Major Isewater Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Every thing in the City garden is as rosy as my cheeks . So don’t expect too much in the way of January signings is my take on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 have we ever really done much in the January window? I keep hearing its a notoriously difficult time to do business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Every thing in the City garden is as rosy as my cheeks . So don’t expect too much in the way of January signings is my take on this. As expected,no ambition to compete with the top six ,rather stay in the Championship,and just take our money, ie Season tkt , I Remember Steve Lansdowns words when we got promoted to the Championship,(SC days) I will get this team to the Premier League in 5yrs, YEH RIGHT, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 where is this interview please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: have we ever really done much in the January window? I keep hearing its a notoriously difficult time to do business Didn't we bring in Diony one January ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, frenchred said: where is this interview please? Twitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: Twitter. ah ok thanks, anyone know how us non twitter people can listen? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: have we ever really done much in the January window? I keep hearing its a notoriously difficult time to do business We blew a dollop of wonga on Nahki Wells. That went well 14 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Didn't we bring in Diony one January ? Another splodge of cash, even as a loan, that was wasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, pongo88 said: Another splodge of cash, even as a loan, that was wasted. Don’t forget Ryan Kent. Believe we had to pay a penalty for not playing him enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Bit of a pointless interview. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Bound to be some sort of signings. Defo some loans needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Does anyone have an alternative for SL, maybe a fake Sheikh or a local builder? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, glynriley said: Don’t forget Ryan Kent. Believe we had to pay a penalty for not playing him enough. LJ , didn't rate him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, harrys said: Does anyone have an alternative for SL, maybe a fake Sheikh or a local builder? Doubt it he's basically made us unsaleable! Who wants to buy a crap football team that doesn't own its ground or training facilties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, Redandproud said: As expected,no ambition to compete with the top six ,rather stay in the Championship,and just take our money, ie Season tkt , I Remember Steve Lansdowns words when we got promoted to the Championship,(SC days) I will get this team to the Premier League in 5yrs, YEH RIGHT, If this is his strategy then he's one of the worst business men in the World. Income from Season Tickets must be about £3.5m, in June he wrote off another £14m debt by converting it to shares. He's made plenty of mistakes , trusted the wrong people and I will guarantee he is frustrated at not making the next step to the Prem. But to suggest he's happy just to collect season ticket money is a bit odd. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Twitter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) He doesn't really say anything. It's his classic Young Mr Grace speech. For those too young to get that 'you' re all doing very well'. I don't read anything much into it. Edited December 14, 2021 by robin_unreliant 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Redandproud said: LJ , didn't rate him Didn't you see him play? He looked pretty useless to me. What was he doing here in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Has Lansdown said there won't be any signings? It’s in code, but only a few of us have seemingly broke the code at this point. COYR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 My take on it was “keep spending your £s with Bristol Sport, whilst I try to sell the football club”. At least he has finally given an interview (pointless one). 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: Didn't you see him play? He looked pretty useless to me. What was he doing here in the first place. I saw him play a couple of times,not 90mins though, he was substituted each time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: If this is his strategy then he's one of the worst business men in the World. Income from Season Tickets must be about £3.5m, in June he wrote off another £14m debt by converting it to shares. He's made plenty of mistakes , trusted the wrong people and I will guarantee he is frustrated at not making the next step to the Prem. But to suggest he's happy just to collect season ticket money is a bit odd. He builds our hopes up, helps the manager to get the team into the top 4, then suddenly drops away, to mid table, as always, makes you think they don't want promotion, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Redandproud said: He builds our hopes up, helps the manager to get the team into the top 4, then suddenly drops away, to mid table, as always, makes you think they don't want promotion, Do you really think he allowed Johnson to sign about 70 players, and stepped in near the end of each season to stop any success? His failings were with the managers and staff, what happened on the pitch isn't down to him. He supported just about ever manager, there have been mistakes, maybe didn't support some enough while being too loyal with LJ. If we got into the Prem, that £100m would make a massive difference. For Lansdown to turn that down through choice, would be madness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, Redandproud said: I saw him play a couple of times,not 90mins though, he was substituted each time, Uncle Steve ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Spread himself too thin...jack of all trades, master of none. When asked about Bristol City...the reply is ...' well the men's team etc'. As every year goes by, he comes across as someone who had a great idea and belief, but made massive mistakes along the way. Had more money than sense...decided he wanted to leave a legacy. Football, men's, womens, Basketball, Rugby, Lando ( although from horse's mouth, no money involved, just promotion for both ) car racing etc. Spread himself too thin...not focused on anything in particular. Tbh...it all comes across as a rich man's play thing, and is more involved with Botswana and wild animal welfare. No bad thing. Imo...it's a project that hasn't been fulfilled and leaving would be seen as failure. So it's a no win situation. Great being successful at other businesses, but surely he must sit down sometimes and contemplate where it's gone wrong. As a successful businessman you would. However...admitting failure, however hard you try, just doesn't come naturally to some people who are exceedingly successful at other ventures. Doing so would be seen as negative against the prospect of further business investments. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der no.2 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Nige is bouncing around and get in as early as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Redandproud said: As expected,no ambition to compete with the top six ,rather stay in the Championship,and just take our money, ie Season tkt , I Remember Steve Lansdowns words when we got promoted to the Championship,(SC days) I will get this team to the Premier League in 5yrs, YEH RIGHT, What ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, frenchred said: Doubt it he's basically made us unsaleable! Who wants to buy a crap football team that doesn't own its ground or training facilties? How many times… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wybmadwity Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 How long has Mr. Lansdown had mutton chop whiskers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Redandproud said: He builds our hopes up, helps the manager to get the team into the top 4, then suddenly drops away, to mid table, as always, makes you think they don't want promotion, Steve Lansdown would absolutely shit himself if we actually got promoted. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Redandproud said: LJ , didn't rate him So he didn't have the final say on signings then? Another waste of money to chalk up to the oily one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Der no.2 said: Nige is bouncing around and get in as early as possible Lansdowns still living in a Johnson wonderland... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, frenchred said: Doubt it he's basically made us unsaleable! Who wants to buy a crap football team that doesn't own its ground or training facilties? Where's Wally? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 14, 2021 Admin Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: have we ever really done much in the January window? I keep hearing its a notoriously difficult time to do business Have we really done much in ANY transfer window? Fortunately it sounds promising this window for a change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 90 seconds of nothingness. Proof of life and that's it. They might as well have just taken a photo of him holding a copy of today's newspaper. He was obviously at the women's game on the Sunday but I assume he wasn't at Hull? Edited December 14, 2021 by Kid in the Riot 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 46 minutes ago, JonDolman said: What part suggests we won't sign anyone? Exactly, nothing from what I have seen. All in all, a bit of a strange thing to put out. But I think it’s just a case of ‘ I’m still around ‘ type thing in all honesty. COYR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said: He doesn't really say anything. It's his classic Young Mr Grace speech. For those too young to get that 'you' re all doing very well'. I don't read anything much into it. Is Maggie his Miss Brahms? 24 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: 90 seconds of nothingness. Proof of life and that's it. They might as well have just taken a photo of him holding a copy of today's newspaper. He was obviously at the women's game on the Sunday but I assume he wasn't at Hull? do you blame e him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 53 minutes ago, Street red said: Lansdowns still living in a Johnson wonderland... I’ve thought this before as well. I genuinely think he’d reappoint LJ in the future, expecting some sort of West Ham/David Moyes-esque renaissance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Redandproud said: As expected,no ambition to compete with the top six ,rather stay in the Championship,and just take our money, ie Season tkt , I Remember Steve Lansdowns words when we got promoted to the Championship,(SC days) I will get this team to the Premier League in 5yrs, YEH RIGHT, 122% wages to turnover would suggest we have given it a decent go... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, DaveF said: 122% wages to turnover would suggest we have given it a decent go... No it wouldn't, it would suggest too many mistakes and bad decisions have been made 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, DaveF said: 122% wages to turnover would suggest we have given it a decent go... Good level of investment, awful value for money... 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Good level of investment, awful value for money... Mark Ashton was a bargain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) If anyone see's Nige "Bouncing around" ? Can they please record it on their mobile.........as, sorry I am not gonna believe it, without evidence? Edited December 14, 2021 by maxjak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I’m sure he realises how bad it has been recently he can’t come out and say that though can he, same as he can’t come out and say we’re going to buy 3 players or spend £3m in January. While he is a very powerful person he doesn’t control everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Redandproud said: LJ , didn't rate him Despite having final say on all signings (his words not mine!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Redandproud said: I Remember Steve Lansdowns words when we got promoted to the Championship,(SC days) I will get this team to the Premier League in 5yrs, YEH RIGHT, SL said PL in 5 years? I don't recall him ever saying anything like that. Don't suppose you have a link at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 In ljs last year, play offs at least, jon or steve said..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 A nothing interview. He is here for the Huddersfield game Saturday. Hoping we will have a more in-depth interview with him about the football club. But I doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 11 hours ago, frenchred said: No it wouldn't, it would suggest too many mistakes and bad decisions have been made We still gave it a go. Just badly. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 15 hours ago, Redandproud said: As expected,no ambition to compete with the top six ,rather stay in the Championship,and just take our money, ie Season tkt , I Remember Steve Lansdowns words when we got promoted to the Championship,(SC days) I will get this team to the Premier League in 5yrs, YEH RIGHT, I struggle to understand this reaction. We are bleeding money, SL has to write a huge cheque each year. We have some of our highest paid players not making the squad and you want him to pour more money in? NP has been given the job to balance the books. We have little chance of offloading our dead wood even for nothing because nobody will match their salary. They will not clear our books for 2 to 3 years. I am not sure that SL will be so impressed by the signings made under NP to risk another chunk of money. I think we are faced with a period of, survive in the Championship (I think Reading and Derby will not be the last to get points deductions). Bring on the youngsters wait until the expensive mistakes are gone. By that time you would hope that our post Ashton management team will have put together a recruitment proposition strong enough to tempt SL to open the wallet again. I think many Championship clubs will be taking the same approach. Unless wages fall to a realistic level and clubs start to live within their means, I think the championship will be the grave yard of many formerly big clubs. It cannot go on as it is. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 13 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said: Steve Lansdown would absolutely shit himself if we actually got promoted. Of course he would. He is likely to be in his late 90's at least before it happens! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Head Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 14 hours ago, wybmadwity said: How long has Mr. Lansdown had mutton chop whiskers? Merry Christmas, one and all! Now where has Tiny Tim got to, the young rascal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 4 hours ago, richwwtk said: SL said PL in 5 years? I don't recall him ever saying anything like that. Don't suppose you have a link at all? He said it on the pitch after we won at (I think) Blackburn rovers 0-6 ,to win the double, quote "I will get this club to the Premier League in 5yrs," YEH RIGHT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Redandproud said: He said it on the pitch after we won at (I think) Blackburn rovers 0-6 ,to win the double, quote "I will get this club to the Premier League in 5yrs," YEH RIGHT Bradford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 16 hours ago, frenchred said: where is this interview please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Redandproud said: He said it on the pitch after we won at (I think) Blackburn rovers 0-6 ,to win the double, quote "I will get this club to the Premier League in 5yrs," YEH RIGHT Hope your memory of the quote is better than that of the match - it was Bradford City. He didn't say anything of the sort in this interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyw2b9yTOFE - so hopefully you can remember which outlet it appeared in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Well, I think we are turning the corner of recovery under Nigel Pearson albeit slower for some on here. As others have said he feels exactly the same as everyone else as he's a fan also. People who say he doesn't is a little bit disrespectful in my view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Swede said: Well, I think we are turning the corner of recovery under Nigel Pearson albeit slower for some on here. As others have said he feels exactly the same as everyone else as he's a fan also. People who say he doesn't is a little bit disrespectful in my view. Yep. Imagine what this forum would be like if we ACTUALLY had a bad owner. Like one of the foreign ones who would rock up if SL really decided to sell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Hope your memory of the quote is better than that of the match - it was Bradford City. He didn't say anything of the sort in this interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyw2b9yTOFE - so hopefully you can remember which outlet it appeared in. I did quote Blackburn (I think), maybe I'm wrong, but I still say, the premier League is a dream, never going to happen, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: Why have you got to be so insulting, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 15 hours ago, glynriley said: So he didn't have the final say on signings then? Another waste of money to chalk up to the oily one. At Brentford I read that the headcoach doesn't have, hasn't had the final say on signings- worked quite well. Unsure how it all broke down here. I digress, Kent has his attributes but our success had come without more traditional wingers in our golden period that season. Switching to Kent, more traditional fullbacks etc just ripped that structure right up. (The shape when we had all those injuries and yet looked really good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, Leveller said: Yep. Imagine what this forum would be like if we ACTUALLY had a bad owner. Like one of the foreign ones who would rock up if SL really decided to sell. Imagine what ut would be like if a good foreign owner rocked up who new what he was doing! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said: In ljs last year, play offs at least, jon or steve said..... Fwiw I think we have made them in 2017/18 given the massive headstart we had on the chasing pack around Christmas time (post Reading at home), the fact that the injury situation was set to improve in the 2nd half of the season, we didn't sell anyone in January and the confidence of the Cup run. There is also an argument that we could have pushed for say one more CM and one more striker in January 2019 given a) The fact that some momentum was slowly building b) The fact we still had a certain chunk of players who had experienced strong Cup runs (useful for playoffs that) and c) We had useful financial headroom unlike Jan 2018. Our CM especially was thin- Korey had his injury, Hegeler quit/was released after injuries and his coaching ambitions, Walsh despite attributes wasn't fully trusted and Morrell was promising but not seen as sufficiently ready. Thw result being that you flog Brownhill and Pack into the ground. Edited December 15, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, frenchred said: Imagine what ut would be like if a good foreign owner rocked up who new what he was doing! Although we wouldn't particularly be able to splash cash barring a highly unlikely promotion in that time until by my estimates summer 2023 ie 2023/24. Or barring big growth in turnover (genuine not inflated), big player sales or the cost base plunging. Profit on disposal of Fixed assets no longer counts towards FFP and I expect the EFL would be all over suspiciously soaring RPTs. Granted spending in terms of owners isn't everything but I expect that some would have the expectation that a new foreign owner comes in and cash splashed. Not if the FFP position is tight. Strategy of course is a key factor too. Edited December 15, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Might also ask @frenchred to follow up. SL sells tomorrow, new owner comes in...foreign. What would you expect them to do? What do you think that they could do within the regs. Cannot stress enough, new owners do not or cannot reset the regs for a club. Although unlimited expenditure on academy eg is permitted, as it is with infrastructure...one other benefit could be if SL hasn't been putting in the full equity amount to fill the gap between upper and lower losses- although I think he has. The loss and the position stays with the Club- not the Owner. New foreign owner couldn't give us a quick fix unless they gambled in Jan 2022 to spend all of our remaining headroom on strengthening the squad, we surged up, snuck into the PL via the playoffs...other than that...? That aside there would be no quick fix and such an approach could land us with notable problems if promotion was not achieved this and only this season. Edited December 15, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Might also ask @frenchred to follow up. SL sells tomorrow, new owner comes in...foreign. What would you expect them to do? What do you think that they could do within the regs. Cannot stress enough, new owners do not or cannot reset the regs for a club. Although unlimited expenditure on academy eg is permitted, as it is with infrastructure...one other benefit could be if SL hasn't been putting in the full equity amount to fill the gap between upper and lower losses- although I think he has. The loss and the position stays with the Club- not the Owner. New foreign owner couldn't give us a quick fix unless they gambled in Jan 2022 to spend all of our remaining headroom on strengthening the squad, we surged up, snuck into the PL via the playoffs...other than that...? That aside there would be no quick fix and such an approach could land us with notable problems if promotion was not achieved this and only this season. New owners don't mean instant success, I never ever said this, what new owners can do is eradicate the mistakes continually made over lansdowns tenure, they don't need to throw bad money after bad as done during lansdown tenure and they can start by putting football people in the important positions again not done under lansdowns tenure and have a fully functioning, accountable board of directors, again no done during lansdowns tenure. Not asking for or expecting instant results just signs of a functioning club showing progress Edited December 15, 2021 by frenchred 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Might also ask @frenchred to follow up. SL sells tomorrow, new owner comes in...foreign. What would you expect them to do? What do you think that they could do within the regs. Cannot stress enough, new owners do not or cannot reset the regs for a club. Although unlimited expenditure on academy eg is permitted, as it is with infrastructure...one other benefit could be if SL hasn't been putting in the full equity amount to fill the gap between upper and lower losses- although I think he has. The loss and the position stays with the Club- not the Owner. New foreign owner couldn't give us a quick fix unless they gambled in Jan 2022 to spend all of our remaining headroom on strengthening the squad, we surged up, snuck into the PL via the playoffs...other than that...? That aside there would be no quick fix and such an approach could land us with notable problems if promotion was not achieved this and only this season. While there's no quick fix, SL could easily upgrade the academy to Cat 1 status and employ a DOF/Sporting Director to implement a proper scouting network that integrates with all the data the numbercrunching interns process at the training ground. For all the investment in tangible assets, the football infrastructure is lacking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, tin said: While there's no quick fix, SL could easily upgrade the academy to Cat 1 status and employ a DOF/Sporting Director to implement a proper scouting network that integrates with all the data the numbercrunching interns process at the training ground. For all the investment in tangible assets, the football infrastructure is lacking. I have some sympathy with that especially the Category 1 bit. Sporting Directors in this country have a mixed record but yeah don't disagree, especially the Category 1 bit., Although Brentford do rely quite heavily but not exclusively on data- yet I bet some of their successful foreign signings in recent times were not even on our radar. Nothing at all to stop him pumping in loads more into the academy should he so choose and that would benefit us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, frenchred said: New owners don't mean instant success, I never ever said this, what new owners can do is eradicate the mistakes continually made over lansdowns tenure, they don't need to throw bad money after bad as done during lansdown tenure and they can start by putting football people in the important positions again not done under lansdowns tenure and have a fully functioning, accountable board of directors, again no done during lansdowns tenure. Not asking for or expecting instant results just signs of a functioning club showing progress Okay that's clearer then. I think SL's tenure has been a mixed bag tbh and giving Pearson time and backing as far as financial figures allow seems the way forward-if he is looking to sell- could be a nice parting gift. Both to keep the ship afloat now and steadily build in the coming years- on the pitch and off it. Walsh? An obvious link but wonder what he's doing now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 57 minutes ago, frenchred said: New owners don't mean instant success, I never ever said this, what new owners can do is eradicate the mistakes continually made over lansdowns tenure, they don't need to throw bad money after bad as done during lansdown tenure and they can start by putting football people in the important positions again not done under lansdowns tenure and have a fully functioning, accountable board of directors, again no done during lansdowns tenure. Not asking for or expecting instant results just signs of a functioning club showing progress Good challenge from Mr Pop initially , and good answer in response. 54 minutes ago, tin said: While there's no quick fix, SL could easily upgrade the academy to Cat 1 status and employ a DOF/Sporting Director to implement a proper scouting network that integrates with all the data the numbercrunching interns process at the training ground. For all the investment in tangible assets, the football infrastructure is lacking. As is this? It is these things that turn us from perceived well-run club to a well-run club, rather than a large invested club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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