old_eastender Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, TomF said: Well that first half gives us something to build on, plus we didn’t lose.. Yes indeed. It's shame Scott can only ever seem to manage 60 mins before being done-in. We missed his interplay even before he was subbed. Williams our Man of the Match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Loderingo said: Better than losing at least Yep, just gutting it’s becoming a regular occurrence now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Malago said: The fact we finished the game on the front foot instead of hanging on, is a big plus for me. Not the ideal result, but much, much better. Did we actually? I wasn't there today but if so that is a plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Would have taken that before the match. We have played worse this year and come away with a win. Much better than some efforts recently, long way from ‘good’ but in isolation, encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Back three cost us that game tbh. Panic defending set in from minute 46. They set the tone by literally clearing the ball anywhere and it just kept coming back. All the composure shown in the first half went missing. As for the keeper, try coming off your line now and again and perhaps catching the odd cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 It’s a measure of how dreadful we’ve been lately that I’m somehow mildly relieved we got a point at home despite leading for much of the game. No idea what Kalas was playing at attempting a diving header clearance when he should have just put his instep through it and twatted it into the top deck of the Lansdown. And what was that Brereton-Diaz tit doing goading the South Stand? I hope he gets a serious dose of the runs on the coach back up the road and all the service stations on the M6 are shut! All in all a great deal better today but we still cannot defend a lead for toffee and we are infuriatingly content for teams to boss possession at the Gate for long periods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizyer Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Still not good enough though. We really are an awful watch A bit harsh Andy.....not fantastic but not awful today particularly in the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Bizyer said: A bit harsh Andy.....not fantastic but not awful today particularly in the first half. Better then it has been. But that isn’t much of an achievement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I have a sneaking suspicion we may not achieve promotion this year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) A draw with Vyner Bakinson O'Dowda Scott and Benarous in the starting line up + not throwing it all away in injury time = positives, irrespective of the overall spectacle. At a time when positives are in short supply, that's a positive! Edited November 20, 2021 by Merrick's Marvels 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 What a great first half stuffed them so much they hadn't even had a shot and we looked to be playing fast attacking football. I'm ******* disgusted we came out for the second half sitting back and welcoming pressure, the only reason we didn't lose was Blackburn also being happy with a draw. ******* cowards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: I have a sneaking suspicion we may not achieve promotion this year And this is why I don't post half as much on here.....such negativity. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 That's better than having your ass fingered by 10 men to the tune of 3 goals (that's a scar), that's better at least I can sit comfortably today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Lorenzos Only Goal said: That's better than having your ass fingered by 10 men to the tune of 3 goals (that's a scar), that's better at least I can sit comfortably today. Sorry to hear you were just released from prison, my uncle suffered the same issue. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Back three cost us that game tbh. Panic defending set in from minute 46. They set the tone by literally clearing the ball anywhere and it just kept coming back. All the composure shown in the first half went missing. As for the keeper, try coming off your line now and again and perhaps catching the odd cross. Defensive mindset does appear to be that the only job is to win the first ball, where it goes, whether under pressure or not, often doesn’t seem to occur as also being critical. That said, overall, a fair few encouraging signs to build on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: What a great first half stuffed them so much they hadn't even had a shot and we looked to be playing fast attacking football. I'm ******* disgusted we came out for the second half sitting back and welcoming pressure, the only reason we didn't lose was Blackburn also being happy with a draw. ******* cowards It wasn’t a deliberate ploy to sit back. Vyner, Kalas and Baker panicked for 45 minutes and ****** the whole game up for us. They ruined a midfield that was functioning first half by banging the ball straight back to Blackburn time and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Still not good enough though. We really are an awful watch On their forum; "Nothing result and drab performance against a lowly team. Not good enough but Tony will be happy. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: It wasn’t a deliberate ploy to sit back. Vyner, Kalas and Baker panicked for 45 minutes and ****** the whole game up for us. They ruined a midfield that was functioning first half by banging the ball straight back to Blackburn time and again. I wasn't there but maybe the midfield were hiding, or Blackburn pressing better, and the defence didn't have options other than clearing long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: I wasn't there but maybe the midfield were hiding, or Blackburn pressing better, and the defence didn't have options other than clearing long? No. I was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Amazed to see so much negativety after that. Certainly an improvement on the games pre international break. Not spectacular, but we were okay. Obviously a shame we didn't see the game out for a win, but play like that every week and we won't have to worry about relegation IMO. 1-1 draw with the team in 7th isn't a bad result at all. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: It wasn’t a deliberate ploy to sit back. Vyner, Kalas and Baker panicked for 45 minutes and ****** the whole game up for us. They ruined a midfield that was functioning first half by banging the ball straight back to Blackburn time and again. It seemed it to me. You automatically saw the wing backs sit alot deeper and there was no desire to bomb forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: Amazed to see so much negativety after that. Certainly an improvement on the games pre international break. Not spectacular, but we were okay. Obviously a shame we didn't see the game out for a win, but play like that every week and we won't have to worry about relegation IMO. 1-1 draw with the team in 7th isn't a bad result at all. People are just tired of seeing us throw away points from winning positions. I think it was a good performance too but you can’t begrudge people feeling down in the dumps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, BasSavage88 said: It seemed it to me. You automatically saw the wing backs sit alot deeper and there was no desire to bomb forward They had to sit deeper as the back three kept crashing it downfield to Blackburn players and it kept coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: No. I was there. Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, pl00peh91 said: People are just tired of seeing us throw away points from winning positions. I think it was a good performance too but you can’t begrudge people feeling down in the dumps. I think we have to accept that we are a long way from the finished article. Yes, we ‘threw away a lead’ but this was an improvement on a capitulation v Coventry. Overall, if we play like this for the rest of the season we will win as many as we lose and be able to improve next year as NP develops his squad. I enjoyed the game and it was a shame that one, another ! , piece of bad luck saw them equalise. I posted on here that I wasn’t completely with Largish Nige when he said that the result was the main thing. I wanted to see a coherent, committed performance first and foremost and I had that. I am happy enough this evening. Well done lads , keep it up. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 In short, we faded. But two weeks ago we would have lost that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 That was a really solid performance. Excellent first half. Up and down in the second. Young players did themselves proud and Williams was top class. One defensive error screwed it up and maybe Weimann scuffed a golden chance first half. Almost genius from Nige. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Better overall but Blackburn were there for the taking Fingers crossed we put in a similar effort on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I enjoyed the positives of the first half, so good seeing us have pace and energy in the middle, We tired in the second half as young players do added to Blackburn changing to a 5 in the middle and it was a fair result, a lot of positive to take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I think we have to accept that we are a long way from the finished article. Yes, we ‘threw away a lead’ but this was an improvement on a capitulation v Coventry. Overall, if we play like this for the rest of the season we will win as many as we lose and be able to improve next year as NP develops his squad. I enjoyed the game and it was a shame that one, another ! , piece of bad luck saw them equalise. I posted on here that I wasn’t completely with Largish Nige when he said that the result was the main thing. I wanted to see a coherent, committed performance first and foremost and I had that. I am happy enough this evening. Well done lads , keep it up. Absolutely. City are a team on downward trajectory who have been very poor especially at home. Today we played a team who started the day 7th. You really aren’t anything special if you managed to ‘find’ faults in todays performance. The truth is the positives far outweighed the negatives and that’s all you can hope for right now. But for one silly, silly mistake by Kalas that is a pretty comfortable home win. As it is it was a solid draw in which we passed the ball well, were aggressive and actually looked like a team at this level. Whats not to be happy about? Edited November 20, 2021 by 054123 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BasSavage88 said: What a great first half stuffed them so much they hadn't even had a shot and we looked to be playing fast attacking football. I'm ******* disgusted we came out for the second half sitting back and welcoming pressure, the only reason we didn't lose was Blackburn also being happy with a draw. ******* cowards Only reason we didn’t win was a superb save from Wells’ header. A bit of balance wouldn’t go amiss, Bas… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, David Brent said: Better overall but Blackburn were there for the taking Fingers crossed we put in a similar effort on Wednesday. A team full of confidence would have put the game to bed first half but we have to accept we're not even close to that currently and did our best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BasSavage88 said: What a great first half stuffed them so much they hadn't even had a shot and we looked to be playing fast attacking football. I'm ******* disgusted we came out for the second half sitting back and welcoming pressure, the only reason we didn't lose was Blackburn also being happy with a draw. ******* cowards ’******* cowards’ Outstanding post, you sound like my 15 year old son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta_Red Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, RedorDead BCFC said: Ole’s at the wheel of the submarine. 3-1 Watford Emergency board meeting called for this evening. Edited November 20, 2021 by Atlanta_Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Will not be popular to some on here but thought Odowda was excellent today and Bakinson was also very good 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Will not be popular to some on here but thought Odowda was excellent today and Bakinson was also very good Yep, definitely a solid 7/10 for each of them. Consistency has always been the problem with these two but they should both start on Wednesday. Edited November 20, 2021 by mozo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Will not be popular to some on here but thought Odowda was excellent today and Bakinson was also very good He was definitely better same with Bakinson. I think the challenge with both is when the game gets difficult, to make that same energy and enthusiasm displayed when we are on top, is channeled into defensive work rate and commitment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, 054123 said: ’******* cowards’ Outstanding post, you sound like my 15 year old son How was that 2nd half performance not one of cowardice? We reverted to a defensive set up inviting pressure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthS22 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Mixed feelings about that one. Some massive positives - Williams makes us look like a different team and is a driving force from midfield, Bakinson looked good next to him for large parts of the game, and what a player Alex Scott is, even looked good at wingback which can’t be a preferred role for him. Vyner showed what a good player he can be when he cuts out the mistakes and both Kalas and Baker were mostly solid in that back three. Benarous gave us something different, there’s clearly potential there. The major concern for me though is that we only seem to be able to perform for half a game. We were the better side in the first half, but why couldn’t we continue like that in the second? Instead, we did the usual surrendering possession and falling deeper and deeper. Their equaliser was almost inevitable, and it wasn’t just down to one player, it’s a whole team issue. We finished the game string however and that’s progress. If we can just keep the first half levels going for 95 minutes we’ll be in some danger of becoming a decent team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: How was that 2nd half performance not one of cowardice? We reverted to a defensive set up inviting pressure Because of the following: 1) Our energy levels began to drop in our younger players 2) The stamina of Williams is nowhere near there yet, scary to think of him when it does 3) Blackburn began to create overloads on the wings rather than trying to play centrally. A good coach and team who reacted well to our initial set up 4) When they did score we tried to stretch the game again and were on the front foot for the last 15, however see 1. 5) Whilst it was brave to set up with attacking minded players, the challenge today was a few players struggled to let their inner ‘Williams’ out when it got scrappy, it’s not in their nature 6) Our shape meant they created nothing of note all game. Their goal literally came from 1 individual error. 7) I saw more yellow cards, shithousery and aggression than I have in years. My youngest said he couldn’t remember the last yellow card he’d seen. He’s only 7, but his principle was sound. I’m not being awkward I’m just struggling to squeeze ‘cowardice’ in as a reason. Edited November 20, 2021 by 054123 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, SouthS22 said: The major concern for me though is that we only seem to be able to perform for half a game. We were the better side in the first half, but why couldn’t we continue like that in the second? Instead, we did the usual surrendering possession and falling deeper and deeper. Their equaliser was almost inevitable, and it wasn’t just down to one player, it’s a whole team issue. We finished the game string however and that’s progress. If we can just keep the first half levels going for 95 minutes we’ll be in some danger of becoming a decent team. Their equalizer wasn’t inevitable we literally made an individual howler. Outside of that what chance concerned you? As for your major concern, we today set up in a brand new formation of which the three integral parts were 2 youngsters and a chap you had been injured for a year. I don’t think it’s a major concern. It’s about progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malago Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, SouthS22 said: Mixed feelings about that one. Some massive positives - Williams makes us look like a different team and is a driving force from midfield, Bakinson looked good next to him for large parts of the game, and what a player Alex Scott is, even looked good at wingback which can’t be a preferred role for him. Vyner showed what a good player he can be when he cuts out the mistakes and both Kalas and Baker were mostly solid in that back three. Benarous gave us something different, there’s clearly potential there. The major concern for me though is that we only seem to be able to perform for half a game. We were the better side in the first half, but why couldn’t we continue like that in the second? Instead, we did the usual surrendering possession and falling deeper and deeper. Their equaliser was almost inevitable, and it wasn’t just down to one player, it’s a whole team issue. We finished the game string however and that’s progress. If we can just keep the first half levels going for 95 minutes we’ll be in some danger of becoming a decent 11 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: How was that 2nd half performance not one of cowardice? We reverted to a defensive set up inviting pressure I’d like you tell Big Nige to his face that our second half performance was cowardly. No, thought not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, 054123 said: Because of the following: 1) Our energy levels began to drop in our younger players 2) The stamina of Williams is nowhere near there yet, scary to think of him when it does 3) Blackburn began to create overloads on the wings rather than trying to play centrally. A good coach and team who reacted well to our initial set up 4) When they did score we tried to stretch the game again and were on the front foot for the last 15, however see 1. 5) Whilst it was brave to set up with attacking minded players, the challenge today was a few players struggled to let their inner ‘Williams’ out when it got scrappy, it’s not in their nature 6) Our shape meant they created nothing of note all game. Their goal literally came from 1 individual error. 7) I saw more yellow cards, shithousery and aggression than I have in years. My youngest said he couldn’t remember the last yellow card he’d seen. He’s only 7, but his principle was sound. I’m not being awkward I’m just struggling to squeeze ‘cowardice’ in as a reason. I don't buy it, we set up in the 2nd half immediately defensive. The only player that would have an excuse for fading would be Alex Scott after being away with England. 11 minutes ago, Malago said: It's not a ******* play ground you belter I found that 2nd half display cowardly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Will not be popular to some on here but thought Odowda was excellent today and Bakinson was also very good Credit where it’s due O’Dowda had his best game for quite a while. My issue is with 7 assists in 140 odd appearances do we have to wait another 20 matches for some end product? Hopefully this will give him some confidence to kick on and not be another false dawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: I don't buy it, we set up in the 2nd half immediately defensive. The only player that would have an excuse for fading would be Alex Scott after being away with England. It's not a ******* play ground you belter I found that 2nd half display cowardly I’d love to know what football pitch you ever set foot on seeing as you are quite happy to call people cowards. Are you Roy Keane or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: don't buy it, we set up in the 2nd half immediately defensive. The only player that would have an excuse for fading would be Alex Scott after being away with England. That’s fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: I’d love to know what football pitch you ever set foot on seeing as you are quite happy to call people cowards. Are you Roy Keane or something? I'm not calling the players cowardly. You can tell they were told to set up differently from the start of the 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthS22 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, 054123 said: Their equalizer wasn’t inevitable we literally made an individual howler. Outside of that what chance concerned you? As for your major concern, we today set up in a brand new formation of which the three integral parts were 2 youngsters and a chap you had been injured for a year. I don’t think it’s a major concern. It’s about progress. Have you been watching any games this season? It’s a major factor in why we’ve been surrendering so many, especially at home. Start well, play some decent football, then get too passive, retreat further and further back, panic on the ball and start lumping it forward, defence comes under increasing pressure and concedes. if that doesn’t concern you, I’m happy for you. Perhaps you can tell me where to get your rose tinted specs, I could have done with some of those to watch us in the second 45. As I said, there was progress, and when we get James back playing alongside Williams and Bakinson I hope there will be more. Even O’Dowda looked half decent today, so there’s got to be hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, BasSavage88 said: I'm not calling the players cowardly. You can tell they were told to set up differently from the start of the 2nd half. Presumably Nige also told the back three to panic for the next half hour at half time too? We couldn’t play the way we did first half because our back three wouldn’t pass the sodding ball which then means Williams and Bakinson couldn’t get in the positions to start us going forward like the first half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Numero Uno said: Presumably Nige also told the back three to panic for the next half hour at half time too? We couldn’t play the way we did first half because our back three wouldn’t pass the sodding ball which then means Williams and Bakinson couldn’t get in the positions to start us going forward like the first half. Where were they supposed to put it? The midfield completely changed its positioning at half time and were too close to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, BasSavage88 said: Where were they supposed to put it? The midfield completely changed its positioning at half time and were too close to them The midfield had to play deeper because the ball kept coming back at us. First half Williams and Bakinson were taking the ball off the centre halves and started us playing. Second half the three at the back were shitting themselves once Blackburn had that five minute spell at the start of the half and along with our keeper who again a looked low on confidence just kept launching the bloody ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, SouthS22 said: Have you been watching any games this season? It’s a major factor in why we’ve been surrendering so many, especially at home. Start well, play some decent football, then get too passive, retreat further and further back, panic on the ball and start lumping it forward, defence comes under increasing pressure and concedes. if that doesn’t concern you, I’m happy for you. Perhaps you can tell me where to get your rose tinted specs, I could have done with some of those to watch us in the second 45. As I said, there was progress, and when we get James back playing alongside Williams and Bakinson I hope there will be more. Even O’Dowda looked half decent today, so there’s got to be hope. Just all of the home ones and 4 away. Probably not as many as you, I expect No, I didn’t see a last minute collapse or second half capitulation today. Did you See that? I saw problems with our second half, but we’re not a great side so you will see problems in almost every game this year. I didn’t see anything that was a major concern. We finished the stronger side and over 90 minutes displayed more positives than I’ve seen in a long time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: I don't buy it, we set up in the 2nd half immediately defensive. The only player that would have an excuse for fading would be Alex Scott after being away with England. It's not a ******* play ground you belter I found that 2nd half display cowardly Think it's easy for people to forget that there's 2 teams trying to win sometimes. Of course it's disappointing to drop points from winning positions, but it's a relatively common feature of football (granted, we've done it in an unacceptable manner at times this season). It's not embarrassing to draw 1-1 after being 1-0 up at HT. Blackburn are a decent side - at KO they were 7th and we were 18th. It's normal to have periods where you have to defend in games, certainly against teams notably above you in the table. Despite defending a lot in the 2nd half, we still created a very good chance for Wells and were the team pushing to win it at the end. Obviously it would be great to be on the front foot all game, but even the best teams in the league can't do that, and we're a LONG way away from being one of the best in the league. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, SouthS22 said: The major concern for me though is that we only seem to be able to perform for half a game. It’s, perhaps, normal that the tempo dropped in the second half as we had starters coming back from injury and not up to match fitness. We have such an lopsided squad made up of Dad’s Army and Boy Scouts we can’t hope to have the consistency required until that is addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) A much improved performance. In the first half we played some nice stuff and deserved the lead. For the first 30 mins of the second half it was our usually habit of failing to retain possession. The long throw in is becoming a concern - we seem very susceptible to being caught on the break. Positives today: COD and Bakinson both had a decent game. Scott stuck to his task in an unfamiliar role and his set piece delivery was impressive. Vyner looked solid. Williams’ return is a big plus. Benarous looked much better today. We finished the game strongly. Edited November 20, 2021 by Offside 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: our keeper who again a looked low on confidence just kept launching the bloody ball. I think NP wants the ball played forward quickly as we are lacking a bit in quality so ‘our keeper ‘ is just doing what he’s told to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: I think NP wants the ball played forward quickly as we are lacking a bit in quality so ‘our keeper ‘ is just doing what he’s told to do. If that’s the plan why were the same players going short to Williams and Bakinson first half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Tony Mowbray is no mug. He changed system after we scored / Blackburn injury 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, SouthS22 said: Have you been watching any games this season? It’s a major factor in why we’ve been surrendering so many, especially at home. Start well, play some decent football, then get too passive, retreat further and further back, panic on the ball and start lumping it forward, defence comes under increasing pressure and concedes. if that doesn’t concern you, I’m happy for you. Perhaps you can tell me where to get your rose tinted specs, I could have done with some of those to watch us in the second 45. As I said, there was progress, and when we get James back playing alongside Williams and Bakinson I hope there will be more. Even O’Dowda looked half decent today, so there’s got to be hope. How many teams in this league are capable of dominating an opponent for 90 minutes? Or even 60 minutes? Three, probably. City can try to boss the game but it's bloody hard going, especially when the opposition have as good, or even better, players in their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 6 hours ago, RedM said: DaSilva not appearing to be injured as warming up with the rest of the squad right now. So dropped it is. Edit. Now running the touchline by himself and a coach watching, fitness test like It’s quite normal under Nige / Rennie for non playing squad members to do the equivalent fitness work of someone who played….to keep them topped up if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 What was today's attendance, can't find anywhere that shows it. On RB they suggested it looked quite sparse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthS22 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: What was today's attendance, can't find anywhere that shows it. On RB they suggested it looked quite sparse. About 18500 was announced 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthS22 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, mozo said: How many teams in this league are capable of dominating an opponent for 90 minutes? Or even 60 minutes? Three, probably. City can try to boss the game but it's bloody hard going, especially when the opposition have as good, or even better, players in their side. I’m not talking about dominating, just simply retaining the ball for periods of time to break up the opponent’s play and relieve the pressure on our defence. It felt like deja vu again today for most of the second half, and I’ve lost count of how often we’ve retreated in that way after half time. The difference this time was that we did actually manage to respond after they’d scored, which was a big change on the collapses we’ve seen before. Can we say that was down to us and the amount of energy we forced Blackburn to use to get back level? let’s give ourselves the benefit of doubt and say yes and hope that we can be more positive for longer on Weds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWSM Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Did we play long ball today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, MattWSM said: Did we play long ball today Not really. We did get a lot of “crosses” in whether that be from corners, set plays, throw ins and general play. We didn’t lump it as a first choice today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I prefer to look at the positives. We go a reaction today which is a major plus point. We also got a clear indication of the players who are out of favour. I thought Williams, Baker and COD stood out. Vyner was solid. Second half was clearly a team short on confidence although for all of their possession they had just the one shot on target. Substitutions were positive. We have to keep picking up points wherever possible and get to that transfer window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthS22 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Major Isewater said: It’s, perhaps, normal that the tempo dropped in the second half as we had starters coming back from injury and not up to match fitness. We have such an lopsided squad made up of Dad’s Army and Boy Scouts we can’t hope to have the consistency required until that is addressed. The squad is not balanced for sure but I’m not convinced on the coming back from injury argument. We’ve seen the same thing happen many times this season, especially at home, with different members of the squad on the pitch. Perhaps it’s a fitness thing, but given that we’re being told the team is fitter this year than ever, I think more likely it’s more a confidence issue, with likely some bad decision making also in the mix. We would need less energy anyway if we were able to keep better possession because there’s less running needed to chase the ball down. Bakinson, Scott, ODowda, and Williams were a big improvement in the first half, and I think James will make a difference when he’s back, so maybe we can address that better in the not too distant future if we can keep them all injury free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 52 minutes ago, JonDolman said: This was the moment to maybe make it 2-0. Benarous had been playing with confidence, but was maybe too keen to show the crowd what he can do on the ball there. Rather than a simple pass to Bakinson, he turned into 3 players of traffic that became 4 Blackburn players when he had his shot. I liked what I saw from him though. Mostly his defensive work impressed me. Yes, agree and I cursed to all around me at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: This was the moment to maybe make it 2-0. Benarous had been playing with confidence, but was maybe too keen to show the crowd what he can do on the ball there. Rather than a simple pass to Bakinson, he turned into 3 players of traffic that became 4 Blackburn players when he had his shot. I liked what I saw from him though. Mostly his defensive work impressed me. When was the Weimann one at the far post where he lost sight of the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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