22A Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I heard on Thursday's news that Chester City are in trouble. They play in the English pyramid system and had fans watching their games over the Christmas / New Year period. The Welsh Assembly has now announced that the majority of the Diva Stadium is in Wales and under their rules spectators are not permitted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) You can argue as to whether Welsh government taking a sensible stance or not, but if Google Maps is correct, seems odd if Chester didn’t realise they were hosting matches in Wales (white line being the border). Edited January 8, 2022 by The Swan and Cemetery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 The land itself being in both countries is surely an interesting one? Would be very harsh if they were penalised in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, P'head Red said: The land itself being in both countries is surely an interesting one? Would be very harsh if they were penalised in my opinion. Maybe there’ll be a stand off in the car park between Cheshire Police and Heddlu Gogledd Cymru. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: You can argue as to whether Welsh government taking a sensible stance or not, but if Google Maps is correct, seems odd if Chester didn’t realise they were hosting matches in Wales (white line being the border). Whilst the pitch is in Wales, the overall "site" is clearly in both countries, so it's an interesting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 8, 2022 Admin Share Posted January 8, 2022 The turnstiles are in England but the ground is in Wales Though surely someone would have clarified the situation in advance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bs3 Posted January 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2022 Chester is an English team , which plays in an English league with the majority of their supporters living in England . The ground is partly in Wales so the sensible and pragmatic approach would be allow Chester follows the UK guidelines on Covid however Mark Drakeford the First Minister of Wales is an absolute bell end . 17 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Bring back Sealand Road,you can wave to Wales from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Is it welsh or english that police it? Surely the answer tells you which country it is in? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: You can argue as to whether Welsh government taking a sensible stance or not, but if Google Maps is correct, seems odd if Chester didn’t realise they were hosting matches in Wales (white line being the border). That looks ideal if they were hosting the s*gs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: Is it welsh or english that police it? Surely the answer tells you which country it is in? English police. Land even owned by an English Council. They can’t even claim financial support from Sport Wales because they are an English club. Welsh authorities did not raise this issue when there was similar difference in covid rules in Dec 2020. Seems a waste of public money for them to do so now. BBC article here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59920281 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Shouldn't he be more concerned as to why welsh clubs play in an english league? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 In believe In 2020 an event in the stadium car park had to be cancelled due to toilets being in Wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I think they should start a crowdfunding thing to build a temporary stand in the car park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, The turtle said: In believe In 2020 an event in the stadium car park had to be cancelled due to toilets being in Wales Correct. The local theatre wanted to run a drive in cinema on the car park during lockdown in October 2020, which was allowed under English restrictions, however the toilets in the stadium are situated in Wales which didn't permit outdoor cinemas at the time. It did go ahead in the end but they had to reduce the number of cars allowed and use space in the car park to put in temporary portaloos. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, bs3 said: Chester is an English team , which plays in an English league with the majority of their supporters living in England . The ground is partly in Wales so the sensible and pragmatic approach would be allow Chester follows the UK guidelines on Covid however Mark Drakeford the First Minister of Wales is an absolute bell end . Sorry I may have missed the point here but you seem to be saying that the English FA or teams within the English FA should be able to ignore laws (if it's law)? The rules have been made (by a bellend - I grant you that) and must be followed and if they aren't should be enforced by the correct authorities - the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 More importantly, can anyone see an image of Brian May in the lotus position on the pitch? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Up the Chester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 6 hours ago, bs3 said: Chester is an English team , which plays in an English league with the majority of their supporters living in England . The ground is partly in Wales so the sensible and pragmatic approach would be allow Chester follows the UK guidelines on Covid however Mark Drakeford the First Minister of Wales is an absolute bell end . Not sure that over rules law though does it? It’s a tough one to call. They had the same problem with the drive through cinema so it should have st least been on their radar that it may be an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said: More importantly, can anyone see an image of Brian May in the lotus position on the pitch? I was interested to see the icon suggesting they serve champagne cocktails in that little tin shack attached to the stadium. Gurt posh up Cheshire way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, The turtle said: In believe In 2020 an event in the stadium car park had to be cancelled due to toilets being in Wales Someone should make up a song about that: "Always shit on the Welsh side of the border. Because that's where the toilets are. Please make an orderly queue." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 What complicates things further is that, whilst Cheshire West council own the ground and issue the safety certificate, business rates are paid to Flintshire council, who also issue the premises licence and at the last couple of games the Blues Bar at the ground has operated under Welsh laws - rule of 6, table service, no standing etc. It's also impossible to access the ground directly from Wales, unless you come along the river path, cross some fields and jump over a hedge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Apparently, they can play on the pitch to an empty stadium (Welsh rules) but beam the game to a large screen in the car park (English rules)..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: Apparently, they can play on the pitch to an empty stadium (Welsh rules) but beam the game to a large screen in the car park (English rules)..... I really hope they do put a screen in the car park if they have to go behind closed doors, just to highlight the absurdity of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) Problem solved . Border moved – Lookers Vauxhall Stadium now completely in England Chester Football Club are delighted to announce we have reached an agreement in principle with the relevant bodies to have the Lookers Vauxhall Stadium’s surrounding area to be re-designated. The boundary is now entirely within English sovereignty. This move has been agreed with the English Heritage and Cheshire West Council. CEO Mark Maguire said: “We have every respect for our Welsh neighbours. “However, we are proud of our Cestrian traditions and have proudly sat on the border throughout our existence. “We believe this bold and innovative move helps to re-establish the clubs identity and we are grateful for the cooperation of all the relevant bodies.” https://www.chesterfc.com/2017/04/01/border-moved-lookers-vauxhall-stadium-now-completely-in-england/ Edited January 10, 2022 by PHILINFRANCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Sanity broke out in the end. Why the Welsh didn't just say nothing god only knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, The Bard said: Sanity broke out in the end. Why the Welsh didn't just say nothing god only knows. Has a solution been agreed ? Edited January 10, 2022 by bcfc01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Garlandinho Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I 2 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Has there been a solution agreed ? There has been no agreement yet. Matter is completely bonkers, Chester have never had access to welsh govt support and rich of them raise this dispute now. I doubt they were even aware and was probably highlighted to them by a busybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, O'Garlandinho said: I There has been no agreement yet. Matter is completely bonkers, Chester have never had access to welsh govt support and rich of them raise this dispute now. I doubt they were even aware and was probably highlighted to them by a busybody. A Wrexham supporting journo with too much time on his hands, to be precise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, The Bard said: Sanity broke out in the end. Why the Welsh didn't just say nothing god only knows. 48 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Has a solution been agreed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 quid pro quo. Bit of land in Horfield we can let the Welshies have. It won't be as high a quality of course ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: April Fool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 11, 2022 Admin Share Posted January 11, 2022 Chester have postponed this Saturdays fixture as this hasn't been resolved yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Buys them a bit of time. The next home game after Saturday isn't until 5th Feb and I think the hope is that Welsh restrictions on crowds will have been lifted by that point so there'd be no immediate issues. Scotland have announced today that crowds there can return from Monday. They do need to resolve it long term though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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