Never to the dark side Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61018432 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pezo Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 How about boycotting showing it and not being part of it or is kneeling as much as the BBC can tolerate in support of racism/slavery issues. I bet Linkers pockets will be a bit fatter after the tournament while he's spent the last few years banging on about racism/slavery issues, he's basically now profiting from racism and slavery just second/third hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 20/01/2022 at 17:44, Never to the dark side said: I still maintain my stance on the 2022 World cup. Presumably that was before you spent 7.5 hours on the World Cup Portal. https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/216356-spent-seven-and-half-hours-getting-into-world-cup-ticket-portal/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) Part of the article says 10,000 England followers will be heading to the middle East in November/december I presume that all the English followers that make the trip will be able to see all the England games in person. https://fanbanter.co.uk/fans-attending-england-games-in-qatar-face-death-penalty-if-certain-offence-is-committed/ Edited June 11, 2022 by Never to the dark side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 As of yesterday and other than the Wales fixture there were plenty of tickets available for all England's matches (and potential matches.) Not much by way of accommodation, certainly little affordable, but loads of tickets. I like Doha, but wouldn't bother with this disruptive, commercial fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) On 18/11/2021 at 06:52, The Batman said: If they had anything about them, they'd have forfeited their selection as a matter of principle. "ZeRo ToLeRaNcE tO rAcIsM aNd AlL fOrMs Of DiScRiMiNaTiOn" they keep telling us. About time they did something tangible with that. End of the day, they do this "protest" because a terrible murder happened 4000 miles away in Minneapolis that has no relevance to British football. Qatar is also 4000 miles away and has a direct relevance to football yet not a word from anyone bar some other countries wearing a few tshirts What an odd surface level take on things. Why would they? You can believe in something and not devote every decision in your life to it. I absolutely guarantee that you do the same in your life, as do we all. Life would be impossible otherwise. You're literally this meme: On 18/11/2021 at 06:52, The Batman said: "ZeRo ToLeRaNcE tO rAcIsM aNd AlL fOrMs Of DiScRiMiNaTiOn" they keep telling us. About time they did something tangible with that. End of the day, they do this "protest" because a terrible murder happened 4000 miles away in Minneapolis that has no relevance to British football. Qatar is also 4000 miles away and has a direct relevance to football yet not a word from anyone bar some other countries wearing a few tshirts You can't seriously think that distance should be the only or main measure of relevance for an issue - are there no other reasons you think events in a country like the USA might have more impact here than events in the middle east? Not a world from anyone? It's been talked about continuously in our media for years now. On 18/11/2021 at 06:52, The Batman said: Practice what you preach and all that. People shouldn't be afraid to call out people's BS. I've done it to people from all walks of life, and it's about time the media started putting these guys under fire too. You want the media to put our national team under fire for playing in the world cup? Odd. It sounds like you'd rather live somewhere where people didn't attempt to protest or improve society because if you ever stop, or don't abide by it 24/7/365 to some arbitrary standard they'll be publicly called out and shamed for not being virtuous enough. Fundamentally though, you can absolutely believe in something and not devote your entire life to it, as I said. I suspect you're anti slavery yet have a smart phone with a chip made in some sweat shop in the far east in it, your oil comes from the middle east, our government sells arms to them we then profit from, your clothes come from there, we ship our waste there, and so on - our entire society is build on exploiting others. You're a smart guy though so I suspect you knew all of that and have bought into the negativity around this particular gesture itself for some reason. Edited June 11, 2022 by IAmNick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 11/06/2022 at 07:19, IAmNick said: What an odd surface level take on things. Why would they? You can believe in something and not devote every decision in your life to it. I absolutely guarantee that you do the same in your life, as do we all. Life would be impossible otherwise. You're literally this meme: You can't seriously think that distance should be the only or main measure of relevance for an issue - are there no other reasons you think events in a country like the USA might have more impact here than events in the middle east? Not a world from anyone? It's been talked about continuously in our media for years now. You want the media to put our national team under fire for playing in the world cup? Odd. It sounds like you'd rather live somewhere where people didn't attempt to protest or improve society because if you ever stop, or don't abide by it 24/7/365 to some arbitrary standard they'll be publicly called out and shamed for not being virtuous enough. Fundamentally though, you can absolutely believe in something and not devote your entire life to it, as I said. I suspect you're anti slavery yet have a smart phone with a chip made in some sweat shop in the far east in it, your oil comes from the middle east, our government sells arms to them we then profit from, your clothes come from there, we ship our waste there, and so on - our entire society is build on exploiting others. You're a smart guy though so I suspect you knew all of that and have bought into the negativity around this particular gesture itself for some reason. Morning Nick. Been a while, hope you are well. I stand by it. Always will do. I could go over it detail by detail but busy day today and I'd simply be rehashing what I've put in numerous posts in numerous topics over time. I've discovered that posters on here don't like inconvenient truths and I've provided videos and links to the press releases and articles made at the time proving my points, and as time has gone on, it just makes my case stronger. You and others will disagree and that's perfectly fine. I enjoy the interaction on here as long as nobody gets abusive with personal attacks which I'd like to think we've all stayed within the boundaries of. The one time the media had the balls to ask Southgate about a Boycott, he said its complicated and then spoke about sainsburys. Nothing since. The media have obviously been told not to ask questions about it in briefings before. I avoided all the qualifiers and won't watch the tournament. I stand by what I say with tangible efforts. Some might think it's weird but why would I spend my whole time critisizing the tournament and then watch it? Not for me. As its on at Christmas, I'll just watch a load of Christmas films while the games are on. People can do what they wish but if they preach one set of ideals but go against them for their own life then I will call it out. At the moment, anything other than a Boycott of Qatar will be meaningless in my view. If they stuck with just the support of the black lives matter movement then I wouldn't be able to critisice the Qatar World Cup to them because its whataboutery. But its not anymore, even though some say it never was in the first place (I kept the receipts so if I need to get the links and videos back from the time then I can do). I could use other numerous examples but as I said, busy day. Enjoy your Sunday all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61764772.amp Not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 11 hours ago, The Batman said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61764772.amp Not good enough. Hope you're well too mate. What I think is slightly dangerous is this policing of action/"virtue" of the people trying to do something. We end up in a situation where the only option is to do nothing at all, because nobody can live by all aspects of these things perfectly because they're so ingrained in our society - and that's exactly what conservative (with a small c)/traditionalist people who stir this up want. It's intentional on their part and happens everywhere. Climate change is another great example where the same thing happens, as is gender equality... And it's the same crowd under the hood who spread it in almost all cases (not you by the way, I'm talking about those who preach those ways of thinking to an audience). They don't want change, so they disparage anyone who does anything. It's better to do something than nothing, no matter how small. None of us can change the world... but nothing will ever change otherwise! I'll probably watch the WC, but only via some "unofficial" online stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 According to The Price of Football podcast, it apparently will cost an England fan over £7000 to watch every game in Qatar. The main problem being the price of accommodation. They are considering using cruise ships. I won’t be going anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jun/13/saudi-arabia-bans-pixar-lightyear-over-same-sex-kiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReds Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Southgate got more things to worry about than actual equality outside his little virtue signalling comfort zone. Don't worry about the human rights of people in Qatar, or the people (slaves) who built and died for the Stadiums that he will happily turn up and play in, but at least he made a very important comment on the term "WAGS" being disrespectful. Sums up these types of people perfectly. Tackle the hard issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/canadamexicousa2026/media-releases/media-release-greater-than-fwc-2026-greater-than-host-cities-announcement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 13/06/2022 at 11:20, exAtyeoMax said: According to The Price of Football podcast, it apparently will cost an England fan over £7000 to watch every game in Qatar. The main problem being the price of accommodation. They are considering using cruise ships. I won’t be going anyway. Accommodation is the big hitter as tickets prices for the group games are quite reasonable england v wales cost me just under £60 but still got to get there and find a place to stay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, sticks 1969 said: Accommodation is the big hitter as tickets prices for the group games are quite reasonable england v wales cost me just under £60 but still got to get there and find a place to stay Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) Even without the slavery, deaths building stadia, institutionalised 19th century social views and apartheid like conditions this World Cup would be a farce. Won by virtue of bribery and endemic corruption in FIFA, taking place in a country with zero capability, history or interest in football outside sport washing their image. **** Qatar and **** this World Cup. Tragic that Australia lost out to this embarrassing bid. Hoping for a major doping or bribery scandal to take place to cap this shit show off. Edited June 17, 2022 by Chairman Mao 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 8 hours ago, sticks 1969 said: Accommodation is the big hitter as tickets prices for the group games are quite reasonable england v wales cost me just under £60 but still got to get there and find a place to stay For flights take a look at Qatar Airways from Sofia, Bucharest or Belgrade, which seem to be coming up as some of the cheaper options from what I've found. You can get from London to Sofia or Bucharest one-way for under £50 on various dates in the second half of November (Belgrade is slightly trickier). You might need to spend a night there on the way out, but it should save quite a bit compared to flying direct from the UK to Doha. If you don't mind an even more circuitous route, London > Istanbul > Beirut > Doha was (I think) the cheapest I've found so far. Accommodation is a challenge, especially when you factor in the minimum stay requirements. There was decent availability when I last checked but some of the options were eye-wateringly expensive, especially if travelling solo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/england-fans-qatar-alcohol-woe-28045191 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/england-fans-qatar-alcohol-woe-28045191 Every major tournament your going to get shot your going to get mugged No hotels bla bla bla bla bullshit every time 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: Every major tournament your going to get shot your going to get mugged No hotels bla bla bla bla bullshit every time It’s all click bait for media companies In South Africa everyone was gonna get kidnapped for ransom . In Brazil everyone was gonna get stabbed or shot by people from the favelas. In Russia everyone was gonna get stamped to death by white supremacy football hooligans . Once the tournament starts all worries about the location will be forgotten about and the media will move on to turning fans against the team for not being good enough. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Never to the dark side Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 1) Iran protesters are stating that England should boycott the game sgainst Iran in support of the protests. Maybe the protesters should ask the IRAN footballers to boycott the game instead. 2)All visitors are expected to have a covid pass on their phones,to make sure they(the visitors) are at any one time 3) FIFA have not sanctioned the one love badge on the England shirt,and may not sanction the wearing of the badge on the football shirt. I see there are approx 1,300 banning orders in the U.K. which prevents followers travelling to Quatar,that means approx 26 banning orders in our area. I bet most of them will be glad they are not allowed to travel to Quatar Edited October 13, 2022 by Never to the dark side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 12/11/2021 at 10:50, Red-Robbo said: Even if you ignored the evil regime, the exploited virtual slave labour building the stadiums and the corruption that landed them the gig, it will be a crap experience. Get drinks only at a hotel bar, strict dress codes, an unfriendly society and weather that even my sun-loving friend who lives in Doha says is unbearable. He says life is just leaving your air-conditioned apartment by lift to your air-conditioned garage then driving your air-conditioned vehicle to your employers' air-conditioned garage under their air-conditioned office. As little time as possible is spent outdoors. Not really the travelling football fans ideal. A few queries (been there twice with work): "Strict dress codes"? Not really, when I went there (twice), t-shirts and shorts were fine. Sure, walking round with your shirt off probably isn't the done thing, but nor is it in many countries "Unfriendly society" - I found the locals (there's very few actual locals) to be pretty pleasant "Weather" - your friend is talking about summer. This will be winter. I've been there twice in winter, perfectly pleasant, warm, yes, but mid-30s and dry heat. Evenings cooler. Quite pleasant. Mind you, the whole regime is unpleasant and the way they treat their migrant workers is appalling. As a side note, the working standards for them makes you realise why the much-criticised "health and safety" culture of this country is a good thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, SecretSam said: A few queries (been there twice with work): "Strict dress codes"? Not really, when I went there (twice), t-shirts and shorts were fine. Sure, walking round with your shirt off probably isn't the done thing, but nor is it in many countries "Unfriendly society" - I found the locals (there's very few actual locals) to be pretty pleasant "Weather" - your friend is talking about summer. This will be winter. I've been there twice in winter, perfectly pleasant, warm, yes, but mid-30s and dry heat. Evenings cooler. Quite pleasant. Mind you, the whole regime is unpleasant and the way they treat their migrant workers is appalling. As a side note, the working standards for them makes you realise why the much-criticised "health and safety" culture of this country is a good thing. PS and it bloody rained one day, too. PPS: did the same in Saudi, pissed it down. I'm cursed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 And if you are going to Qatar, the Museum of Islamic Art in Doha is well worth a visit, stunning building and some amazing exhibits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, SecretSam said: A few queries (been there twice with work): "Strict dress codes"? Not really, when I went there (twice), t-shirts and shorts were fine. Sure, walking round with your shirt off probably isn't the done thing, but nor is it in many countries "Unfriendly society" - I found the locals (there's very few actual locals) to be pretty pleasant "Weather" - your friend is talking about summer. This will be winter. I've been there twice in winter, perfectly pleasant, warm, yes, but mid-30s and dry heat. Evenings cooler. Quite pleasant. Mind you, the whole regime is unpleasant and the way they treat their migrant workers is appalling. As a side note, the working standards for them makes you realise why the much-criticised "health and safety" culture of this country is a good thing. The very fact there is any sort of dress code makes it strict. Think they'll allow female fans to wear shorts around town? I can only go by the word of my mate, who has worked in UAE, Bahrain and Qatar. He found the Bahrainis the friendliest and Qataris the least. He had friends among the expat and South Asian community there, but not the Arabs. At any rate, it isn't a football culture, nor one used to josting large numbers of fans from across the world. It is a farce it was ever considered, let alone granted the gig. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 There a lot of regular travelling fans I know that are not going mainly due to costs. The 10 day package that takes on the 3 group games was 3k so seems like to best deal going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, SecretSam said: PS and it bloody rained one day, too. PPS: did the same in Saudi, pissed it down. I'm cursed. Funny that. Many years ago I was flying Dammam to Doha and en route to the airport my driver highlighted the many abandoned vehicles that had crashed off the road following an overnight downpour that had occured hours earlier. He explained that as such deluges were infrequent and roads so slick, many drivers didn't know how to drive in the wet. Some drivers would leave cars abandoned and buy replacements, apparently there was a trade in such opportunity. Problem was we prepared to land in Doha just as a monsoon strength deluge broke. But a few feet from the tarmac we heard the klaxons sound, entered a nigh-on vertical climb and went into an emergency go-around, though not before I noticed from my window the heads of several unfortunate and drenched lackeys who were attempting (with little success,) to sweep water off the runway with brooms. As you say, H&S and water management aren't the best in the Middle East. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: The very fact there is any sort of dress code makes it strict. Think they'll allow female fans to wear shorts around town? I can only go by the word of my mate, who has worked in UAE, Bahrain and Qatar. He found the Bahrainis the friendliest and Qataris the least. He had friends among the expat and South Asian community there, but not the Arabs. At any rate, it isn't a football culture, nor one used to josting large numbers of fans from across the world. It is a farce it was ever considered, let alone granted the gig. Football doesn't negate the decency of respecting others cultures but I agree Qatar should not be hosting the World Cup. We shouldn't however impose western values on an arabic long, proud & influential culture. I travelled extensively throughout the Middle East, was considerate of its culture even where it didn't concur with my own values and never had a problem other than once inadvertently sitting in a women's area in a cafe in Jeddah (not there was any obvious way to identify,) where having highlighted my error the locals watered and fed me with a smile and for gratis. You use the term 'strict', so what say we flip cultural norms to see whether you consider us to be as strict as they? I was once travelling in a cab in Bahrain, fancy top-of-the-range Merc, not some backstreet mini cab. Chauffeur smartly dressed in crystal white dishdasha, butterfly style shumagh, classy. A slight delay at a set of lights and he gets out the car, hoicks up his thwab and proceeds to curl one out in the road. Nobody (save me) batted an eyelid. He climbed back in and life continued. Do you reckon he'd think us strict for not allowing him to do likewise here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) On 21/09/2022 at 17:57, sticks 1969 said: Every major tournament your going to get shot your going to get mugged No hotels bla bla bla bla bullshit every time Bristol City lads have been there before for a game v Brazil and? Drank in a gated complex for tourists. Drinking alcohol was restricted and it is exceptionally expensive. Years later. Drinking alcohol is stiil restricted and it is exceptionally expensive. It will be unlike any other tournament. Edited October 13, 2022 by Cowshed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: 2)All visitors are expected to have a covid pass on their phones,to make sure they(the visitors) are at any one time Any country still insisting on a covid pass is living in their own strange reality, and quite frankly, in a clown world. Even more reason to not go, for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: The very fact there is any sort of dress code makes it strict. Think they'll allow female fans to wear shorts around town? I can only go by the word of my mate, who has worked in UAE, Bahrain and Qatar. He found the Bahrainis the friendliest and Qataris the least. He had friends among the expat and South Asian community there, but not the Arabs. At any rate, it isn't a football culture, nor one used to josting large numbers of fans from across the world. It is a farce it was ever considered, let alone granted the gig. There's a dress code in lots of places. You can't go into St Peter's Square with uncovered arms and legs, for example (IIRC). Similarly, women topless on general beaches here is forbidden. That's a dress code. Whether the local authorities in Qatar relax some rules during the World Cup remains to be seen. The drunkeness rule is going to be a problem, and I'm told Qatari jails are not pleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Bristol City lads have been there before for a game v Brazil and? Drank in a gated complex for tourists. Drinking alcohol was restricted and it is exceptionally expensive. Years later. Drinking alcohol is stiil restricted and it is exceptionally expensive. It will be unlike any other tournament. I don't know current prices, but back in the day it was (say) double London prices. I understand in many Scandi countries, alcohol is very pricey. End of the day, it's their country, if they have rules you don't like...don't go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, BTRFTG said: Football doesn't negate the decency of respecting others cultures but I agree Qatar should not be hosting the World Cup. We shouldn't however impose western values on an arabic long, proud & influential culture. I travelled extensively throughout the Middle East, was considerate of its culture even where it didn't concur with my own values and never had a problem other than once inadvertently sitting in a women's area in a cafe in Jeddah (not there was any obvious way to identify,) where having highlighted my error the locals watered and fed me with a smile and for gratis. You use the term 'strict', so what say we flip cultural norms to see whether you consider us to be as strict as they? I was once travelling in a cab in Bahrain, fancy top-of-the-range Merc, not some backstreet mini cab. Chauffeur smartly dressed in crystal white dishdasha, butterfly style shumagh, classy. A slight delay at a set of lights and he gets out the car, hoicks up his thwab and proceeds to curl one out in the road. Nobody (save me) batted an eyelid. He climbed back in and life continued. Do you reckon he'd think us strict for not allowing him to do likewise here? :laugh: getting an Uber back to the airport in Riyadh during a massive downpour (including lightning) was...an experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sticks 1969 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Never to the dark side said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ Edited October 22, 2022 by sticks 1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/england-fans-pass-up-world-cup-tickets-over-qatar-travel-concerns-5mhw8hn0l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 https://theathletic.com/3724164/2022/10/24/sergei-palkin-fifa-iran-ukraine-world-cup/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Are there many on here going out for the tournament? spoke to a lad at the Millwall game who is doing 30 days glad when it has started and all the hype dies down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eddie Hitler Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 21/09/2022 at 18:38, Winterstoke toad said: It’s all click bait for media companies In South Africa everyone was gonna get kidnapped for ransom . In Brazil everyone was gonna get stabbed or shot by people from the favelas. In Russia everyone was gonna get stamped to death by white supremacy football hooligans . Once the tournament starts all worries about the location will be forgotten about and the media will move on to turning fans against the team for not being good enough. Ah, but remember the cautionary tale of Swiss football fan Rolf Bantle. Football fan slept rough for 10 years after getting lost going to the toilet at San Siro https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/fan-homeless-milan-lost-toilet-27394830 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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