all relative, but how much have you put in this season? 110%, Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 People on here complain that Lansdown prefers the rugby, but when you see some of the ungrateful posters on here it's little wonder. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 He is in no way a villain, just misguided in who he trusts to run and make decisions about the football club, which includes himself. Financial prudence, playing by the rules is great, but there is another way too….as fans wouldn’t we have liked a bit of glory alongside a bit of mis-management, e.g. Tan at Cardiff. I’m a bit mixed on him. He hasn’t given the money to us….I still see it as an overall investment (with the Bristol Sport, land, housing, etc). Others love him, some don’t. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: He is in no way a villain, just misguided in who he trusts to run and make decisions about the football club, which includes himself. Financial prudence, playing by the rules is great, but there is another way too….as fans wouldn’t we have liked a bit of glory alongside a bit of mis-management, e.g. Tan at Cardiff. I’m a bit mixed on him. He hasn’t given the money to us….I still see it as an overall investment (with the Bristol Sport, land, housing, etc). Others love him, some don’t. A balanced and fair comment. Any criticism of SL is always met with at least he's not Mel Morris, Tan, the Venkys or whoever the latest villain in the news happens to be. But it's criticism that's developed out of sheer frustration that we could and should have done so much more with his financial backing. If I'm marking SL's homework it's 9/10 for effort 6/10 for results And 2/10 for performance with the recruitment of MA and LJ basically an expensive waste of 5 years. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 38 minutes ago, CodeRed said: A balanced and fair comment. Any criticism of SL is always met with at least he's not Mel Morris, Tan, the Venkys or whoever the latest villain in the news happens to be. But it's criticism that's developed out of sheer frustration that we could and should have done so much more with his financial backing. If I'm marking SL's homework it's 9/10 for effort 6/10 for results And 2/10 for performance with the recruitment of MA and LJ basically an expensive waste of 5 years. That sums up my feelings nicely, thank you! So many mistakes over his tenure it's difficult to like the bloke now for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 My question would be " Do you consider that the Board , including you, made a horribly wrong decision to employ Pulis instead of Moyes?" With a follow up of "If you had recruited David Moyes at that time, do you now believe that City would have been a fixture in the Premier League if you had financially supported him as you did for another more recent City Head Coach?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: My question would be " Do you consider that the Board , including you, made a horribly wrong decision to employ Pulis instead of Moyes?" With a follow up of "If you had recruited David Moyes at that time, do you now believe that City would have been a fixture in the Premier League if you had financially supported him as you did for another more recent City Head Coach?" Contraversial! You will have the lansdown lovers after you with that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) Bentley, Kalas, DaSilva, Massengo, Williams, Weimann, Martin and Wells. Off the top of my head- where did Bakinson and Semenyo come from- academy or joined as youth. Think Bakinson was Luton wasn't he? A number of these still have potential sell-on value. Eliasson cost £2m, not bad for that...2nd highest assist maker in the division for 2019/20 despite being in and out of the side. All came under MA, LJ and DH. I also think that certain players were mismanaged or had lengthy injuries- lengthy injuries negate what a player can do, it's hard to judge their true ability. Benkovic, Magnússon we did not arguably manage the best, I think it's a bit more mixed. Walsh is a good example of a player with potential but plenty of injuries...a fitter Hegeler, O'Neil and Djuric could have provided more, I just think it's a bit mixed. Nagy started great and then got injured fairly quickly and then was in and out. Someone like Henriksen was better suited to a 3 IMO but we persisted with him in a 2 and then he disappeared. OTOH, Diedhiou and value on the pitch proved to be a disaster- but it would not have been a good look had we sold him in Jan, when playoffs still not that far away pts wise and still in the Cup and just sort of settled. Edit, Taylor didn't provide masses but he didn't cost a huge amount either and provided one golden moment of course...ran all day and chipped in here and there. OTOH not getting fees for any of those out of contract, not taking a hit sooner with some of them was a failure indeed. Lansbury instead of left back, was a shocker!! @cidered abroad While I prefer Moyes to Pulis, it's worth noting that the only major failure over the bulk of his career for Pulis was...here. Something wrong with the club in the past?? Granted he was a poor choice indeed but his record elsewhere for a lot of his career has stood up to reasonable scrutiny. There was of course Sheffield Wednesday last season, just never clicked with him there- 1 win in about 2 months or just under that, but largely he's had relative success. Edited October 1, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Bentley, Kalas, DaSilva, Massengo, Williams, Weimann, Martin and Wells. Off the top of my head- where did Bakinson and Semenyo come from- academy or joined as youth. Think Bakinson was Luton wasn't he? A number of these still have potential sell-on value. Eliasson cost £2m, not bad for that...2nd highest assist maker in the division for 2019/20 despite being in and out of the side. All came under MA, LJ and DH. I also think that certain players were mismanaged or had lengthy injuries- lengthy injuries negate what a player can do, it's hard to judge their true ability. Benkovic, Magnússon we did not arguably manage the best, I think it's a bit more mixed. Walsh is a good example of a player with potential but plenty of injuries...a fitter Hegeler and Djuric could have provided more, I just think it's a bit mixed. Nagy started great and then got injured fairly quickly and then was in and out. Someone like Henriksen was better suited to a 3 IMO but we persisted with him in a 2 and then he disappeared. OTOH, Diedhiou and value on the pitch proved to be a disaster- but it would not have been a good look had we sold him in Jan, when playoffs still not that far away pts wise and still in the Cup and just sort of settled. OTOH not getting fees for any of those out of contract, not taking a hit sooner with some of them was a failure indeed. Lansbury instead of left back, was a shocker!! @cidered abroad While I prefer Moyes to Pulis, it's worth noting that the only major failure over the bulk of his career for Pulis was...here. Something wrong with the club in the past?? Granted he was a poor choice indeed but his record elsewhere for a lot of his career has stood up to reasonable scrutiny. I think you’ve just made me choose my Q. ”when Gary Weaver broadcast on Sky that the Bristol City CEO had told him that owner wouldn’t sell Diedhiou because we’d see our value on the pitch - did you actually say that, and do you think you did get value” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) @Mr Popodopolous Pulis did **** all at Boro, not just us. His record at Wednesday was awful too & West Brom fans hate him just as much as we do. His success at Stoke (built on Neanderthal football & thuggery) is pretty much his peak but even they got bored of smashing the ball down the pitch & kicking the opposition off the park eventually. Edited October 1, 2021 by GrahamC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 hours ago, frenchred said: For every Mel Morris there is a Brighton owner, Norwich owner, burnley owner, Brentford owner. Burnley are owned by an American investment company that owns dozens of different sports teams and absolutely want to make money on the transaction. None of the directors are fans of Burnley. The club was bought with a high-interest loan secured against the equity of the value of the team and club assets. I don't think it'll end well for The Clarets. https://www.sportico.com/business/sales/2021/alk-capital-burnley-debt-1234621513/ Haven't got time to write more. Just off to se the bank to secure a loan to buy Man U using the value of the club's assets as security.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 7 hours ago, EmersonsKev said: You're right, what have the Lansdown's ever done for us? Invaded Poland? (Whoops wrong John Cleese line) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, GrahamC said: @Mr Popodopolous Pulis did **** all at Boro, not just us. His record at Wednesday was awful too & West Brom fans hate him just as much as we do. His success at Stoke (built on Neanderthal football & thuggery) is pretty much his peak but even they got bored of smashing the ball down the pitch & kicking the opposition off the park eventually. Not very popular at Pompey either, Gray, It's worth noting that he did the same during his first stint at Stoke as he did with us: sack off all their foreign signings, bring in a number of unfit journeyman and play Route One hoofball. It was only during his second stint there that he decided to play slightly more nuanced football. Still his many clubs, did at least mean a varied career bench-warming for his talent-free son Anthony Pulis Jr. Plus it was good news for the makers of brown envelopes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, Red-Robbo said: Not very popular at Pompey either, Gray, It's worth noting that he did the same during his first stint at Stoke as he did with us: sack off all their foreign signings, bring in a number of unfit journeyman and play Route One hoofball. It was only during his second stint there that he decided to play slightly more nuanced football. Still his many clubs, did at least mean a varied career bench-warming for his talent-free son Anthony Pulis Jr. Plus it was good news for the makers of brown envelopes. Did he ever mention to you how much work he does for charity? I only ask because if he didn’t, you must be the only person in Western Europe that he didn’t. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Did he ever mention to you how much work he does for charity? I only ask because if he didn’t, you must be the only person in Western Europe that he didn’t. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 hours ago, cidered abroad said: My question would be " Do you consider that the Board , including you, made a horribly wrong decision to employ Pulis instead of Moyes?" With a follow up of "If you had recruited David Moyes at that time, do you now believe that City would have been a fixture in the Premier League if you had financially supported him as you did for another more recent City Head Coach?" Blame Scott Davidson rather than Lansdown for that. He knew that Laycock wanted Pulis and let it happen. Shocking mistake. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 hours ago, frenchred said: Very true, I just believe his time has been, but I do realise I am in the minority He's no schemer,,and I believe he has our best interests at heart... I also believe he understands football not.... Hook that up with very questionable judgement & it's a bad combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, cidered abroad said: My question would be " Do you consider that the Board , including you, made a horribly wrong decision to employ Pulis instead of Moyes?" With a follow up of "If you had recruited David Moyes at that time, do you now believe that City would have been a fixture in the Premier League if you had financially supported him as you did for another more recent City Head Coach?" Unfortunately gave all his money to the wrong bloke out of all recent managers and we've been paying for it eversince . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Burnley are owned by an American investment company that owns dozens of different sports teams and absolutely want to make money on the transaction. None of the directors are fans of Burnley. The club was bought with a high-interest loan secured against the equity of the value of the team and club assets. I don't think it'll end well for The Clarets. https://www.sportico.com/business/sales/2021/alk-capital-burnley-debt-1234621513/ Haven't got time to write more. Just off to se the bank to secure a loan to buy Man U using the value of the club's assets as security.... i would argue you are better off not having fans on the board as it stops head ruling heart! but if that’s your criteria we will have to agree to differ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamalagerdrinker Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I wonder if he will do it again on away days. Seem to remember him doing it at Forest a few seasons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 hours ago, frenchred said: i would argue you are better off not having fans on the board as it stops head ruling heart! but if that’s your criteria we will have to agree to differ Yet you've cited Norwich, Brighton and Brentford as well-run clubs - each run by fans. Mae your mind up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Yet you've cited Norwich, Brighton and Brentford as well-run clubs - each run by fans. Mae your mind up!! Really, interesting thought! Norwich - Delia smith and Michael Wynne Jones Brighton - Anthony grant bloom, major share holder Brentford - Matthew benham Get your facts right before trying to be little someone, don't believe any club in Orem or champ is fan ran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, frenchred said: Really, interesting thought! Norwich - Delia smith and Michael Wynne Jones Brighton - Anthony grant bloom, major share holder Brentford - Matthew benham Get your facts right before trying to be little someone, don't believe any club in Orem or champ is fan ran Are they not all ‘fans’ ie like Lansdown, rather than some random owner with no association to the club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 15 hours ago, iamalagerdrinker said: I wonder if he will do it again on away days. Seem to remember him doing it at Forest a few seasons ago. He did it at Wolves a few years ago, very open and interesting it was too. I remember thinking fair play to him coming into a back street Spoons in the not very glamorous surroundings of Wolverhampton. I’m not sure I’d have done that if I was worth what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 5 hours ago, frenchred said: Really, interesting thought! Norwich - Delia smith and Michael Wynne Jones Brighton - Anthony grant bloom, major share holder Brentford - Matthew benham Get your facts right before trying to be little someone, don't believe any club in Orem or champ is fan ran Erm, I'm not trying to "be little" you. I actually agree with your original point that although we could do worse than Stephen Lansdown as an owner, we could do better as well. You seem to have missed my point though, which is that the owners of the clubs you've listed were wealthy fans of those clubs, before they took them over. I wasn't suggesting that those clubs were run by the collective fanbase. I was differentiating them from Burnley, which is owned by an investment group from America who probably couldn't even find Burnley on a map. They are out to make money from a lower PL club based in a declining Lancashire town, where a high percentage of the population are Asians with little interest in football. It'll end in tears for the investors or for Burnley fans - or both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcnick Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 21 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think you’ve just made me choose my Q. ”when Gary Weaver broadcast on Sky that the Bristol City CEO had told him that owner wouldn’t sell Diedhiou because we’d see our value on the pitch - did you actually say that, and do you think you did get value” There were countless things to criticise MA for but I wouldn't include that one. I think it was just a negotiating stance whether it originated from Steve L or MA. The other option would have been to say "please come and buy Diedhiou as we are desperate to get something for him as his contract expires shortly." In fairness, despite some scatter gun over-priced buys, Ashton usually did well with the sums achieved for the sales achieved (Webster, Reid, Flint, Kelly and I'd include Tomlin as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 On 01/10/2021 at 11:51, AppyDAZE said: I've got one, but I'm not paying £100 for the honour. Steve, do you think you will ever see Premier League FOOTBALL at AG, in your lifetime? And be honest... NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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