Scott and Benarous

[Globe Trotter]

Fantastic performance both. I genuinely think their courage and fearlessness in the midst of the battering we were getting at the start helped them more senior players grow in confidence.

100% effort and plenty of skill , Top job! 

[And Its Smith]

Both absolutely superb. Have loved Benarous for a while now and delighted to see him ready before we thought he would be.  
 

 

[Henry]

That’s why Palmer can’t make the 18.

[And Its Smith]

Conway the next one. Can’t wait to have him back fit. Semenyo as well.  

[Littlesh*t]

They are both clearly classy players but what impressed me more than anything was the time wasting, tackles and general winding up of there players which I didn't expect from 2 young lads 

[Dolman_Stand]

Ssssssssshhhh, don't tell anyone!! Last thing we need is a big money offer in January for either of them

[Numero Uno]

It’s the lack of fear that’s the key. Noticeable that they both WANT the ball. Tonight will do wonders for their confidence.

[redsince1994]

Just now, Littlesh*t said:

They are both clearly classy players but what impressed me more than anything was the time wasting, tackles and general winding up of there players which I didn't expect from 2 young lads 

Benarous is a complete pain in the arse and I am loving every second of it!

Won't be the last time he gets someone sent off I am sure.

[YGBjammy]

Proud to support a club who actually let's them play. Perhaps brought about by circumstances, but still credit to the club for trusting them.

A lot of clubs talk the talk about their youth academies but rarely do you actually see players given a decent chance.

[MarcusX]

An absolute delight to watch them play.

for all the negatives of the last few months/year, there’s some positives growing. Some young talented lads coming up through the team

[Banjo Island]

Outstanding the futre of this football club really hope we can hang on to these lads what fantastic performances i look forward to watching them play for many seasons to come coyr

[Red Army 87]

5 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said:

Fantastic performance both. I genuinely think their courage and fearlessness in the midst of the battering we were getting at the start helped them more senior players grow in confidence.

100% effort and plenty of skill , Top job! 

Benarous showing other ‘flair’ players how to put a shift in and show commitment. 

[ciderwithtommy]

Benarous showing exactly what we have missed for 18months. Ability to keep the ball in tight spaces, and a desire to be a winner at all costs. Unreal it’s taken a 18 y/o to show our older lads how’s its done, but there you go! 

[robin_unreliant]

I thought Scott did really well, even if he had to do a lot more defending than is probably natural for him. 

[Red Army 75]

Absolutely class. Especially Benarous unbelievable talent. Up the ******* city 

[Simon79]

Both played well. But Benarous in particular impresses me. A real swagger, a confidence in his ability on the ball, happy to hand out some stick, ball manipulation in tight areas, has time on the ball & knows how to draw a foul when we needed a breather. Really impressed & I have high hopes for him in particular. COYR 

[steveybadger]

Loved the fact they were both left on - talk about confidence - them and in them.

[Red Homer]

1 minute ago, ciderwithtommy said:

Benarous showing exactly what we have missed for 18months. Ability to keep the ball in tight spaces, and a desire to be a winner at all costs. Unreal it’s taken a 18 y/o to show our older lads how’s its done, but there you go! 

He certainly has form for being able to keep the ball - granted this is from 5 years ago so only 12 or 13, but you can see his talent on the ball.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKwF4DUAwdT/?utm_medium=copy_link

[petehinton]

Been convinced for years that Benarous would leave us for a bigger team before we ever saw him in the first team. Absolutely delighted that’s not the case. 
 

Him & Scott putting in performances like that for 99 minutes at this level is outstanding 

[skinheadface]

Outstanding performances.

[Red Army 75]

Putting season Pros to shame. Love it

[DaveInSA]

Is that the same Benarous who was written off after his first substitute appearance? 
 

or is it a different one? 

[tin]

Benarous showed maturity beyond his years in the closing stages. Both he and Scott’s work-rate shone through for me. That sets the standard for all to follow.

[miser]

Writing out their full names has left you behind the other thread, but agree  - 2 magnificent performances.

[Gazred]

It's fantastic to see. With the development curve they are on we'll be lucky to see them beyond a couple more seasons.

[Ecko]

Both were very impressive tonight and hopefully they kick on and improve.

Fair play to Pearson and the coaching staff for giving them and others their chance.

[Fordy62]

They’ll have bad days ahead I’m sure, but how amazing it is to see a couple of players who grab your attention as soon as they get the ball. 

I bet they’ll be reading this thread tonight absolutely buzzing. 

[BasSavage88]

How much have they both left on their contracts? 

[AshtonRobin21]

Both are fantastic talents. 

Really impressed with how they have made the step up. I hope they will remain with us for many years to come. 

Benarous' composure during injury time was incredible. The calmest player on the pitch, making all the correct decisions, and forcing Stoke into challenges. 

Huge credit to both of them tonight. 

Also great to see the players praise Benarous at the final whistle. 

Up the City! 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

15 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

They are both clearly classy players but what impressed me more than anything was the time wasting, tackles and general winding up of there players which I didn't expect from 2 young lads 

Spot on but it's their mental strength that also impresses me. On another night with another ref than Langford  Scott may have seen red rather than yellow but his booking didn't stop his commitment. Benarous did well to make sure that Joe Allen was Langfords first red card of the season but he too will pick up bookings along the way. The kids are alright but let's not get carried away just yet. I suspect they may drop back to the bench once James and King are fit. 

 

 

[Super]

Both were very good. Scott a bit lucky not to see red for that tackle but they really showed some fight tonight.

[steviestevieneville]

22 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said:

Benarous showing other ‘flair’ players how to put a shift in and show commitment. 

Exactly . Kasey Palmer should be watching him & learning , not the other way round . 

[Street red]

26 minutes ago, Henry said:

That’s why Palmer can’t make the 18.

Complete waste of money needs to be shipped out along with Dasilva.  Just keep walking and don't turn back.

[Taylor10]

29 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said:

Fantastic performance both. I genuinely think their courage and fearlessness in the midst of the battering we were getting at the start helped them more senior players grow in confidence.

100% effort and plenty of skill , Top job! 

Glad to see a thread started on both. Such a huge positive tonight. Both exceptional in and out of possession and looked like seasoned pros. Different class.

[YGBjammy]

11 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

They’ll have bad days ahead I’m sure, but how amazing it is to see a couple of players who grab your attention as soon as they get the ball. 

I bet they’ll be reading this thread tonight absolutely buzzing. 

Nah not tonight; well past their bedtime

[Northern Red]

5 minutes ago, Super said:

Both were very good. Scott a bit lucky not to see red for that tackle but they really showed some fight tonight.

I was expecting him to be subbed off after that and wouldn't have blamed Nige if he did, but he handled the remainder of the game really well and got better if anything.

[Daniro]

Agree they were both brilliant but as the Stoke manager just pointed out, Scott was a bit lucky not to get a red card for that tackle.   That said Allen should have got a red instead of the first yellow so guess its even stevens

[eardun]

23 minutes ago, Simon79 said:

Both played well. But Benarous in particular impresses me. A real swagger, a confidence in his ability on the ball, happy to hand out some stick, ball manipulation in tight areas, has time on the ball & knows how to draw a foul when we needed a breather. Really impressed & I have high hopes for him in particular. COYR 

Agree with this. Flair plus strength, commitment and bite. A joy to watch. And even more impressive that for someone new to the pace of the Championship he was still doing it in the 99th minute. 

[Guest JakeBS3]

Totally agreed. And please - let's keep them! No selling them at the first opportunity like we did with Lloyd Kelly 

[Jimbo76]

Appreciate that it's a bold comparison to make but I see Benarous as a Grealish type player.

Good on the ball, antagonistic, knows just how to draw a foul, constantly wants the ball.

Really good to have someone genuinely exciting as a city fan.

As a team tonight, I thought they ran themselves into the ground.

Weimann always runs like a lunatic but Chris Martin tonight was like a different player.

Great team effort and hopefully the start of a good Xmas run.

[miser]

1 minute ago, Daniro said:

Agree they were both brilliant but as the Stoke manager just pointed out, Scott was a bit lucky not to get a red card for that tackle.   That said Allen should have got a red instead of the first yellow so guess its even stevens

A tackle versus a cynical kick. I know which one deserves more. Admittedly Allen did yet punished for 2 cynicals 

[The Batman]

35 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Ssssssssshhhh, don't tell anyone!! Last thing we need is a big money offer in January for either of them

Newcastle to bid £100 million for each in January 

[Agard Days Night]

38 minutes ago, Henry said:

That’s why Palmer can’t make the 18.

Who?

[Lack of Action Man]

It really is pleasing to see the Academy and development teams either producing or developing players of this caliber. 

[Finley_Smith10]

Both absolutely Mustard. Benarous’ touches and strength for someone his size Is ridiculous. And Alex Scott is just a baller, so confident on the ball and he’s playing out of position. 
 

Got two very good players coming through 

[hertsexile]

Watched match on Sky tonight pundit Glen Murray very impressed with both also liked our other youngsters on show. 

[Bodiesaffer]

Different class tonight. Well happy.  The futures looking bright again..

[mozo]

If Bakinson and Vyner can turn their careers around now and win us all over, then to have Scott, Benarous, and hopefully Conway, Bell and one or two others come through...it would be a team to be proud of.

Edit: Pring too, mind...

Edited November 24, 2021 by mozo

[red colin]

36 minutes ago, tin said:

Benarous showed maturity beyond his years in the closing stages. Both he and Scott’s work-rate shone through for me. That sets the standard for all to follow.

They were standout for me.slowing it drawing fouls etc seeing a game out which seniors struggle with .Big shout for Martin too worked his socks off.

[HappyClapper]

I echo all the praise. Fantastic from them both. And what a carrot for the other talented players in the academy that there is a genuine pathway. Well done to all involved in their development.

[Dan Robin]

I was confident about Scott's ability but I feared that playing both him and  Benarous in such a difficult moment of the season was a risk: maybe I was wrong... 

[David Brent]

 Benarous got a lot of criticism on his debut (people seemed to forget he’s only 18 and coming into a game where we holding on) but he looks an established player already. Players with no fear at all.

[Better Red]

Both look great tonight after pretty good games against Blackburn. 
 

They both look like they can be in around the team this season. 
 

If Seymenyo could get some consistency and add a few goals then add Tanner and Atkinson who continue to develop we could have a decent bunch to build a few more senior players around.

Also I think you can put HNM & Bakinson into perspective. The 2 kids look way in-front of both of them in terms of both ability and potential.

I know It’s not popular re HNM. I won’t him to do well but just can see how he impacts the game enough.

[Taz]

Great game from both of them, but Benarous looks like a player who is not afraid to play the dark arts of the game. There will be times he doesn't get away with it, but for far too long we have been soft, and naive. We finally look like we're starting to wise up a lot, and that alone will help to see out games, much like tonight. 

Yes Scott could have been sent off, but we could have had a penalty in the first half, I've seen them given.

[The Swan and Cemetery]

20 minutes ago, HappyClapper said:

I echo all the praise. Fantastic from them both. And what a carrot for the other talented players in the academy that there is a genuine pathway. Well done to all involved in their development.

And at risk of stating the obvious, without endless loans (which can be the right thing, just good to see a couple not need them) and straight into Championship football, which whilst not always technically stunning, is a number of light years ahead of the park kick around nonsense found in depths of League Two. Shows the academy really firing these days, fair play to all involved. 

[GrahamC]

Exceptional performances from both of them.

Was fully expecting both of them to be subbed off, but circumstances meant that couldn’t happen, incredible effort by both of them to complete the 90 (+8) minutes & still be fully contributing, superb displays.

[onlyotib]

In my opinion tonight was the night they both become men

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, YGBjammy said:

Proud to support a club who actually let's them play. Perhaps brought about by circumstances, but still credit to the club for trusting them.

A lot of clubs talk the talk about their youth academies but rarely do you actually see players given a decent chance.

I really think Nige has thought “f##k it”, he tried to senior players last season before giving the youngsters their head….and I get the impression he’s decided the youngsters are capable enough with the right players around them.  King and James in particular maybe not that far away either.

1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said:

I thought Scott did really well, even if he had to do a lot more defending than is probably natural for him. 

My MOTM.  Thought he did exactly what you want a WB to do.

1 hour ago, petehinton said:

Been convinced for years that Benarous would leave us for a bigger team before we ever saw him in the first team. Absolutely delighted that’s not the case. 
 

Him & Scott putting in performances like that for 99 minutes at this level is outstanding 

Benarous grew into the game again.  Him and Scott in the last 15-20 were bloody brilliant.  Wanted the ball in tight areas, drew tackles, and got fouls.  Don’t forget the 2 mins first half…101 minutes!

[Dolman Block B]

First names on the team sheet 

I’m warming to Vyner at right back

With a choice of Atkinson Kalas Baker Tanner to make up the defence 

Scott Williams James Belerous 

Id drop Weimann for Wells

Martin doing well up front 

 

 

 

 

 

[BLRed]

Despite Benarous and arguably Scott being flair players and more renowned for attacking and taking on players, I love how stuck in they get and the energy they show to chase the game and close down players. Benarous epitomised that right at the end chasing down a player to block a cross coming in. Fantastic to see and long may they stay in the first team lineup

[exAtyeoMax]

Plus they were getting bullied and beaten up by the Stoke players…they’re going to have some bruises tomorrow!

[Offside]

Both were superb. Mature, confident, gritty and skilful performances, with added shithousery. 

[GlastonburyRed]

Good performance from both, not sure if Scott is the answer longer term at RWB/without some adaptations to his defensive positioning & play, but an immense talent.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

3 minutes ago, GlastonburyRed said:

Good performance from both, not sure if Scott is the answer longer term at RWB/without some adaptations to his defensive positioning & play, but an immense talent.

Yes both top performers showed great temperament and wonderful determination to do what was required for the team. Do agree I do not see Scott as a RWB without learning a heap of defensive skill and awarenesses. And would like to mention Massengo. Who I felt when he came on was so disruptive to Stokes midfield. He always seemed to be getting his foot in or blocking their attempted advancing intentions. But my hat off to all who played tonight and the fans at the gate. I took the easy warm option tonite and watched on sky .

COYR

[glynriley]

Shades of 82 tonight. Young lads playing their hearts out. Roared on by the crowd. 

Loved it. More of the same please Nige. 

[Waconda]

And to think there were some on here advocating shutting the Academy !!

There are more like these two coming through, not this season but next.

The only way we will ever be a financially self sufficient club.

[Fuber]

1 hour ago, YGBjammy said:

Proud to support a club who actually let's them play. Perhaps brought about by circumstances, but still credit to the club for trusting them.

A lot of clubs talk the talk about their youth academies but rarely do you actually see players given a decent chance.

On this note - I think it has to be said - Fairplay to Nige.

For all the talk that LJ gave younger players a chance and we profited, the only one who wasn't playing first team football at the point he introduced them to the squad was Kelly(?) unless I'm mistaken. Not countin Brownhill as he knew him before he joined us.

To take the risk implenting and trusting two academy players on the right hand side - never mind on the pitch at the same time - could've been pretty huge if it backfired, both against Blackburn and again today.

It did not. Both of them heart-on-sleave stuff and repaying NP's trust. Back the process.

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, VT05763 said:

And to think there were some on here advocating shutting the Academy !!

There are more like these two coming through, not this season but next.

The only way we will ever be a financially self sufficient club.

Bonkers.

On the pitch at the end:

Scott (18j

Vyner (24)

Atkinson (23)

Pring (23)

a midfield of:

Bakinson (23) - thought he struggled with the ball but his defensive positioning is improving massively 

Massengo (20)

Benarous (18)

I know not all are Academy, but shows good youngsters can be good enough.

[RobintheRed Red]

2 hours ago, Red Homer said:

He certainly has form for being able to keep the ball - granted this is from 5 years ago so only 12 or 13, but you can see his talent on the ball.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKwF4DUAwdT/?utm_medium=copy_link

Jesus junior George Best  looking forward to plenty of that .

[Davefevs]