Popular Post Major Isewater Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 Nahki Wells played very well last night I thought . The guy gets criticised a lot but he deserves some recognition and support. Let’s show him the love folks. 18 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 He got a pretty consistent wave of applause as he walked the edge of the pitch on being subbed. He had a decent game. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Think quite a few players played well, Wells included. Actually think the performance was no where near as bad as some are saying. As of 89 minutes, we deserved to be winning IMHO. Shame about the final 5 mins! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Would’ve kept him on. Appreciate the stretching of the game / better pressing (allegedly) shouts but the guys can finish. Has a history of it. Should’ve left him on. Unless he had a niggle of course. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 He was miles better than Martin and Weimann only denied by a wonder save in the 2nd half. Give him a run of games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: Would’ve kept him on. Appreciate the stretching of the game / better pressing (allegedly) shouts but the guys can finish. Has a history of it. Should’ve left him on. Unless he had a niggle of course. He was clearly completely knackered and had to come off, shame he couldn't finish the game with his one on one chance. Played well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I've got a memory like a sieve, but that's the first time i recall someone running the channels with any semblance of effectiveness in a very very very very very very..... oh wait, a very long time? A long time? Just time! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: Think quite a few players played well, Wells included. Actually think the performance was no where near as bad as some are saying. As of 89 minutes, we deserved to be winning IMHO. Shame about the final 5 mins! Of the outfield starters I’d say only Weimann and Martin were below par / poor. I really couldn’t criticise any of the other 8 and Tanner and Baker (bar the lunge) we’re very good all night, others with decent contributions too…Wells was a threat most of the night. Unfortunately for our squad 2 players below par is quite hard to cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Good to see him playing more centrally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, RedorDead BCFC said: Good to see him playing more centrally. Agree Centre forward. The clue is in the name Nige. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Thought it was one of his best games for us & whether he was tiring or not, personally I’d have kept him on, especially as we had already taken Martin off. Deserves a run up front, whether Martin or Weimann partners him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 The key last night was his movement which was a major part in the first goal and also the chance that produced a top save from Samba (people will say he should bury it but remember the opposition keeper isn't going to just stand there and let it sail past him because Bristol City are the opposition). Movement is something we are really piss poor at and so if Wells can carry on in that vein we will benefit. How both the ref and linesman missed that save was pure comedy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, One man went.... said: He is a top quality striker who just needs to find his form. He has scored at every club he has ever played for. Similar strike rate to Fam, who I don't remember ever being called 'top quality striker'! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Similar strike rate to Fam, who I don't remember ever being called 'top quality striker'! Both are decent Championship strikers of very different types. Fam’s movement and lack of proactivity pissed me off. Wells’s poor touch at times annoyed me. But he’s always on the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Play him centrally and give him a run of games IMO. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Has to due a game centrally. It means we would have to stop lumping the ball, but I can live with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Super said: He was miles better than Martin and Weimann only denied by a wonder save in the 2nd half. Give him a run of games. After Martin’s performance last night, hope/expect Nahki to be given a run of games… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, One man went.... said: How many times has he played centrally? And who is supplying the ammo? I’d play HMN at number 10. Sounds daft I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bodiesaffer said: I’d play HMN at number 10. Sounds daft I know. I think we need him with James, certainly whilst Williams is out. I think Scott has the football intelligence to partner Wells as his no10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I think we need him with James, certainly whilst Williams is out. I think Scott has the football intelligence to partner Wells as his no10. We all need two Hans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think we need him with James, certainly whilst Williams is out. I think Scott has the football intelligence to partner Wells as his no10. Not sure I fully grasped our set up last night, but I liked what I thought it was… 3 1 2 (wide) 2 centralish) 2. Thought it gave us decent width and both wing backs did pretty well and allowed us to get forward whilst feeling reasonably secure at the back (for 90 mins at least). If the formation above is vaguely accurate I’d replace Weimann with Massengo at home, as he (AW) is pretty much a metaphor (maybe the sole cause?!?) for our overall capabilities, very poor at home, very good away. A slightly more defensive formation probably needed when we’re playing away. Whatever formation we play we need to get better at avoiding overloads in our final third. Mathematically we should have a numbers advantage, unless playing a very gung ho team, so need to be better at getting spare men attacking the ball, eg Tanner + AN other giving the left sided wide player more to think about. GT did well last night, but too often it was damage limitation, as exposed one on one. Think we tend to overload empty space, possibly intentionally as some sort of zonal system, but think we’d do better to pressure the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedNachos Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Gives us about 4x the amount of Martin in terms of movement and twice as clinical, if he could start next to someone who could hold the ball up properly we'd be laughing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Keep him in there, deserves another start. Weimann is the one I’m curious about, he’s been pretty poor of late. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: Not sure I fully grasped our set up last night, but I liked what I thought it was… 3 1 2 (wide) 2 centralish) 2. Thought it gave us decent width and both wing backs did pretty well and allowed us to get forward whilst feeling reasonably secure at the back (for 90 mins at least). If the formation above is vaguely accurate I’d replace Weimann with Massengo at home, as he (AW) is pretty much a metaphor (maybe the sole cause?!?) for our overall capabilities, very poor at home, very good away. A slightly more defensive formation probably needed when we’re playing away. Whatever formation we play we need to get better at avoiding overloads in our final third. Mathematically we should have a numbers advantage, unless playing a very gung ho team, so need to be better at getting spare men attacking the ball, eg Tanner + AN other giving the left sided wide player more to think about. GT did well last night, but too often it was damage limitation, as exposed one on one. Think we tend to overload empty space, possibly intentionally as some sort of zonal system, but think we’d do better to pressure the ball. I would’ve liked to see Atkinson at LCB and Baker central last night. I thought Baker handled Brennan Johnson really well, and was physical with him without being reckless. But we lose the option to carry the ball forward and create the extra man. Kalas on the other side ventures forward a bit. In fact we did create some decent passing moves on the right first half. Johnson caused us problems because he was happy to drag Baker (sometimes Atkinson) short then long. Ideally if he’d have played more in the hole, we could’ve gone to back 4. We did get balls from the CBs into James centrally quite a bit first half which was encouraging but the early salvo second half by Forest pegged us back and we chased the ball too much. The patterns that were forming in the opening 4-6 games have gone in the main, but we at least saw what a bit of pace (not blistering pace) and movement from Wells gave us last night. He needs an extended run in the starting line-up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 His David Beckham vs Wimbledon shot if that would have gone in be goal of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, lukebcfc1989 said: Good player, proven at this level before coming here had bagged 12-15 goals for QPR Another decent striker City have signed at this level starved of chances dealing with negative and small club tactics. And the season prior to that he got 7 in 40 for QPR. His overall record suggests that at Champ level he should be getting roughly 1 in every 3.5 games. But his purple patch at QPR in the first half of 2019/20 makes people think he's a guaranteed 20 goal man. Historically he's far from that. Since signing for us he's scored 16 goals in 71 league games - a 1 in 4.5 game record. It's not great, and is worse than his overall career record at our level, but to me it doesn't suggest criminal mismanagement or underperformance. He would only need to have scored 5 more goals to be trotting along at his par standard of 1 in 3.5. Would him having scored 5 extra goals mean we were discussing him in different terms? I doubt it. Good game for him on Tuesday though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: And the season prior to that he got 7 in 40 for QPR. His overall record suggests that at Champ level he should be getting roughly 1 in every 3.5 games. But his purple patch at QPR in the first half of 2019/20 makes people think he's a guaranteed 20 goal man. Historically he's far from that. Since signing for us he's scored 16 goals in 71 league games - a 1 in 4.5 game record. It's not great, and is worse than his overall career record at our level, but to me it doesn't suggest criminal mismanagement or underperformance. He would only need to have scored 5 more goals to be trotting along at his par standard of 1 in 3.5. Would him having scored 5 extra goals mean we were discussing him in different terms? I doubt it. Good game for him on Tuesday though. 4995 mins, 55.5 90min equivalent, so he’s at his career record of circa a goal every 3 games. Although, don’t forget about 15 of those games were as a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: 4995 mins, 55.5 90min equivalent, so he’s at his career record of circa a goal every 3 games. Although, don’t forget about 15 of those games were as a winger. Bloke I responded to said "proven at this level", and so I was talking Champ only i.e. "our level". Across his whole career at Champ level he's at 81 in 281 = 1 in every 3.46 games. Of those, 16 goals and 71 games are for us in the Championship = 1 in every 4.44 games. He's well off pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 20/10/2021 at 16:24, Major Isewater said: Nahki Wells played very well last night I thought . The guy gets criticised a lot but he deserves some recognition and support. Let’s show him the love folks. Do you think he wants a picture of my love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, 054123 said: Do you think he wants a picture of my love? Does she still do that little thing when she wakes up ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Bloke I responded to said "proven at this level", and so I was talking Champ only i.e. "our level". Across his whole career at Champ level he's at 81 in 281 = 1 in every 3.46 games. Of those, 16 goals and 71 games are for us in the Championship = 1 in every 4.44 games. He's well off pace. You’ve got to take minutes played into account, surely. Career 81 in 281 or 81 In 19689 mins (219 full matches). A goal every 2.70 games City 16 in 71 or 16 in 4631 mins (52 full matches) A goal every 3.21 games QPR 20 in 66 or 20 in 4478 mins (50 full matches) A goal every 2.50 games Non-City 65 in 210 or 15058 mins (167 full matches) A goal every 2.57 games So, he’s down a bit on his career and non-City average. However, 1239 minutes last season was on the wing (13 games worth), which at least have a bearing on his record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: Does she still do that little thing when she wakes up ? She? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, 054123 said: She? Your ‘ love ‘ is a man? Well, why not ? We are all modern on this forum. Live and live that’s my motto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: You’ve got to take minutes played into account, surely. Career 81 in 281 or 81 In 19689 mins (219 full matches). A goal every 2.70 games City 16 in 71 or 16 in 4631 mins (52 full matches) A goal every 3.21 games QPR 20 in 66 or 20 in 4478 mins (50 full matches) A goal every 2.50 games Non-City 65 in 210 or 15058 mins (167 full matches) A goal every 2.57 games So, he’s down a bit on his career and non-City average. However, 1239 minutes last season was on the wing (13 games worth), which at least have a bearing on his record. Yeh, I'll go with that. To be clear, I don't think he's a terrible striker, and he is fitting into the system better this season than last, but he's not the 20 goal a season guy some seem to think he is. He'll get about as many goals as Fam did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: Yeh, I'll go with that. To be clear, I don't think he's a terrible striker, and he is fitting into the system better this season than last, but he's not the 20 goal a season guy some seem to think he is. He'll get about as many goals as Fam did. Can’t be arsed to do the match, but from memory their scoring rates were pretty similar, Fam might’ve been 0.1 better or something like that. Wells assist rate better. But ultimately different types of striker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 20/10/2021 at 21:17, Davefevs said: I think we need him with James, certainly whilst Williams is out. I think Scott has the football intelligence to partner Wells as his no10. Yes like the sound of that Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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