Nottingham Forest at home match day thread

[BS4 on Tour...]

1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

I’m 200 miles away from home with a lovely bottle of Shiraz and otib for company! 

What a combination! Enjoy!

[LondonBristolian]

6 minutes ago, pillred said:

Plenty of managers have lost their job with better records than him, how you can be happy with what's going on at the moment is beyond me fair play you must be very easily pleased.

For me, it's not about being happy. It's about pragmatism. I honestly don't see what we gain by abandoning a rebuild half way through and tearing up the plans again. If I thought we'd gain anything by changing a manager, I'd be quite happy for us to do it. But I really don't think we'd gain anything at all. 

[Bristol Rob]

Just now, OddBallJim said:

Sounds like my kind of night that.

Depends on what cheddars.

Variety of flavours available these days.

[BTRFTG]

On 18/10/2021 at 14:32, headhunter said:

Is that the area that needs most strengthening then in the January window?

 

14 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

Nope we had plenty of touches in their box and several very good chances. Scott and DaSilva in the first half, Wells second. Another day and we could have been 2 up and cruising. That said I think they were are always going to have to score 2 to win at home. That 90th minute onwards is in the players heads now.

We had 2 shots on target one of which was the goal.

We had 1 corner.

We had 33% of the possession.

Fans need to stop deluding themselves.

[LondonBristolian]

1 minute ago, Red Exile said:

I go along with that. This is a season of rebuilding, and with some half decent performances seasons like that can be enjoyable. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory at home week-in, week-out tests the patience though! 

It really does. I'm as frustrated as Hell after tonight. I just think we have to be realistic about where we are at the moment. 

[Fordy62]

Hold on… we’re only 5 points off the play offs…  

[petehinton]

42 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Yeah that’s why we lost!   

 It’s certainly a contributing factor. Wells was having a brilliant game and was helping out massively defensively. Playing players massively out of position whilst holding a lead isn’t exactly wise 

[Lack of Action Man]

1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said:

Depends on what cheddars.

Variety of flavours available these days.

After several glasses of Shiraz/Malbec it’s all the same to me…

[stephenkibby.]

23 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Oh **** off you absolute bell end. 

Fordy he might be a bell end but things are looking grim. 

Our away wins will dry up and then what? We are being outplayed home and away,it's hard to see where the next win is coming from.

I for one am worried that the early points away from home will be needed at the end of the season.

Hard to see any light at the end of the tunnel.

[Red Exile]

Just now, Fordy62 said:

Hold on… we’re only 5 points off the play offs…  

That's the spirit! 

[frenchred]

5 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

This team is predominantly Lee Johnson's and Dean Holden's team, and looked what happened to them, sacked.

Nige ain't perfect but he's a damn sight better than those two. No other manager could get a tune out of these misfits.

Our best players this year and who seem to still be progressing have been the young players coming through - Pring, Massengo, Scott and Tanner. That says it all about this team. 

Other teams in this league would not be clambering to take players off our hands, I wonder why? Not good enough.

A lot of them are not good enough for what we need right now. Not enough quality, not strong enough mentally and physically not up to the task. Once things don't go their way they revert to type and it's same old story Bristol City.

we can’t keep making excuses for the manager, Atkinson, james, tanner, baker, simpson, king are his signings, arguably our best players this season are massengo, kalas and bentley, blame johnson for them! pring and scott were already here.

itstime he shaped up or out

[ChippenhamRed]

We deserved to lose for that umbrella alone.

 

[BS4 on Tour...]

1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said:

Depends on what cheddars.

Variety of flavours available these days.

The ‘original’ ones are best - accidentally picked up some that were ‘flavoured with red leicester’ recently - cheesier than Ghandi’s sandals ...

[Red Army 75]

5 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I largely agree with this with two caveats.

1) I am going to fault Baker for the penalty. Mistakes happen but, for a senior player to make that sort of challenge late on was undoubtedly a mistake.

2) We did not react at all well to the goal going in. It was probably a handball but we shouldn't have been that easy to penetrate immediately after conceding.

Nonetheless I'm gutted for the players. They worked hard and did well for 90-odd minutes only to throw it away in a minute of ridiculousness. 

Totally agree 100%. 

[Bristol Rob]

Just now, Fordy62 said:

Hold on… we’re only 5 points off the play offs…  

No we're not. If you go back a couple of pages, you will find it's the end of the world as we know it. Proper doom merchants have descended and we are all banjoed.

[Jerseybean]

Just now, Red Exile said:

That's the spirit! 

 

1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

Hold on… we’re only 5 points off the play offs…  

 

Just now, Red Exile said:

That's the spirit! 

And our next home game is Barnsley = a defo home win

[TomThumb84]

How anyone can criticise Nahki Wells tonight just has an agenda.

Played on the shoulder, lovely timed runs in-behind, shot on sight which led to our goal, a post-hit, and a great effort from distance. Also held it and rarely gave it away.

We should invest in him. He cost us £5m and we rarely use him wisely and when we do he always looks sharp and a threat. Its the lack of players around him to get the best out of him thats the issue.

[Bristol Rob]

Just now, BS4 on Tour... said:

The ‘original’ ones are best - accidentally picked up some that were ‘flavoured with red leicester’ recently - cheesier than Ghandi’s sandals ...

I have a fondness for (unsurprisingly), all of them. And, seeing as you didn't ask, here is my order of preference.

Branston Pickle.

Barbecue

Original 

Red Leicester.

[Red Exile]

Just now, Jerseybean said:

And our next home game is Barnsley = a defo home win

And I'll be there! 

 

[MC RISK77]

1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said:

How anyone can criticise Nahki Wells tonight just has an agenda.

Played on the shoulder, lovely timed runs in-behind, shot on sight which led to our goal, a post-hit, and a great effort from distance. Also held it and rarely gave it away.

We should invest in him. He cost us £5m and we rarely use him wisely and when we do he always looks sharp and a threat. Its the lack of players around him to get the best out of him thats the issue.

Indeed he was man of the match for us tonight for me…. Although I thought we paid £3m for him

[Ostrich]

Just watched your highlights and what the **** is Nathan Baker doing there? He’d be out my 18 next game for the decision to dive in there like that in the 90th minute, it’s inexcusable. Any manager that has this home record has to have questions asked of them no matter what the context or the results they’re getting on the road. But if you’re 1-0 up in the 90th minute and end up losing 2-1, the players on the pitch at the time are the big problem 

Can’t really tell whether the Scott penalty shout was or not with the angles they give but instinctively the reaction of the Notts player suggests it was. Also can’t tell if it’s handball or shoulder for the winner. This is why I can never get on board with VAR bashing, for all the issues with it, it would most likely, though not definitely, clear those two key incidents up

[Simon bristol]

10 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

This team is predominantly Lee Johnson's and Dean Holden's team, and looked what happened to them, sacked.

Nige ain't perfect but he's a damn sight better than those two. No other manager could get a tune out of these misfits.

Our best players this year and who seem to still be progressing have been the young players coming through - Pring, Massengo, Scott and Tanner. That says it all about this team. 

Other teams in this league would not be clambering to take players off our hands, I wonder why? Not good enough.

A lot of them are not good enough for what we need right now. Not enough quality, not strong enough mentally and physically not up to the task. Once things don't go their way they revert to type and it's same old story Bristol City.

To be fair, tanner atkinson and james are his, and he sanctioned the new contracts for weimann and baker, so thats 5/11 of tonights team.

[RedRock]

The result was bad, more alarming was our inability to pass/head to another red shirt and our ‘hit and hope’ long ball tactics. We are also nowhere near the level of fitness, strength, speed required. There’s no pattern, no partnerships. 

This is a reversion back to the worst of the 2020/21 season. 
 

Worrying. The basics should be in place by now. You don’t need top Championship ‘stars’ to get those basics sorted.
 

Over to you Nige. 

[Waffleflap]

Until Nige can start bringing in a few players of his own then I'm not gonna judge. This season was always gonna be up and down. Tonight was just one of those nightmare moments . Yes we can't win at home but im sure he'll sort it when some funds are released 

[The Swan and Cemetery]

19 minutes ago, Lordofthebling said:

And there's our problem. We just dont have the depth. Martin is knackered, Wells (and I'm a huge critic) ran his socks off, we have no-one else.

Cabt see this team getting relegated. Blood the youngsters this season, I'm looking at next season. 

Looking forward to Conway getting fit, but could definitely do with another out and out striker. We can’t afford a 20 goals a season type, but maybe someone who can cause defences problems and hold the ball up, even as back up would be welcome. 

[Slack Bladder]

**** off Radio Bristol

I wait all that time to listen to NP interview and they cut him off after one Ummmmmm

[ProfitInMyPocket]

4 minutes ago, frenchred said:

we can’t keep making excuses for the manager, Atkinson, james, tanner, baker, simpson, king are his signings, arguably our best players this season are massengo, kalas and bentley, blame johnson for them! pring and scott were already here.

itstime he shaped up or out

LJ or Holden never used Pring or Scott, its NP who is bringing through the youngsters and actually playing them. 

We have been awful at home since Cotterill left, this isn't a now issue thats popped up out of the blue, this has been building up for years. 

[054123]

It’s unbearable to watch at home, it really is.

I cannot believe how bad we are in possession.

These are all professional footballers at a great level and yet we cannot retain possession.

There are so many bad footballers when in possession. How have we amassed this squad?

Tanner and Atkinson look good additions but what Aston left is awful.

[Fordy62]

4 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

Fordy he might be a bell end but things are looking grim. 

Our away wins will dry up and then what? We are being outplayed home and away,it's hard to see where the next win is coming from.

I for one am worried that the early points away from home will be needed at the end of the season.

Hard to see any light at the end of the tunnel.

oh, I see it a completely different way. I think we’re better. Today was hard luck, but generally I think we’ve looked stronger than we did last season. 

I think everyone largely agreed that we’d be happy to avoid relegation this season while the reshape took place, well… we’re comfortably mid table. 

I still think the future looks good. The home win will come, mark my words. 

[Bedred31]

It’s possible to be completely pissed off and supportive of Pearson and Landsdown. I know it is because really I am. Imagine what it must be like running a business with a £65m annual wage bill and literally no paying customers for 18 months. Nige inherited a big squad of largely crocked players and an inevitable instruction to trim the outgoings by at least £20m pa. And if you want to know what it’s like being a well supported, city side with pedigree but no sugar daddy chairman, the fans of Sheffield W, Ipswich, Sunderland and others will tell you all about it. Utterly crap result, crap game, crap evening, but there’s dignity in taking it on the chin and realising that while things could be better, they could and possibly should be a whole lot worse.

[City1970]

27 minutes ago, Lordofthebling said:

I presume 1970 is the year you were born? If you supported city through the 80s like me, this is an absolute fantasy world we are living in now.

1970 is not the year I was born. Luckily I was born quite a few years earlier and had the pleasure of watching City in the top flight for 4 years. City had a team to be proud of then. Players with heart and aggression, something we have not got now. This is far from a fantasy world we are living in now.

[054123]

5 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said:

How anyone can criticise Nahki Wells tonight just has an agenda.

Played on the shoulder, lovely timed runs in-behind, shot on sight which led to our goal, a post-hit, and a great effort from distance. Also held it and rarely gave it away.

We should invest in him. He cost us £5m and we rarely use him wisely and when we do he always looks sharp and a threat. Its the lack of players around him to get the best out of him thats the issue.

Wasted here.

We simply cannot play attacking football.

You could bring in any manager you wanted but the shit left behind by Ashton, compounded by Steve going into money saving mode, would fail in the same way.

 

[ProfitInMyPocket]

3 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

To be fair, tanner atkinson and james are his, and he sanctioned the new contracts for weimann and baker, so thats 5/11 of tonights team.

If he had the backing to sign more of what he wanted I'd doubt Weimann and Baker would be here. and 5/11 isn't 11/11 or what about a squad of players he wants. He wouldn't have let Baker go in the first place if he was given the funds. 

 

[Waconda]

22 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

Just a shit ref…..I noticed that Pearson was just waiting on the touch line at the end of the game looking ready to explode, I’m guessing for the ref to come over and then launch. Robins TV cut away unfortunately for a yoghurt advert so we never got to see… For anyone at the game, did Nige have a pop?

Nige needs spend less time having a pop and more time coaching perhaps.

[Rossi the Robin]

Change the whole pre match routine- as now it’s  the same tunes, videos, Downsy  etc, it’s de ja vue

Freshen it up, might make a difference - might sound a bit leftfield, but this little bit of change might help change the mentality slightly enough just to get the win 

[Finley_Smith10]

I just want us to win a game at home. Please. 

[054123]

8 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

oh, I see it a completely different way. I think we’re better. Today was hard luck, but generally I think we’ve looked stronger than we did last season. 

I think everyone largely agreed that we’d be happy to avoid relegation this season while the reshape took place, well… we’re comfortably mid table. 

I still think the future looks good. The home win will come, mark my words. 

I’m behind us and happy to see what the Nige era brings, but let’s all be honest about how bad we we’re tonight.

If you watched that game then you saw a team bereft of idea and a complete lack of ability when in possession.

Forest were poor. So many poor final balls.

We will get walloped at home soon.

Edited October 19, 2021 by 054123

[And Its Smith]

4 minutes ago, 054123 said:

It’s unbearable to watch at home, it really is.

I cannot believe how bad we are in possession.

These are all professional footballers at a great level and yet we cannot retain possession.

There are so many bad footballers when in possession. How have we amassed this squad?

Tanner and Atkinson look good additions but what Aston left is awful.

Agree 100%. The people who say they enjoyed the game and thought we were good must be pissed. It’s the only excuse

[Bodiesaffer]

7 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

To be fair, tanner atkinson and james are his, and he sanctioned the new contracts for weimann and baker, so thats 5/11 of tonights team.

They are all good players, Baker was my MOM until that crazy mindless tackle.

[054123]

5 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said:

Change the whole pre match routine- as now it’s  the same tunes, videos, Downsy  etc, it’s de ja vue

Freshen it up, might make a difference - might sound a bit leftfield, but this little bit of change might help change the mentality slightly enough just to get the win 

I doubt it, Ashton and Lansdown amassed a squad not capable of competing and more worryingly did so in a manner that has hamstrung us financially. 

Play whatever the **** you want we still can’t retain possession for more than 2 passes.

Edited October 19, 2021 by 054123

[Street red]

2 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said:

Change the whole pre match routine- as now it’s  the same tunes, videos, Downsy  etc, it’s de ja vue

Freshen it up, might make a difference - might sound a bit leftfield, but this little bit of change might help change the mentality slightly enough just to get the win 

Agree with this 100%

[The Gasbuster]

23 minutes ago, lenred said:

And we’re not anywhere near the bottom 3? Don’t understand the point? 

You said you don’t understand what people expect this season.

Well, we all expect to win some games at home this season. If we go on like this until May, we will probably be relegated.

My point is that if the bottom 3 can win games at home, why can’t we ?

[TomThumb84]

Just now, Rossi the Robin said:

Change the whole pre match routine- as now it’s  the same tunes, videos, Downsy  etc, it’s de ja vue

Freshen it up, might make a difference - might sound a bit leftfield, but this little bit of change might help change the mentality slightly enough just to get the win 

This isn’t a bad idea.

It does feel so samey down there. Need to change the atmosphere.

The thing that annoyed me the most tonight was Taylor grabbing the ball as they knew they could win it. Imagine that, not settling for a point away but knowing they had 3 minutes to win at and believing they could.

What does that say that other clubs think about us? Vulnerable? Brittle? Soft?

On a par with Rowett saying last year that we were basically 3 points in waiting.

[Red_Alligator]

Now that was tough to take. Really tough. Nothing more to add at this point. 

[MC RISK77]

All too inevitable now- we sat further and further back as the half went on, eleven men behind the ball and said to them you will have to break us down.

For all the noise about Dave Rennie helping the physical side of the player well-being, I think it’s now a big mental problem for the players especially at home, that last ten minutes where were the leaders barking orders…. Talking the younger players through the game… I only saw Tanner putting the crunching tackles in to get the crown behind them. We still look like eleven individuals out on the pitch and not a team with spirit.

we didn’t play well and a draw would have been a fair result.

[Waconda]

1 minute ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

If he had the backing to sign more of what he wanted I'd doubt Weimann and Baker would be here. and 5/11 isn't 11/11 or what about a squad of players he wants. He wouldn't have let Baker go in the first place if he was given the funds. 

 

What new manager gets to change an entire squad immediately ? Many manage to produce winning teams from previous managers players without changing one. Not sure of this mantra of "he is working with other peoples crap players" holds much water at this point. Just sounds like an excuse. - IMO

 

[Sleepy1968]

7 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

LJ or Holden never used Pring or Scott, its NP who is bringing through the youngsters and actually playing them. 

We have been awful at home since Cotterill left, this isn't a now issue thats popped up out of the blue, this has been building up for years. 

I don't think you can blame LJ for not using Scott. If he was here under LJ's tenure he'd have been 16 at most.

[TV Tom]

A tale of a modern day manager against a yesterday man who thinks that playing the Warnock/ McCarthy/ Rowlett/ Pauli’s way will get you somewhere, constantly losing possession by  getting your keeper to lump it down the middle at every opportunity gets you nowhere, any successful manager nowadays knows it’s all about keeping possession 

[WessexPest]

The most galling last five minutes I can remember watching City. I had absolutely no doubt they would equalise, given our penchant for throwing away 1-0 wins this season and the fact that they forced countless corners and every time their players ran at our fullbacks we looked decidedly edgy, but to go on and lose it was a real sickener.

Yes, we should have had a pen and Wells ought to have buried his shot that he struck the post with, but their spot-kick was a stonewaller and until we scored Forest had been well on top.

You can argue we looked decent in patches second half but once again there was very little end product and in the context of our abysmal home run and the manner in which we capitulated last five minutes there are zero crumbs of comfort.

 

[Bristol Rob]

This thread needs more bar-snack chat.

That'll cheer everyone one up.

Ooooh. Cheesy Moments.

[Northern Red]

It's interesting that the good away form definitely won't last but the awful home form definitely will...

[Akira]

19 minutes ago, pillred said:

Plenty of managers have lost their job with better records than him, how you can be happy with what's going on at the moment is beyond me fair play you must be very easily pleased.

Easily pleased? Not really, I'm just not deluded, thanks. 

Sigh. Not sure why I'll bother but I'll bite... 

We shouldn't have lost tonight like we did, at all. That's all down to the players mentality. Pearson is by far the best manager we've had at the helm in a VERY long time. He's having to try and get the best out of a team that is lacking in quality and depth. We've got one or two promising youngsters, but 4 years of the previous regime isn't going to be wiped out and cleared in the blink of an eye, when he's been told he has no money to spend. 

And with covid, lots of clubs aren't spending in the Championship due to the losses incurred. 

Our home record is dire, but there isn't a second that I've doubted Pearson, I'm grateful he's here. Some fans need to get off their high horse and lower their expectations, especially given the circumstances of last season with no fans. 

The typical over reactions on here are shamefully predictable. There isn't a fan on here that is happy we've lost, we all wanted and expected to not lose come 90 mins. We haven't. You must be out of your mind to want the manager sacked on the back of that. 

I really do wish some people could see the bigger picture, the long game. 

But one thing we can agree on, the home form needs to change, and quickly. 

[ProfitInMyPocket]

1 minute ago, VT05763 said:

What new manager gets to change an entire squad immediately ? Many manage to produce winning teams from previous managers players without changing one. Not sure of this mantra of "he is working with other peoples crap players" holds much water at this point. Just sounds like an excuse. - IMO

 

You can bring in any manager with this squad, same thing will happen, been happening for years and ain't gunna change overnight. 

[Bodiesaffer]

1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said:

This isn’t a bad idea.

It does feel so samey down there. Need to change the atmosphere.

The thing that annoyed me the most tonight was Taylor grabbing the ball as they knew they could win it. Imagine that, not settling for a point away but knowing they had 3 minutes to win at and believing they could.

What does that say that other clubs think about us? Vulnerable? Brittle? Soft?

On a par with Rowett saying last year that we were basically 3 points in waiting.

Mentally week. 

[lenred]

3 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said:

You said you don’t understand what people expect this season.

Well, we all expect to win some games at home this season. If we go on like this until May, we will probably be relegated.

My point is that if the bottom 3 can win games at home, why can’t we ?

But my point was in response to someone saying we don’t have any fight or resolve.  So I didn’t get what you were referring to? 

[Mattredrobin]

Utterly deflated after that, felt we'd wethered the storm in the 1st 10 mins of the second half, but just got deeper and deeper. Really not sure what to make of us anymore crap without the fans in and crap with them in, once our away form turns we could be in big trouble. 

[BCFCGav]

I - like many of us - went to that ******* horror show tonight. I got rained on, my burger tasted like ass and a speed bump assaulted my car on the ride home. 
 

We need to forget tonight immediately and move on. Saturday we’re away to a very good team, but thank god we’re away. From the depths of tonight I can see us stealing an undeserved draw. And then we WILL beat Barnsley. The hoodoo will be over. Tonight never happened.

Ps Jack Grealish has Alex Scott bedsheets. Up the City.

[Sleepy1968]

21 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I largely agree with this with two caveats.

1) I am going to fault Baker for the penalty. Mistakes happen but, for a senior player to make that sort of challenge late on was undoubtedly a mistake.

2) We did not react at all well to the goal going in. It was probably a handball but we shouldn't have been that easy to penetrate immediately after conceding.

Nonetheless I'm gutted for the players. They worked hard and did well for 90-odd minutes only to throw it away in a minute of ridiculousness. 

Number 2 is the more worrying aspect to me. That just sums up how mentally weak we are.

[Whale Eye Beef Hooked]

I thought we played well tonight. We won nearly every long ball header and managed to pick up the second balls well. We Finally played a formation that suits.  I would have made the same subs,  odowda to stretch the defence with his fresh legs was the right thing to do.   Massengo should have called for the pass but baker panicked and lumped it out and the rest is history.  Baker had to attempt a challenge but it was a tired poor one   We are just mentally weak 

 

[The Gasbuster]

2 minutes ago, lenred said:

But my point was in response to someone saying we don’t have any fight or resolve.  So I didn’t get what you were referring to? 

That’s fair enough, Mate.

I am on the phone so unable to highlight the part of your post I was replying to

Edited October 19, 2021 by The Gasbuster

[Waconda]

Just now, ProfitInMyPocket said:

You can bring in any manager with this squad, same thing will happen, been happening for years and ain't gunna change overnight. 

Totally disagree. Very decent squad for this division, quality players in nearly every position and the manager was allowed to dispense with the ones he didn't want.

There is a lot wrong currently and this is only going to go one way - IMO

[watkins1983]

The writing was on the wall as soon as we came out after half time. Sitting so deep and letting forest pass at will. Luckily the forest attack was so shit it took for a calamitous challenge from baker to gift them the goal from the penalty . What followed was one of the most spineless moments I have ever seen following city. 
 

Why on earth would you bring on O’Dowda for wells? The bloke just doesn’t want to know defensively, he played the last few minutes uninteresting in pressing/challenging forest for the ball.

Let’s hope we can work some magic on the road again, hope the manner of that defeat doesn’t knock the stuffing out the team. 

 

 

 

 

 

[redsquirrel]

bents said ashton gate should be like a fortress.  more like Takeshi's Castle at the moment

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Akira said:

Easily pleased? Not really, I'm just not deluded, thanks. 

Sigh. Not sure why I'll bother but I'll bite... 

We shouldn't have lost tonight like we did, at all. That's all down to the players mentality. Pearson is by far the best manager we've had at the helm in a VERY long time. He's having to try and get the best out of a team that is lacking in quality and depth. We've got one or two promising youngsters, but 4 years of the previous regime isn't going to be wiped out and cleared in the blink of an eye, when he's been told he has no money to spend. 

And with covid, lots of clubs aren't spending in the Championship due to the losses incurred. 

Our home record is dire, but there isn't a second that I've doubted Pearson, I'm grateful he's here. Some fans need to get off their high horse and lower their expectations, especially given the circumstances of last season with no fans. 

The typical over reactions on here are shamefully predictable. There isn't a fan on here that is happy we've lost, we all wanted and expected to not lose come 90 mins. We haven't. You must be out of your mind to want the manager sacked on the back of that. 

I really do wish some people could see the bigger picture, the long game. 

But one thing we can agree on, the home form needs to change, and quickly. 

I said the other day we have to get some home wins by under our belt by February/March otherwise you are looking at sub 10k season ticket sales next season. Far too many people not enjoying it right now.

The bigger picture is simply stay in the division and I think Nige will achieve that one but we do need to give home supporters something to get behind otherwise it’ll go tits up. Tonight was criminal tbh.

[lenred]

Just now, The Gasbuster said:

That’s fair enough, Mate.

I am in the phone so unable to highlight the part of your post I was replying to

We are all narced about the home record but it will come. We have fighting spirit otherwise we wouldn’t have won at Peterborough, Cardiff and QPR. We are just a bit ****** players wise at the moment.  This season was always going to suck a bit as a result. But we have people in charge who know what they are doing and I have confidence that given time they will build a decent team. Meanwhile as long as we remain away from the relegation zone this season I don’t care whether the points come at home or away. But a home win would be very nice and I reckon itll come v Barnsley.  

[wendyredredrobin]

Lee Johnson couldn't manage this team, Dean Holden couldn't either. Now Nigel Pearson really looks like he hasn't got a clue.  It seems to me that the issues run much deeper. I could understand being beaten by Bournemouth, though we could have at least put up a fight, but turning our first home win in months into a defeat to a team as poor as Forest with 2 minutes to go is unbelievable.

It's not difficult to look at this team to see where the weaknesses lie and something big really needs to happen in the January window, though I'm not holding my breath.

 

[AppyDAZE]

Yes, we surrendered etc etc. But the referee tonight. What a clown. Clear pen denied us, yes clear and a handball for their winner. Clear again.

Not making excuses, just stating the fact that the ref has had a Weston Super.

All plain to see on Skysports highlights too.

Edited October 19, 2021 by AppyDAZE

[Numero Uno]

3 minutes ago, VT05763 said:

Totally disagree. Very decent squad for this division, quality players in nearly every position and the manager was allowed to dispense with the ones he didn't want.

There is a lot wrong currently and this is only going to go one way - IMO

Very decent squad

[Rossi the Robin]

2 minutes ago, lenred said:

We are all narced about the home record but it will come. We have fighting spirit otherwise we wouldn’t have won at Peterborough, Cardiff and QPR. We are just a bit ****** players wise at the moment.  This season was always going to suck a bit as a result. But we have people in charge who know what they are doing and I have confidence that given time they will build a decent team. Meanwhile as long as we remain away from the relegation zone this season I don’t care whether the points come at home or away. But a home win would be very nice and I reckon itll come v Barnsley.  

Once we get over the line, it will change. Keep the faith 

[ProfitInMyPocket]

1 minute ago, VT05763 said:

Totally disagree. Very decent squad for this division, quality players in nearly every position and the manager was allowed to dispense with the ones he didn't want.

There is a lot wrong currently and this is only going to go one way - IMO

We've had a lot of the same players for a while now. And look where we are going like you've mentioned, on our way down.

I look at every other team we play in the league and I would much rather have a lot of their players then the majority of our starters, especially in forward areas. I'd much rather have Wilbraham up top then the strikers we have now, and that says a lot.