Millwall at home match day thread

[Northern Red]

3 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

Papering over cracks for 45 minutes changes absolutely nothing for me. 

You carry on if you’re happy with what’s been served up for the past 2 years. 

 

Bless.

You must be gutted.

[prankerd]

2 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

Papering over cracks for 45 minutes changes absolutely nothing for me. 

You carry on if you’re happy with what’s been served up for the past 2 years. 

 

Yes im very happy 3 points and one step closer to mid table consolidation..

Only a plastic fan that supports the team when were successful is unhappy at winning a game 3-2

[joe jordans teeth]

2 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

Papering over cracks for 45 minutes changes absolutely nothing for me. 

You carry on if you’re happy with what’s been served up for the past 2 years. 

 

What in the hell do you expect,we have next to no money to spend and he’s stuck with rank average players thanks to previous managers

[Malago]

2 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

Papering over cracks for 45 minutes changes absolutely nothing for me. 

You carry on if you’re happy with what’s been served up for the past 2 years. 

 

Always look in the bright side of life, dado, dado, dado dado dado

[winsaw]

Thought we started well got our goal but then seamed to totally lose our way for 30mins, lots any tempo and energy we had, thankfully the changes at half time made a difference and we where the better side in the second half some better decision making in front of goal could have easily see us get 5 today over all the better side definitely won 

[Bs4Red]

1 minute ago, prankerd said:

Yes im very happy 3 points and one step closer to mid table consolidation..

Only a plastic fan that supports the team when were successful is unhappy at winning a game 3-2

I’m happy we’ve won. I didn’t say I was unhappy. But the football hasn’t changed. 

I’m allowed to be unhappy with what I watch and still happy we won

[Bodiesaffer]

Good battle, Great come back.

[samo II]

39 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Your'e not moaning anymore.  Bristol City 3 moaning negative bedwetters OTIB 0 

Will admit to looking at things at 2-1 down and not being confident we could get back into it; happy to be wrong.

Encouraging thing being a lot of young players playing today who didn’t let the scoreline get them down, so while it can be up and down sticking with youth, decent showing from them today.

Hope we can build on it and string some results together now. 

[Dodgy_Giefer]

First half was terrible. We can’t turn up for a stroll in the park against anyone, let alone Millwall. Second half much better. Massengo gave us the bite we were missing. Hats off to Afobe, what a class guy. Millwall don’t deserve him but that oooohhhh thing is great for shutting down opposition fans so we should adopt it. I also liked that they had some conductors/hype men in their crowd keeping it going. Praise the lord for Weimann!

[steviestevieneville]

1 hour ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Atkinson probably didn't give Teacher an apple or something as equally ridiculous. 

This agenda you have with Pearson is honestly pathetic. Another one that makes things up about a bad atmosphere in the squad. 

[Selred]

2 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

I’m happy we’ve won. I didn’t say I was unhappy. But the football hasn’t changed. 

I’m allowed to be unhappy with what I watch and still happy we won

Today was SO much better than some of the crap we’ve played. We scored 3 goals. We haven’t previously struggled to have a shot on target in other games!

[Kodjias Wrist]

1 hour ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Yeah and we have conceded 2 goals. Can anyone see us scoring 3 goals today? 

[Numero Uno]

2 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

I’m happy we’ve won. I didn’t say I was unhappy. But the football hasn’t changed. 

I’m allowed to be unhappy with what I watch and still happy we won

The problem with the likes of you is when we play well and lose it’s all “no excuses” bollocks but when we get 3 points you are full of ******* excuses for it. Go to bed for an hour and get over your disappointment…..

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Selred said:

Today was SO much better than some of the crap we’ve played. We scored 3 goals. We haven’t previously struggled to have a shot on target in other games!

Last two games have been a breath of fresh air football wise so anyone saying same old is either blind or is simply a computer room critic.

[Fuber]

12 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

Papering over cracks for 45 minutes changes absolutely nothing for me. 

You carry on if you’re happy with what’s been served up for the past 2 years. 

 

We all know the cracks are there. Nothing's being covered up.

This club is up shit creek without a paddle with regards to FFP because of MA, SL, and LJ.

We're arguably one of the more favoured sides pre season for relegation outside of points deduction.

We have no money to spend.

Who would you bring in, exactly? - What would you do?

Edited January 2, 2022 by Fuber

[Jacki]

Much, much better second half. We just have to play fast, attacking football. When we get the ball in and around the opposition area with power and pace we’re just so much more effective and we did that superbly in the second half, just as we did at times v QPR. We aren’t great defensively so we may as well just get at teams. 

If we could play with that kind of intent in both halves it would be a lot better for my heart rate…. 

[Offside]

After a fairly bright start we were poor in the first half and Millwall looked much the better side. 

The half time changes were needed and our second half performance was really positive. 

Credit to Weimann for his hat-trick. Well deserved for the work he puts in.

I also thought Pring was superb. 

Great atmosphere in the second half. It was fantastic to see us come from behind to get the win. 

[steviestevieneville]

16 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

I’m happy we’ve won. I didn’t say I was unhappy. But the football hasn’t changed. 

I’m allowed to be unhappy with what I watch and still happy we won

The football hasn’t changed ! It’s chalk & cheese compared to a couple of months ago . 

[keflav]

I've just calmed down and taken my blood pressure tablets... Great battling performance in the second half what an impact HNM had on the game and well played Andi for finishing off the chances... Good to get the winning feeling again. But we really do need the level of second half performance more often, thought towler looked way out of his depth (unfortunately) need to get the players all playing and cut out the silly mistakes... Papering over cracks maybe to a degree but a much better level of performance in the last 2 games...

[Northern Red]

46 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

And, to cheer us up even more, Baggies have just equalised v Cardiff.

Ended 1-1. WBA finished with 10 men after Mowatt was sent off, then were denied what looked a stonewall pen in the dying seconds. Ref then immediately blew for full time, WBA boss raced on to confront him and in the ensuing melee Flint and Sam Johnstone were both shown red cards.

[fanjita]

I know it doesn’t make a jot of difference now but wasn’t the penalty against the “rules” now? I thought the run up and taking the kick had to be one continuous movement, not the case here, Afobe stoped  just prior to the kick.

 

[Numero Uno]

6 minutes ago, keflav said:

I've just calmed down and taken my blood pressure tablets... Great battling performance in the second half what an impact HNM had on the game and well played Andi for finishing off the chances... Good to get the winning feeling again. But we really do need the level of second half performance more often, thought towler looked way out of his depth (unfortunately) need to get the players all playing and cut out the silly mistakes... Papering over cracks maybe to a degree but a much better level of performance in the last 2 games...

So did Scott when he got hooked after half an hour earlier in the season but he’s a starter now. Young un’s take different timescales for the penny to drop.

[Slack]

What was that chant? Absolutely hilarious oooooooo

 

[keflav]

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

So did Scott when he got hooked after half an hour earlier in the season but he’s a starter now. Young un’s take different timescales for the penny to drop.

Yeah maybe must has been tough just being thrown in the deep end and no doubt he will learn from it

[Bedred31]

3 points- absolutely precious, as this is assuredly a relegation scrap. Brilliant comeback and result. Good to win at home as well. Well done NP and the team. 

[Out of his pie crust]

Loves a winner like that ….. goalmouth scramble then into the net. Yeah we might not be as high up the league as some expect but if you were there last 2 games and first half of today and was there when that went in today I guarantee you’d have properly enjoyed it. Limbs

[Garland-sweden]

We played well vs QPR and second half today. Now we have players who moves the ball and themselves. Happy to see a structure when we play. This win was important and well deserved, we have many young players who still will be better. Compare to last season think we can have Hope for our Club. Williams soon fit and many players gets better and better. For me Weimann since long is one of our best players. Sooner or later his hard work give results, his 3 goals today shows it.  Funny that our topscorers get sticks, last season Fam and this season Weimann. We have to accept that most games last season and this its Been difficault to be a fw in Bristol City. Our team have not been Good enough to play creative football. Last two games have been better and that makes Hope for the future. COYR 

[steviestevieneville]

22 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Ah, the good old conspiracy posts have now started. 

There's no agenda, however cant stop you believing in one. 

I'm not a subscriber to the cult of Pearson that exists here. Not every must be good irrespective because he's Nigel Pearson, it's a big fallacy. 

I'm quite happy providing views based on situations as they come up. 

Pleased we got a win in the end, however we're generally crap, there's lots of on filed and apparently off field issues given personnel selected. 

That may not be good enough for you, however we've now got multi millions of pounds worth of players now not deemed 'good enough' or dont 'play by the rules' despite them having played hundreds and possibly thousands of Championship games between them, causing further depreciation when we're already skint. 

I cant also help that this appears to be the dying embers of a manager who is rapidly losing the plot,  a la GJs final months Scattergun selections, poor tactical set ups, players vanishing to never be heard of again and the rest of it. 

You may disagree, as is your right to do so.

But I'll quite happily have my views, cheers. 

 

The conspiracy is all you . Again another one mentioning off field issues . You have made that up . How many ex players have to state what good man manager he is.  You’re entitled to a opinion of course but don’t make things up . This don’t play by the rules statement , that’s lies. He actually said the rules apply to everyone . Meaning , even though he’s captain he’ll be dropped if not performing , which he wasn’t.

Also if you can’t grasp that we’ve had major problems caused by the previous recruitment policy them I’m lost for words. Pearson has inherited a bloody mess. If you’re looking for a conspiracy theorist have a good look in the mirror . 

Edited January 2, 2022 by steviestevieneville

[Maltshoveller]

19 minutes ago, fanjita said:

I know it doesn’t make a jot of difference now but wasn’t the penalty against the “rules” now? I thought the run up and taking the kick had to be one continuous movement, not the case here, Afobe stoped  just prior to the kick.

 

Nothing in the rules to say a player can not stop in the run up 

[RedM]

1 hour ago, billywedlock said:

A very hard worked win, great application for such a young side. Never gave up despite a few negative moments . Tried to play better football , not so long ball, trying to pass. Yes it still needs much work, but we are building and going in the right direction. Well done everyone, well done the fans at the ground you kept the positive support going despite the set backs. 

Exactly. The youngsters are being appreciated by the fans who have more patience with them than say Wells and Palmer. Yes they are work in progress and there will be some mistakes whilst they are learning but they have been a breath of fresh air compared with the stale football we have previously witnessed.

I don’t think we will go down this season and playoffs aren’t going to be for us either, but if we can bed in these youngsters further maybe, just maybe, we can ‘hit the ground running’ next season. After all that’s what they have been telling us for years.

[RedM]

4 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said:

Nothing in the rules to say a player can not stop in the run up 

I thought it had to be all in one move, or similar wording to that?

[joe jordans teeth]

26 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Ah, the good old conspiracy posts have now started. 

There's no agenda, however cant stop you believing in one. 

I'm not a subscriber to the cult of Pearson that exists here. Not every must be good irrespective because he's Nigel Pearson, it's a big fallacy. 

I'm quite happy providing views based on situations as they come up. 

Pleased we got a win in the end, however we're generally crap, there's lots of on filed and apparently off field issues given personnel selected. 

That may not be good enough for you, however we've now got multi millions of pounds worth of players now not deemed 'good enough' or dont 'play by the rules' despite them having played hundreds and possibly thousands of Championship games between them, causing further depreciation when we're already skint. 

I cant also help that this appears to be the dying embers of a manager who is rapidly losing the plot,  a la GJs final months Scattergun selections, poor tactical set ups, players vanishing to never be heard of again and the rest of it. 

You may disagree, as is your right to do so.

But I'll quite happily have my views, cheers. 

 

There is no cult here,just realism that at this moment in time he is the right manager to keep us up and with what he has to work with,anybody who thought we would be pressuring the playoffs either hasn’t watched or played football 

[Maltshoveller]

1 minute ago, RedM said:

I thought it had to be all in one move, or similar wording to that?

My sure they changed that rule the same time as they changed the rule allowing the keeper to along his line

I may be wrong (you dont see that wrote on here very often!!)

[maxjak]

2 hours ago, Bedred31 said:

Think Kalas having a decent game - he could be decent consistently with a solid partner! 

We seriously miss  Baker

[maxjak]

2 hours ago, Son of Fred said:

One of several clearly not able to survive at Championship level...

I have my doubts that his level is even league one.

Ha!...........that is all

[Midlands Robin]

Watched the first half on Sky and then had to go out so missed the second half. 

In the first half we really struggled to find space around the park. Millwall pressed us hard. I feel sorry for Towler as he struggled against a tough, experienced team. Perhaps this wasn't the game to throw him in for. He's going to need an arm around his shoulder.

Make no mistake though, this was a massive 3 points.

Not every match is the same but at our current points per game ratio (1.2) we are set to finish on 55 points. 

COYR

[BUTOR]

Loved the dolman giving it back to them. Been a good atmosphere last couple games. 

[E.G.Red]

17 minutes ago, RedM said:

I thought it had to be all in one move, or similar wording to that?

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick

[WolfOfWestStreet]

1 hour ago, Bs4Red said:

I’m happy we’ve won. I didn’t say I was unhappy. But the football hasn’t changed. 

I’m allowed to be unhappy with what I watch and still happy we won

If you go (which I will wager you don't) to football for the "artistry" then you're following the wrong club. 

If you were there today and been part of the limbs in the EE when Andi smashed the winner, that's football my friend. ******* ecstacy not X's and O's.

[Robin101]

Doncaster go from being 3-0 up at HT to losing 4-3 at Morecambe. 

There is always somebody worse off than you, as a football fan.

[ChippenhamRed]

Loved the second half today. A proper game of football. My boy’s 11 now, been coming since 2018 and we’ve had so little to get excited about in that time. We’re not there every week but that was by far the most he’s enjoyed a game.

[cityexile]

6 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick

Interesting, allowed in the run up, but not allowed to feint that you are taking your shot.

Things you learn. Never knowingly ever seen this one applied I think

”Additional time is allowed for a penalty kick to be taken and completed at the end of each half of the match or extra time. When additional time is allowed, the penalty kick is completed when, after the kick has been taken, the ball stops moving, goes out of play, is played by any player (including the kicker) other than the defending goalkeeper, or the referee stops play for an offence by the kicker or the kicker's team.”

You get a penalty kick in the last second. Ref says he is allowing extra time for the kick; same rules as a penalty shoot out. Penalty is saved but scored on the re bound, ref correctly disallows it. Not sure many fans would follow that.

Equally, I have seen once players go to half time straight from a successful penalty kick, with no restart. I guess the same rule was being applied.

[myol'man]

Anyone else thinks this team needs a captain? 

No nonsense tough guy to lead the kids

[ExiledAjax]

1 minute ago, myol'man said:

Anyone else thinks this team needs a captain? 

No nonsense tough guy to lead the kids

Who captained today?

[Sir Colby-Tit]

3 hours ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Yeah and we have conceded 2 goals. Can anyone see us scoring 3 goals today? 

Well, this is awkward 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, tin said:

And that counter attack sums up Semenyo. Weimann tells him to hold his run to stay onside so that AS has a clear run in on goal. He doesn’t look, doesn’t get it, and gets flagged offside. That should be 4-2. Great opportunity spurned and AW rightly has a go at him.

I thought he was onside and just needed a quick pass which Weimann opted against and took the ball to the right, it’s about being clinical and passing it straight away.  

16 minutes ago, Sir Colby-Tit said:

Well, this is awkward 

Shouldn’t be conceding 2 at home, makes it difficult  there I said it 

[Midred]

54 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Who captained today?

James.

[tin]

46 minutes ago, LoyalRed said:

I thought he was onside and just needed a quick pass which Weimann opted against and took the ball to the right, it’s about being clinical and passing it straight away.  

Shouldn’t be conceding 2 at home, makes it difficult  there I said it 

The pass wasn’t on as Semenyo was in an offside position. That’s why Weimann held onto it IMO

[redseptember]

3 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

What reception did Afobe get (apart from the penalty of course!!)?

He made it clear he wasn’t going to celebrate after his goal and then did a kind of half apology to the South Stand. Got a fair bit of applause from those around me.  Thought that was nice touch all round. He’s a classy guy, although he did get booked for dissent in second half!

[E.G.Red]

1 minute ago, redseptember said:

He made it clear he wasn’t going to celebrate after his goal and then did a kind of half apology to the South Stand. Got a fair bit of applause from those around me.  Thought that was nice touch all round. He’s a classy guy, although he did get booked for dissent in second half!

Also nice to see our players such as Kalas and Max make a point of going up to him at the end of the match.

[ChippenhamRed]

BBC report on our match included this line:

“A third straight away defeat for Millwall saw them miss the chance to gain ground on the top six and build on Wednesday's win at Coventry.”

[Bodiesaffer]

Max has made a big difference to the way we’ve played last two games.  Finally we have a Keeper who’s good with the ball at his feet.

[Sleepy1968]

14 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

BBC report on our match included this line:

“A third straight away defeat for Millwall saw them miss the chance to gain ground on the top six and build on Wednesday's win at Coventry.”

Get that 'reporter' a job at Bristol Live.

Edited January 2, 2022 by Sleepy1968

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

6 hours ago, dREDful said:

I don't like this one bit. Think we need to score 3 today to get anything looking at that backline.

 

And so it was

[Kodjias Wrist]

2 hours ago, Sir Colby-Tit said:

Well, this is awkward 

Is it?

[pillred]

10 hours ago, bexhill reds said:

3 points closer to 50 and that’s the only goal this season as far as I’m concerned.

interesting on how NP handles Towler now, 2 mistakes, 2 goals and then hooked off after 45 mins, should they have kept him playing senior football at Grimsby? Is he allowed back out on loan again, or can a player only play for 2 teams in any one season?

We won't need anything like 50, 45 tops, but yes it will be good to get at least that many points, reckon we will have a half decent last 10 games as this side develops.

[Davefevs]

11 hours ago, billywedlock said:

We are going to win this one. Would be great for the reverse melt down on here. A Melt up is it ? 

I said on OSIB WhatsApp group at h-t I could see us scoring, it’s whether we could avoid conceding ourselves.  I didn’t think Millwall were all that first half, and that it was our own sloppy play that cost us the goals.

[Davefevs]

Got to say if you don’t like watching the game, just read the MDT…..some great posts over 27 pages.

@And Its Smith - yes, we got the 1 out of 2 wins we wanted…phew!

@Sheltons Army - HNY to you, seen you post a couple of times…hope you’re well.

 

[ExiledAjax]

14 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

@And Its Smith - yes, we got the 1 out of 2 wins we wanted…phew!

Yeh I thought of that post as well. Ppg up to 1.2 from 1.17 before QPR. UP THE ****ING LEAGUE WE GO!

[Sheltons Army]

11 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Got to say if you don’t like watching the game, just read the MDT…..some great posts over 27 pages.

@And Its Smith - yes, we got the 1 out of 2 wins we wanted…phew!

@Sheltons Army - HNY to you, seen you post a couple of times…hope you’re well.

 

Thankyou Fevs

Last 18 months has been ***** and ridiculously difficult for you with Joe I can only imagine

 

btw My apologies to Ian on FBC , I remembered this morning that it wasn’t Atkinson he suggested playing up front......

 

it was actually Robbie Cundy , which I found ‘interesting’ as he’s a centre half who is nowhere near first team as yet , and who many of us have not seen kick a ball , 

But hey , chuck him up,front ‘He’s 6’3’.      

[CiderJar]

Wow! This Millwall fan is heavily sedated, you may want to listen to him at double speed. 

 

Edited January 3, 2022 by CiderJar

[sh1t_ref_again]

9 minutes ago, CiderJar said:

Wow! This Millwall fan is heavily sedated, you may want to listen to him at double speed. 

 

Gave up listening after 30 seconds, bored and falling asleep

[CiderJar]

2 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Gave up listening after 30 seconds, bored and falling asleep

Yeah, me too, and then I saw he goes on for nearly half an hour

[Ska Junkie]

The roller coater analogy was 'different, 'the game was like dropping your phone and someone puking in your face'. Nice! 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Very much enjoyed that game Sunday- quite a few positives though a couple of points of concern too of course.

1. Weimann hattrick- well deserved, don't get the criticisms he gets on here at times- very important for us.
2. Massengo- great impact 2nd half. Was that his 1st assist? Key pass for the goal too but he was very good.
3. The youth- 7 starters at this level, that's pretty exceptional for us.
4. Atmosphere- 2nd half very good, and I particularly enjoyed the spontaneous mocking of Millwall after the 2nd goal, 3rd goal and on full time!
5. Knowing that this isn't even necessarily our full strength side/18- we have quality and quantity still to return from injury.
6. Just real character to win like that- Millwall were a bit depleted but look at their side a lot of Championship experience and Rowett sides can be very hard to break down once they get ahead. Felt a big win for us that.

On the well not negative side, but slight constructive criticism- 7 from our academy starting is great but I question the balance a bit- yes hindsight I know but could Atkinson and Massengo have started? Towler may well come good but it's far too early to say either way and he's got next to no experience at this level. On a similar note, James can't do it all himself- just wonder if James but then Weimann, Semenyo, O'Dowda, Scott and Benarous was quite right- of the young players who regularly feature (not including Towler as his inclusion was a surprise to me) Benarous has talent, he's probably the least ready thusfar.