GrahamC Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. I didn’t see any of it. In fact I’m half cut having watched the first half of the cricket, but if what you say is correct, it wouldn’t make him drastically different to the vast majority of the team now would it? Hes a youngster. I’m inclined to cut him some slack. Edited October 30, 2021 by Fordy62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Wasn’t the change I’d have made. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Wasn’t the change I’d have made. Me either, it seemed very risky at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Nige said before the game he is close to the starting 11 and if it weren’t for the 17 game winless run going into today then there would have been every chance on him starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Wasn’t the change I’d have made. If your plan is to sit on a 1 goal lead for the entire second half it's a pointless change in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. He looked a bit caught between to me. Wasn’t sure which man to mark, what positions to take up. No different to Bakinson before him, I put that down to formation & possibly having someone so young & inexperienced behind him. But worked hard & will gain from it. COYR 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. Was quite surprised to see him come on. I think O’Dowda needs to leave the club, but he seemed the most natural sub 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Looked a yard off it today. Makes you appreciate HNM and his contribution since he was 17/18 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Didn’t he run into a team mate of his, on a couple of occasions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Wasn’t the change I’d have made. I couldn’t believe it. And then after he played for a bit, I couldn’t believe it even more. Nothing against him at all but the substitution was extraordinary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I thought Alex Scott should have come on. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Simon bristol Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 Would rather see benarous or scott than palmer or odowda 31 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. So you'll post a dedicated thread picking out his weakness. As has previously been said the kid should be cut some slack. Just staggered that there seems to be an obsession with having something to moan about. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down. 24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 The truth is we got to give these players a go as we don’t really have a lot else to turn to. Yeah he look a yard off, but it’s about development. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Mind you, it did help that Wells (as he was about to shoot) and Martin (as he was about to break) both tackles him. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, Davefevs said: I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down. I watched him and Bakinson today, Christ did he take a beating. The stuff you can get away with throw-ins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Henry said: Was quite surprised to see him come on. I think O’Dowda needs to leave the club, but he seemed the most natural sub Or Scott, who has shown before he’s good enough. On what I saw I’d rather that Simpson came on & Tanner played in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prime Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. You don't want to knock the kid, but you did anyway. Incredibly harsh. He hardly received the ball and the times he did he was tackled by his teammates (Martin in a counter attacking situation and Wells in the box). I wouldn't say he played any better or worse than anyone else. The one time he was in a position to take someone on, he was outmuscled, but arguably it was a foul. I also thought he was committed and helped out in defence. I really thought this would be a thread about how great it is to see another academy product make his debut. I really hope he doesn't read your post. 22 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, 054123 said: I watched him and Bakinson today, Christ did he take a beating. The stuff you can get away with throw-ins! Yep, they should’ve earned 10-12 fouls today….and sometimes as manager you have to think - Martin is getting bugger all, I need to change him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Didn’t he run into a team mate of his, on a couple of occasions ? He certainly did, not sure if he just ran into team mates but appeared to actually tackle them too! His time will come, but today was a difficult debut 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post And Its Smith Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. No need for this thread picking out a 17 year old who two months ago was nowhere near this squad and clearly nervous. Expect he will be delighted to see a thread dedicated to how he was off the standard. 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Maybe just for a change, just wanted someone with energy on the pitch who hasn't been mantally scarred. Someone for the fans to get behind,someone for the senior players to rally around. A distraction from the nervous energy. Concede and its insanity Win and it worked; was it down to the sub? Prob not, but it's not like the standard option has worked for the last 18 thousand years 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthS22 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down. I’m.not sure he should have started but definitely should have come off. We were crying out for someone to put their foot on the ball and keep possession and Martin today was all flicks and attempted layoffs which rarely came off. Would have loved to see Scott on for the last half hour to bring us a bit more composure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: No need for this thread picking out a 17 year old who two months ago was nowhere near this squad and clearly nervous. Expect he will be delighted to see a thread dedicated to how he was off the standard. In fairness if the OP hadn’t have started the thread someone else would have done, if anything blame the manager for throwing him into the situation when he wasn’t ready Edited October 30, 2021 by pl00peh91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 In fairness to the lad to be brought on at that time in the game with the amount of pressure on the result it was always going to be tough for him. The fair and reasonable thing to do would be to reserve judgment untill he is given a proper opportunity because by all accounts he is ridiculously talented on the ball and always looks to play the forward pass to make things happen, he could be just what we need as the season progresses. I echo others though it was strange timing by Pearson to bring him on today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 As others have said it was a strange sub to make and he definitely looked a yard off the pace. He did get on the ball a couple of times and looked technically good but he also looked lightweight and too easy to get past. I’m sure he’ll be a great player in time but today wasn’t the day for him and it could have cost us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, RedM said: He certainly did, not sure if he just ran into team mates but appeared to actually tackle them too! His time will come, but today was a difficult debut Thought as much them running into him, think it was him and Martin that lost the ball in the lead up to the Cole clearance off our line, but for me that was Martin more at fault than Benarous. Didn’t think he had quite as poor a debut as most are indicating, didn’t help him that our defence constantly dragged too far left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, The turtle said: Maybe just for a change, just wanted someone with energy on the pitch who hasn't been mantally scarred. Nige just made that comment on BBCRB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 How many of the members of this forum can remember the debut of a seventeen year old, still skinny and very raw in football terms? I can't remember his name but he did have one or two tidy games for two City's. Well you could be seeing the beginnings of another one! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 He looked miles off it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 Look, he could well be the next big thing by 2024 but with O’Dowda, Scott or even Simpson sat watching it was incredible he came on & despite some saying he wasn’t any worse than others that is simply ridiculous, he looked a mile away on that evidence. If you look at my post history I tend to be pretty supportive & have seen the likes of Scott, Conway & Sam Pearson come in as youngsters & do ok. Not to highlight that he struggled hugely would be dishonest. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Nige just made that comment on BBCRB Ha, I promise I hadn't heard it. Will feel smug when listen to the post 5pm part later tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I am not a COD fan but while Barnsley were pushed up to the halfway line we needed someone to run through with the ball. He seemed the obvious choice to me this time, just to stop them camping in our half. Even their keeper was almost in our half, it was nuts that they felt able to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Was such a weird sub. I am usually for young players given a go, and he will be some player one day I'm sure. But why not Scott who is stronger, got experience, defended well in Cardiff and Peterborough games when coming on to play left midfield. What has Scott done wrong, he had a decent game against Forest. And I know people don't rate him but O'Dowda did well defending corners last season. Bringing on Benarous another tiny player and having brought on Dasilva too and bringing off Pring (injured) and Bakinson who are both competent in the air. No wonder we looked so vulnerable from set pieces with the players we had on the pitch. But more importantly O'Dowda would be better at getting us up the pitch, which we could not seem to do for much of the 2nd half. Pearson subs often make little sense to me. Palmer on against Forest when winning another. What like he did when he came on against Forest? O’Dowda for me is not the player you write about. One game maybe a season he’s good then it’s back to normal. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, The turtle said: Maybe just for a change, just wanted someone with energy on the pitch who hasn't been mentally scarred. Someone for the fans to get behind,someone for the senior players to rally around. A distraction from the nervous energy. Concede and its insanity Win and it worked; was it down to the sub? Prob not, but it's not like the standard option has worked for the last 18 thousand years A wise observation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Look, he could well be the next big thing by 2024 but with O’Dowda, Scott or even Simpson sat watching it was incredible he came on & despite some saying he wasn’t any worse than others that is simply ridiculous, he looked a mile away on that evidence. If you look at my post history I tend to be pretty supportive & have seen the likes of Scott, Conway & Sam Pearson come in as youngsters & do ok. Not to highlight that he struggled hugely would be dishonest. Pearson plays these players on merit. Fans are entitled to assess their performance on the same basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Speaks more volume about what he thinks about Bakinson’s performance and what he thinks about CO’D. Hell of a risk, and didn’t really pay off. Win is all that counts I suppose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: How many of the members of this forum can remember the debut of a seventeen year old, still skinny and very raw in football terms? I can't remember his name but he did have one or two tidy games for two City's. Well you could be seeing the beginnings of another one! Tom Ritchie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: I am not a COD fan but while Barnsley were pushed up to the halfway line we needed someone to run through with the ball. He seemed the obvious choice to me this time, just to stop them camping in our half. Even their keeper was almost in our half, it was nuts that they felt able to do that. O’Dowda’s had chances to help us close out games and failed pretty miserably. No probs with NP trying something different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Several of our senior pros have shown themselves to be chancers stealing a wage for many games this year so I’m not going to give a lad on his debut too hard a time tbh. I’m 100% for giving kids a chance just now as I simply don’t want to see plenty of the well paid professionals who are performing like donkeys anywhere near the pitch. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 A very bold decision to bring him on…..would have gone for COD or Scott but now we’ve won, will have been a good experience for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Benarous has got a lot of talent and I didn’t see the harm in giving him a run-out from the bench today as it showed how far away he is from the first XI. Alternatively, he might be ready but was just overwhelmed by it all today. Either way, that’s another academy graduate making their first XI debut (that’s a positive) and I think he’s got a good chance of making it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 The irony is that if he'd stayed on the bench and we'd not won, someone was bound to have started a thread asking why he wasn't brought on. 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, tin said: Benarous has got a lot of talent and I didn’t see the harm in giving him a run-out from the bench today as it showed how far away he is from the first XI. Alternatively, he might be ready but was just overwhelmed by it all today. Either way, that’s another academy graduate making their first XI debut (that’s a positive) and I think he’s got a good chance of making it. His comments to Nige was how quick it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 At least he was able to take the ball into the corner near the end, something some of his more experienced colleagues could have done against Forest but chose not to. If your looking for someone who gave the ball away cheaply what about Martin, twice in his own box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Would rather see benarous or scott than palmer or odowda Honestly now - still think that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: Tom Ritchie? No, Sir Gerry. In his first full season, plenty of City fans voiced very negative opinions about him. Tons of humble pie eaten I'm not saying Benarous will be as good. But experienced managers like Pearson do not throw 17 year old kids to the wolves. They know it will be tough but have confidence that the young one will not let anyone down easily. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, Henry said: Pearson plays these players on merit. Fans are entitled to assess their performance on the same basis. Or he is trying to make a point (rather like Cottrill did, but slightly differently) about only having these available because he doesn't trust the more senior pro's? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 48 minutes ago, Prime said: You don't want to knock the kid, but you did anyway. Incredibly harsh. He hardly received the ball and the times he did he was tackled by his teammates (Martin in a counter attacking situation and Wells in the box). I wouldn't say he played any better or worse than anyone else. The one time he was in a position to take someone on, he was outmuscled, but arguably it was a foul. I also thought he was committed and helped out in defence. I really thought this would be a thread about how great it is to see another academy product make his debut. I really hope he doesn't read your post. I agree with you, glimpses of talent there and certainly has some pace, hope he gets more minutes very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I thought he did ok for a debut in difficult circumstances, put himself about and did one pass into the box that nearly came off, think people on here being a bit harsh. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down. Lucky he was still on to clear off the line. I thought he had his best game for weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I agree he struggled today. A surprising substitution and a massive gamble to bring him in in such a high pressure game. I would have thought that if NP doesn’t trust the likes of players like COD, then Scott would have been a more obvious choice seeing as he has impressed so far and we badly needed someone to hold onto the ball. Postives - it was good to see Benarous run at them with the ball (we don’t do that enough) and he took it into the corner to buy time when some of our other players seemed intent on giving them the ball. FWIW I think we missed Bakinson when he went off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: Honestly now - still think that? Yes, palmer and cod coming on when we are trying to hold on to a lead is like playing with one less player. the only shame is that benarous and scott are similar style of very young player, potentially competing for 1 spot. If one of them was a centre back, or left back, they might get more of a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caseleyhas2chins Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, The Gasbuster said: Didn’t he run into a team mate of his, on a couple of occasions ? No Martin ran in to him when he would be in a good position to pass or shot 30 yards from goal when counter attacking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Bizarre substitution and you give him a debut when coasting a game not when under the cosh. He’s a play maker/dribbler but we never had any of the ball and all we can judge him on is his defensive ability which admittedly wasn’t great. He’s a massive talent & don’t let’s judge him on today as Pearson got his debut completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 O Dowda isn't a championship standard footballer, not surprised Pearson has overlooked him here. The kid was a fish out of water though, no where near ready imo. But that says a lot about our bench and squad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Without knowing too much about him admittedly, is wide right his natural position? If not seems strange playing out out of position, in front of an also relatively experienced Tanner. I don’t think today was the right game for him to come in to. However to throw a big positive out there I was delighted to see him do what several senior pros have failed to do this season from a winning position and manage the game. Booted the ball away a couple of times, and twice looked to run the ball into the corner (I maintain we would have won a couple of games already if we were better at this). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 other teams know scott,o dowda etc and how to mark them,bring on benarous and they have to be careful until they suss him out. good to see him come on,now knows he wont rot in the u23s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, Offside said: I agree he struggled today. A surprising substitution and a massive gamble to bring him in in such a high pressure game. I would have thought that if NP doesn’t trust the likes of players like COD, then Scott would have been a more obvious choice seeing as he has impressed so far and we badly needed someone to hold onto the ball. Postives - it was good to see Benarous run at them with the ball (we don’t do that enough) and he took it into the corner to buy time when some of our other players seemed intent on giving them the ball. FWIW I think we missed Bakinson when he went off. I thought Bakinson did ok today….he was manhandled a lot and will need to stop getting muscled off it in tight spots. But he did okay. 17 minutes ago, Dredd said: Without knowing too much about him admittedly, is wide right his natural position? If not seems strange playing out out of position, in front of an also relatively experienced Tanner. I don’t think today was the right game for him to come in to. However to throw a big positive out there I was delighted to see him do what several senior pros have failed to do this season from a winning position and manage the game. Booted the ball away a couple of times, and twice looked to run the ball into the corner (I maintain we would have won a couple of games already if we were better at this). Left footed…but often plays right wing or right of a forward three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Not an easy start for the kid but he will from the experience. It would have helped if he wasn't tackled by his own team mates. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Wasn’t there today but it sounds like it was a baptism of fire. Bottom line is he’ll either learn from it and get to the standard needed, or he won’t. But we got the win so no harm done from his learning curve. Hopefully he will now understand a bit more about the step up in quality required and use that to develop and push himself forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought Bakinson did ok today….he was manhandled a lot and will need to stop getting muscled off it in tight spots. But he did okay. Left footed…but often plays right wing or right of a forward three. I'll be honest and I'm sure many will disagree but I thought James was very poor today, Massengo did not hit his normal heights (although that can be a high bar) and Bakinson actually did alright for me when you consider he had James alongside him who had a bit of a mare imo. Great pass for Wells which really should have resulted in a third goal whether that be from Wells himself or a tap in from a squared ball. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Not an easy start for the kid but he will from the experience. It would have helped if he wasn't tackled by his own team mates. You can see there is something to work with but the lad will need to be managed very carefully. He's not the biggest and in this league there will be occasions where he gets chewed up and spat out. That's already happened with Scott on at least one occasion this season when he got hooked after half an hour.........and Scott has got plenty of ability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 At the time he was brought on City was being overrun in midfield and Barnsley was creating a lot of chances that were somehow missed. Benarous is a skilful player but, at this stage of career, he’s not a player who can strengthen the midfield in this sort of match. So, to me, a strange substitution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. Have to agree. I’ve never watched him before but isn’t he a attacking midfielder ? He seemed very left footed but ended up playing right wing /wing back . Very risky sub imo. Bakinson wasn’t having the best of games although better than he has been. still a strange one . I like a midfield 3 but we were wide open far too much . Very happy with the win & will celebrate it but we got mountains to climb Edited October 30, 2021 by steviestevieneville 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) Looks to me that he knows he can’t bring anybody in January window and has to start blooding youngsters now and get them used to it come the back end of the season when we will need results Edited October 30, 2021 by joe jordans teeth 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 From where I sat Barnsley were, if not running riot, certainly having the better of things down both our left and right, and for large chunks of the game. Playing 3 in midfield plus Weimann made us really unbalanced, and (this might be unpopular) Bakinson and HNM seemed to be leaving large gaps behind them. So whether young Ayman or anybody else came on the structure was wrong. Big call by Pearson, mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 For someone miles off of it he did quite a lot. He wasn't great but frankly he wasn't helped by his team mates. I will remind the original poster of this in the years to come. I think he's got a future 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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