Never to the dark side Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 assistant manager of our Wednesday nights opponenents show starts at 6pm on radio bristol Along with City fans Ellie Jones and Lee Pole 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Thanks for the heads up. Should be a really interesting listen. Am I right by saying this will be the first time we heard from him about his time as Coach of Bristol City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Thanks for the heads up. Should be a really interesting listen. Am I right by saying this will be the first time we heard from him about his time as Coach of Bristol City. I believe so , rumour was he was really hurt by the sacking which I guess makes sense as he looked so proud when he took over . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Thanks for the heads up. Should be a really interesting listen. Am I right by saying this will be the first time we heard from him about his time as Coach of Bristol City. He's not going to say much about it though is he. I'd be amazed if we got much more than "It was a difficult period. I'd like to have been given more time. Wish them well for the rest of the season, after Wednesday night obviously." (A "Ha, ha. Tweet your questions for Dean on twitter.." from Geoff Twentyman, who still hasn't realised the redundancy of the latter part of his tweeting instructions...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDziek Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 He's not going to say much about it though is he. I'd be amazed if we got much more than "It was a difficult period. I'd like to have been given more time. Wish them well for the rest of the season, after Wednesday night obviously." (A "Ha, ha. Tweet your questions for Dean on twitter.." from Geoff Twentyman, who still hasn't realised the redundancy of the latter part of his tweeting instructions...) Presumably any settlement agreement (assuming there was one! after his sacking would prevent him revealing too much? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Might have to wait for a couple of years at least, but I reckon he'd be a good candidate for the OSIB lads to have a chat and a cider with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: Might have to wait for a couple of years at least, but I reckon he'd be a good candidate for the OSIB lads to have a chat and a cider with. Way ahead of you, asked him as soon as he got the gig at Stoke but he’s all NDA’d up. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, SuperDziek said: Presumably any settlement agreement (assuming there was one! after his sacking would prevent him revealing too much? I'd think any contract of employment would be written on the basis that anything you are involved in or learn about viz your employment would be internal/secret, or confidential, unless otherwise agreed. Being free from the contract of employment wouldn't give you any rights to disclose anything you learned whilst under it. Probably settlement agreements serve to enforce this by the way of simple immediate financial penalty - not that this would necessarily be the end of matters. So all but the terminally stupid probably know its in their interests to keep their mouths shut at least until the memoirs are written and no one give much of a damn about things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: Might have to wait for a couple of years at least, but I reckon he'd be a good candidate for the OSIB lads to have a chat and a cider with. Regardless of what happened here, you do get the impression hes a straight up kinda guy, who it would be interesting to chat to 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, petehinton said: he’s all NDA’d up. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahanshahan Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: assistant manager of our Wednesday nights opponenents show starts at 6pm on radio bristol Along with City fans Ellie Jones and Lee Pole Don't know how you got your information @Never to the dark side, but to inform everyone that I will be on the show as well! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Still feel bad for the bloke who wouldn't jump at the chance to manage BCFC. Got shit on by that slimy brummie manual manipulator. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Can someone post a link please. I've cracked my phone screen and the top half of my phone doesn't work ahhhh. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Elruliri said: Can someone post a link please. I've cracked my phone screen and the top half of my phone doesn't work ahhhh. Many thanks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b12h4b 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 shahanshahan speak to radiio bristol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: He's not going to say much about it though is he. I'd be amazed if we got much more than "It was a difficult period. I'd like to have been given more time. Wish them well for the rest of the season, after Wednesday night obviously." (A "Ha, ha. Tweet your questions for Dean on twitter.." from Geoff Twentyman, who still hasn't realised the redundancy of the latter part of his tweeting instructions...) I'm glad I'm not the only one this bugs!! Why not phone in using your telephone, or send a letter using the royal mail delivery service, or come down to the BBC talk to us in person using your mouth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, SBB said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b12h4b Many thanks SBB. Top man as Twentyman would say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will b11 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just listened to it then , he sounds excited to come back on Wednesday, I hope we give him a good reception ! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Said he really enjoyed his time here. Very classy Dean Holden. Wish him every success. Just not against us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Would be nice for him to get a good response, it’s a shame he never got to manage a game in front of the fans (well at the beginning anyway) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Skin said: I'm glad I'm not the only one this bugs!! Why not phone in using your telephone, or send a letter using the royal mail delivery service, or come down to the BBC talk to us in person using your mouth? Imagine if it was done by letter and post, for some of the 'reactionaries' on here their letter would be 'redundant by the time it arrived. Following the Posh result they would be writing about how great the spirit it and how we have an outside chance of top six and the Pearson revolution is underway, by the time it arrived they'd be drafting another saying we need a young up and coming coach, the players are spineless and we're going down to league one 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 51 minutes ago, Will b11 said: Just listened to it then , he sounds excited to come back on Wednesday, I hope we give him a good reception ! Chinos all round? Deano's…Chinos… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, Will b11 said: Just listened to it then , he sounds excited to come back on Wednesday, I hope we give him a good reception ! I would be amazed and disappointed if the guy didn't get a great reception. Part of the League Cup run to the semis, always great with the fans, had to deal with the worst injury list of any City manager ever and overcome horrendous personal circumstances to achieve in the game. I wouldn't care if I was stood on my own, he'll get applause from me when he enters pitchside. 12 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Red Skin said: I'm glad I'm not the only one this bugs!! Why not phone in using your telephone, or send a letter using the royal mail delivery service, or come down to the BBC talk to us in person using your mouth? Ha ha yeah, we're on the same page. I can't help it winding me up. I'm sat there thinking 'email using email, email using email.' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: shahanshahan speak to radiio bristol KC & The Shunshine Band? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said: Chinos all round? Deano's…Chinos… As long as we're leading by enough goals for chants not to backfire on us, I think a couple of rounds of 'Deano's chinos' would be awesome. Perhaps s82 can do the 'Deano's' and the Dolman/Rest of South Stand can do 'Chino's'. It would be doubly amazing if he happened to be wearing them. Edited November 22, 2021 by Sleepy1968 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: KC & The Shunshine Band? Give it up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: As long as we're leading by enough goals for chants not to backfire on us, I think a couple of rounds of 'Deano's chinos' would be awesome. Perhaps s82 can do the 'Deano's' and the Dolman/Rest of South Stand can do 'Chino's'. It would be doubly amazing if he happened to be wearing them. That'll be fab! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 If Paterson was booed I think, rather horrendously, Holden will have more than his fair share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Given the fact that he never managed us in front of fans for a single game the least we can do is show our appreciation for his efforts. It may not have worked out but nobody could ever fault his character or commitment to succeed with us. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Applaud him? What for? He got well paid as an assistant coach. Why is it that so many ordinary coaches believe that they should keep on aiming for the top job and that they will be the next Alec Ferguson? Their ego's tell them that a coach will make a good manager which rarely happens. 1 1 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Applaud him? What for? Giving his all to the club during a very difficult period 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: If Paterson was booed I think, rather horrendously, Holden will have more than his fair share. That was in game banter, Paterson got a warm round of applause after the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I hope he gets a decent reception. In regards to his performance, it didn’t work out for him here. However, we’ve since learned that the problems lie deeper than previously thought, we had a horrendous injury list and it was his first role as manager. Performances and results were not good enough, the guy gave his all but was out of his depth. Can’t blame him in going for the job, there were positive signs at the beginning. He was part of the coaching setup that had us improving year on year and deserves a good reception. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Recall when wilson came back, with mk dons, i think. Pretty sure we were coasting at half time, and then they scored a few. Wilson got clapped at full time. Tinnion got plenty of stick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Having just heard the interview I would recommend it, it’s a good listen. He speaks very highly of us and recalls all his time with us as you might expect as clearly there were some good times. I did think he was a bit deluded about his time as Head Coach but he came across as having a love for our club. The bit I found most interesting is how people were advising him to look after himself when things started going bad, the inference being to divert blame; something he said he wanted to ignore due to the culture he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 hours ago, cidered abroad said: Applaud him? What for? He got well paid as an assistant coach. Why is it that so many ordinary coaches believe that they should keep on aiming for the top job and that they will be the next Alec Ferguson? Their ego's tell them that a coach will make a good manager which rarely happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said: Recall when wilson came back, with mk dons, i think. Pretty sure we were coasting at half time, and then they scored a few. Wilson got clapped at full time. Tinnion got plenty of stick. 'Walking in a Wilson wonderland' belted out in the closing minutes from memory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: 'Walking in a Wilson wonderland' belted out in the closing minutes from memory Quite right to. Even Wilson himself doesn’t know why he was sacked during the summer when he was on holiday. That was probably SLs biggest mistake………… 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 He snubbed tins handshake that day too. He went on to say after he was stabbed in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: 'Walking in a Wilson wonderland' belted out in the closing minutes from memory From memory Tinnion wasn't very happy about the reception he got, had a dig afterwards about Wilson being here 4 years and not getting us promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 He snubbed tins handshake that day too. He went on to say after he was stabbed in the back. Bit confused here,could I ask who this refers to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Tinnion and wilson never. Yes Tins went on radio bristol after and what he said amounted to why were you clapping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: Tinnion and wilson never. Yes Tins went on radio bristol after and what he said amounted to why were you clapping him. Tinnion was very bitter about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: As long as we're leading by enough goals for chants not to backfire on us, I think a couple of rounds of 'Deano's chinos' would be awesome. Perhaps s82 can do the 'Deano's' and the Dolman/Rest of South Stand can do 'Chino's'. It would be doubly amazing if he happened to be wearing them. Who's going to tell him...? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, harrys said: Tinnion was very bitter about it It was pretty embarrassing. I think a lot of us thought Tinnion was a strange appointment from day one (as he’d never been a coach or even a captain) but the revisionism over Wilson’s time with us was just ridiculous. Tinnion was certainly right about one thing, he had 4 full seasons in charge & we were no further forward than when Wilson had arrived. Contrast with how quickly John Ward, GJ & Cotts all turned it around & got us up (in their first full seasons). 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Super Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 Wilson can never be forgiven for that shit show in the playoff final. 22 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Super said: Wilson can never be forgiven for that shit show in the playoff final. Exactly! Never forgive him for having Leroy Lita scoring for fun in the reserves and he wasn’t even named in the squad for the Final. We’d struggled to break Brighton down a short time before iirc and we were really lacking firepower, at the time. There was no way back for Wilson for me after that toothless showing in the Final. At least when we played Hull, we gave it a go, but that Brighton game was inexcusable. 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kid in the Riot Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 hours ago, One Team said: The bit I found most interesting is how people were advising him to look after himself when things started going bad, the inference being to divert blame; something he said he wanted to ignore due to the culture he wanted. The problem was the culture and environment created by Holden was just too...cosy. He unfortunately falls into the old stereotype of being a good no. 2 that gets on well with the players, but does not have that ruthless, or even mean streak that a confident, assertive manager and leader needs to be successful. It even came across clearly in his interview last night, saying how he tried to lead by example, and naming all the "lovely" staff at the club. Sorry, but as manager of a Championship club you shouldn't be leading by example, you need to be a bit more dictatorial and take the reigns. Kick some arses and tear a strip of paint off the changing room walls as HT, if you need to. He was Keith Millen mk II. Lovely, lovely bloke but not a no. 1. Huge mistake by SL that he couldn't see history repeating, when nearly everyone else could. It's surely no coincidence that the only success we've had in the last 20 years has been delivered by two men who were prepared to bang a few heads together if they needed - GJ and SC. They set standards and were winners. Let's hope Pearson, who is a similar type, can also succeed given time. 28 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: It was pretty embarrassing. I think a lot of us thought Tinnion was a strange appointment from day one (as he’d never been a coach or even a captain) but the revisionism over Wilson’s time with us was just ridiculous. Tinnion was certainly right about one thing, he had 4 full seasons in charge & we were no further forward than when Wilson had arrived. Contrast with how quickly John Ward, GJ & Cotts all turned it around & got us up (in their first full seasons). Fantastic post and just how I see it. Apart from the LDV Final Wilson’s tenure was a failure and as a few have said on this thread the playoff final was unforgivable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: The problem was the culture and environment created by Holden was just too...cosy. He unfortunately falls into the old stereotype of being a good no. 2 that gets on well with the players, but does not have that ruthless, or even mean streak that a confident, assertive manager and leader needs to be successful. It even came across clearly in his interview last night, saying how he tried to lead by example, and naming all the "lovely" staff at the club. Sorry, but as manager of a Championship club you shouldn't be leading by example, you need to be a bit more dictatorial and take the reigns. Kick some arses and tear a strip of paint off the changing room walls as HT, if you need to. He was Keith Millen mk II. Lovely, lovely bloke but not a no. 1. Huge mistake by SL that he couldn't see history repeating, when nearly everyone else could. It's surely no coincidence that the only success we've had in the last 20 years has been delivered by two men who were prepared to bang a few heads together if they needed - GJ and SC. They set standards and were winners. Let's hope Pearson, who is a similar type, can also succeed given time. Great post. It isn’t a coincidence at all that the only successful managers of the 20 years have been GJ and SC. Two uncompromising leaders who know how it’s done. It’s also no coincidence that SL failed on three occasions with the appointments of Tinnion, Millen and Holden. All decent men but poor football managers. Hopefully we’ve learnt something now and we can look forward positively with our current and any future appointments. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: The problem was the culture and environment created by Holden was just too...cosy. He unfortunately falls into the old stereotype of being a good no. 2 that gets on well with the players, but does not have that ruthless, or even mean streak that a confident, assertive manager and leader needs to be successful. It even came across clearly in his interview last night, saying how he tried to lead by example, and naming all the "lovely" staff at the club. Sorry, but as manager of a Championship club you shouldn't be leading by example, you need to be a bit more dictatorial and take the reigns. Kick some arses and tear a strip of paint off the changing room walls as HT, if you need to. He was Keith Millen mk II. Lovely, lovely bloke but not a no. 1. Huge mistake by SL that he couldn't see history repeating, when nearly everyone else could. It's surely no coincidence that the only success we've had in the last 20 years has been delivered by two men who were prepared to bang a few heads together if they needed - GJ and SC. They set standards and were winners. Let's hope Pearson, who is a similar type, can also succeed given time. 100% this. Most Winston Churchill quotes were never said by him, but one that was is "in war you don't have to be nice, you have to be right." That's true in management too. You have to have the single-mindedness to let down, and perhaps let go, mates if they aren't performing. You can't just be everyone's friend. You lose your authority if you try to be that. You need a bit of distance. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, One Team said: Great post. It isn’t a coincidence at all that the only successful managers of the 20 years have been GJ and SC. Two uncompromising leaders who know how it’s done. It’s also no coincidence that SL failed on three occasions with the appointments of Tinnion, Millen and Holden. All decent men but poor football managers. Hopefully we’ve learnt something now and we can look forward positively with our current and any future appointments. Also makes you wonder if the biggest challenge NP may have been facing at this club could be a few players who were resisting their ‘cosy club’ being taken away. It certainly felt at the end of last season that there were a few who seemed quite content to see us dropping like a stone and maybe hoped he’d get binned. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Super said: Wilson can never be forgiven for that shit show in the playoff final. I will say though that the pre-game drink-up before was top drawer. Sadly, as soon as the game kicked-off I think we all knew we were never going to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said: Also makes you wonder if the biggest challenge NP may have been facing at this club could be a few players who were resisting their ‘cosy club’ being taken away. It certainly felt at the end of last season that there were a few who seemed quite content to see us dropping like a stone and maybe hoped he’d get binned. In a nutshell for me. And vital that the talented youngsters get steered in the right direction by players who’ve won things. We might not see Simpson (for example) shining on the pitch but if he’s passing on his nous and professionalism to Tanner then that’s a big plus. Its not ideal to have a squad on u23s and 30-pluses (with very little in between), but I did like some of the “don’t you kick our kids” big-brother stuff on Saturday. There was a sense of “all in it together”, and I think Baker and Williams aggressive intensity rubbed off on players like O’Dowda too, not just the young’uns. Quite refreshing to see a normally physical Blackburn team, bleating at the ref, not us. Hopefully not a one-off. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: In a nutshell for me. And vital that the talented youngsters get steered in the right direction by players who’ve won things. We might not see Simpson (for example) shining on the pitch but if he’s passing on his nous and professionalism to Tanner then that’s a big plus. Its not ideal to have a squad on u23s and 30-pluses (with very little in between), but I did like some of the “don’t you kick our kids” big-brother stuff on Saturday. There was a sense of “all in it together”, and I think Baker and Williams aggressive intensity rubbed off on players like O’Dowda too, not just the young’uns. Quite refreshing to see a normally physical Blackburn team, bleating at the ref, not us. Hopefully not a one-off. I'll be interested to see a midfield of Williams, James and King at some point. Can't see too many teams taking liberties with those 3. Edited November 23, 2021 by glynriley 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Davefevs said: In a nutshell for me. And vital that the talented youngsters get steered in the right direction by players who’ve won things. We might not see Simpson (for example) shining on the pitch but if he’s passing on his nous and professionalism to Tanner then that’s a big plus. Its not ideal to have a squad on u23s and 30-pluses (with very little in between), but I did like some of the “don’t you kick our kids” big-brother stuff on Saturday. There was a sense of “all in it together”, and I think Baker and Williams aggressive intensity rubbed off on players like O’Dowda too, not just the young’uns. Quite refreshing to see a normally physical Blackburn team, bleating at the ref, not us. Hopefully not a one-off. Completely with you there and that extra physicality on Saturday was probably the biggest plus for me. I think people questioning why these older players were brought in need to look back at this game to get their answer. It was great that Mobray described us as being ‘physical’ ….. talk about the pot calling the kettle black! It certainly isn’t a term we’ve heard describing City for a very long time! Its so refreshing to see our players giving as good as they get for a change, rather than just rolling over or hiding. That’s definitely something to build on and let’s just hope NP has now decided on the nucleus of his squad going forward. For the first in quite a while, I really feel optimistic that we’ll finish the season comfortably, after being in freefall lately. as to whether this was a one-off, we don’t have long to wait, as we’ll need more of that again tomorrow for sure. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Robbored said: Quite right to. Even Wilson himself doesn’t know why he was sacked during the summer when he was on holiday. That was probably SLs biggest mistake………… We were at the end of year 4 of a 3 year plan, he had tried exciting attacking football and fell at the last hurdle. He then switched to ultra defensive mode, using two full backs in midfield for a long period, from memory, and then fell at the last hurdle again. He had run out of ideas and it showed, the drinking culture in the club was well known and the fact he still lived in the Sheffield area meant he had a lack of control over that. If he doesn't know why he was given the boot he also must have been very far away from the thinking within the club at the time. 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 50 minutes ago, glynriley said: I'll be interested to see a midfield of Williams, James and King at some point. Can't see too many teams taking liberties with those 3. Problem with that midfield is it lacks energy. Williams and James with HNM would be better imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, CyderInACan said: I will say though that the pre-game drink-up before was top drawer. Sadly, as soon as the game kicked-off I think we all knew we were never going to win. Yours or the team's? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: We were at the end of year 4 of a 3 year plan, he had tried exciting attacking football and fell at the last hurdle. He then switched to ultra defensive mode, using two full backs in midfield for a long period, from memory, and then fell at the last hurdle again. He had run out of ideas and it showed, the drinking culture in the club was well known and the fact he still lived in the Sheffield area meant he had a lack of control over that. If he doesn't know why he was given the boot he also must have been very far away from the thinking within the club at the time. He had spent lots of money but failed to win promotion. As a consequence he was told the budget had to be cut but didn't accept that. Of course subsequently a certain Conference manager won promotion on a shoestring with a squad that on paper was weaker than Wilson's. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, chinapig said: He had spent lots of money but failed to win promotion. As a consequence he was told the budget had to be cut but didn't accept DW didn’t mention that when he took part in an interview on one of the City podcasts. For me Wilson provided the most attacking and exiting football in years and we’ve not seen anything as thrilling since. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Robbored said: DW didn’t mention that when he took part in an interview on one of the City podcasts. For me Wilson provided the most attacking and exiting football in years and we’ve not seen anything as thrilling since. Of course he didn't but it was reported at the time. Also that he would have to reduce the coaching staff. Fine if you want to be entertained in the third division for years perhaps but JW, GJ and SC all outperformed him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, Robbored said: DW didn’t mention that when he took part in an interview on one of the City podcasts. For me Wilson provided the most attacking and exiting football in years and we’ve not seen anything as thrilling since. Well he certainly made me leave the play off final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, chinapig said: Fine if you want to be entertained in the third division for years perhaps but JW, GJ and SC all outperformed him. I boils down to one question - would you prefer to watch exiting and entertaining football week on week or dull and turgid one dimensional play and watching the grass grow? I know what I prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Robbored said: I boils down to one question - would you prefer to watch exiting and entertaining football week on week or dull and turgid one dimensional play and watching the grass grow? I know what I prefer. We’re you not entertained by Cotts? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: We’re you not entertained by Cotts? His teams could produce decent stuff but not as consistently as under DW. 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: His teams could produce decent stuff but not as consistently as under DW. Hard to be more consistent than virtually every week in 14/15? 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 The most entertaining City teams I've seen since I've been going (1982) are Cooper's team 84-86 and Jordan's 89-90. Not the best I've seen, but the most entertaining. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Hard to be more consistent than virtually every week in 14/15? Wilson was at City 2000-2004 and certainly the last two seasons were a really entertaining. The likes of Tinnion, Murray, Peacock, Bell et al were a joy to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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