joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) What’s happening to the game,it’s a clear handball ,sorry @Son of Fred you are right if you are not watching then you would be confused Edited February 4, 2022 by joe jordans teeth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: What’s happening to the game,it’s a clear handball and no pies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Classic Lee Dixon on commentary. "this will be disallowed". Ref points to the centre spot immediately. Definitely hand ball though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Yea that was weird. Ignoring all the VAR buzzwords he kept the ball under control with his hand. So handball. Accident or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 And there was me thinking that after Man Utd were given their 44th pen since 2019 refs and VAR always favored the "BIG" clubs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 UTD missing mucho sitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Given new law it was correct decision 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Yea that was weird. Ignoring all the VAR buzzwords he kept the ball under control with his hand. So handball. Accident or not. It’s madness,the ball is clearly heading in a different direction before his hand hits it,if them the rules now then it’s shocking 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: and no pies! Similar situation to the Mem when their microwave oven packed in… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: And there was me thinking that after Man Utd were given their 44th pen since 2019 refs and VAR always favored the "BIG" clubs It was pleasantly memorable to see Ronaldo miss one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, Super said: Given new law it was correct decision So they say,but it’s not right,clear hand changes the direction of the ball and they score,at least it hasn’t happened against city yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: It’s madness,the ball is clearly heading in a different direction before his hand hits it,if them the rules now then it’s shocking More VAR controversy…………….……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Similar situation to the Mem when their microwave oven packed in… Cashless tills probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: So they say,but it’s not right,clear hand changes the direction of the ball and they score,at least it hasn’t happened against city yet Yes it definitely a weird rule don't have a problem with it tbh as long as its accidental. Too many last season were getting ruled out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Man United ain’t have shit mind tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Super said: Yes it definitely a weird rule don't have a problem with it tbh as long as its accidental. Too many last season were getting ruled out. Last season your big thumb was offside,this season you can play basketball and create a goal 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: And there was me thinking that after Man Utd were given their 44th pen since 2019 refs and VAR always favored the "BIG" clubs ******* hell, I know that Fernandes is a massive diver but that must be even more than Liverpool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Cashless tills probably An electrical fault. I wonder how much revenue they’ve lost out on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Feel very sorry for united 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: An electrical fault. I wonder how much revenue they’ve lost out on. Players probably instructed to play for extra time so they could recoup the losses in the additional time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) VAR check for a possible penalty after the final whistle. Which raises the question…….Has anyone ever scored a goal after the game has finished? Edited February 4, 2022 by RedLionLad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, RedLionLad said: VAR check for a possible penalty after the final whistle. Which raises the question…….Has anyone ever scored a goal after the final whistle? Yeah. Bruno Fernandes penalty against Brighton. Ref blew for full time but var checked a handball I think it was. Edited February 4, 2022 by The Batman Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: VAR check for a possible penalty after the final whistle. Which raises the question…….Has anyone ever scored a goal after the final whistle? Not possible regarding a goal,a pen decision is different kettle of fish Edited February 4, 2022 by joe jordans teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Not possible See my post above. Brighton v man utd. Ref blew the final whistle ended 2-2. Var checked for a penalty. It was given. Bruno Fernandes scored the penalty. Then ref blew for full time (again) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: and no pies! Ian Wright must have been devastated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 This is the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Batman said: See my post above. Brighton v man utd. Ref blew the final whistle ended 2-2. Var checked for a penalty. It was given. Bruno Fernandes scored the penalty. Then ref blew for full time (again) That why I edited it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: It’s madness,the ball is clearly heading in a different direction before his hand hits it,if them the rules now then it’s shocking To be an offence, handball has always had to be deliberate surely, until they started mucking about with the rules relatively recently. All the stuff about the hand being in an unnatural position was just to help decide whether there was any intent. I’m all for handball being restricted to deliberate cheating, not just accidental contacts. Then it’s just the ref’s honest opinion whether the player deliberately cheated or not. At the moment it still appears goals will be ruled out for accidental handball if the contact puts the ball into the net. So, I presume, if a defender lashes a clearance at an attacker, it will be a goal if it hits the attacker’s chest and goes in, but not if it hits his elbow. That would also be nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: That why I edited it To be honest I thought once the ref blew the whistle to end the game them that was it. Pre var they'd have just argued with the ref for 5 mins on the pitch and the game would have been a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 How can anyone come to a conclusion that that was not a handball - i don’t care who goes through but that’s a shocker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Where's Michael Oliver when they need him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rob k said: How can anyone come to a conclusion that that was not a handball - i don’t care who goes through but that’s a shocker Was it deliberate in your view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob k said: How can anyone come to a conclusion that that was not a handball - i don’t care who goes through but that’s a shocker Under the law its correct though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Leveller said: To be an offence, handball has always had to be deliberate surely, until they started mucking about with the rules relatively recently. All the stuff about the hand being in an unnatural position was just to help decide whether there was any intent. I’m all for handball being restricted to deliberate cheating, not just accidental contacts. Then it’s just the ref’s honest opinion whether the player deliberately cheated or not. At the moment it still appears goals will be ruled out for accidental handball if the contact puts the ball into the net. So, I presume, if a defender lashes a clearance at an attacker, it will be a goal if it hits the attacker’s chest and goes in, but not if it hits his elbow. That would also be nonsense. If the lad had instead of passing it and scored himself it would of been disallowed so it would of been classed as deliberate,what is the bloody difference between a goal and one pass,it’s all nonsense now mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Super said: Under the law its correct though. And the law is better than one penalising any accidental contact of the ball with the arm - the sort of thing that would lead to ludicrous penalties where a ball hits a defenders elbow from behind. You can’t have it both ways - either you need intent or you don’t. My view is that the law was created to prevent cheating, which makes intent crucial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Super said: Under the law its correct though. It may well be - but its just another example of people messing about with the game 4 minutes ago, Leveller said: Was it deliberate in your view? I don’t think 99% of the handballs I’ve seen given are ‘deliberate’ Its either a handball or it’s not - if that goes in from the lob then the goal is disallowed so the rule is ridiculous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, joe jordans teeth said: If the lad had instead of passing it and scored himself it would of been disallowed so it would of been classed as deliberate,what is the bloody difference between a goal and one pass,it’s all nonsense now mate No, it would have been disallowed without intent - which is different. See my other post - I prefer a law that prevents cheating, not accidental advantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, Leveller said: No, it would have been disallowed without intent - which is different. See my other post - I prefer a law that prevents cheating, not accidental advantages. Disallowed is disallowed in my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Disallowed is disallowed in my eyes You haven’t commented on what the law is designed to prevent - cheating or accidents. What if your defender is hit on the elbow by a ball from behind? You’re happy to concede a penalty? If not, why not? What’s the difference? Use some logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 What a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob k said: It may well be - but its just another example of people messing about with the game You're right. This is all we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: What’s happening to the game,it’s a clear handball ,sorry @Son of Fred you are right if you are not watching then you would be confused Wow, you must have assumed everyone is watching the Man Utd game tonight when starting this thread - no mention of any team or game in question until @Maltshoveller added a reply down the thread - the initial replies gave nothing away - it must be a cosy club where everyone ‘in the know’ realises you are posting about Man Utd whilst non members are non plussed ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Pens it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Sam matterface just said man United have only won one of the the last 7 spot kicks,so dramatic,he could of just said they have won one of the last 2 or 52 of the last 63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Wow, you must have assumed everyone is watching the Man Utd game tonight when starting this thread - no mention of any team or game in question until @Maltshoveller added a reply down the thread - the initial replies gave nothing away - it must be a cosy club where everyone ‘in the know’ realises you are posting about Man Utd whilst non members are non plussed ... good point,it’s obviously just me who wouldn’t give a reaction if I didn’t know what a thread was about,if you want to in the cosy club I suggest stop being offended on somebody’s behalf Edited February 4, 2022 by joe jordans teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Quality pens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: good point,it’s obviously just me who wouldn’t give a reaction if I didn’t know what a thread was about,if you want to in the cosy club I suggest stop being offended on somebody’s behalf I would never, ever be offended on somebody’s behalf, I have never done that, I hate that and I would never entertain it - happy Friday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Pretty poor from keepers so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Get in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Hahah out 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 What is it with man u against championship teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I would never, ever be offended on somebody’s behalf, I have never done that, I hate that and I would never entertain it - happy Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, RUSSEL85 said: Hahah out Bet the BBC still try to show their game in the next round.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Why does the ref feel the need to walk up to the keeper before every penalty? Clown! Fair play Boro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just as well someone missed the goal, cos those keepers weren't even close to saving one. Well done 'Boro. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Just as well someone missed the goal, cos those keepers weren't even close to saving one. Well done 'Boro. I thought both keepers were awful. 2 pens went straight under them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Curr Avon Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: What’s happening to the game,it’s a clear handball ,sorry @Son of Fred you are right if you are not watching then you would be confused Not according to the laws of the game, and as they say in Russia, 'toughshitski'. Edited February 4, 2022 by Curr Avon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) To be fair if his arm/hand isn't there in that position, chances are he doesn't get the ball, let alone score. Makes a change for the "little" club to get a decision, but it's a clear handball all day long, regardless of what some technical rule change has been changed. If that's against us tomorrow, then there is a 20 page thread on here complaining about how var should be introduced, and how Pearsons rant at the referee is going to get him in more bother, as well as a touchline ban. Edited February 4, 2022 by Taz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Taz said: To be fair if his arm/hand isn't there in that position, chances are he doesn't get the ball, let alone score. Makes a change for the "little" club to get a decision, but it's a clear handball all day long, regardless of what some technical rule change has been changed. If that's against us tomorrow, then there is a 20 page thread on here complaining about how var should be introduced, and how Pearsons rant at the referee is going to get him in more bother, as well as a touchline ban. And don’t forget Mark Ashton was behind the rule change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: And don’t forget Mark Ashton was behind the rule change Useful for something then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Taz said: To be fair if his arm/hand isn't there in that position, chances are he doesn't get the ball, let alone score. Makes a change for the "little" club to get a decision, but it's a clear handball all day long, regardless of what some technical rule change has been changed. If that's against us tomorrow, then there is a 20 page thread on here complaining about how var should be introduced, and how Pearsons rant at the referee is going to get him in more bother, as well as a touchline ban. If a defender did the same it would be a penalty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsocks Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Ha Ha tough shit could not have happened to nicer team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Taz said: To be fair if his arm/hand isn't there in that position, chances are he doesn't get the ball, let alone score. Makes a change for the "little" club to get a decision, but it's a clear handball all day long, regardless of what some technical rule change has been changed. If that's against us tomorrow, then there is a 20 page thread on here complaining about how var should be introduced, and how Pearsons rant at the referee is going to get him in more bother, as well as a touchline ban. Basically the handball rule has always required intent, and “ball to hand” accidents have never been offences. The controversy arises where an accident leads to an advantage. Free kicks for accidental contact are relatively recent and only introduced to prevent goals. That rule was - in my view- rather unfair and has sensibly been toned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rob k said: If a defender did the same it would be a penalty Not if the ref judged it accidental. Unfortunate a lot of them are cowards and give penalties when an accident gives the defender an advantage (incorrectly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stortfordred Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 9 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Wow, you must have assumed everyone is watching the Man Utd game tonight when starting this thread - no mention of any team or game in question until @Maltshoveller added a reply down the thread - the initial replies gave nothing away - it must be a cosy club where everyone ‘in the know’ realises you are posting about Man Utd whilst non members are non plussed ... Especially when pies are mentioned. Now if it had been prawn sandwiches; us non-club members could have known the thread was about Manchester. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 They got lucky vs Villa in 3rd Round. Bit of karma really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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