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Timm Klose - SIGNING CONFIRMED


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16 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Not sure he's played a match for about 2 1/2 years?

According to Transfermarkt (ignoring cup appearances):

21/22 (so far): Without Club

20/21: 28 appearances for FC Basel in the Swiss Super League (full season = 36 games)

19/20: 7 appearances for Norwich in the Prem

18/19: 31 appearances for Norwich in the Championship

 

Looking at the minutes he's played, most of his appearances in 20/21 and 19/20 look like full 90's. 18/19 season slightly less so (approximately 23 "full 90's" worth of minutes)

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1 hour ago, Supersonic Robin said:

According to Transfermarkt (ignoring cup appearances):

21/22 (so far): Without Club

20/21: 28 appearances for FC Basel in the Swiss Super League (full season = 36 games)

19/20: 7 appearances for Norwich in the Prem

18/19: 31 appearances for Norwich in the Championship

 

Looking at the minutes he's played, most of his appearances in 20/21 and 19/20 look like full 90's. 18/19 season slightly less so (approximately 23 "full 90's" worth of minutes)

Ah you're right, that's good news. For some reason whoscored and Wiki were both showing him not having played since 7 matches in 19/20!

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1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said:

He has been training with us. 

Very popular player at Norwich.

Prior to training with us, I doubt he was sitting on his ass waiting for a club to call. He will have been doing fitness work with a PT or a specialised football fitness coach. 
Just how quick he can get up to match fitness is the question. 

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Just now, The Bard said:

Unrealistic wage expectations?

I would imagine that it's more a case of he felt he could still play at a top level and the right deal didn't present itself. 

This has been the case with many 'free agents' recently. Other examples would include players such as Hal Robson-Kanu who is still available, which again I would guess is because they don't wish to take their final contract in a poor division. If Klose signs here, he has a good opportunity to play each week, in one of the most competitive divisions in world football. 

As @Kid in the Riot mentioned, Klose was hugely popular during his time at Norwich, and was apparently brilliant in the dressing room and with the fans. 

I have a Norwich supporting mate based in Bristol, who follows them up and down the country, home and away every week. He was very complimentary about Klose. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

He has been training with us. 

Very popular player at Norwich.

Interesting.

Also a very decent player. Sounds like this has got legs then, maybe a contract until the end of the season with an option for an extension? Bit like when we signed Ashley Williams.

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6 minutes ago, Taz said:

Interesting.

Also a very decent player. Sounds like this has got legs then, maybe a contract until the end of the season with an option for an extension? Bit like when we signed Ashley Williams.

That’s exactly how I see it, plus the Baker factor of course.

If we discount Baker, then of the central defenders we have available only Kalas can be considered as experienced. If he is missing then Vyner (24 & with around 100 games at this level) becomes our senior defender & I don’t think we can take that risk.

33 isn’t that old for a central defender, Ashley Williams took some flak on here but he was 35 when he played for us & did a steady job.

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38 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

He has been training with us. 

Very popular player at Norwich.

That’s what I was told too this morning.

As per usual, I only hear things 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand, so not ITK, just passing on what I heard.

Perhaps my quip about Robins Uncut being short this week wasn’t that far off the mark.

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3 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

In his day a very good player. Maybe a short deal ( though Jagielka was still doing it at 38)  for this season as it is now clear Baker is not playing again (maybe ever) 

I hope it’s a 6 months plus an option.

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15 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Decent player back in his day but would seem to me another odd signing that the club shouldn't be making. Henriksen, Williams, Brunt, etc etc.

We’ve got no money . A  very good defender at our level is available . Possibly to cover baker for the rest of the season. Who would you get in who’d be a better fit at the moment. 

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12 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

We’ve got no money . A  very good defender at our level is available . Possibly to cover baker for the rest of the season. Who would you get in who’d be a better fit at the moment. 

Is he still a very good defender at our level? I assume there’s a reason he’s been out of English football and with no club at all this season. 
 

BUT as you say, we’re skint. 

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Just now, Rocky said:

Is he still a very good defender at our level? I assume there’s a reason he’s been out of English football and with no club at all this season. 
 

BUT as you say, we’re skint. 

There’s dozens of good players without a club & he could of been holding out for a club in the top flight. He’s only 33 , that’s nothing considering how well players look after themselves these days, especially for a centre half  . He played 30 times for Basel last season 

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5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

The sort of signing I could understand if we were in danger of relegation. We aren’t so what’s the point? We are building over 2 years ish by which point he will be retired.  So much money wasted over the years on players who are here for five minutes.  

Two injuries to central defenders would leave us buggered!  Cover is insurance!

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50 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Decent player back in his day but would seem to me another odd signing that the club shouldn't be making. Henriksen, Williams, Brunt, etc etc.

Agree in principle, but arguably Williams did a job.

There is the ‘this is the type of player we would like to sign or loan’ vision. There is then the practicality of where we are right now. The area we are horribly exposed is CB. An injury to Kalas is not even worth thinking about.

If he is fit enough and judged up for it, it seems to make a lot of sense as insurance. Even if he ends up unused because everyone else stays fit and in form then I would still see the sense of it right now.

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58 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Decent player back in his day but would seem to me another odd signing that the club shouldn't be making. Henriksen, Williams, Brunt, etc etc.

Yep, this is the worry and not in the 3 year plan surely.

But this is the one position I feel we should be looking at experience, so considering the Baker injury this might be a decent stop gap.

4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Rather recall Taylor Moore. We aren’t going down so this signing serves little purpose 

Not on the bus = no chance.

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3 minutes ago, VT05763 said:

Yep, this is the worry and not in the 3 year plan surely.

But this is the one position I feel we should be looking at experience, so considering the Baker injury this might be a decent stop gap.

Not on the bus = no chance.

Didn’t say there was a chance. Would rather Cundy played as well. Spending £100-250k on a 33 year old when we are skint and in no danger of going down is odd. 

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21 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

The sort of signing I could understand if we were in danger of relegation. We aren’t so what’s the point? We are building over 2 years ish by which point he will be retired.  So much money wasted over the years on players who are here for five minutes.  

 

9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Rather recall Taylor Moore. We aren’t going down so this signing serves little purpose 

Normally would agree but if we signed no one, then Kalas got injured in the first game after the window closed, we’d be buggered.

Moore was told this summer he had no future with us, he won’t be back now bar some unforeseen crisis, he isn’t part of our plans.

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3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Didn’t say there was a chance. Would rather Cundy played as well. Spending £100-250k on a 33 year old when we are skint and in no danger of going down is odd. 

He’s completely unproven, alongside Vyner, Atkinson or Pring for an extended spell that’s a big gamble.

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1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

 

Normally would agree but if we signed no one, then Kalas got injured in the first game after the window closed, we’d be buggered.

Moore was told this summer he had no future with us, he won’t be back now bar some unforeseen crisis, he isn’t part of our plans.

We still wouldn’t go down in my opinion so it’s a waste of money 

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1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

Didn’t say there was a chance. Would rather Cundy played as well. Spending £100-250k on a 33 year old when we are skint and in no danger of going down is odd. 

Oh I agree with you and definitely not what we should be doing BUT if it is to happen this is the one position I think we do need the experience.

I would rather we spent nothing at all. Played squad members and youngsters before reassessing in the Summer when we might be able to persuade some players to leave (subject to offers) and then continue with the 3 year plan.

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1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said:

Decent player back in his day but would seem to me another odd signing that the club shouldn't be making. Henriksen, Williams, Brunt, etc etc.

Sorry William's was an excellent signing. Brunt a shocking one. We need to replace Baker urgently 

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11 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

We still wouldn’t go down in my opinion so it’s a waste of money 

I’m a super optimist, so I don’t think so either, but a horrible run of results if Kalas got injured could make it closer than we’d like, especially if Derby keep winning.

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1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

What’s so urgent if we aren’t going down?

I think we need another 20 points before you can start saying we are not going down.

If Kalas got injured that would leave us with Vyner (god help us)  Atkinson (Naive) and the unproven Cundy so i think this makes a lot of sense

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Just now, westonred said:

I think we need another 20 points before you can start saying we are not going down.

If Kalas got injured that would leave us with Vyner (god help us)  Atkinson (Naive) and the unproven Cundy so i think this makes a lot of sense

Definitely don’t need 20 more points. Relegation will be less than 47 points 

17 points from 20 games. We will be fine 

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Just now, And Its Smith said:

Definitely don’t need 20 more points. Relegation will be less than 47 points 

17 points from 20 games. We will be fine 

I hope your right but as you know we can't defend set pieces and leak goals for a pass time, other teams know this and will punish us without any height and experience at the back

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13 minutes ago, westonred said:

I hope your right but as you know we can't defend set pieces and leak goals for a pass time, other teams know this and will punish us without any height and experience at the back

Peterborough reading are worse then us Derby are miles behind, we will be fine

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55 minutes ago, VT05763 said:

Yep, this is the worry and not in the 3 year plan surely.

But this is the one position I feel we should be looking at experience, so considering the Baker injury this might be a decent stop gap.

Not on the bus = no chance.

Here you go with your lies and nonsense again. Taylor Moore being out on loan has nothing to do with him not being “on the bus”

Also, please remember to put “IMO” after every single thing you post. We don’t want to get fact confused with opinion. 

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15 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Peterborough reading are worse then us Derby are miles behind, we will be fine

If we continue as we are and those below us also. 
I don’t think we will go down either but as we all know confidence is key in sport and it only takes three or four bad / unlucky results to start a downward spiral that can be very difficult to halt.

This lad could be on the same wages as Bakoffson thus changing nothing but experience. If he’s fit enough then it looks a sensible decision.

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And if he comes in, looks classy, hasn't cost a mint and contributes around the club people will be saying what a great signing.
I don't think we'll go down either but it'll be nice to go into next season with some momentum. Starting the season on the back of a load of defeats and other teams points deductions can't be great for confidence I suppose.
It's all about value for money.... and trust. Does Nige trust Cundy, Atkinson and Pring if Kalas gets injured? Most definitely not so if in his judgement he's getting a safety net in that's fine by me.

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