Chris Martin

[Jimbo76]

He gets a rough ride on this forum, sometimes warranted, but I thought he was superb today. Really looked up for it.

Glad the old boy has got an international break now to recover!

[firstdivision]

As NP says: ‘I focus on what players can do, not what they can’t.’ 
He can’t run in behind and he hasn’t got much pace but he works hard, can lay off and has a knack of getting in goal-scoring positions when we create something.

[Slack Bladder]

He gives us something different

but I'd still like to see us sign another striker though

[Northern Red]

He's no world beater but nor is he the complete donkey that sections of our fanbase make him out to be either.

He's a useful Championship striker who needs managing carefully so as not to be overworked and run into the ground, which admittedly is easier said than done with our resources up front.

[Kodjias Wrist]

He had a class game i thought he was gonna tire but then this energy came out of nowhere

[Vespa Red]

There's a very (ahem) vocal young woman who sits behind us in the South Stand who expresses her opinion constantly throughout the game.  She has been known to shout "SCORE" at random points of the game - I'm glad she does because I don't think that the players thought about that.

Anyway, every now and again, she shouts "GO ON CHRIS MARTIN, THE LEAD SINGER OF COLDPLAY".  I'm confused as I'm sure Chris Martin is - why is she cheering on someone who isn't even in the ground?

Thought you'd like to read that even though it doesn't say anything about him as a player...

Edited October 2, 2021 by Vespa Red

[kiwicolin]

Most experienced player we have.  A very good player. 

[And Its Smith]

The disrespect he got pre game was embarrassing I thought 

[Numero Uno]

8 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

He's no world beater but nor is he the complete donkey that sections of our fanbase make him out to be either.

He's a useful Championship striker who needs managing carefully so as not to be overworked and run into the ground, which admittedly is easier said than done with our resources up front.

Agreed. Chris Martin is a great pro but brimming with class every week he ain't. However, great pro's are what we need right now with the budgetary constraints Steve has asked Nige to work to. We have to take the rough with the smooth and accept that for the game we got at Millwall we will then get a finish at the death today that had Mitrovic buried it we would have been saying "that's what £60K per week gets you at this level".

[97Red]

Anyone in the away end catch his song? I couldn't quite make out the lyrics, but knew it was to the tune of Magic - Pilot. 

[Red_Alligator]

He's answered his critics in the best possible way today. 

Let's hope he does a few more times.

Well done Chris. Lovely finish, winning goal. Point made.

[RedM]

Great to see the pure joy on his face when he scored, celebrating Infront of the fans. He is a red, no doubt about that.

[Davefevs]

Thought he had a mixed first half, but was really good second half.  Could’ve easily had a hat-trick today.

He’s quite quick when he gets moving

[Dan Robin]

He had some chances in the first half, then he seemed to disappear for a while in the second half...until he made a powerful run on the left, who led to a chance: after that, he created problems to the Posh defence, and a good header was followed by the goal some minutes later. 

I still think we should not overuse him (one of the reasons why I would have given Bell a chance in the 2nd half), but today he made the difference again.

 

[KegCity]

Don’t mean this to put him down, but he’s what we need: a competent championship forward. Knows exactly his role in the side, does it very well and performs consistently. Really can’t ask of any more from him.

[Top Robin]

13 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Thought he had a mixed first half, but was really good second half.  Could’ve easily had a hat-trick today.

He’s quite quick when he gets moving

That's probably the problem Dave

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, Dan Robin said:

He had some chances in the first half, then he seemed to disappear for a while in the second half...until he made a powerful run on the left, who led to a chance: after that, he created problems to the Posh defence, and a good header was followed by the goal some minutes later. 

I still think we should not overuse him (one of the reasons why I would have given Bell a chance in the 2nd half), but today he made the difference again.

 

Had three headers saved in the second half too.

[petehinton]

Wins basically everything. Hold up play in general is very strong. Goal contribution every 2 games so far this season. 
 

Not bad for a ‘Shit’ near-34 year old striker who’s returned from a serious injury!

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, petehinton said:

Wins basically everything. Hold up play in general is very strong. Goal contribution every 2 games so far this season. 
 

Not bad for a ‘Shit’ near-34 year old striker who’s returned from a serious injury!

Still 32.

[Sniper]

Really chuffed for him today.

I have to admit when I saw that Wells was not fit, and that Martin was starting, especially after Millwall where he really didn't play well I was worried, but what a way to ram that down my throat, class finish.

[petehinton]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Still 32.

Meant near 33 oops 

[Dan Robin]

13 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Had three headers saved in the second half too.

Uhm, maybe I missed one of them.  Anyway, he looked dangerous in a crucial moment of the match.

Edited October 2, 2021 by Dan Robin

[Rossi the Robin]

He would be better with more movement around him - we won’t see the best of him until we improve as a team

He’s still a class act even now 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Nice touch, good linkup play and some goals.

Still worry about the risk of overplaying him but he took it very well today, and the International break has surely come at a decent time, good rest and conditioning for our players hopefully and NP too.

[GrahamC]

In an ideal world he wouldn’t be playing as much, but that’s certainly not his fault.

We have signed much worse for higher fees (I acknowledge his wages are probably top end for us, though).

Clever. experienced striker who has 4 goals in 11 games & already won us some vital points.

Be great if Wells was back after the international break to share the load but he’s doing a sound job overall.

[Jerseybean]

His goal: https://streamja.com/05Bo1

 

[Lanterne Rouge]

4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

In an ideal world he wouldn’t be playing as much, but that’s certainly not his fault.

We have signed much worse for higher fees (I acknowledge his wages are probably top end for us, though).

Clever. experienced striker who has 4 goals in 11 games & already won us some vital points.

Be great if Wells was back after the international break to share the load but he’s doing a sound job overall.

I`m not sure they are - wasn`t it length of contract that allegedly swung it for us? Probably on a decent wedge though for all that.

[Brann-red]

52 minutes ago, 97Red said:

Anyone in the away end catch his song? I couldn't quite make out the lyrics, but knew it was to the tune of Magic - Pilot. 

Didn’t hear it - had wondered if there was a song for him  …

 

similarly shouldn’t we have a song for kalas .?!

[TonyTonyTony]

7 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

striker who has 4 goals in 11 games 

In the final analysis strikers are paid to scored goals. At that run rate he is on for 16/17 goals which is superior to Diedhou. 

[pongo88]

Everyone can see what he can’t do but it’s not always obvious what he can do. His strengths are holding the ball and laying it off to midfield players.  Unfortunately, we’ve got a lot of midfield players who hardly ever score and don’t run into attacking positions to take advantage of his positional play. 

[joe jordans teeth]

1 hour ago, Northern Red said:

He's no world beater but nor is he the complete donkey that sections of our fanbase make him out to be either.

He's a useful Championship striker who needs managing carefully so as not to be overworked and run into the ground, which admittedly is easier said than done with our resources up front.

Are you describing Fammy or Martin there

[Son of Fred]

2 hours ago, Vespa Red said:

Anyway, every now and again, she shouts "GO ON CHRIS MARTIN, THE LEAD SINGER OF COLDPLAY".  I'm confused as I'm sure Chris Martin is - why is she cheering on someone who isn't even in the ground?

Thought you'd like to read that even though it doesn't say anything about him as a player

That is so funny - really made me laugh!..

I have had a few malbec's mind

[Son of Fred]

55 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Everyone can see what he can’t do but it’s not always obvious what he can do. His strengths are holding the ball and laying it off to midfield players.  Unfortunately, we’ve got a lot of midfield players who hardly ever score and don’t run into attacking positions to take advantage of his positional play. 

Williams??...

He's on the way..

I'm looking forwards to watching him 100% fit.

 

[pongo88]

13 minutes ago, Son of Fred said:

Williams??...

He's on the way..

I'm looking forwards to watching him 100% fit.

 

Joe Williams has only scored 2 goals in 102 league appearances. He’s a good player but not a regular scorer 

[Son of Fred]

3 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Joe Williams has only scored 2 goals in 102 league appearances. He’s a good player but not a regular scorer 

I'm just starting my second bottle of Malbec & that says he'll bag us a few...

[Garland-sweden]

Good game today. His shot before our second goal, Tanner. Find the net when lots of Poshplayers were near him, well done!

[Lew-T]

Can’t fault his commitment and professionalism. Seems like a good person to have around in the changing room too.

Good finish for his goal today and an even better celebration.

[Robbored]

I reckon Chris Martin has seen the criticism aimed at him on here……….and that’s motivated him to up his game today……….

[steviestevieneville]

3 hours ago, Vespa Red said:

There's a very (ahem) vocal young woman who sits behind us in the South Stand who expresses her opinion constantly throughout the game.  She has been known to shout "SCORE" at random points of the game - I'm glad she does because I don't think that the players thought about that.

Anyway, every now and again, she shouts "GO ON CHRIS MARTIN, THE LEAD SINGER OF COLDPLAY".  I'm confused as I'm sure Chris Martin is - why is she cheering on someone who isn't even in the ground?

Thought you'd like to read that even though it doesn't say anything about him as a player...

Thank god I don’t sit by you. I’d have told her to shut the **** up by now

[steviestevieneville]

45 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Joe Williams has only scored 2 goals in 102 league appearances. He’s a good player but not a regular scorer 

Hes a midfielder , he doesn’t have to score . He got a assist today. That’ll do

[Ska Junkie]

3 hours ago, firstdivision said:

As NP says: ‘I focus on what players can do, not what they can’t.’ 
He can’t run in behind and he hasn’t got much pace but he works hard, can lay off and has a knack of getting in goal-scoring positions when we create something.

The way he tore past their defender today, just before the goal, suggests he's not as slow as some thought.

Well played today though Chris Martin! 

[Northern Red]

1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Are you describing Fammy or Martin there

Haha, could apply to both of them to be fair.

[mozo]

3 hours ago, petehinton said:

Wins basically everything. Hold up play in general is very strong. Goal contribution every 2 games so far this season. 
 

Not bad for a ‘Shit’ near-34 year old striker who’s returned from a serious injury!

Objectively (and less divisive!) I would say the truth is more likely that he started the season well, had a few below par games and then today was (for me, a recent critic) man of the match.

 

[italian dave]

Thought he had an average first half. Didn’t impose himself enough, I felt. Better second half, then I thought he looked like he was tiring. And next thing he was like a man possessed for 10 minutes. No idea where that came from, but great to see!

[Vespa Red]

1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said:

Thank god I don’t sit by you. I’d have told her to shut the **** up by now

I should do really.  All that squawking plays havoc with my tinnitus.

[red colin]

4 hours ago, JonDolman said:

I thought his levels dropped in QPR, Preston and certainly Millwall game. But much better today. I think Weimann had another quiet game. I wonder if Wells gets back in up top with Martin when he is back.

Please get Wells in and that fraud weimann out. Enough. he is a nothing a shirt ,a player that gets in the way ,he has tons of energy yes but  but its usually in the wrong place and I feel we can get a much. Better fit in our team than the undroppable weimann.never heard him mentioned on  commentary today and many commterys before there are  a lot of those days. Commitment yes energy yes but scores a couple.now and again but for me is a player that's finished. Doesn't fit anywhere in the side ,not a forward not a winger he offeres Nil apart from energy ..dissappears constantly, I feel we just accommodated him in team due to his running which on the eye looks good but achieve minimal for team.for me he is a great runner and battler but a  non producer in the bigger picture..I would be looking to bring in someone to replace him ASAP. We carry him most games. In my opinion. Always felt this way. ⁸

[steviestevieneville]

@Desso just spoke to Chris. He appreciates you’ve obviously been kicked to **** in the championship with your  back to  goal for ten-15 Years . Still doing it though. . 

[Judda]

3 hours ago, steviestevieneville said:

Thank god I don’t sit by you. I’d have told her to shut the **** up by now

We all ha e idiots behind us don't we!

I told some to shut up at the start of the season for booing tbe taking of the knee...

[Davefevs]

5 hours ago, pongo88 said:

Everyone can see what he can’t do but it’s not always obvious what he can do. His strengths are holding the ball and laying it off to midfield players.  Unfortunately, we’ve got a lot of midfield players who hardly ever score and don’t run into attacking positions to take advantage of his positional play. 

Said in the week that Martin needs midfield runners around him.  Last couple of games, James has had to babysit Bakinson (bit harsh, but it’s constrained him) and today with a quiet King alongside him we saw James getting around the box into shooting positions…in fact it was him laying off to Martin for Tanner’s goal.

[Mr Popodopolous]

We have 3 strikers who bring different strengths and weaknesses to the side. 4 in fact what with Semenyo when he's fit again.

Some games Wells will be preferable to Martin. Some games you might have Semenyo and Weimann in wider roles and Martin or Wells central, other games might be Weimann central as the '1', 3-5-2/4-4-1-1...Wells or Martin dependent on various factors.

Talking of Martin, despite his strong start he will still need managing carefully moving forward IMO. Not quite wrapping up in cotton wool but a good mix of rest and conditioning in the next fortnight, the International break.

[REDOXO]

Chris Martin is an international footballer and a very good player. Anything written on here that’s negative about the fella just emphasizes the amount of numpties that this place gives a voice too! 

Edited October 2, 2021 by REDOXO

[Oh Louie louie]

Cant be accused of lack of effort.

Sniffs out a lot of chances.

Was in the right place right time today.

 

 

[mozo]

6 hours ago, REDOXO said:

Chris Martin is an international footballer and a very good player. Anything written on here that’s negative about the fella just emphasizes the amount of numpties that this place gives a voice too! 

I can't work out if your post is satirical or no!

[Bodiesaffer]

14 hours ago, firstdivision said:

As NP says: ‘I focus on what players can do, not what they can’t.’ 
He can’t run in behind and he hasn’t got much pace but he works hard, can lay off and has a knack of getting in goal-scoring positions when we create something.

The only problem is he hasn’t got great pace.   

[Port Said Red]

He seems to have an amazing ability to read the flight of the ball, I am constantly amazed at how many times he wins a ball in the air without jumping for it. That gives him such a firm base in a challenge it helps him hold off much bigger players.

[Red Army 75]

I thought he was brilliant second half yesterday. Probably one of his best performances in that half. 

[Desso]

8 hours ago, REDOXO said:

 

 

8 hours ago, REDOXO said:

Chris Martin is an international footballer and a very good player. Anything written on here that’s negative about the fella just emphasizes the amount of numpties that this place gives a voice too! 

Hi Chris. Good second half today, keep it up.

Edited October 3, 2021 by Desso

[DT The Optimist]

It’s interesting that Darren Ferguson also thought he was good. He stated he was a handful throughout, and he had that quality and caused them problems. (His comments on the equivalent of our Bristol live)

when someone of his pedigree says that you have to suspect it’s right. (Not going off topic but always surprised he has not done more as a manager)
 

However with Saturday, midweek, Saturday there’s no way he could last a full season, bound to come out at some stage..

Edited October 3, 2021 by DT The Optimist

[pongo88]

12 hours ago, steviestevieneville said:

Hes a midfielder , he doesn’t have to score . He got a assist today. That’ll do

It doesn’t matter if there is only one midfielder who doesn’t score often, but it does matter if the entire midfield is bereft of goals, which was the point I was making. To be successful a team can’t just have a couple of good forwards. Most of the other players must chip in with a few goals here or there. That isn’t going to happen with the current crop of midfielders, good as they are. 
Joe Williams - 2 league goals in 102 appearances 

H N M - 2 in 78

James - 10 in 78

Semenyo - 8 in 93 (only 2 at Championship level)

The best, in terms of scoring are Weimann with 57 in 335, though a lot have come when he’s played as a forward, and O’Dowda with 57 in 335

There has been a lot of talk about the need to sign a 20 goals per season. We do, but we also need to sign a goal scoring midfielder. Put this new player with Williams, HNM, and James and we’d have a good midfield 

[Fuber]

15 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Thought he had a mixed first half, but was really good second half.  Could’ve easily had a hat-trick today.

He’s quite quick when he gets moving

This. 

Issue is just that his acceleration is non-existent.

[Davefevs]

3 hours ago, Fuber said:

This. 

Issue is just that his acceleration is non-existent.

It takes a while to detach the parachute!  Why do you think his arse is so big, it’s the back-pack!

[pongo88]

17 hours ago, Son of Fred said:

I'm just starting my second bottle of Malbec & that says he'll bag us a few...

You’ve gone up in my estimation. Two bottles of Malbec on a Saturday evening and you’re still compos mentis! We need more people like this on the forum. There is the crossbar challenge at matches, so why not the Malbec challenge? 

[Davefevs]

27 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

You’ve gone up in my estimation. Two bottles of Malbec on a Saturday evening and you’re still compos mentis! We need more people like this on the forum. There is the crossbar challenge at matches, so why not the Malbec challenge? 

@BS4 on Tour... here you go

[CliftonCliff]

6 hours ago, pongo88 said:

 

The best, in terms of scoring are Weimann with 57 in 335, though a lot have come when he’s played as a forward, and O’Dowda with 57 in 335

 

That just caught my eye. That's quite a surprising statistic, or it is to me, at any rate. Leaving aside for the moment the finer points of which position he plays, the guy is, essentially, a winger and a goal in - on average - every sixth game, is actually pretty good going for a wide man. If he's done that over the course of his career so far (and I haven't checked the accuracy of the data - wouldn't know where to look, in fact), then given his issues with injury, that's really rather impressive. Doesn't quite fit the narrative about him being a waste of space, does it? (Which some people will find annoyingly inconvenient.)

And on the subject of injury, I can't now remember the details, but when he had his very bad ankle damage and was out for a long period, it was at a time when there was a particularly heavy cloak of silence about players' injury status. However, it did eventually leak out that he had had some fairly heavy-duty surgery, with, I believe, some metal-work having to be done to the joint - pinning, or a plate inserted, I'm not sure exactly what. I also remember hints that it had looked a bit touch-and-go at one stage whether it might turn out to be a potential career-ending situation, which might help to explain why any knock to that area tends to cause anxiety and a lot of caution about how he's treated. It seems to have been largely forgotten that he's had to work his way back from that extremely serious problem, and has had setbacks along the way.

For the record, I'm not a great fan of his, especially, but as ever on OTIB, we do see some disproportionate criticism of individual players. I notice, for example, that some posters have been coming to the defence of Chris Martin, and quite rightly so, following a series of unnecessarily abusive remarks about a very experienced and capable forward who is deservedly well respected in the game. O'Dowda still has a lot to prove, but he's a better player than some people on the forum would have us all believe.   

[CliftonCliff]

4 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

That just caught my eye. That's quite a surprising statistic, or it is to me, at any rate. Leaving aside for the moment the finer points of which position he plays, the guy is, essentially, a winger and a goal in - on average - every sixth game, is actually pretty good going for a wide man. If he's done that over the course of his career so far (and I haven't checked the accuracy of the data - wouldn't know where to look, in fact), then given his issues with injury, that's really rather impressive. Doesn't quite fit the narrative about him being a waste of space, does it? (Which some people will find annoyingly inconvenient.)

And on the subject of injury, I can't now remember the details, but when he had his very bad ankle damage and was out for a long period, it was at a time when there was a particularly heavy cloak of silence about players' injury status. However, it did eventually leak out that he had had some fairly heavy-duty surgery, with, I believe, some metal-work having to be done to the joint - pinning, or a plate inserted, I'm not sure exactly what. I also remember hints that it had looked a bit touch-and-go at one stage whether it might turn out to be a potential career-ending situation, which might help to explain why any knock to that area tends to cause anxiety and a lot of caution about how he's treated. It seems to have been largely forgotten that he's had to work his way back from that extremely serious problem, and has had setbacks along the way.

For the record, I'm not a great fan of his, especially, but as ever on OTIB, we do see some disproportionate criticism of individual players. I notice, for example, that some posters have been coming to the defence of Chris Martin, and quite rightly so, following a series of unnecessarily abusive remarks about a very experienced and capable forward who is deservedly well respected in the game. O'Dowda still has a lot to prove, but he's a better player than some people on the forum would have us all believe.   

ON reflection, I should probably have posted that on the COD thread, but have no idea how to move it, or whether that's even possible.

[bcfc01]

6 hours ago, pongo88 said:

It doesn’t matter if there is only one midfielder who doesn’t score often, but it does matter if the entire midfield is bereft of goals, which was the point I was making. To be successful a team can’t just have a couple of good forwards. Most of the other players must chip in with a few goals here or there. That isn’t going to happen with the current crop of midfielders, good as they are. 
Joe Williams - 2 league goals in 102 appearances 

H N M - 2 in 78

James - 10 in 78

Semenyo - 8 in 93 (only 2 at Championship level)

The best, in terms of scoring are Weimann with 57 in 335, though a lot have come when he’s played as a forward, and O’Dowda with 57 in 335

There has been a lot of talk about the need to sign a 20 goals per season. We do, but we also need to sign a goal scoring midfielder. Put this new player with Williams, HNM, and James and we’d have a good midfield 

Are you sure ?

 

[The Swan and Cemetery]

13 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Are you sure ?

 

Think O’Dowda’s scored fewer than Weimann (and doesn’t have exactly the same record as Weimann).

To some of the Gerard comparisons made, whilst his career record to date doesn’t imply this is likely, wonder if Williams playing slightly further forward could be a decent goal scoring midfielder? Looked dangerous with head and feet yesterday in forward positions. 

[bcfc01]

Just now, The Swan and Cemetery said:

Think O’Dowda’s scored fewer than Weimann (and doesn’t have exactly the same record as Weimann).

To some of the Gerard comparisons made, whilst his career record to date doesn’t imply this is likely, wonder if Williams playing slightly further forward could be a decent goal scoring midfielder? Looked dangerous with head and feet yesterday in forward positions. 

I'd be surprised if COD has scored much more than 20 goals in his career.

[pongo88]

28 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Are you sure ?

 

No I’m not. wiki shows O’Dowd has score. 19 from 237. 

[Davefevs]

56 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

That just caught my eye. That's quite a surprising statistic, or it is to me, at any rate. Leaving aside for the moment the finer points of which position he plays, the guy is, essentially, a winger and a goal in - on average - every sixth game, is actually pretty good going for a wide man. If he's done that over the course of his career so far (and I haven't checked the accuracy of the data - wouldn't know where to look, in fact), then given his issues with injury, that's really rather impressive. Doesn't quite fit the narrative about him being a waste of space, does it? (Which some people will find annoyingly inconvenient.)

And on the subject of injury, I can't now remember the details, but when he had his very bad ankle damage and was out for a long period, it was at a time when there was a particularly heavy cloak of silence about players' injury status. However, it did eventually leak out that he had had some fairly heavy-duty surgery, with, I believe, some metal-work having to be done to the joint - pinning, or a plate inserted, I'm not sure exactly what. I also remember hints that it had looked a bit touch-and-go at one stage whether it might turn out to be a potential career-ending situation, which might help to explain why any knock to that area tends to cause anxiety and a lot of caution about how he's treated. It seems to have been largely forgotten that he's had to work his way back from that extremely serious problem, and has had setbacks along the way.

For the record, I'm not a great fan of his, especially, but as ever on OTIB, we do see some disproportionate criticism of individual players. I notice, for example, that some posters have been coming to the defence of Chris Martin, and quite rightly so, following a series of unnecessarily abusive remarks about a very experienced and capable forward who is deservedly well respected in the game. O'Dowda still has a lot to prove, but he's a better player than some people on the forum would have us all believe.   

For avoidance of doubt:

Maybe a copy and paste error from Weimann.