Nige is back!

[Sleepy1968]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Nige talks about competition for places being good, which is true….but it’s also good to have your best players available (or at least who Nige thinks are his best players).  I see that starting to happen if all 3 CBs are fit (even if that means Baker at LB), plus Williams.  Although I’m not sold on Semenyo being a £10m player I do think he’s a capable Champ player, plus he brings physicality, power and pace, plus the ability to go past a player.

If I look back to earlier this season, Pring, Nagy (transfer request), Bakinson, and Massengo (just returning from injury), we’re even getting kitted up.  Williams, Kalas we’re on the bench.  We need to get back to that strong match day 18.  This break has helped that.  Fingers crossed.

Defenders hate players that are willing to run at/past them. He'll at least keep the opposition on their toes. Oh sh1t, I'm begining to look forward to the weekend.

[Tomo]

 

[Super]

2 hours ago, Wiltshire robin said:

There’s so many pricks still posting beer emojis under his welcome back posts . If he does have a drinking issue it’s personal and shouldn’t have the piss take out of him 

The FB page is full of it. Needs shutting down.

[petehinton]

Listening to Pearson’s presser it sounds like whatever illness he has/had is serious.
 

“First morning back in after getting some positive news, so I’m relieved”

[Pezo]

1 hour ago, Desso said:

Don't know if I'm the only one but I find difficult to believe that he can motivate anyone with his monotone, hesitant way of talking. I find myself drifting off and thinking about something else during his interviews. I wish he was more dynamic and invigorating, but I guess that's just his style. Hope he's different in the dressing room.

I think his son said his interview style is pretty much completely opposite to how he normally speaks - thousands of miles an hour with real excitement apparently.

[Davefevs]

@Tomogood to see them putting up the full media interviews again. 

[Pezo]

17 minutes ago, Tomo said:

 

Fighting talk - some players aren't onboard and he will do everything he can to get rid of them.

[Davefevs]

Just now, Pezo said:

I think his son said his interview style is pretty much completely opposite to how he normally speaks - thousands of miles an hour with real excitement apparently.

Ask @redsquirrelwhat he’s like in “real life”. Think he’s agree with you. 

[One Team]

43 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Wells, and some others.

Palmer you would think and others not in the squad. 

I was hoping he meant O’Dowda as well but given he’s contributed to the press conference you would assume not.

[Pezo]

It might be easier to say who it's not:

Bentley, Kalas, Baker, Atkinson, James, Scott, Tanner, Weiman, Massengo, Pring, Simpson, King.

We should be pretty sure they all want to be here based on when they signed and what we see them do.

[Simon bristol]

14 minutes ago, One Team said:

Palmer you would think and others not in the squad. 

I was hoping he meant O’Dowda as well but given he’s contributed to the press conference you would assume not.

I reckon cod is probably the sort of personable young fellow who youd like your daughter to bring home, like taylor moore, and is positive and good to have around,,, its just that he never does anything on the pitch apart from approx 1 assist and 1 goal per season

[exAtyeoMax]

1 hour ago, maxjak said:

The quote on the BBC Football website from Nige is intriguing?..................."Certain individuals are not on side, and I will do everything I can to get rid of them"  So It would seem that there are still a few bad apples in the squad, who need to be jettisoned?

[One Team]

9 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

I reckon cod is probably the sort of personable young fellow who youd like your daughter to bring home, like taylor moore, and is positive and good to have around,,, its just that he never does anything on the pitch apart from approx 1 assist and 1 goal per season

Completely agree, he seems a lovely lad and probably a decent human (maybe why he got the job) but he’s not a Championship footballer. 

 

[Jerseybean]

Totally delighted that he’s back and well enough to resume his role. Loved the ‘some players are not on-side and I will do everything I can to get rid of them’ line. 

NP is the future and I have complete confidence in him turning this situation around. 

Welcome back Nigel. 

[mozo]

That was a really frank and much less evasive interview. I liked it.

Did he say Weimann is out? Sounds like Semenyo and Williams will start. 

[Lew-T]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

 

Wowza… Shots fired here.

”To those players who aren’t on board, I will do everything I can to get rid of them. They won’t be here”

The chap replied along the lines of “Do you know who those players are yet?”

Nige replies quickly with a “yes”.

 

[Gillies Downs Leeds]

2 minutes ago, mozo said:

That was a really frank and much less evasive interview. I liked it.

Did he say Weimann is out? Sounds like Semenyo and Williams will start. 

Didn't mention Weimann I don't think. Tanner is out, can see Kalas playing right back on Saturday with Atkinson & Baker central.

[Lew-T]

1 minute ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

Didn't mention Weimann I don't think. Tanner is out, can see Kalas playing right back on Saturday with Atkinson & Baker central.

He said both Andi and Matty are out for this week.

[Northern Red]

Just now, Lew-T said:

He said both Andi and Matty are out for this week.

Andy King.

[Jerseybean]

Based on the presser we won’t see James, King or Tanner but Williams, Kalas, Baker, Semyeno Conway and Atkinson are back in the reckoning.

 

 

 

[Davefevs]

38 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Thought both goals were largely down to O'Dowda against Coventry. And should have had another penalty and player sent off earlier in the game.

Agree in main….not “largely” for second goal…that’s stretching it a bit

What did you make of his interview?  I thought it was decent, spoke well…until James Piercy asked him the “do the players care” question.  Where he went off on a bit of a ramble, looked uncomfortable and started nose-scratching?

[SBB]

16 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Wowza… Shots fired here.

”To those players who aren’t on board, I will do everything I can to get rid of them. They won’t be here”

The chap replied along the lines of “Do you know who those players are yet?”

Nige replies quickly with a “yes”.

 

Has he repeated the point in another interview? This is what was said in this particular one.

NP “Certain individuals aren’t on side let’s put it like that and I’ll do everything I can to get rid of them”

Journo “if that’s looking at January, would experience be one of the key recruitment aspects you’re looking to add?”

NP “Too early to give you an absolute answer on that”

[GrahamC]

55 minutes ago, Pezo said:

It might be easier to say who it's not:

Bentley, Kalas, Baker, Atkinson, James, Scott, Tanner, Weiman, Massengo, Pring, Simpson, King.

We should be pretty sure they all want to be here based on when they signed and what we see them do.

Think you’re right, I’d be surprised if Martin (who he has picked for every game) & O’Leary aren’t on that list, too.

However he also said he still might have to use those players he wants rid of depending on circumstances, so not as easy to draw conclusions on others unless they disappear from selection completely.

[Lew-T]

20 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Andy King.

Ah!

Of course.

[Lew-T]

6 minutes ago, SBB said:

Has he repeated the point in another interview? This is what was said in this particular one.

NP “Certain individuals aren’t on side let’s put it like that and I’ll do everything I can to get rid of them”

Journo “if that’s looking at January, would experience be one of the key recruitment aspects you’re looking to add?”

NP “Too early to give you an absolute answer on that”

Yes, what you’ve quoted there is in the video above. As is the comment I posted above

[spudski]

I get the impression some players have been told that aren't good enough, or haven't been able to get up to speed so to speak and realise the enivitable. Have downed tools and are now just going through the motions.

He's now left with a smaller pond to dip into. And some are injured.

It's now very black and white imo.

We have players NP doesn't want/ trust even after giving them a chance.

Has been left with smaller options to pick from...some injured, and others wanting it, like some of the youngsters, but they haven't got the experience or talent to put in consistent championship games week in, week out.

January will be tough imo. I think that will be the tipping point to our season.

If we don't sell, don't recruit as wanted, continue to have injuries to key players in NP plans, then we are screwed.

If you've got the likes of Palmer on the suggested wages he's on, not making an impact, then that's a massive blow.

[Pezo]

2 minutes ago, spudski said:

I get the impression some players have been told that aren't good enough, or haven't been able to get up to speed so to speak and realise the enivitable. Have downed tools and are now just going through the motions.

He's now left with a smaller pond to dip into. And some are injured.

It's now very black and white imo.

We have players NP doesn't want/ trust even after giving them a chance.

Has been left with smaller options to pick from...some injured, and others wanting it, like some of the youngsters, but they haven't got the experience or talent to put in consistent championship games week in, week out.

January will be tough imo. I think that will be the tipping point to our season.

If we don't sell, don't recruit as wanted, continue to have injuries to key players in NP plans, then we are screwed.

If you've got the likes of Palmer on the suggested wages he's on, not making an impact, then that's a massive blow.

It sounded different at the end of the interview with the word endulge used.

Sounds like a combination of some players think they are bigger than the club (Wells maybe) and some players want special treatment (Palmer maybe).

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

He made the run and chested the ball down in an area we struggled to get the ball into all 2nd half so was very important imo. Or maybe I should have said played a big part in that goal.

ta.

Otherwise he barely did a thing 2nd half, like Weimann and Martin other than that goal they all did well on. Too far apart and we don't move the ball from side to side well enough of quick enough to have got the best out of the 2 wingers in that 2nd half.

In the interview was that the bit about players he will get rid of?

no, Callum’s video interview today, not Nige’s.

He's probably on about O'Dowda and Palmer. Possibly Wells.

Not sure who else it could be as he plays most of the others.

Hope he doesn't mean Bakinson as he's worked well off the ball recently.

 

[Davefevs]

10 minutes ago, spudski said:

I get the impression some players have been told that aren't good enough, or haven't been able to get up to speed so to speak and realise the enivitable. Have downed tools and are now just going through the motions.

He's now left with a smaller pond to dip into. And some are injured.

It's now very black and white imo.

We have players NP doesn't want/ trust even after giving them a chance.

Has been left with smaller options to pick from...some injured, and others wanting it, like some of the youngsters, but they haven't got the experience or talent to put in consistent championship games week in, week out.

January will be tough imo. I think that will be the tipping point to our season.

If we don't sell, don't recruit as wanted, continue to have injuries to key players in NP plans, then we are screwed.

If you've got the likes of Palmer on the suggested wages he's on, not making an impact, then that's a massive blow.

As Aerosmith sang - one bad apple spoils a whole damn bunch.

Won’t be easy to move on the players we think aren’t on the bus, e.g. someone like Palmer.  Loan?  If only to reduce wage bill in part?

[Red Army 75]

Enjoyed the full interview. Get um gone Nige. Wrong uns 

[Kid in the Riot]

3 hours ago, Desso said:

Don't know if I'm the only one but I find difficult to believe that he can motivate anyone with his monotone, hesitant way of talking. I find myself drifting off and thinking about something else during his interviews. I wish he was more dynamic and invigorating, but I guess that's just his style. Hope he's different in the dressing room.

Footage here from 1m 20 onwards of him in the dressing room at Watford. Even though it's only a short clip, it's clear to see he is a very different character in the dressing room:

 

[Davefevs]

Just now, billywedlock said:

Agree , and it was plural, so it is not just Palmer. Vyner ? JD ? COD ? Until recently I would have added Wells too. Maybe January will be a loan then commitment to buy situation to move expenditure into another window. Almost certain we will have some new faces in January and are probably well down the line with discussions. That was quite an aggressive statement from NP. 

Personally I’d be surprised if  COD is a bad apple / wasn’t on Nige’s bus.  If he is, putting him up for interview today is “interesting” to say the least.

[SBB]

14 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Yes, what you’ve quoted there is in the video above. As is the comment I posted above

Got you. I somehow missed when it was brought up again and his reply

[Kid in the Riot]

I'm surprised people keep mentioning Wells. Since he's come back from injury he's started pretty much every game, looks decent and is clearly busting a gut. 

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Agree , but he was not impressed when he came on against Forrest . But who else is there ? Though Palmers wages = 2 senior players within the current climate . He will not be pleased with Vyner getting done twice in the same way either. 

Guess there’s also a difference to “not being on the bus” and not fitting what Nige wants, or being good enough for what Nige wants.

With hopefully a slightly larger squad now fit and available we will start to see which players who Nige doesn't want around.

I think we have try to read between the lines when Nige has praised players…he rarely if ever is critical of a player to the media.  You can’t do that in a small squad, because you might need them.

[Street red]

It's seems Nigel has come back on fire No messing around and my feelings after the Coventry game has been answered by Nigel get those players out and it seems he will do anything to force it. No more cozy cozy at our football club music to my ears.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

I'm surprised people keep mentioning Wells. Since he's come back from injury he's started pretty much every game, looks decent and is clearly busting a gut. 

Sorry Kid but if Wells looks decent we are in big trouble, he looks well out of touch to me.

I can almost guarantee that if he plays Saturday he will give away free kicks unnecessarily, fail to control the simplest of passes, and blaze a decent chance over the bar.

 

I’d like to add a disclaimer that I truly hope he bags a hat trick on Saturday.

[Rossi the Robin]

Has he told these players individually or does he keep them guessing how he feels, so they still may try and perform? 
As he says still may need them 

[spudski]

27 minutes ago, Pezo said:

It sounded different at the end of the interview with the word endulge used.

Sounds like a combination of some players think they are bigger than the club (Wells maybe) and some players want special treatment (Palmer maybe).

 

23 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Agree , and it was plural, so it is not just Palmer. Vyner ? JD ? COD ? Until recently I would have added Wells too. Maybe January will be a loan then commitment to buy situation to move expenditure into another window. Almost certain we will have some new faces in January and are probably well down the line with discussions. That was quite an aggressive statement from NP. 

 

23 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

As Aerosmith sang - one bad apple spoils a whole damn bunch.

Won’t be easy to move on the players we think aren’t on the bus, e.g. someone like Palmer.  Loan?  If only to reduce wage bill in part?

I watch his interviews and it looks so controlled and thought through. He is literally biting his tongue, making sure he isn't saying what he really wants to say, for fear of repercussions.

It's a mix of some fans get it, but a majority don't, but it's not their fault because they don't know the real truth in what he's dealing with. And judge on only what they hear.

What a nightmare for any manager.

Even when they leave they often can't say anything down to ' gag orders'.

I look and think wtf...why get emotionally involved in something you'll never know the truth about.

It's so superficial, yet so financially and emotionally involved, for everyone concerned, both sides of the fence.

When you look at it from afar, it's all a bit mad.

Fan gets emotionally and financially attached to a club that he knows probably 10% about...nuts really.

NP and SoD are two managers that look away from the interviewer and scream ,' If only you knew the truth' indirectly to the listener.

[MC RISK77]

That is one hell of a turnaround last Wednesday all the ITK were telling us the press had been called as he was leaving!!

[054123]

The boring Lansdown model has us due for a stint in Div 3 anyway, **** it, let’s really enjoy this version of the implosion and go down swinging.

Hit somebody Nige, anybody!

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

I'm surprised people keep mentioning Wells. Since he's come back from injury he's started pretty much every game, looks decent and is clearly busting a gut. 

I noticed in the last two matches that NW had got into good positions in the box but didn’t attack the ball as if he really wanted it. Robbie Turner he isn’t.

 

[Bodiesaffer]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Personally I’d be surprised if  COD is a bad apple / wasn’t on Nige’s bus.  If he is, putting him up for interview today is “interesting” to say the least.

He looked uncomfortable, eyes everywhere. 

[redsquirrel]

2 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Totally delighted that he’s back and well enough to resume his role. Loved the ‘some players are not on-side and I will do everything I can to get rid of them’ line. 

NP is the future and I have complete confidence in him turning this situation around. 

Welcome back Nigel. 

absolutely this and im buzzing cus it means i might bump into him again.great bloke to talk to

[GlastonburyRed]

4 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

What players say ( past ) is that he is extremely straight with them. So they know what they need to do . Might hurt but it’s clear .  SC was also like that according to a few players I spoke to . And it was welcomed . Taylor Moore said exactly that . He praised NP for being honest with him as it meant he knew where he stood and helped him realise he needed a change of direction .

It has been clear for a few years we had the proverbial good team on paper but not on the pitch . You cannot change it all over night and we are struggling with money . But the change is happening . Patience and understanding  is needed . We will be a very different team next year . Imho 
 

 

I feel like if we can sneak out of relegation this season, then we might actually see some real progress next season. Don't want to be writing off this season as early as November, but the points deductions might have come at just the right time for us. Getting rid of some of the (highly paid) passengers is exactly what is needed. Cov was a real 'downed tools' effort in my opinion (exacerbated by a small & consequently fatigued squad), and we certainly do not have the luxury of being able to turn down points that look as if they might be in the bag. Pre-season, mid-table was a success in my mind, but anything above 22nd is now looking like a 'result', seems as if the rot is incredibly deep set.

[Loosey Boy]

4 hours ago, CyderInACan said:

A damning sentence if ever there was. 

Agreed - sounds like January will see some ins and outs…..wonder who he is referencing here though?

[Lew-T]

Just a hunch but I gotta feeling JD is one that Nige is talking about. Palmer an obvious shout of course too…

[Hampshire reds]

its a worrying situation about players he wants rid off. we have a small squad. if these players know they are on there way out what effort are they going to put in if called into the team. i wonder who he is talking about. Maybe Palmer,Simpson Zac.Taylor moore.

[Dullmoan Tone]

14 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Just a hunch but I gotta feeling JD is one that Nige is talking about. Palmer an obvious shout of course too…

Or COD?

[Red Army 75]

23 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said:

its a worrying situation about players he wants rid off. we have a small squad. if these players know they are on there way out what effort are they going to put in if called into the team. i wonder who he is talking about. Maybe Palmer,Simpson Zac.Taylor moore.

Very much doubt it’s Taylor Moore. He always seemed to give 100% for the club. The problem for TM is that NP doesn’t seem to rate him 

23 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said:

Edited November 18, 2021 by Red Army 75

[GrahamC]

8 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

 

Very much doubt it’s Taylor Moore. He always seemed to give 100% for the club. The problem for TM is that NP doesn’t seem to rate him 

Seeing as Moore has been in Edinburgh since August & was told then he had no future at City it clearly is not him now.

[exAtyeoMax]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Guess there’s also a difference to “not being on the bus” and not fitting what Nige wants, or being good enough for what Nige wants.

With hopefully a slightly larger squad now fit and available we will start to see which players who Nige doesn't want around.

I think we have try to read between the lines when Nige has praised players…he rarely if ever is critical of a player to the media.  You can’t do that in a small squad, because you might need them.

He did say that he might have to play them…so could be referring to CoD ?

[sh1t_ref_again]

Obviously Palmer but think possible wells or Dasilva. Think the ones hoping it's Odowda are off the mark

[Northern Red]

I did wonder about DaSilva.

[Hampshire reds]

sounds like a split dressing room. not good when you have a small squad, injuries and results are going against you. Alarm bells must be ringing with the board.

[Simon bristol]

1 minute ago, Hampshire reds said:

sounds like a split dressing room. not good when you have a small squad, injuries and results are going against you. Alarm bells must be ringing with the board.

It must be galling for the owner seeing some of this lot not getting game time, or contributing practically nothing when they do, knowing how much they are getting paid.

[Kid in the Riot]

2 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said:

sounds like a split dressing room. not good when you have a small squad, injuries and results are going against you. Alarm bells must be ringing with the board.

It doesn't sound like a split dressing room at all. It sounds like there are a couple of players that don't want to be at Bristol City, for whatever reason, and that as a result they will be moved on at the earliest opportunity. 

[Sleepy1968]

2 hours ago, spudski said:

NP and SoD are two managers that look away from the interviewer and scream ,' If only you knew the truth' indirectly to the listener.

I've always thought his little laugh is a tell. You know "I've just ran through the real answer in my head, and I can't even begin to give that version to you. Here's the diplomatic version ..."

[Rich]

13 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

It doesn't sound like a split dressing room at all. It sounds like there are a couple of players that don't want to be at Bristol City, for whatever reason, and that as a result they will be moved on at the earliest opportunity. 

H R puts a negative angle on virtually every post. He just likes to keep the Nige out rhetoric to the forefront of any debate.

[Rich]

20 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said:

sounds like a split dressing room. not good when you have a small squad, injuries and results are going against you. Alarm bells must be ringing with the board.

I believe he stated that there were a couple that didn't want to be here and, he'd get them out. If that turned out to be three, it's hardly a split dressing room within a squad of twenty something. Splinter perhaps, not a split. Split would in my eyes be large proportion, as in a split decision, given your posting history, just something you'd like to portray.

[One Team]

Brilliant press conference he couldn’t have been any clearer. 

Clearly a few players need to go and will go he was very clear about that. 

We need to give him the next window and our support and see what happens. 

[Hampshire reds]

Rich. have you been in a team sport. it only takes a couple to upset a dressing room. what my previous post has to do with it i do not know. you might have put crap on here but rest assured i am not wasting my time looking. 

[BUTOR]

40 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

It doesn't sound like a split dressing room at all. It sounds like there are a couple of players that don't want to be at Bristol City, for whatever reason, and that as a result they will be moved on at the earliest opportunity. 

Maybe a small clique though. One is quite obviously Palmer, he is close with JD and a of couple others who could fit the description of being off the AG1

Edited November 18, 2021 by Bouncearoundtheground

[Rich]

Putting my pennyworth in. I'd say the obvious ones are Palmer, hardly selected and disgruntled. Wells, totally lacking in any attempt at a challenge for possession and left on the sidelines too often. Often been stated by others and I'd agree, that he doesn't look like he wants to be here. And finally Jay Dasilva, not being selected regularly, especially as he's now fit. Too small to be a NP type of player, especially in his favoured defensive position.

In my opinion, players without the required attitudes/attributes demanded by NP.

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

There’s a lot of speculation about ‘bad apples’ here, but what I do know is that there are players who don’t like Pearson or his methods, some of which are, shall we say, ‘robust’.  Pearson certainly seems to demand total obedience.  Some supporters would no doubt feel that that vindicates Pearson, but what I’ve heard suggests there are two sides to this.

[Rich]

6 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said:

Rich. have you been in a team sport. it only takes a couple to upset a dressing room. what my previous post has to do with it i do not know. you might have put crap on here but rest assured i am not wasting my time looking. 

Many a team sport, thanks for asking.

I believe if there are those couple you've referred to, that's why they're being removed. I believe your post was trying to make more of it by claiming a "split" dressing room, rather than a couple of players not happy.

If I've ever posted crap on here in the past, it's been due to having a few too many, what is your excuse for the constant barrage of negative, anti NP crap posts?

[Mr Chappers]

Oh joy! Still unconvinced by NP, and not sure that he’s the right guy for the job, purely based on what I have seen this season, home & away.

[redsquirrel]

6 minutes ago, Mr Chappers said:

Oh joy! Still unconvinced by NP, and not sure that he’s the right guy for the job, purely based on what I have seen this season, home & away.

nail on head there. i dont think he is the guy  for the job, AS IT WAS. i think he is here to get rid of the 'cushy play for bristol city job'  and is going to build a bust your gut for bristol city job' hopefully getting us challenging for promotion in the not to distant future. change was required,change has been made, now needs the time to implement it

[RedRock]

Welcome back Nige. Hope you are feeling better. 

Now then.

Can you put out a set of players that has some semblance of playing like a team on Saturday rather than a bunch of strangers picked up from the water tower on the Downs please?

We can address the fact that they have a similar level of football intelligence of Downs League players at some later date. 

Thanks. 

 

ps I know it's not your fault that Ashton purchased a load of dysfunctional players but I was rather hoping we might see some slight improvement in teamwork this season. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by RedRock

[Hampshire reds]

saying it how i see it. thats what a forum is. more and more are beginning to think the same about nigel. he needs results and performances to shut me and many more who think the same as me up. if you are happy with what is happening then thats fine.