HappyClapper Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 My thoughts ? Stand on the feckin touchline shouting instructions. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 we didn't string any passes together… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitchinRed Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Not sure that would have helped (shouting instructions from the touch line, rather an our inability to string some passes together!). Anyone can shout instructions from the touch line. Coming up with the instructions might be easier if you have a better view of the game. Edited October 16, 2021 by HitchinRed 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Fair that he picked out Tanner, Kalas, Baker & DaSilva for praise, nobody else deserved any. Wish they had asked him why Wells was bought on for Williams, cause that made no sense (I would have played Wells from the start). Playing Weimann or Wells wide does not suit either of them. Palmer, or Bakinson for Williams would have made more sense although Bakinson was typically lite weight when he did come on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, old_eastender said: Fair that he picked out Tanner, Kalas, Baker & DaSilva for praise, nobody else deserved any. Wish they had asked him why Wells was bought on for Williams, cause that made no sense (I would have played Wells from the start). Playing Weimann or Wells wide does not suit either of them. Palmer, or Bakinson for Williams would have made more sense although Bakinson was typically lite weight when he did come on. Maybe he didn’t have a clear view from wherever he was, but I can assure Nige that from the Dolman you could clearly see young Tanner have a nightmare first half. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, old_eastender said: Fair that he picked out Tanner, Kalas, Baker & DaSilva for praise, nobody else deserved any. Wish they had asked him why Wells was bought on for Williams, cause that made no sense (I would have played Wells from the start). Playing Weimann or Wells wide does not suit either of them. Palmer, or Bakinson for Williams would have made more sense although Bakinson was typically lite weight when he did come on. It made sense to me if Weimann went wide right but within 5 minutes of Wells coming on we abandoned that & Nakhi was asked to tuck in ahead of Tanner, which was just ridiculous. Might as well have brought on Scott or Palmer if that was the case. I accept Bakinson came on at a tough time but he offers us virtually nothing, one smart pass aside he was a total passenger (again). There was one bit near the end when Weimann charged down a shot then got up & managed to get a tackle in & clear the ball, Bakinson just stood & watched him throughout. I’d rather see Vyner in the squad than him. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Nice to have an honest post match interview without any bullsh*t or jargon 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Maybe he didn’t have a clear view from wherever he was, but I can assure Nige that from the Dolman you could clearly see young Tanner have a nightmare first half. Both fullbacks exposed by clever running and nice passing and movement . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, GrahamC said: It made sense to me if Weimann went wide right but within 5 minutes of Wells coming on we abandoned that & Nakhi was asked to tuck in ahead of Tanner, which was just ridiculous. Might as well have brought on Scott or Palmer if that was the case. I accept Bakinson came on at a tough time but he offers us virtually nothing, one smart pass aside he was a total passenger (again). There was one bit near the end when Weimann charged down a shot then got up & managed to get a tackle in & clear the ball, Bakinson just stood & watched him throughout. I’d rather see Vyner in the squad than him. All a bit shambolic and haphazard, almost as if there is no plan bar the starting eleven - IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Nice to have an honest post match interview without any bullsh*t or jargon This gets said after every game. Not that i disagree but it gets a bit boring hearing the same honest assessments. Bournmouth were very very good but i don’t think kelly and cahill will have an easier game all season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, shelts said: Both fullbacks exposed by clever running and nice passing and movement . Yep, Tanner stuck to his task though, I though Pring was too naive with his defending. He’s used to having that yard of pace to get him out of trouble….today Lowe had the yard on him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Bad day at the office for Nige. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brann-red Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yep, Tanner stuck to his task though, I though Pring was too naive with his defending. He’s used to having that yard of pace to get him out of trouble….today Lowe had the yard on him. Agree , I felt for pring today. Didn’t think he could do much right - still surprised he was on after half time. Hope this doesn’t dent his or tanners confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brann-red said: Agree , I felt for pring today. Didn’t think he could do much right - still surprised he was on after half time. Hope this doesn’t dent his or tanners confidence Pring needs a rest for a few games I think (perhaps a spell on the bench). We have to remember this is his first season at this level. I wouldn't worry so much about Tanner right now who certainly got better as the game wore on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Nigel Pearson must be spitting feathers this was probably the most inept performance by a team in red I have ever seen PATHETIC , 2 meaningful challenges all game , never competed ,never looked like they were out there to try to win , lacklustre is mild , bottle less more to the point ,I’ve seen more fight in greggs on a morning getting a bacon roll , soft touch all of them again pathetic 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yep, Tanner stuck to his task though, I though Pring was too naive with his defending. He’s used to having that yard of pace to get him out of trouble….today Lowe had the yard on him. All a learning curve I suppose . Best side I’ve seen at Ashton Gate this season , very good on the eye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yep, Tanner stuck to his task though, I though Pring was too naive with his defending. He’s used to having that yard of pace to get him out of trouble….today Lowe had the yard on him. I thought it was nice how he call out Tanner, that boy gets better and better, and he is right they were better than us. Our job is to be better than the teams around and below us, there is a gulf between them and us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I accept Bakinson came on at a tough time but he offers us virtually nothing Spot on mate. He’s absolutely pointless wen he plays like he did today. Offered absolutely nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Magger1 said: Nigel Pearson must be spitting feathers this was probably the most inept performance by a team in red I have ever seen PATHETIC , 2 meaningful challenges all game , never competed ,never looked like they were out there to try to win , lacklustre is mild , bottle less more to the point ,I’ve seen more fight in greggs on a morning getting a bacon roll , soft touch all of them again pathetic The one thing I would say is that unlike under other Managers I cannot see this group of players putting in five or six of these "performances" in a row. The fact he's prepared to say how bad it was rather than hiding behind football "jargon" or blaming referees tells me that he won't be playing players who won't do what he wants for very long. I'm sure everyone will get a second chance under him but not a 17th and 18th chance. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Might as well have brought on Scott We were needing someone to 'get on the ball - frustrating that Scott didn't get the nod. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, The Horse With No Name said: My thoughts ? Stand on the feckin touchline shouting instructions. Yeah that’ll do it…. Not sure what shouting instructions would have done against a far superior side today. We weren’t at the races at all but the gap in quality was obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 We just weren’t up for it today. Not going to worry too much about it, but we do need to bully sides more/get a lot more physical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 How long did it take from Kallas wiping the ball with the towel to Bentley letting it pass through his flailing hands and pick it out the net? How many crosses did Bournemouth put to the far post before it worked and Lowe got on the end of one? Bournemouth were nothing exceptional. Even with parachute payments and their stellar signings. Simply we were woeful. Again. The over riding thing for me I guess is how Bournemouth have progressed as a football team over the past few decades, whilst we’ve gone backwards. Bet Lloyd thanks his lucky stars he made the move when he did. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Spot on mate. He’s absolutely pointless wen he plays like he did today. Offered absolutely nothing. He’s played like that most of the season, seems to have lost his mojo, his first few games under Holden he almost played the quarterback role just sitting behind and making things tick and looked really impressive, this season it looks like he’s stealing a living as a footballer, perhaps not as much as Solanke on today’s viewing, but he doesn’t even look like a league 1 midfielder on present form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Totally embarrassed as a long time City fan. We were outplayed by as much as any time I can remember when playing a team in the same division. No fight no nothing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, bexhill reds said: He’s played like that most of the season, seems to have lost his mojo, his first few games under Holden he almost played the quarterback role just sitting behind and making things tick and looked really impressive, this season it looks like he’s stealing a living as a footballer, perhaps not as much as Solanke on today’s viewing, but he doesn’t even look like a league 1 midfielder on present form You think solanke looks like he is stealing a living as a footballer after today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said: How long did it take from Kallas wiping the ball with the towel to Bentley letting it pass through his flailing hands and pick it out the net? How many crosses did Bournemouth put to the far post before it worked and Lowe got on the end of one? Bournemouth were nothing exceptional. Even with parachute payments and their stellar signings. Simply we were woeful. Again. The over riding thing for me I guess is how Bournemouth have progressed as a football team over the past few decades, whilst we’ve gone backwards. Bet Lloyd thanks his lucky stars he made the move when he did. Nothing exceptional? We clearly have very different views on football, easily the best Championship team I’ve seen this year, although we made it easy for them. Tactically spot on, overloads all over the place, really clever quick passing, a cut above us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said: How long did it take from Kallas wiping the ball with the towel to Bentley letting it pass through his flailing hands and pick it out the net? How many crosses did Bournemouth put to the far post before it worked and Lowe got on the end of one? Bournemouth were nothing exceptional. Even with parachute payments and their stellar signings. Simply we were woeful. Again. The over riding thing for me I guess is how Bournemouth have progressed as a football team over the past few decades, whilst we’ve gone backwards. Bet Lloyd thanks his lucky stars he made the move when he did. I would say that is as close to an exceptional championship performance as you will see 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, Magger1 said: Nigel Pearson must be spitting feathers this was probably the most inept performance by a team in red I have ever seen PATHETIC Didn’t see us under McInnes then! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, GTFABM said: You think solanke looks like he is stealing a living as a footballer after today? Yep, looked hopeless as a finisher which is largely his job, had they had a better striker then it would have been 7 or 8. Genuinely their poorest player. Never really rated him, and nothing he did today changes my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpy88 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Quite surprised Tanner is getting positive reviews. He’s young and could be a star but every time a winger runs at him he just backs and backs away. Doesn’t look up to the level just yet to me. can see why teams always target that side 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, bexhill reds said: Yep, looked hopeless as a finisher which is largely his job, had they had a better striker then it would have been 7 or 8. Genuinely their poorest player. Never really rated him, and nothing he did today changes my mind. Fair enough, all about opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, bexhill reds said: Yep, looked hopeless as a finisher which is largely his job, had they had a better striker then it would have been 7 or 8. Genuinely their poorest player. Never really rated him, and nothing he did today changes my mind. Scored 7 in 11 this season and has been superb. One bad game doesn’t mean he is stealing a living. Wish we had him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, old_eastender said: Fair that he picked out Tanner, Kalas, Baker & DaSilva for praise, nobody else deserved any. Wish they had asked him why Wells was bought on for Williams, cause that made no sense (I would have played Wells from the start). Playing Weimann or Wells wide does not suit either of them. Palmer, or Bakinson for Williams would have made more sense although Bakinson was typically lite weight when he did come on. As I have noted in another thread . Why Wells on for Williams rather than Scott or Palmer. It makes no sense at all. I am done with any sense in playing Wells wide ever. No point at all play him central or don't play him and sell. Scott or Palmer every time in that role. I like NP he will do well I hope. But this Wells issue is now beyond a joke or any sense at all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, bexhill reds said: Nothing exceptional? We clearly have very different views on football, easily the best Championship team I’ve seen this year, although we made it easy for them. Tactically spot on, overloads all over the place, really clever quick passing, a cut above us. And that’s the point. We made it easy for them. Far too easy. Because we were poor. Very poor. And I’m still struggling to understand how they’ve progressed to the positions they’ve been in and are in whilst we’ve, at best, been left in their wake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said: And that’s the point. We made it easy for them. Far too easy. Because we were poor. Very poor. And I’m still struggling to understand how they’ve progressed to the positions they’ve been in and are in whilst we’ve, at best, been left in their wake. Never heard of parachute payments? They cheated FFP to get to the Prem based on their dodgy Russian money, trust me, it makes a lot of difference. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, BigAl&Toby said: And that’s the point. We made it easy for them. Far too easy. Because we were poor. Very poor. And I’m still struggling to understand how they’ve progressed to the positions they’ve been in and are in whilst we’ve, at best, been left in their wake. Bankrolled, a couple of years in the Prem, plus parachute payments, more useful last season when no other Championship team other than those also of parachute payments had any sort of revenue. They can easily buy anyone in this league and still get change. They’ve not outright bought success, but they’ve used their money properly. Support and Ground wise they are arguably a smaller club, financially in terms of what they can spend they’re in a different league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, GrahamC said: Never heard of parachute payments? They cheated FFP to get to the Prem based on their dodgy Russian money, trust me, it makes a lot of difference. Makes me glad we havn’t tried it. Knowing city they would go way over ffp and still not get it right. End up with all sorts of sanctions and end up in deep s**t. Lower mid table in the championship seems acceptable rather than that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Never heard of parachute payments? They cheated FFP to get to the Prem based on their dodgy Russian money, trust me, it makes a lot of difference. Doesn't help that our club has had money wasted we've not had people at the club that could use the money wisely.. To many average players signed and we are still stuck with them and we now have limited money to sign more quality.. It certainly does make a difference and theyve used the money to there advantage. Edited October 16, 2021 by Street red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: As I have noted in another thread . Why Wells on for Williams rather than Scott or Palmer. It makes no sense at all. I am done with any sense in playing Wells wide ever. No point at all play him central or don't play him and sell. Scott or Palmer every time in that role. I like NP he will do well I hope. But this Wells issue is now beyond a joke or any sense at all. Whilst I agree, I don’t think NP had much choice, Scott has played wide, but of late has looked overawed and maybe not quite ready, Palmer is pretty much wasted wide. Maybe the hope was for Wells and Wiemann to interchange and be fluid and give Tanner some support, but we never had enough of the game for that to become apparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Never heard of parachute payments? They cheated FFP to get to the Prem based on their dodgy Russian money, trust me, it makes a lot of difference. Yep, quite right but some would rather criticise the team and manager after losing at home to an outstanding team at AG (even if they did cheat their way to the PL) who still retain many of their PL stars. The Cherries made us look poor but no doubt that they’ll do just the same to other Championship teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Scored 7 in 11 this season and has been superb. One bad game doesn’t mean he is stealing a living. Wish we had him I stand corrected if that’s case, he was utter shit against a very generous defence today. Perhaps he’s better when he’s got to work for it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, pongo88 said: Nice to have an honest post match interview without any bullsh*t or jargon I’d rather win games though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Robbored said: Yep, quite right but some would rather criticise the team and manager after losing at home to an outstanding team at AG (even if they did cheat their way to the PL) who still retain many of their PL stars. The Cherries made us look poor but no doubt that they’ll do just the same to other Championship teams. they did cheat towards the end but they did mange to get Matt Richie at just the right time for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, bexhill reds said: Bankrolled, a couple of years in the Prem, plus parachute payments, more useful last season when no other Championship team other than those also of parachute payments had any sort of revenue. They can easily buy anyone in this league and still get change. They’ve not outright bought success, but they’ve used their money properly. Support and Ground wise they are arguably a smaller club, financially in terms of what they can spend they’re in a different league. We managed to stop Fulham. What was the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, mozo said: We managed to stop Fulham. What was the difference? Tony Khan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, mozo said: We managed to stop Fulham. What was the difference? Scot Parker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: Yep, quite right but some would rather criticise the team and manager after losing at home to an outstanding team at AG (even if they did cheat their way to the PL) who still retain many of their PL stars. The Cherries made us look poor but no doubt that they’ll do just the same to other Championship teams. They didnt make us look poor. We were worse than poor and I suspect that if we played at the same tempo, with the same imagination and cohesion then we'd have made any team look good. It's a funny old game- we are so used to abject performances at BS3, the crowd were resigned to another bad day. 16 and counting- what brilliant fans that so may still turn up to swallow a bitter pill. I was happy just to leave the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, MarcusX said: I’d rather win games though Must be just you then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: They didnt make us look poor. We were worse than poor and I suspect that if we played at the same tempo, with the same imagination and cohesion then we'd have made any team look good. It's a funny old game- we are so used to abject performances at BS3, the crowd were resigned to another bad day. 16 and counting- what brilliant fans that so may still turn up to swallow a bitter pill. I was happy just to leave the ground. So was I. Had to get two dog chews from B&M. Highlight of my afternoon. Best value all afternoon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, Robbored said: Yep, quite right but some would rather criticise the team and manager after losing at home to an outstanding team at AG (even if they did cheat their way to the PL) who still retain many of their PL stars. The Cherries made us look poor but no doubt that they’ll do just the same to other Championship teams. Outstanding? Not quite. Made us look poor? We were poor. I guess we all see things differently but I’m still intrigued to know how long it took for us to be well and truly turned over from a throw in deep in Bournemouth’s half to Bentley picking the ball out of the back of the net. That had nothing to do with Bournemouth being outstanding or making us look poor. We we’re poor. Woefully poor. And I can’t see any sustained improvements happening anytime soon. Sadly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, nellie said: Tony Khan 40 minutes ago, Robbored said: Scot Parker. Our performances were chalk and cheese in those games though. Astonishingly, Wells and Bakinson both started the Fulham game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born and Red in 82 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 S**T day all round really City lose at home after a shocking lack of effort I've just run out of beer and the Mrs started speaking to me again today after a couple of days of silent treatment (Bliss) for reasons only known to anyone that is called Wife !! Weekend Over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, mozo said: We managed to stop Fulham. What was the difference? Different style of play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, bexhill reds said: Whilst I agree, I don’t think NP had much choice, Scott has played wide, but of late has looked overawed and maybe not quite ready, Palmer is pretty much wasted wide. Maybe the hope was for Wells and Wiemann to interchange and be fluid and give Tanner some support, but we never had enough of the game for that to become apparent. As I have said I did not see the game and what you say has some hope on the wieman / wells interchange. I just not want Wells wide . I would prefer wiemen right mid and Wells in the central role always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I doubt many would have given us a chance pre match, but that doesn't make it any easier to watch to accept. TBH, I thought we set up wrong to start. Don't know what happened to Atkinson or Masengo, and I thought it was the wrong change taking COD off. Yes I know many thought he was crap, but I thought he was the one threat we carried in the first half. The switch made us even more back foot than before, and we were already chasing shadows. We didn't press with any intent, we didn't keep the ball and we played with no intensity . Williams going off didn't help, but I doubt any change would have improved things. They were better all over the pitch, even though at 45 minutes Bentley hadn't had to make a save. Against Fulham and others, while we may have given up chances, we competed and created chances of our own. Today we saw nothing. I really think we will beat Forest, but we need to improve a lot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: As I have said I did not see the game and what you say has some hope on the wieman / wells interchange. I just not want Wells wide . I would prefer wiemen right mid and Wells in the central role always There was definitely no interchange anywhere on the pitch from us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 5 hours ago, JonDolman said: I didnt even think Scott was on the bench till I just looked! Why on earth did Nige not bring him on. I must say Pearson made a few bad decisions today. Interview was spot on, comfortably beaten by a better side. Not much point bringing on Scott to just chase the ball around. We barely touched it all match and that doesn't suit Scott at all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 hours ago, DaveF said: Interview was spot on, comfortably beaten by a better side. Not much point bringing on Scott to just chase the ball around. We barely touched it all match and that doesn't suit Scott at all. Personally I think Scott has been a bit overawed by senior football of late and has pretty much been ineffective since his initial spark, although in fairness wide right is perhaps not his best position, bringing him on yesterday would have served no benefit to the team or him personally from a confidence perspective. I think he could have done with a half season loan into L1 or 2, to get him playing senior football more regularly. He’s a talent, and I think he’ll be a very very good player, just not yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 13 hours ago, bexhill reds said: He’s played like that most of the season, seems to have lost his mojo, his first few games under Holden he almost played the quarterback role just sitting behind and making things tick and looked really impressive, this season it looks like he’s stealing a living as a footballer, perhaps not as much as Solanke on today’s viewing, but he doesn’t even look like a league 1 midfielder on present form I think Bakinson needs to decide if he’s up for it or not. Can really see his career drifting. Couple of occasions yesterday when others are running their nuts off (as we had 10 men) and he’s strolling, letting men run off him. Unacceptable. Needs a little word from Nige. Suspect he might struggle to make the 18 on Tuesday if Atkinson and Massengo fit, even w/o Williams and King. Vyner can come in, Bell maybe too. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 16 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said: My thoughts ? Stand on the feckin touchline shouting instructions. And what difference would that have made when we were completely outclassed by a much better team. Sometimes you have to acknowledge we got completely outplayed. I never had a problem with our players yesterday in general. We got battered I was more pissed off with some of our fans & you sound like one of them. Shouts around me that they weren’t trying one bloke clearly in his 60’s embarrassing himself with some shouts. Never kicked a ball in his life probably . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think Bakinson needs to decide if he’s up for it or not. Can really see his career drifting. Couple of occasions yesterday when others are running their nuts off (as we had 10 men) and he’s strolling, letting men run off him. Unacceptable. Needs a little word from Nige. Suspect he might struggle to make the 18 on Tuesday if Atkinson and Massengo fit, even w/o Williams and King. Vyner can come in, Bell maybe too. Technically good enough but mentally he’s lazy. If the penny hasn’t dropped by now it never will. I’ll be surprised if him , vyner, Moore & O’dowda are here next season . If we’re going to evolve the squad & rightly as NP says bring in better that we have , then they’re not good enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Bakinson likely to be the player that Nige referred to in his after match comments of “player(s) not having taken their chance” He shows glimpses of being a good player but doesn’t work hard enough as @Davefevs refers to in his comments about strolling about yesterday when we were down to 10 men - just not good enough given the circumstances Hopefully HNM for and ready to return for Tuesday (Nige’s comments pre game seems to suggest that he will) - need him now that Williams is injured Edited October 17, 2021 by Loosey Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Didn’t see us under McInnes then! Yeh and Alan dicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said: Technically good enough but mentally he’s lazy. If the penny hasn’t dropped by now it never will. I’ll be surprised if him , vyner, Moore & O’dowda are here next season . If we’re going to evolve the squad & rightly as NP says bring in better that we have , then they’re not good enough. I think you are spot on, they have been given opportunities and not taken them. If NP wants to build progressively then the four you have listed won’t be here next season which frees up space for players he thinks will do a job for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think Bakinson needs to decide if he’s up for it or not. Can really see his career drifting. Couple of occasions yesterday when others are running their nuts off (as we had 10 men) and he’s strolling, letting men run off him. Unacceptable. Needs a little word from Nige. Suspect he might struggle to make the 18 on Tuesday if Atkinson and Massengo fit, even w/o Williams and King. Vyner can come in, Bell maybe too. It's mad that even in a situation where three of our midfielders are injured and Bakinson has a real opportunity to secure his place in the team, he couldn't motivate himself to get stuck in. Obviously you're right about how he didn't show any energy in his tracking back, and I also noticed one time he had a chance to compete for the ball but decided to back off. I was fuming! How does he not know what Pearson expects of him? It's staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Loosey Boy said: Bakinson likely to be the player that Nige referred to in his after match comments of “player(s) not having taken their chance” He shows glimpses of being a good player but doesn’t work hard enough as @Davefevs refers to in his comments about strolling about yesterday when we were down to 10 men - just not good enough given the circumstances Hopefully HNM for and ready to return for Tuesday (Nige’s comments pre game seems to suggest that he will) - need him now that Williams is injured Yeah agreed. I hope you're right re Massengo. We need him back!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think Bakinson needs to decide if he’s up for it or not. Can really see his career drifting. Couple of occasions yesterday when others are running their nuts off (as we had 10 men) and he’s strolling, letting men run off him. Unacceptable. Needs a little word from Nige. Suspect he might struggle to make the 18 on Tuesday if Atkinson and Massengo fit, even w/o Williams and King. Vyner can come in, Bell maybe too. In one instance he couldn't even be bothered to lift his leg and make a stab at winning a loose ball just outside of our box. Prefered to let the Bournemouth player take it for free. Absolute liability with the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 19 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said: My thoughts ? Stand on the feckin touchline shouting instructions. Find it so odd that he waited until the 85th minute to come down. Game was totally dead and gone by that point, may as well have just not bothered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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