Nigel Pearson

[Alan Dicks]

I was over the moon when we got him

Now I’m really disillusioned 

We seem at best to be as crap as the Holden days , if not worse.

Anyone on here still have faith that he will turn this around?

Personally I don’t think he will.

 

[Sturny]

This is how I feel 

[pl00peh91]

I am now leaning towards Pearson out. Turgid terrible football 

[BCFCGav]

1 minute ago, Alan Dicks said:

I was over the moon when we got him

Now I’m really disillusioned 

We seem at best to be as crap as the Holden days , if not worse.

Anyone on here still have faith that he will turn this around?

Personally I don’t think he will.

 

Very disappointed tonight but this part just isn’t true. Just remember we went about 6 games without a shot on target under Dean.

[Engvall’s Splinter]

Doubts very much creeping in. Unsure who we could galvanise this shit squad though?

[dREDful]

There's a constant problem at the club way before and probably will be way after NP arrived and leaves.  

[Red Army 75]

Without any money to spend. He won’t turn it around. Personally don’t think anyone could. Squad isn’t good enough 

[Negan]

I’m just living in hope that it gets better when it’s 11 of his players on the pitch…. The manager of course takes blame but these useless bastards have seen off 3 managers in 18 months and the footballs not got any better. It WILL not change with ANOTHER manager. Players are more to blame. 

[Kibs]

I really thought that as a minimum, despite the shite he’s inherited, Pearson would make us organised, hard to beat and unpleasant to play against…..but it’s actually the polar opposite. 

This group of players are very average, but they are better than they are currently showing and Pearson is responsible for that. 

[And Its Smith]

Doubts have to creep in when we get worse the longer he coaches them

[054123]

I wish that when Pearson goes he’s allowed to be honest with us and just tell us how it is. Years of bullshit and spin and going backwards slowly have sucked the life out of the club.

I want him to tell us exactly what he thinks of the club and the ‘Pillars’ put in place.

Edited November 2, 2021 by 054123

[nickolas]

Just now, dREDful said:

There's a constant problem at the club way before and probably will be way after NP arrived and leaves.  

Yep. TOO NICE, TOO COMFORTABLE!! Its just the bristol city way im afraid. Starts with SL. Far too nice a guy. Despite several sackings hes too nice with it. Remember the press conference to announce sacking GJ, with GJ present! What club ever does that!

Too soft from top to bottom, regardless of manager. 

[JoeAman08]

He is a dinosaur. Those older managers living off past successes are all failing. Forest and Cardiff were smart enough to get rid. Middlesborough aren’t exactly flying either. Without looking I reckon the top 10 teams don’t have a manager older than 50. Fresh faces and fresh ideas is the way forward. 

[And Its Smith]

Just now, Kibs said:

I really thought that as a minimum, despite the shite he’s inherited, Pearson would make us organised, hard to beat and unpleasant to play against…..but it’s actually the polar opposite. 

This group of players are very average, but they are better than they are currently showing and Pearson is responsible for that. 

Nail on head

[pl00peh91]

1 minute ago, JoeAman08 said:

He is a dinosaur. Those older managers living off past successes are all failing. Forest and Cardiff were smart enough to get rid. Middlesborough aren’t exactly flying either. Without looking I reckon the top 10 teams don’t have a manager older than 50. Fresh faces and fresh ideas is the way forward. 

Too late to pry Ryan Lowe away from Plymouth?!

[Guest]

He really must go with the youth until Christmas and then recruit as well as possible.

James has been injured for some time, hence his poor performances, Wells and Martin are probably the worst front pairing in the league.

Weimann has had his one good game in ten, headless chicken tonight.

[Edgy Red]

3 minutes ago, Kibs said:

I really thought that as a minimum, despite the shite he’s inherited, Pearson would make us organised, hard to beat and unpleasant to play against…..but it’s actually the polar opposite. 

This group of players are very average, but they are better than they are currently showing and Pearson is responsible for that. 

I couldn't have put it better

[GrahamC]

2 minutes ago, Kibs said:

I really thought that as a minimum, despite the shite he’s inherited, Pearson would make us organised, hard to beat and unpleasant to play against…..but it’s actually the polar opposite. 

This group of players are very average, but they are better than they are currently showing and Pearson is responsible for that. 

Fair.

I’m pro Pearson but our defensive record is awful & as Russell Osman showed, you can organise a defence without spending big money.

We need to concede far fewer goals because we sure won’t score many.

[CotswoldRed]

We probably can't afford to get rid. Shame. 

[Redstart]

It's likely anyone would struggle to get a tune out of these players to be honest. We just seem to be hanging on to the January window, I hope we can afford and attract the type of players we desperately need. 

If not - job for Nuno

[CotswoldRed]

Just now, Redstart said:

It's likely anyone would struggle to get a tune out of these players to be honest. We just seem to be hanging on to the January window, I hope we can afford and attract the type of players we desperately need. 

If not - job for Nuno

We don't need a tune. We need to start by retaining posession for more than 3 passes. 

Work on that and nothing else this coming week please. 

[Bedred31]

Gregor demob happy and putting the boot in.

[steviestevieneville]

10 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said:

I was over the moon when we got him

Now I’m really disillusioned 

We seem at best to be as crap as the Holden days , if not worse.

Anyone on here still have faith that he will turn this around?

Personally I don’t think he will.

 

The players ain’t good enough 

[Hampshire reds]

can someone tell me what is his plan. 

[BasSavage88]

Just now, Hampshire reds said:

can someone tell me what is his plan. 

Slowly making us worse by the look of it 

[Fpcity]

7 minutes ago, 054123 said:

I wish that when Pearson goes he’s allowed to be honest with us and just tell us how it is. Years of bullshit and spin and going backwards slowly have sucked the life out of the club.

I want him to tell us exactly what he thinks of the club and the ‘Pillars’ put in place.

Did Lee Johnson make a remark about the stories he could tell in an autobiography if he did one? 

[The Coach]

Why do people believe this squad is average or should be doing better?

Its been over 3 years of proof now this is a squad built of league one calibre players under the direction of Ashton, Johnson and Holden.

And who let them run riot unchecked and unchallenged? Steve Lansdown

This is Lansdowns mess. Thus, should be him dishing out the money to sign new players in January. Regardless of how much he’s put into the club.

[Red]

3-0 down sat in the stands really big influence!

[Ryan_BCFC]

One of the worst but we’re stuck with him. 

[RedorDead BCFC]

I want Nige to work. My concern is that we are living on the fact he’s done it once before in getting Leicester out the Championship. But then you could say Hollowhead got a team out as well. 
 2 things I hate. 
Players are used to managers on the touch line barking instructions or advising them. So why sit in the stands? 
Corners, why do we bring all our players back when it only leads to clearing it and then an easy move for the opposition to attack straight away. 

[AG City]

Pearson played a blinder sucking a 3 year deal out of Lansdown as he knew we were vulnerable after the Holden debacle, and as others have said, knew how soft the club is from top to bottom - proven by the sanctioning of those 3 Leicester old boys who look an absolute waste of a wage. 

[Top Robin]

Have we been taken in by the Pearson hype. Previously successful managers can lose their mojo and he may have.

I think we have got to the stage where we really should have seen more of an improvement in the team and we haven't.

He has brought in 5 players who should have made the team look a bit better but they haven't really. Plus decent managers have the skill to get better from squads they inherit. 

 

 

 

 

[Bobbie]

Changing manager again is not the answer. Nige needs years to turn this shit show around 

[Fpcity]

5 minutes ago, Redstart said:

It's likely anyone would struggle to get a tune out of these players to be honest. We just seem to be hanging on to the January window, I hope we can afford and attract the type of players we desperately need. 

If not - job for Nuno

On paper it's not a bad team I don't think? Maybe Pearsons ways are too old school and they don't want to play for him. I wanted him here but nothing has changed even though there's been a over haul in the backroom staff we just aren't doing the basics. 

[Buster]

Needs money to build a team

[Wiltshire robin]

While Pearson has done worse than expected the problem at this club is much higher up than him . 

[cidercity1987]

10 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said:

Too late to pry Ryan Lowe away from Plymouth?!

I think there was a grand sum of 2 posters on OTIB who wanted him at the right time, 18 months ago.

Far too frikking late now and I don't think we can expect the owners to make the right decision when the fans don't want it.

[054123]

4 minutes ago, paul_fox said:

Did Lee Johnson make a remark about the stories he could tell in an autobiography if he did one? 

I wish he would.

Id have far more sympathy for yhff we situation of there was more honesty.

[ray savino]

This is starting to feel so much like the O’Driscoll era. Comes in to get the wages down and rebuild, but doesn’t have the resources to change things quickly. Performances and atmosphere just goes down and down.

Having real doubts if NP can change things and at least motivate this lot. Our forwards don’t get the service, but are so truly average at this level. Wells can’t play in this team. Martin is too slow and cumbersome. What does it say about Palmer and O’Dowda if they can’t get in this team.

One hope? Still two thirds of the season left to get their fingers out - provided they find a way of getting a few combative loans in January.

 

[alexukhc]

It’s alright Roy’s got mates

[firstdivision]

If you keep on doing the same thing, you will get the same results. To me, it’s so obvious what needs to happen. It needed to happen at the start of the summer. 
It’s taken a while but quite a few seem to be catching up now. 

[JoeAman08]

7 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said:

Too late to pry Ryan Lowe away from Plymouth?!

Probably! They are flying and I think if it was me, might be hard to leave that at the minute.

 

8 minutes ago, Countryfile said:

He really must go with the youth until Christmas and then recruit as well as possible.

James has been injured for some time, hence his poor performances, Wells and Martin are probably the worst front pairing in the league.

Weimann has had his one good game in ten, headless chicken tonight.

Said to my mates on the weekend it was nice to see Weimann. Look forward to seeing him again around Boxing Day 

 

3 minutes ago, Redpool said:

Why do people believe this squad is average or should be doing better?

Its been over 3 years of proof now this is a squad built of league one calibre players under the direction of Ashton, Johnson and Holden.

And who let them run riot unchecked and unchallenged? Steve Lansdown

This is Lansdowns mess. Thus, should be him dishing out the money to sign new players in January. Regardless of how much he’s put into the club.

Because this really isn’t an awful squad but it is offering up awful performances and lately awful results. Looking at the table, you might say it is about where we should be. I can accept that. 
 

The problem is, it feels like it is getting a lot worse real quick. Bad enough where this is a bottom 3 side. And while a mess, this isn’t close to a bottom 3 squad. We should be seeing decent performances at the very least. That isn’t happening. We are regressing and it is a serious worry. 

[One Team]

I don’t think changing the manager will make any difference. 

NP has made it abundantly clear what the issues are. The squad isn’t good enough; we either bear it for now or roll the dice yet again. For me I don’t see that working with the shite players we have. 

[Edgy Red]

1 minute ago, AG City said:

Pearson played a blinder sucking a 3 year deal out of Lansdown as he knew we were vulnerable after the Holden debacle, and as others have said, knew how soft the club is from top to bottom - proven by the sanctioning of those 3 Leicester old boys who look an absolute waste of a wage. 

Great point... certain fans keep saying that Nige needs transfer windows to bring in his own players but King and Simpson were poor options.

And whilst i don't think Matty James is the worst player in the world, he doesn't deserve anywhere near the plaudits he's received to date.

We are in a long relegation battle and there is no sugar coating it

[The Coach]

Just now, JoeAman08 said:

Probably! They are flying and I think if it was me, might be hard to leave that at the minute.

 

Said to my mates on the weekend it was nice to see Weimann. Look forward to seeing him again around Boxing Day 

 

Because this really isn’t an awful squad but it is offering up awful performances and lately awful results. Looking at the table, you might say it is about where we should be. I can accept that. 
 

The problem is, it feels like it is getting a lot worse real quick. Bad enough where this is a bottom 3 side. And while a mess, this isn’t close to a bottom 3 squad. We should be seeing decent performances at the very least. That isn’t happening. We are regressing and it is a serious worry. 

It is an awful squad filled with journeyman and league one standard players. It’s not difficult to see 

[Top Robin]

3 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

Changing manager again is not the answer. Nige needs years to turn this shit show around 

I think he's had his chance 

[S_C]

I think we need to understand that the club is currently 3-5 months into a transition process that is going to be, as they tend to be, a bumpy road.

We played ok for around an hour, James got injured, we tactically and mentally capitulated. That is both completely unacceptable and hugely concerning, and I don’t begrudge anyone who watched how tonight unfolded and questions if Pearson is the man to oversee the project.

With that said, I continue to be confused by how {essentially} everyone agreed this would be a very difficult season, survival is the aim, performances then reflect expectation but suddenly monocles are falling out. To say things like ‘we haven’t improved from last season’ is simply untrue. Not on the last 30 tonight, perhaps, and performances have tailed off lately (I really don’t give much consideration to results vs Bournemouth/West Brom), but we have shown sprouts of life at times that were absolutely nowhere to be seen as the shambles of last year drew to a close.

Slash the wage bill, stay up. Slash the wage bill, stay up. Slash the wage bill, stay up.. That is what this season is about. On the last 30 minutes of tonight there’s a real worry we might not manage the latter however we’re currently 10 clear of the drop so, taking a breath, on course to meet our aims.

Edited November 2, 2021 by S_C

[054123]

2 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

The problem is, it feels like it is getting a lot worse real quick. Bad enough where this is a bottom 3 side. And while a mess, this isn’t close to a bottom 3 squad. We should be seeing decent performances at the very least. That isn’t happening. We are regressing and it is a serious worry. 

I think this the concern for many now.

[Northern Red]

1 minute ago, JonDolman said:

Holden had us 8th going into February, with injury numbers ranging from 5 players to over half the squad throughout the whole season.

Otib: 'He is clueless, sack him!'

Pearson loses 3-0 away at Birmingham and has us 18th. Looking like a team heading for relegation.

Otib: 'Pearson has such a difficult job.'

Have a day off you boring ****.

[Top Robin]

5 minutes ago, Buster said:

Needs money to build a team

He's brought in 5 players which should have improved things

[!james]

As someone else has said it's similar to the O'Driscoll situation, a good reputation elsewhere (Leicester & Doncaster), talk a great game and both taking over a following a basket case of recent years (Johnson/Ashton, Holden & Coppell, Millen, McInnes) and then having the unenviable task of clearing up the mess. 

Both are eloquent speakers and talk a good game and no doubt put a lot of hard work behind the scenes to improve things but ultimately being associated with absolutely turgid performances on the pitch.

 

Edited November 2, 2021 by !james

[AshtonGreat]

7 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

Changing manager again is not the answer. Nige needs years to turn this shit show around 

Unrealistic in this day and age

[TomThumb84]

2 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Holden had us 8th going into February, with injury numbers ranging from 5 players to over half the squad throughout the whole season.

Otib: 'He is clueless, sack him!'

Pearson loses 3-0 away at Birmingham and has us 18th. Looking like a team heading for relegation.

Otib: 'Pearson has such a difficult job.'

Holden lost 0-6 at Watford, and Pearson had us 4th in August.

Picking out random points in time to make a non-point is easy.

[054123]

3 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Holden had us 8th going into February, with injury numbers ranging from 5 players to over half the squad throughout the whole season.

Otib: 'He is clueless, sack him!'

Pearson loses 3-0 away at Birmingham and has us 18th. Looking like a team heading for relegation.

Otib: 'Pearson has such a difficult job.'

I thought Dean Holden had a lot of sympathy from many. 

I think Pearson has also taken on a difficult job.

[Rudolf Hucker]

3 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Holden had us 8th going into February, with injury numbers ranging from 5 players to over half the squad throughout the whole season.

Otib: 'He is clueless, sack him!'

Pearson loses 3-0 away at Birmingham and has us 18th. Looking like a team heading for relegation.

Otib: 'Pearson has such a difficult job.'

Can you not recollect just how shit we were under Holden?

[TV Tom]

7 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

I think there was a grand sum of 2 posters on OTIB who wanted him at the right time, 18 months ago.

Far too frikking late now and I don't think we can expect the owners to make the right decision when the fans don't want it.

Plymouth fans were calling fir his head only 12 months ago

[GrahamC]

6 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Holden had us 8th going into February, with injury numbers ranging from 5 players to over half the squad throughout the whole season.

Otib: 'He is clueless, sack him!'

Pearson loses 3-0 away at Birmingham and has us 18th. Looking like a team heading for relegation.

Otib: 'Pearson has such a difficult job.'

So you are saying that we should have stuck with Holden then?

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

7 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

Changing manager again is not the answer. Nige needs years to turn this shit show around 

A decent manager could turn it round more quickly.  We’re going backwards.

[TV Tom]

2 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Can you not recollect just how shit we were under Holden?

We’re no better now in fact we are worse

[pl00peh91]

2 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Can you not recollect just how shit we were under Holden?

Only towards the end. We were then worse under Pearson until the end of the season.

[Redrascal2]

26 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said:

I was over the moon when we got him

Now I’m really disillusioned 

We seem at best to be as crap as the Holden days , if not worse.

Anyone on here still have faith that he will turn this around?

Personally I don’t think he will.

 

Not any more.

[grifty]

I'd prefer to sack about 12 players than the manager...

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

6 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Can you not recollect just how shit we were under Holden?

Until about six matches from the end of Holden’s tenure we were in contention and playing decent football.  A shocking run of defeats hugely affected by the worst injury crisis we’ve ever had (and in empty stadiums) did for him, but I don’t recall us ever playing as badly as we did tonight.

Edited November 2, 2021 by The Dolman Pragmatist

[Red-Robbo]

I actually think the coaching is as much to blame as the players. These guys are not all "L1 standard" as some claim. We've seem most of them perform far better, both here and at other clubs. Lets face it, we've seen most of them play better earlier in the season.

It's in this respect, I wonder if Pearson isn't someone who talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

As Leicester fans have told us, Craig Shakespeare was crucial to his success there in their opinion.

Do we need better replacements for Simpson and Downing?

 

[red colin]

3 minutes ago, 054123 said:

I think this the concern for many now.

Have to agree with this we are not improving which is niges first priority.  Organisation and set up is niges remit no one else end of. I am gutted to start thinking that nige has just not got the fire in him anymore i am really in his camp but hey he is not improving at all. Stressed  

[Fuber]

26 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

He is a dinosaur. Those older managers living off past successes are all failing. Forest and Cardiff were smart enough to get rid. Middlesborough aren’t exactly flying either. Without looking I reckon the top 10 teams don’t have a manager older than 50. Fresh faces and fresh ideas is the way forward. 

LJ got us into this mess. Along with MA.

Pearson's signings are the only ones barring a handful of individuals who seem to care, we're still bogged down by the likes of O'Dowda, Palmer, etc on the books who shouldn't even have a career at this level imo.

[JoeAman08]

5 minutes ago, Redpool said:

It is an awful squad filled with journeyman and league one standard players. It’s not difficult to see 

It really isn’t. 
 

Bentley most would say is a top keeper in this division.

Tanner been a good buy. Simpson NP signing

Kalas would get into most top 10 sides in this division. Atkinson has made the step up well enough if not spectacular. Baker a good defender when fit and resigned by Nige.

Dasilva probably not up to the levels he was pre injury. Pring been one of the surprises of the season
 

Massengo one of the best young players in the division. James I am not a big fan but one of NP signings so on him. Bakinson I like but a lot don’t. King a NP signing. Williams a good player and his man Rennie not got him fit. 
 

Ok up top is lacking quality. Though I think it is easily arguable he isn’t getting the best from any of them. In some cases flogging them and in others often playing them out of position or both. 
 

So even if we take your statement at face value, how many here are ones he has brought to the club or brought back that you speak of? 
 

 

[TomThumb84]

Course NP may walk.

Cannot imagine even he imagined or realised the culture of absolute mediocrity and comfort that has soaked through this club since about 1998.

Must be exhausting.

[pigeon]

God love us as City fans... Who are we honestly going to get that is better than Pearson? He's the most proven manager we've had in decades. The reason we're s*** is because the squad we have is s***. 

We had a good couple of years and SL and Ashton got over-excited and over-confident and thought we could sell these great players and replace them with cheaper, but just as great, players. Spoiler alert; they were wrong.

Through multiple bad decisions, we've accumulated a squad that is simply not good enough and laden with players that are falling down the pyramid (Wieman, Martin, Wells, etc.) Is it a coincidence that all of those players are strikers and our biggest struggle on the pitch is scoring goals? I think not. 

Basically, Pearson is the best Bristol City are going to get. I'd be happy to stay up this season and have some continuity with Pearson for at least another 12 months before suggesting we sack him. The focus for me is on Lansdown to put some serious money in to turn this ship around, otherwise I worry for us...

[Smokey]

4 minutes ago, Fuber said:

LJ got us into this mess. Along with MA.

Pearson's signings are the only ones barring a handful of individuals who seem to care, we're still bogged down by the likes of O'Dowda, Palmer, etc on the books who shouldn't even have a career at this level imo.

Lansdown has got us in this mess. Carbon copy of after Gary Johnson had left