Coventry City away match day thread

[Finley_Smith10]

I just feel bad for all those fans that travelled up to watch today. Can’t even control a game against 10 men. Lansdown only comes out when we win. Whole club is a shambles at the moment 

[joe jordans teeth]

5 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

A local derby v Forest Green should be interesting next season 

And the rover’s 

[robin_unreliant]

Feels like we are in the same kind of freefall as under Holden. We'll have enough time to relegate ourselves this time. 

[M.D]

That Leicester poster was correct ,Pearson can't do it without Shakespeare by his side, the results we have and from his career without him show this..

[Reigate Red]

1 minute ago, Murraysrightplum said:

On the bright side, we all enjoyed league 1 last time round

Agreed but that didn't start well and I fear we wouldn't quite enjoy it so much if it happens.  

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

3 minutes ago, VT05763 said:

Yes they could.

Go on then tell me who? and are they available?

[MC RISK77]

1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

He also lost 8 in a row. We’re nowhere near that. 

It’s not Lee Johnson that I hate per sé, it’s his favourable treatment that I can only put down to nepotism. 

If NP gets the same level of favour as LJ did, then maybe I can let it go a little. 

Fair enough- you do seem slightly obsessed with Johnson but see your point.

Pearson went from feb to end of October without a home win, their is plenty of championship experience in that squad and internationals- I don’t but into the fact that they are a dreadful bunch- they are not being coached well they are not motivated and I thought someone of his experience could at least bring that to the table… telling the press after every loss that we are a poor team Is not exactly motivational. 

I manage a high performing Sales team in a very competitive financial service industry- I make my people believe that they are better than I know they are (mainly because I am shite at recruiting) but it seems to work and their engagement is a credit to them- man management is all about the leader in charge

[ralphindevon]

6 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

There'll be clowns on here who blame Pearson for that, despite him not being there.

He picked the team, he picked the formation, he’s been training the team for 9 months. I think he’s a little bit responsible 

[The Original OTIB]

Just now, Bodiesaffer said:

No manager can shake this mess up.  They all have to go.  Complete mental lock out..  Nigel needs to sack off some of these pros. They are not good enough fact they’ve had there chance. 

 

I disagree now. That was a game to be won, or at least controlled. This is coaching and this team (coaches & manager) are not doing their jobs. I 100% believe that a good coach could sort this out, not to climb the table, but to do the basics and pick up points. At 2-2 a point would not have been so very bad, but we were too open, too sloppy, too headless, too lazy, and the inevitable came to pass.

[Red-Robbo]

I'm going back to the days where I never bothered to follow away games, just looked at the final score when I had the time in what was a busy social day for me.

Following this crap ruins my weekend and wastes my time. 

[Ivorguy]

5 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said:

It’s difficult to blame Lansdown for things going wrong with Pearson when 99.9% of the fans were elated that Pearson joined us.

Yes, but we weren’t at interviews or privy to references and search reports etc.

We know our Board is just a nothing and our owner has proved himself serially unable to recruit well, except for Cotts who then got promotion a season early for the owner and was not backed and was sacked - ridiculous 

[Unan]

Refund please 

[054123]

5 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said:

On the bright side, we all enjoyed league 1 last time round

Eventually when Keith Dawe appointed Cotterill.

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

5 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said:

On the bright side, we all enjoyed league 1 last time round

Yes, but we won't have Cotts this time.

[George Rs]

I don’t understand the complete differences in our club and what led to them, prem level stadium and training ground yet we play like league one or two, how the board allowed this to happen I will never know 

[Slack Bladder]

Seriously we run out of steam half way through a second half. 

Pathetic 

[Ivorguy]

5 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said:

On the bright side, we all enjoyed league 1 last time round

On this showing we won’t be staying around long enough to enjoy it.  Through the trapdoor we will go!

[Banjo Red]

I hope you feel really good about yourselves as you all travel to your big houses in your fancy cars you pathetic bunch of wasters.

[054123]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

I'm going back to the days where I never bothered to follow away games, just looked at the final score when I had the time in what was a busy social day for me.

Following this crap ruins my weekend and wastes my time. 

That’s modern media for you.

Away days stood outside Tandy watching final score through the window whilst the girlfriend was shopping

[The Gasbuster]

5 minutes ago, Winston said:

What an absolute spineless, pathetic bunch of so called professional footballers we have at our club

Playing against Man City with 10 men I could accept… but not Coventry City. Coventry totally deserved that win. That worked tirelessly, and showed levels of determination that we could only dream of from our players!

Agreed;

 

And Cov have one of the lowest budgets in the Champ. Our players' average salary will be higher than theirs !

[Dingbat]

2 minutes ago, Bodiesaffer said:

No manager can shake this mess up.  They all have to go.  Complete mental lock out..  Nigel needs to sack off some of these pros. They are not good enough fact they’ve had there chance. 

 

The trouble is that Pearson decided to go with a very thin squad. You can only do that  if the core of those are dependable. Our squad is anything but that. His decision on the squad size was suicidal, and we are where we are because of it. 
He may well call out players from this game and say he’ll replace them, but he’ll only be replacing them with the players be bawled out the week before. 

[Waconda]

2 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

Go on then tell me who? and are they available?

Dozens of them. The idea that this group of players is un-coachable and crap is simply laughable.

 

[ChippenhamRed]

7 minutes ago, desert said:

I spent 77 quid on a shirt and shorts for my 5 year old on Tuesday before the shit served up at birmingham. & now this. I want my money back and to advise my kid to support anybody but this shower. 45 years of following this utter under achievement - and the last 18 months are the worst of the lot. High performance centre - my arse

My son’s been supporting City since his first game in 2018 (age 7). It’s been thoroughly uninspiring throughout that period. He wants to watch Premier League games and I find it very difficult to blame him - why wouldn’t he?

[pillred]

Remember remember it's only November Sean Taylor :laugh:.

Edited November 6, 2021 by pillred
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[BCFCGav]

Warnock sacked. Is now the time…? 

I don’t know if I’m joking or not!!!

[Red-Robbo]

1 minute ago, Slack Bladder said:

Seriously we run out of steam half way through a second half. 

Pathetic 

 

This is it.

I don't expect this team to shake up the division. Work in progress and all that. 

But we can't seem to compete beyond the hour mark. 

Fitness? Nerves? 

Whatever it is new coaches and/or sports psychologists are going to be the only way to stop us continually embarrassing ourselves.

[Supersonic Robin]

Just now, The Original OTIB said:

I disagree now. That was a game to be won, or at least controlled. This is coaching and this team (coaches & manager) are not doing their jobs. I 100% believe that a good coach could sort this out, not to climb the table, but to do the basics and pick up points. At 2-2 a point would not have been so very bad, but we were too open, too sloppy, too headless, too lazy, and the inevitable came to pass.

Tend to agree that no matter how poor a squad may be, a manager should get be able to get the team doing the absolute basics.

I'm not convinced, however, that LJ, Holden, Pearson, McAllister, Simpson, Downing, Fleming etc are ALL dreadful coaches. Is there an element of players failing to understand or implement instructions? Is it something else?

[Ska Junkie]

1 minute ago, BCFCGav said:

Warnock sacked. Is now the time…? 

I don’t know if I’m joking or not!!!

I thought the same tbh. He wouldn't put up with this lack of balls!

[keflav]

18 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said:

only seen when we are winning

Nope I'm here all the time...:laugh: I hope your talking about Lansdown

Edited November 6, 2021 by keflav

[Dan Robin]

10 minutes ago, Super said:

The fact is we looked like we had the ten men.

It can happen when you play against a side that in this moment is stronger, with less injuries, with more confidence. Before the match I would have been happy with a draw,  but when they scored the second honestly I thought that a draw would have been an opportunity missed, because even with all our weaknesses we were battling quite well, we were two times ahead on score despite all (bad refereeing included).

IMO a draw would not have been undeserved and losing with a late goal was harsh. 

Anyway, massive work to be done during the international pause.

Edited November 6, 2021 by Dan Robin

[054123]

1 minute ago, Dingbat said:

The trouble is that Pearson decided to go with a very thin squad. You can only do that  if the core of those are dependable. Our squad is anything but that. His decision on the squad size was suicidal, and we are where we are because of it. 
He may well call out players from this game and say he’ll replace them, but he’ll only be replacing them with the players be bawled out the week before. 

When you say ‘decided’ how do you know that?

How much did we have to spend on players and wages?

How much of the wage bill did we have to chop due to the mid management of Ashton?

I’ll happily concede Nigel Pearson is failing if we also concede Lansdown has overseen a slow cluster **** spanning 3 years (for a change)

[Fordy62]

1 minute ago, MC RISK77 said:

Fair enough- you do seem slightly obsessed with Johnson but see your point.

Pearson went from feb to end of October without a home win, their is plenty of championship experience in that squad and internationals- I don’t but into the fact that they are a dreadful bunch- they are not being coached well they are not motivated and I thought someone of his experience could at least bring that to the table… telling the press after every loss that we are a poor team Is not exactly motivational. 

I manage a high performing Sales team in a very competitive financial service industry- I make my people believe that they are better than I know they are (mainly because I am shite at recruiting) but it seems to work and their engagement is a credit to them- man management is all about the leader in charge

I completely understand. I investigate murder - and we solve pretty much every thing that comes our way (I’m not sure what my point is, but you told me you’re and in defence I’ve had six pints of Weston’s!)

This squad wasn’t put together by Pearson… I feel it only fair he should get to put his own squad together. Should that be at the cost of relegation? No. Absolutely not. But we’re a little way off that yet. 

[BCFCGav]

1 minute ago, Ska Junkie said:

I thought the same tbh. He wouldn't put up with this lack of balls!

He certainly wouldn’t see a team fall into L1 either. My god what has this club done to me. I want bloody Warnock.

[Major Isewater]

I thought we were unlucky.

We more than matched Coventry and it was a good match to watch.

I am, however, totally sick that we came away with nothing. 
 

Surely we’ve been working on seeing out matches? 

[maxjak]

We are now a sad joke of a team.....how the players have the audacity to pick up their wages after this performance, is a travesty.   I am speechless at how far we have fallen, I feel genuinely embarrassed to say I support this club...........we are a disgrace.  In front of 3k City fans who have spent their wages to travel to Coventry.  The team that went there in 1976 to gain a 2-2 draw to stay in the then 1st Division would piss all over the rabble who purport to represent the City of Bristol..............I am ashamed.

[bexhill reds]

11 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

There'll be clowns on here who blame Pearson for that, despite him not being there.

I’m done with the current management set up now, I don’t know what system we are trying to play and neither do the players it seems, we can’t defend, we can’t hold onto the ball and we’re not creative enough, so that’s no area of the pitch where you can say improvement is evident. Sometimes you have to accept that somethings are not going to work and this feels like one of those situations. 
 

Time to see how much money Wilder wants

[City1970]

1 minute ago, RedsTilliDie said:

I don’t understand the complete differences in our club and what led to them, prem level stadium and training ground yet we play like league one or two, how the board allowed this to happen I will never know 

The board are the problem in my eyes. They back a novice but don’t back someone with a proven record. 
 

Most of the players are just not good enough at Championship level.

The whole club is in a mess.

[cidercity1987]

1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said:

This is gonna be a joyful second half to see how we manage to throw away 1-0 versus 10 men

You would say it's unbelievable but it really is so predictable.

What a bunch of ******* soft centre wimpy pricks

[The Original OTIB]

3 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Tend to agree that no matter how poor a squad may be, a manager should get be able to get the team doing the absolute basics.

I'm not convinced, however, that LJ, Holden, Pearson, McAllister, Simpson, Downing, Fleming etc are ALL dreadful coaches. Is there an element of players failing to understand or implement instructions? Is it something else?

Of course there's an element of that, but good defending is based on hours or repetitive drills and the right attitude. It is abundantly clear that we are not putting in those hours.

[MC RISK77]

2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

I completely understand. I investigate murder - and we solve pretty much every thing that comes our way (I’m not sure what my point is, but you told me you’re and in defence I’ve had six pints of Weston’s!)

This squad wasn’t put together by Pearson… I feel it only fair he should get to put his own squad together. Should that be at the cost of relegation? No. Absolutely not. But we’re a little way off that yet. 

Haha enjoy the cider- my point was, he inherited a squad low on confidence but he does nothing but reaffirm the fact that he thinks their rubbish… that is not the man management I expected from an experienced football hard man

[Pippintogg]

11 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

I honestly believe we have an ok squad but they are mentally pathetic. Being in a lead scares the shit out of them. We need to bring in a sports psychologist or something. We are barrelling down the league with a manager who is clearly struggling to cope. Make the change, and let the rescue mission begin ASAP.

I have been offering to get involved with the mental health/psychology for over 2 years. I had a brief chat with LJ, but getting involved with the club I have supported for 51 years is a likely as us keeping a clean sheet. They feel they have all bases covered which is clearly not the case. Their sports psychology department is obviously not working. I'm now in discussions with another Championship club that has more ambition, and sees what I do as another opportunity to  cement their place near the top of the table. Such a shame that I have to take my business away from the club I support.

[Bar BS3]

Hands up those who were completely against appointing Mark Robins here - because you wanted an experienced manager, like Nigel Pearson...?! 

[George Rs]

1 minute ago, City1970 said:

The board are the problem in my eyes. They back a novice but don’t back someone with a proven record. 
 

Most of the players are just not good enough at Championship level.

The whole club is in a mess.

True, but a lot of the players in our squad, minus the youngers, have played at championship levels for years and played well either for other teams or us when we have stints that have us in the top 6 by Christmas, so how the **** can none of them play to any degree of decency now. Makes no sense imo 

[Ska Junkie]

1 minute ago, BCFCGav said:

He certainly wouldn’t see a team fall into L1 either. My god what has this club done to me. I want bloody Warnock.

Deal til the end of the season and he's managed the club he always wanted to and we stay up and can go again with a new coach as a Championship club while Warnock sails off into retirement with our thanks.

[Red Exile]

10 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I'm going back to the days where I never bothered to follow away games, just looked at the final score when I had the time in what was a busy social day for me.

Following this crap ruins my weekend and wastes my time. 

100% this! A source of greatly unwanted frustration week in and week out.

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

Just now, VT05763 said:

Dozens of them. The idea that this group of players is un-coachable and crap is simply laughable.

 

No it's not, the ones left of this bunch of players under LJ etc are just earning a comfortable living and just don't care as long as they get their massive wage cheque every month. They know they have safe contracts and know that the manager will be the one to get sacked not them. Ashton Gate has been a rest home for too many players for too long and it needs a shake up from the top to the bottom. How can a professional player not know how to pass the ball and that seems to be the main problem, they shouldn't need to be coached the basics, they should have these abilities and if they don't then they should not be playing profession football. These basics are not down to the coaches at all.

[Sir Leigh of Somerset]

12 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

Yes, but we won't have Cotts this time.

Perhaps we will........

[cidercity1987]

The sad sad thing is this is Coventry City without a pot to piss in, sitting pretty in 4th in the champ. A squad of very very limited footballers playing football we could only dream of. Kyle Macfadzean star CB ffs

Edited November 6, 2021 by cidercity1987

[BanburyRed]

I didn't start following this thread until after my daughters 8th birthday party, then in the car we go 2-1 up, happy days methinks, then checking into a hotel and switching on the room TV, imagine my shock that we've lost 3-2 with yet another 90+min goal.......losing 3-1 in the 2nd half to 10 men is really unforgiveable.  I fear the worst this season now. This squad is so mentally weak. Unlike Coventry.

[pillred]

1 minute ago, Ska Junkie said:

Deal til the end of the season and he's managed the club he always wanted to and we stay up and can go again with a new coach as a Championship club while Warnock sails off into retirement with our thanks.

Let's be straight here he couldn't possibly do any worse could he.

[Sturgess]

2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Hands up those who were completely against appointing Mark Robins here - because you wanted an experienced manager, like Nigel Pearson...?! 

And you honestly expect it’d be any different

[pongo88]

12 minutes ago, sglosbcfc said:

Huge game against Blackburn on the horizon. Let us hope Pearson is back on the touchline, Baker and Atkinson alongside Kalas crashing into challenges, James bossing the midfield and Semenyo giving us some pace in attacking areas.

COYR

Just about every game for the last two months has been a huge game. The problem is, as time goes by, the games get hugerer and hugerer

[Waconda]

2 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

No it's not, the ones left of this bunch of players under LJ etc are just earning a comfortable living and just don't care as long as they get their massive wage cheque every month. They know they have safe contracts and know that the manager will be the one to get sacked not them. Ashton Gate has been a rest home for too many players for too long and it needs a shake up from the top to the bottom. How can a professional player not know how to pass the ball and that seems to be the main problem, they shouldn't need to be coached the basics, they should have these abilities and if they don't then they should not be playing profession football. These basics are not down to the coaches at all.

Totally disagree with you on every point but respect you view.

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

2 minutes ago, Sir Leigh of Somerset said:

Perhaps we will........

We hope, but will never happen. SL doesn't get on with him, he's not a yes man.

[RedM]

It was inevitable, we were all just waiting for them to score again. They looked hungry and positive. We looked clueless, sloppy and lazy.

Toxic at the end from a lot of unhappy fans of ALL ages venting their feelings. This performance was inexcusable.

[MC RISK77]

3 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

The sad sad thing is this is Coventry City without a pot to piss in, sitting pretty in 4th in the champ. A squad of very very limited footballers playing football we could only dream of. Kyle Macfadzean star CB ffs

Didn’t we try and sign him once?

[The Original OTIB]

2 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

The sad sad thing is this is Coventry City without a pot to piss in, sitting pretty in 4th in the champ. A squad of very very limited footballers playing football we could only dream of. Kyle Macfadzean star CB ffs

Indeed, we don't have as crap a squad as many say, we have abject coaching and a poor mental attitude. Items that can be fixed suffient enought to stay up. We are odds on relegation fodder now.

[sludge]

2 minutes ago, pillred said:

Let's be straight here he couldn't possibly do any worse could he.

Genuine question - in the last 20 years or so  how many ‘bad’ jobs has he done? 

[Ska Junkie]

2 minutes ago, pillred said:

Let's be straight here he couldn't possibly do any worse could he.

I'd bet we wouldn't go down while that is inevitable at the present time IMHO.

[cidercity1987]

Just now, MC RISK77 said:

Didn’t we try and sign him once?

Yeah, when we were in a L1 until we realised he was a more error prone version of Flint

[Fordy62]

3 minutes ago, Pippintogg said:

I have been offering to get involved with the mental health/psychology for over 2 years. I had a brief chat with LJ, but getting involved with the club I have supported for 51 years is a likely as us keeping a clean sheet. They feel they have all bases covered which is clearly not the case. Their sports psychology department is obviously not working. I'm now in discussions with another Championship club that has more ambition, and sees what I do as another opportunity to  cement their place near the top of the table. Such a shame that I have to take my business away from the club I support.

I’ve just thought of my counter point (it took a while), if you had a team of 25 and all but four were recruited by you, and some of them were guaranteed to be brilliant (judging by the amount they were being paid) but actually they were dogshit, you’d struggle to make your sales targets no matter what you said to them or no matter how you told them how to sell. Especially bearing in mind that the previous two sales managers have struggled to get a tune out of them. 

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

3 minutes ago, pillred said:

Let's be straight here he couldn't possibly do any worse could he.

The tea lady couldn't do any worse with this bunch of losers!

[Red Exile]

7 minutes ago, City1970 said:

The board are the problem in my eyes. They back a novice but don’t back someone with a proven record. 
 

Most of the players are just not good enough at Championship level.

The whole club is in a mess.

I think the problem is that we don't have a board...we have an 'owner'.

And where has he been this season? Deafening silence.

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

1 minute ago, RedM said:

It was inevitable, we were all just waiting for them to score again. They looked hungry and positive. We looked clueless, sloppy and lazy.

Toxic at the end from a lot of unhappy fans of ALL ages venting their feelings. This performance was inexcusable.

Yes and the problem is this is the regular thing!

[chinapig]

Just now, RedM said:

It was inevitable, we were all just waiting for them to score again. They looked hungry and positive. We looked clueless, sloppy and lazy.

Toxic at the end from a lot of unhappy fans of ALL ages venting their feelings. This performance was inexcusable.

And how many players will lose any sleep tonight I wonder? Their whole attitude is distinctly meh.

[pillred]

1 minute ago, sludge said:

Genuine question - in the last 20 years or so  how many ‘bad’ jobs has he done? 

I don't know but I do know his successes must far  far outweigh his failures after 1603 games.

[maxjak]

4 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Just about every game for the last two months has been a huge game. The problem is, as time goes by, the games get hugerer and hugerer

HUGERER?   Really?

[RedM]

1 minute ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

Yes and the problem is this is the regular thing!

Certainly become a habit now

[Major Isewater]

3 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

Didn’t we try and sign him once?

Yep, he had a virus however and was out for quite a bit. We signed someone else in the mean time leaving KM to say ‘ no,no,no’.

[Dingbat]

7 minutes ago, 054123 said:

When you say ‘decided’ how do you know that?

How much did we have to spend on players and wages?

How much of the wage bill did we have to chop due to the mid management of Ashton?

I’ll happily concede Nigel Pearson is failing if we also concede Lansdown has overseen a slow cluster **** spanning 3 years (for a change)

He’s come out a number of times and said he preferred to run with a smaller squad. We are now massively hamstrung by that. 
Having said that, I’d absolutely concede that the mis-management by Lansdown leading up to NP appointment meant Nige’s job was almost impossible.