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Just now, BCFC Richard said:

Obviously the highlight for us today. If he can get his finishing to be more consistently like that what a player we'll have. Looked confident from the start and can't wait to see him against cardiff.

He has all the attributes to be a top player. Let's hope he can realise his potential.

Will he look back on a career that matches Adame Traore.... Or turn out to be a Kevin Betsy...?

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2 good goals, the 2nd in particular showing his strengths.

He's been a slightly better player overall since he came back into the side.

Got to keep playing him there. Real handful for anyone when he brings his game together.

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1 minute ago, BCFC Richard said:

Obviously the highlight for us today. If he can get his finishing to be more consistently like that what a player we'll have. Looked confident from the start and can't wait to see him against cardiff.

Think we all know he’s a proper handful with his pace and abilities,of course some will slag him off about his finishing sometimes but then it will improve with time,would much rather have him at our club than the likes of Palmer and Wells

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I’m happy to eat humble pie here. Semenyo’s finishing was different gravy today against arguably the best team in the league. I thought his finishing was his weakest attribute. It appears I was wrong and I hope it gives him the confidence to kick on now.

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7 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

We look a better team with him in it, that's the main thing for me.

Agree. His return from injury has been a big factor in our improved attacking displays recently. Both goals were excellent. The defenders couldn’t live with his approach play and then the finishes were class. 

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1 minute ago, tin said:

I’m happy to eat humble pie here. Semenyo’s finishing was different gravy today against arguably the best team in the league. I thought his finishing was his weakest attribute. I was wrong.

Good to hear, he could be some player if he can score consistently. You could say there’s a high grade spine of youth in our team that could push us forward once they’ve gained experience amd consistency. 

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The second goal was an absolutely sensational one, being fouled but too strong & determined.

No wonder coaches talk about pace & power being vital.

Only 22 this week, 3 in his last two away games, he looks on the verge of a massive breakthrough to me.

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Semenyo is our Jamie Vardy. I’ve been saying for a while it is very clear that Pearson has a way he wants to replicate, but has had to go about it this season so far without key players due to injuries. 
 

James was a miss today, Williams coming back will help. Baker would help too, but we are building a side from our academy with a few seasoned pros, the idea is to just keep clear of a relegation scrap and hope this is the start of the Semenyo era. Hopefully he’s a late bloomer in front of goal like the lad at Everton

 

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8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Today is another example of why I advocate playing him centrally.

Boy, this we miss Chris Martin though.....on defensive corners!!

Especially if Vyner is at the back - Atkinson would have been a better choice and I fully expect him to be in the team at Vyners expense against Cardiff. At least, I hope so.

On topic, Semenyo is starting to look the real deal with his power and pace. Commentators on the stream I watched (a Fulham stream) were saying he is someone they'd like to see at Fulham. 

Semenyo's 2nd goal showed his power in holding off the defender by veering toward him to keep him at arms distance from the ball, then outpacing him and firing in a lovely finish, hitting the inside of the far post. Brilliant goal which he started on the half way line.

He's full of confidence and I'm really looking forward to seeing him against Cardiff.

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12 minutes ago, tin said:

I’m happy to eat humble pie here. Semenyo’s finishing was different gravy today against arguably the best team in the league. I thought his finishing was his weakest attribute. It appears I was wrong and I hope it gives him the confidence to kick on now.

You don't have to eat humble pie.  The likelihood is he'll still have games where he snatches at chances and screws shots wide or slashes them over the bar.  Thats not different to a lot of strikers.  But at 22, his other attributes mean that even with a lesser goal return he's still very key to us.  No other player in our squad (very few in the league) roll a physical tackle, spin, outpace the covering midfielder and score with aplomb like he did today.

If today is a genuine unblocking of his goal constipation then I may have to revisit my thoughts on where his ceiling is!

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One swallow doesn't make a summer regarding his finishing, but even without the goals today his general impact on the team has made him well worth his place.

Hope he kicks on and has gained some confidence from today. Two fantastic goals... That second in particular, wow. Picked the ball up in our half, out muscled defenders, out ran them, finished from the edge of the box off the inside of the post. Brilliant!

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16 minutes ago, tin said:

I’m happy to eat humble pie here. Semenyo’s finishing was different gravy today against arguably the best team in the league. I thought his finishing was his weakest attribute. It appears I was wrong and I hope it gives him the confidence to kick on now.

I think that Semenyo's issue was his lack of composure rather than his finishing - he looked ok in the vids of training but it fell apart when it mattered. He seems to have got over that issue judging from the last few games - not so many wild shots. Today will give him a lot of confidence and if he can keep up this form he's going to have a lot of clubs after him.

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34 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

He has all the attributes to be a top player. Let's hope he can realise his potential.

Will he look back on a career that matches Adame Traore.... Or turn out to be a Kevin Betsy...?

What an oddly specific thing to say - what does this mean?

24 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said:

If he could has a run of finishing like that he will be gone. 

Why do we always have to talk about players leaving? It was the same with Scott the other week.

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8 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Especially if Vyner is at the back - Atkinson would have been a better choice and I fully expect him to be in the team at Vyners expense against Cardiff. At least, I hope so.

On topic, Semenyo is starting to look the real deal with his power and pace. Commentators on the stream I watched (a Fulham stream) were saying he is someone they'd like to see at Fulham. 

Semenyo's 2nd goal showed his power in holding off the defender by veering toward him to keep him at arms distance from the ball, then outpacing him and firing in a lovely finish, hitting the inside of the far post. Brilliant goal which he started on the half way line.

He's full of confidence and I'm really looking forward to seeing him against Cardiff.

I listened to that, too.

**** me, they were irritating, weren’t they?

Trying to claim O’Dowda dived to win one free kick when the obnoxious Harry Wilson resembles Tom Daley in that regard.

Thought Mitrovic was harshly penalised for the only foul given against him too ??

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19 minutes ago, shelts said:

I’d love to see him get to double figures for the season . He’s capable . Prefer him to Martin as he has pace and power . He could save the club a few quid 

Or earn a few quid

11 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What an oddly specific thing to say - what does this mean?

Why do we always have to talk about players leaving? It was the same with Scott the other week.

Because we are up the creek without a paddle 

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His return has been a turning point for us this season and is also why we don’t need a striker this window. Amazing how so many wrote him off and claimed he couldn’t score goals. Not all strikers need to score 20+ a season to be effective.

I think it’s worth remembering as well that until this season he’s not had a run of games as a striker for us. Yes his finishing needs to improve but he’s still young and will get better. He contributes so much when he plays though. He’s decent back to goal, has pace and power and creates chances. We are a different side when he plays and far more fluid going forward. 

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47 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

He’s nothing like Kevin Betsy! Weird comparison 

Kevin Betsy came with alot of promise, had all the attributes a pro footballer should possess physically - but was Shite! 

Let's hope you're right - and he's is nothing like Betsy in a year or 2's time. 

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22 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What an oddly specific thing to say - what does this mean?

Why do we always have to talk about players leaving? It was the same with Scott the other week.

What do you think it means..?! 

Will he go on to be a top championship player, makes an impact in the PL, with his pace & power..... Or will he flatter to deceive and fail at the required level and dissappear into oblivion..? 

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6 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Kevin Betsy came with alot of promise, had all the attributes a pro footballer should possess physically - but was Shite! 

Let's hope you're right - and he's is nothing like Betsy in a year or 2's time. 

Betsy was 29 when he joined and had played for many clubs. Was an out and out winger. Weird conparison 

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30 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

You don't have to eat humble pie.  The likelihood is he'll still have games where he snatches at chances and screws shots wide or slashes them over the bar.  Thats not different to a lot of strikers.  But at 22, his other attributes mean that even with a lesser goal return he's still very key to us.  No other player in our squad (very few in the league) roll a physical tackle, spin, outpace the covering midfielder and score with aplomb like he did today.

If today is a genuine unblocking of his goal constipation then I may have to revisit my thoughts on where his ceiling is!

I said on another thread that having seen the two goals that Semenyo scored reminded me of a young Romelu Lukaku. He has the same strength, power and best of all pace and double figures this campaign is a distinct possibility, assuming he stay fit and gets regular starts.

His confidence will now be sky high and should he start banging them in he’ll attract interest from clubs higher up the food chain.

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14 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I said on another thread that having seen the two goals that Semenyo scored reminded me of a young Romelu Lukaku. He has the same strength, power and best of all pace and double figures this campaign is a distinct possibility, assuming he stay fit and gets regular starts.

His confidence will now be sky high and should he start banging them in he’ll attract interest from clubs higher up the food chain.

Someone on twitter said the second was like Ronaldo (the Brazilian one) and I could see that in the goal.

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1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said:

He has all the attributes to be a top player. Let's hope he can realise his potential.

Will he look back on a career that matches Adame Traore.... Or turn out to be a Kevin Betsy...?

Kevin Betsy is a bizarre comparison. Plus Antoine is currently playing as a striker not a winger. It’s clear that he has all the attributes to be a top player at this level. If he can improve his finishing then who knows how far he can go.

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People say there isn't a Pearson effect but for me there is today semenyo looked class but he had something about when he was on loan at Newport but Pearson gives the players confidence and semenyos stepped up a gear those with the talent will shine under his guidance just like Scott and the other younger players they will only get better.

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1 hour ago, IAmNick said:

One swallow doesn't make a summer regarding his finishing, but even without the goals today his general impact on the team has made him well worth his place.

Hope he kicks on and has gained some confidence from today. Two fantastic goals... That second in particular, wow. Picked the ball up in our half, out muscled defenders, out ran them, finished from the edge of the box off the inside of the post. Brilliant!

Great post.

What made me optimistic was the difference in his first touch when he got back in the side, suddenly the ball was sticking & when it does & someone as strong & quick runs at you, happy days..

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12 minutes ago, Street red said:

People say there isn't a Pearson effect but for me there is today semenyo looked class but he had something about when he was on loan at Newport but Pearson gives the players confidence and semenyos stepped up a gear those with the talent will shine under his guidance just like Scott and the other younger players they will only get better.

Semenyo’s goals today were outstanding. I’m sure he must be being watched/tracked by a number of clubs high up the food chain. Pace, power, strength and technique. Unplayable at times. If he can gain some consistency we are looking at a prem club offering £ 15/20M +.

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8 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Semenyo's finishes today were out if this world. Given previous, beyond comprehension.

Unfortunately one swallow does not a summer make.  He is not nor ever was the future.

I'd love him to make me eat my words. He won't.

Give the lad a break. Done well today.

Confidence is key. Let’s build that.

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2 hours ago, IAmNick said:

One swallow doesn't make a summer regarding his finishing, but even without the goals today his general impact on the team has made him well worth his place.

Hope he kicks on and has gained some confidence from today. Two fantastic goals... That second in particular, wow. Picked the ball up in our half, out muscled defenders, out ran them, finished from the edge of the box off the inside of the post. Brilliant!

I honestly don’t think it is one swallow we are looking at. It is a player who has been improving season on season but - like a lot of young forwards and wingers - needs time to adjust to this level, which means that you end up watching a lot of false starts and frustrating misses as he finds his feet but that there is going to be a moment where it clicks and that has been on the verge of happening ever since he came back from injury.

There will still be ups and downs and gaps in consistency but I am confident what we saw today was not a flash in the pan but a guy who has the ability showing he is starting to figure out how to use it.

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15 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Semenyo's finishes today were out if this world. Given previous, beyond comprehension.

Unfortunately one swallow does not a summer make.  He is not nor ever was the future.

I'd love him to make me eat my words. He won't.

Glad you’ve written off a player who turned 22 this week, and has for the first time in his career here started more than 2 consecutive games as a centre forward!

How’s “flappy” doing btw? ?

C’mon, give the lad a chance.

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38 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Semenyo's finishes today were out if this world. Given previous, beyond comprehension.

Unfortunately one swallow does not a summer make.  He is not nor ever was the future.

I'd love him to make me eat my words. He won't.

Are you not going to give him a childish nickname?

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42 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Semenyo's finishes today were out if this world. Given previous, beyond comprehension.

Unfortunately one swallow does not a summer make.  He is not nor ever was the future.

I'd love him to make me eat my words. He won't.

Christ imagine just turning 22 having scored 2 fantastic goals against the best team in the league and reading this negative crap... We might as well give up completely with this attitude.

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4 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Christ imagine just turning 22 having scored 2 fantastic goals against the best team in the league and reading this negative crap... We might as well give up completely with this attitude.

Fortunately AS won’t read this sort of shite.

I wish I had such a certain view of the future, I’d have made so much money that I’d have stopped working years ago..

Can certainly see why Palace were interested in him now.

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29 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Fortunately AS won’t read this sort of shite.

I wish I had such a certain view of the future, I’d have made so much money that I’d have stopped working years ago..

Can certainly see why Palace were interested in him now.

Dosent matter to this expert who has written Semenyo off.

A lot could see he's like a firework just needs that spark. BTRFTG thinks he's a cut above with his opinions on,well everything.

Semenyo is young enough to get near the top . IMHO.

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3 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What an oddly specific thing to say - what does this mean?

Why do we always have to talk about players leaving? It was the same with Scott the other week.

Because they always break our hearts Phil. It’s a way of preparing ourselves. ? 

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Semenyo is a talented player and will be the next to leave us for decent money. Some of his performances for Newport when he was just 18 showed what ability he has.

He has pace, power and running ability and they are not things you can coach. A higher team will take a punt on him in the next 18 months.

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1 hour ago, YGBjammy said:

It wasn't just that he scored two today; it's the way he scored them. Looked like a player on another level for both goals. Let's hope he has a cracking 2nd half of the season ?

I remember thinking the same when he scored a similar goal at Millwall last season. It wasn't the start of an amazing scoring streak. Unfortunately I think the odds are that today will be a one-off great day, as that was last season. 

AS has pace and power but I'm not sure he will ever be a consistent goal scorer. Great to have someone in the team though that can be exciting to watch on his day. 

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12 hours ago, Davefevs said:

You don't have to eat humble pie.  The likelihood is he'll still have games where he snatches at chances and screws shots wide or slashes them over the bar.  Thats not different to a lot of strikers.  But at 22, his other attributes mean that even with a lesser goal return he's still very key to us.  No other player in our squad (very few in the league) roll a physical tackle, spin, outpace the covering midfielder and score with aplomb like he did today.

If today is a genuine unblocking of his goal constipation then I may have to revisit my thoughts on where his ceiling is!

"Unblocking of goal constipation " 

Made i laaaaff

Fingers crossed the subsequent cascade of pebbles will be scattered all over Cardiff's 18 yard box next Saturday. Get the spade ready Mr Groundsman

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13 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

Betsy was 29 when he joined and had played for many clubs. Was an out and out winger. Weird conparison 

Now who's being overly specific..! 

He had the attributes and came with big hopes and made very little impact. 

OK... Marvin Brown then. Does that make you slightly less stressed...? 

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13 hours ago, Taylor10 said:

Kevin Betsy is a bizarre comparison. Plus Antoine is currently playing as a striker not a winger. It’s clear that he has all the attributes to be a top player at this level. If he can improve his finishing then who knows how far he can go.

Another one who wants to spend a Saturday evening stressing at how Kevin Betsy was a different type of player to AS...!

I didn't say they were similar players. I said that both had all the physical attributes to excel at the required level and KB was one who didn't make the most of that. 

1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

Why does Semenyo have to be compared with only black players ?!

OMG! Seriously...?! 

Thankfully, that hadn't even come into my consideration. 

 

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I don't think he will ever have that, cool , calm killer instant in the box. He has strength , power and deceptive pace. I hope he relaxes into the role as he plays more and feels more confident. Being 2 footed is a massive bonus, but in the past he has seemed to get excited which caused his shooting to be less than accurate . That's the difference between training and games, easy to be clm when there's nothing on it , in games that killer instinct is a big plus for strikers. Yesterday would have given him confidence, I hope to see much more now.

On a side note, this is the sort of forward line I have been wanting for some time. Martin has done a job, but having pace and most of all movement up front makes us a better side. 

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24 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Another one who wants to spend a Saturday evening stressing at how Kevin Betsy was a different type of player to AS...!

I didn't say they were similar players. I said that both had all the physical attributes to excel at the required level and KB was one who didn't make the most of that. 

OMG! Seriously...?! 

Thankfully, that hadn't even come into my consideration. 

 

Certainly no stressing on my part….generally on a forum these things are said to engage debate, hence why I commented. It was an interesting comparison so I don’t get why you are getting so defensive about it why people respond to it. Relax fella ?

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41 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Another one who wants to spend a Saturday evening stressing at how Kevin Betsy was a different type of player to AS...!

I didn't say they were similar players. I said that both had all the physical attributes to excel at the required level and KB was one who didn't make the most of that. 

OMG! Seriously...?! 

Thankfully, that hadn't even come into my consideration. 

 

I see it all the time with black player comparisons.  I think it’s an unconscious thing for most. 

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11 hours ago, stephenkibby. said:

Dosent matter to this expert who has written Semenyo off.

A lot could see he's like a firework just needs that spark. BTRFTG thinks he's a cut above with his opinions on,well everything.

Semenyo is young enough to get near the top . IMHO.

For me it is a vivid demonstration of how much high level sports performance is driven by confidence. When we were losing at home, we all expected to lose (so did the players). Opponents would score and the whole team seemed to think “oh well, that’s that then”. You do wonder how much of “x or y player doesn’t even try” is down to this. The flipside is, if you score a couple of crackers against a very good team, you MAY start to believe you are capable of anything. I sure hope so. 

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Have always said once he can start scoring he’d be off to the prem and not to a crap team either like a Watford or Burnley. He’s the right build, has great strength, is quick and has power in his shots too. Best of all he’s young and English. If he can get in to double figures this season and Alex Scott can carry on as he is. They could both be the answers to our financial problems. Which had we not been in I’d be praying for us to keep them and build a team around them but with things as they are, we’re desperate for some big fees. These 2 could very well put us back in the clear, or close to it at least. I’m sure lansdown and co are thinking the same. 

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42 minutes ago, Negan said:

Have always said once he can start scoring he’d be off to the prem and not to a crap team either like a Watford or Burnley. He’s the right build, has great strength, is quick and has power in his shots too. Best of all he’s young and English. If he can get in to double figures this season and Alex Scott can carry on as he is. They could both be the answers to our financial problems. Which had we not been in I’d be praying for us to keep them and build a team around them but with things as they are, we’re desperate for some big fees. These 2 could very well put us back in the clear, or close to it at least. I’m sure lansdown and co are thinking the same. 

Yes, I'm sure they're thinking the same thing. Trouble is that we'd then be without them. Develop potential and then sell once they get any good ain't going to get is to the Prem anytime soon.

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