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5 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said:

No wonder we concede so many late goals

We're blowing out our arse half way through the second half.

Get those fitness levels up or play smarter.

Aren’t we went to be the fittest we’ve been since Rennie joined ?

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1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

**** me are you that daft. What has he got to pick from? Look at vyner tonight . League one at best. Bakinson has had a ok game for him but he’s not good enough. O’dowda , league one player. Pearson said in the summer , we had to reduce the wage bill , hence  12 players being released. Wake up & smell the coffee , this is at lansdowns door . 

Pearson isn't blameless.

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5 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

Agree! It's not the managers, it's these overpaid, useless, players.

Agreed, too many light weighted players that can’t put a shift in. NP is the man for me.  We still got a lot of players to move on.  I agree with NP assessment it’s a 3 year build.

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1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said:

Not sure Holden had to deal with all that to be honest.

If you haven’t got the nous or ability to see beyond the pure results then not surprised you can’t be bothered.

All a bit basic to be honest.

Oh I see... You think we're playing well...?! 

 

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5 minutes ago, lukebcfc1989 said:

The strikers are not the issue you are clueless sir 

The are definitely part of the problem. All of them routinely losing possession. Wells hit a row z when clean through last week. Weimann in this game. Martin anonymous in most of the past 8 games...

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Just now, samo II said:

One game in how many?

We look absolutely rudderless more games than not; he’s meant to be a leader and a captain - has he done anything to justify that?

I don’t get how the hugest paid, most senior players are getting defended here when they are offering us nothing in terms of performance or leadership - has Kalas driven us on to greater things since he arrived? No. He part of the problem here.

If we're looking at players/positions to replace on the field currently, or in the squad, Kalas would be near the bottom of my list personally.

He was our captain - clearly didn't want it and is no longer.

By your logic everyone is part of the problem, which I don't agree with!

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3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

**** me are you that daft. What has he got to pick from? Look at vyner tonight . League one at best. Bakinson has had a ok game for him but he’s not good enough. O’dowda , league one player. Pearson said in the summer , we had to reduce the wage bill , hence  12 players being released. Wake up & smell the coffee , this is at lansdowns door . 

Nobody expects us to get promoted.

Wed just like a game plan and shape, for starters...! 

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2 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

Bakinson plays like a seasoned pro living off past successes and no longer any good. Looks so lazy and disinterested. 

It’s bizarre- he had a very decent first half, he made an early error in the second half, and since then looks worse than a pub player. He does not have the heart or desire to make anything of his career 

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2 minutes ago, Bodiesaffer said:

Agreed, too many light weighted players that can’t put a shift in. NP is the man for me.  We still got a lot of players to move on.  I agree with NP assessment it’s a 3 year build.

We ‘moved on’ Jamie Patterson and now he can’t stop scoring

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2 minutes ago, Bodiesaffer said:

Agreed, too many light weighted players that can’t put a shift in. NP is the man for me.  We still got a lot of players to move on.  I agree with NP assessment it’s a 3 year build.

Pinch of salt. 

He'd have said 3 years whatever squad he picked up. 

No point in over-promising and under-delivering. 

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1 minute ago, Banjo Island said:

We are looking like a bottom three team gutless soft and just going through the motions i dread to think of the implcations of a return to div one i honestley cant beleive what iam watching

it's depressing that we're only like a 1/3 of the way through the season.... We'll be lucky to survive. I think Derby's points deduction might save us, but we are really really poor

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6 minutes ago, lukebcfc1989 said:

The strikers are not the issue you are clueless sir 

So when we have 62% possession but offer zero threat because Wells & Martin offer nothing and even Weimann very little today, it's not down to them?  So who do you think it to blame for us offering bugger all threat all game with no attempts on target?

 

 

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Tonight just goes to show how poor our squad is half our bench wouldnt get in another championship side. Our defence, midfield and attack are all poor and need strenghtening in the Jan window or we are in trouble of going down  The commentator highlighted we have no width in the team why cant NP see this God we are missing Baker Williams and Semenyo...

Rant Over

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1 minute ago, Bodiesaffer said:

Agreed, too many light weighted players that can’t put a shift in. NP is the man for me.  We still got a lot of players to move on.  I agree with NP assessment it’s a 3 year build.

Said it for the last few years, we need a nasty bastard in midfield. Perhaps Williams could be it, but definitely need someone who can put it about a bit. Something we’ve not had a for a while

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Some slight worries about Pearson creeping in now if I'm honest. I still back him though; on the basis that if we got rid of him who the hell would want to join this shambles? 

We are a massive rebuild project and I think Pearson is probably the best manager a club of our calibre, in our current state, could get.

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1 minute ago, mozo said:

The are definitely part of the problem. All of them routinely losing possession. Wells hit a row z when clean through last week. Weimann in this game. Martin anonymous in most of the past 8 games...

I’ve a problem with Martin, but they don’t play to player strengths. 

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2 minutes ago, mozo said:

The are definitely part of the problem. All of them routinely losing possession. Wells hit a row z when clean through last week. Weimann in this game. Martin anonymous in most of the past 8 games...

Weimann chasing shadows Wells running around like a headless chicken and Martin gone missing. Terrible.

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1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

I think the latest home run will be the final straw for many. There are large numbers of ST holders not even turning up.

I've not been once this season with my ST. Other reasons conspire, but nothing on the pitch is trying to change my mind. 

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Just now, steviestevieneville said:

He’s inherited a carbon copy of what O’driscoll took on in 2013. A terrible unbalanced squad that was put together by mark ashton. He’s had to trim the squad & the wage bill. The clubs a ******* mess. 

Performances should be better than this

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1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

You’re a clown mate. It’s his fault we’ve been signing shit players for three years is it ? 

No it's not but nige has been there and done it so not being able to just set up a difficult team to  beat tonight is his job and he seems unable to get any sort of system at all and I am a pearson fan.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

**** me are you that daft. What has he got to pick from? Look at vyner tonight . League one at best. Bakinson has had a ok game for him but he’s not good enough. O’dowda , league one player. Pearson said in the summer , we had to reduce the wage bill , hence  12 players being released. Wake up & smell the coffee , this is at lansdowns door . 

He signed james king simpson atkinson tanner and re-signed baker and weimann. Thats 7. We all know the likes of cod and palmer are a waste of space, but at what point do you think pearson is responsible for the total lack of motivation in our displays? If he takes us down is he not responsible in any way?

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To lose heavily against very average opponents is another stark reminder of the challenge we face.

In a nutshell - another poor performance, one shot on target in the 92 minute, unable to string passes together or retain the ball, some players starting to look disheartened / frustrated, others looking simply not good enough.

Genuine question probably for @davefevs how much did our wage bill drop due to getting shot of so many players?

 

 

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I have backed Pearson so far, but this could be a turning point for me it's just not working. We have no creativity, no goal threat and defend like rank amateurs.

Bakinson & vyner should no where near the first team there an absolute liability, no idea what Pearson see it them....

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Sad to say but we are short of decent Championship players.  Some are at this level, but too few, some are making it to this level, some are falling off from this level, and some have never reach or will reach it.

Feel sorry for Nige.  All he can do is try and keep us up until he can sign new recruits

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

If Pearson spat on some fans I swear they’d blame Ashton.  It’s not Ashtons fault our defending is atrocious 

It’s because they overate his ability as a manager so assume it can’t possibly be his fault. He’s been a busted flush for a good number of years…

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1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

He’s inherited a carbon copy of what O’driscoll took on in 2013. A terrible unbalanced squad that was put together by mark ashton. He’s had to trim the squad & the wage bill. The clubs a ******* mess. 

I'm sick and tired of this explanation now. I honestly believe that there are coaches who could organise this squad to at least look competent. That is not much to ask. This is going nowhere.

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4 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

He’s inherited a carbon copy of what O’driscoll took on in 2013. A terrible unbalanced squad that was put together by mark ashton. He’s had to trim the squad & the wage bill. The clubs a ******* mess. 

Absolutely spot on gold plated quality post. This!

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