Kane Wilson — Confirmed

[Harry]

On 06/02/2022 at 14:55, Harry said:

But yes, Wilson was good. Two fantastic assists. 
Ebou Adams was very good too. 
 

 

 

On 09/02/2022 at 11:36, Harry said:

Yes, I do like Ebou. He’s a very important piece in FGR’s success. 
He can sometimes be a little hit and miss though - specifically concentration/focus-wise. 
For example, last night, he was hardly in the game for the first 30 minutes, but when he did get into the game he started trying things which he really shouldn’t have tried - it was almost a complacency at times. 
But I do like him. FGR will no doubt be in League 1 next season, and if he stays it’ll be interesting to see how he gets on at that level. I think L1 is probably his ceiling. 

 

On 21/03/2022 at 22:16, Harry said:

 
Ebou Adams was his usual industrious self. 
For @Port Said Red’s interest, I thought Adams and Stevenson in the middle really bossed Sarpong-Wiredu, though he did work hard and defended well. 

This thread also contained a number of comments on Ebou Adams. 
I see Cardiff have just picked him up on a freebie. 
I like Ebou. As per my comments above he was a key part of FGR’s success. 
I did want to see how he’d fare at L1 but Cardiff have obviously taken the gamble on him, so I’ll be interested to see how he does. 
It’s about taking as much of an educated gamble as you can on these players - particularly when they are local and available. I wouldn’t have minded Ebou here, as well as Wilson, but Cardiff have stuck their neck out on Ebou and it’ll be good to see how he progresses. 
 

Edit…
Plus Cardiffs need in CM is more than ours, with Pack, Ralls and Vaulks all out of contract. With us having James and Williams under contract it’s probably an area we weren’t prepared to take a gamble on someone like Ebou

Edited May 13, 2022 by Harry

[Davefevs]

Harry - whatever our views on individual players, it is encouraging to see rumours of the likes of Wilson and Sykes.

My over-riding thought re these two names over and above their ability is - pace / energy (not necessarily power).  Something we’ve lacked.

Re Wilson, he’s also played LB / LWB a fair few times too (at Exeter too!).

[Harry]

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Harry - whatever our views on individual players, it is encouraging to see rumours of the likes of Wilson and Sykes.

My over-riding thought re these two names over and above their ability is - pace / energy (not necessarily power).  Something we’ve lacked.

Re Wilson, he’s also played LB / LWB a fair few times too (at Exeter too!).

Agreed. 
Yes, as much as I’m not as hot on Sykes as others, he’s still a decent player and I am happy that we are looking at local young players. Our ideal target market really should be the under 25’s in and around Cheltenham, Forest Green, Newport, Swindon, Oxford, Exeter, Plymouth. 
So it’s good to see the the first 2 rumours of the summer are 22 year olds at FGR and Oxford. 

[formerly known as ivan]

It would be madness if we were not even talking to the league 2 player of the season who is out of contract and plays down the road.

Let’s hope we get this one over the line (based on reputation and nothing else admittedly).

[tin]

On 06/02/2022 at 14:30, Davefevs said:

I’ve got lots of stats for him.

I’m hanging onto them for the mo’ though!

I think @Harrymightve been there yesterday???

He’s on my summer list.  Suspect most Championship clubs are taking a serious look at him.

Time to reveal your charts, Dave?

[chinapig]

1 minute ago, tin said:

Time to reveal your charts, Dave?

They're available ad free to Patreon subscribers.

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, tin said:

Time to reveal your charts, Dave?

3 tweets worth of data.  Not for the feint hearted!

[BLRed]

Regardless of it meaning we end up with two inexperienced 22 year olds at right back, we have to sign this guy. 

[Buckeyed]

In typical City fan mode, I remain convinced he will sign for a bigger team than us. I can see Edwards taking him to Watford.

[AshtonRobin21]

1 minute ago, Buckeyed said:

In typical City fan mode, I remain convinced he will sign for a bigger team than us. I can see Edwards taking him to Watford.

The problem with making the jump to a club like Watford is the sheer competition they have for places. 

Ngakia was considered one of the best young talents in the Prem when he was at West Ham. Then he joined Watford and has ended up playing lots of U23 football as he has Feminia ahead of him. 

Ethan Laird would be a good example during his time at Bournemouth this season. He was a regular for Swansea during his loan spell and was performing well. Then he ends up joining Bournemouth in January and barely featured for the second half of the season. 

We can offer Wilson regular games, something we have proof of in the likes of Semenyo and Scott. Rob Atkinson being another example of stepping up a league and being given a run of games throughout the season. We could also offer Wilson the chance to progress his career. 

At a team such as Watford, it takes one bad patch of form, and suddenly you fade into the background and are playing Under 23's football. 

[Supersonic Robin]

13 minutes ago, Buckeyed said:

In typical City fan mode, I remain convinced he will sign for a bigger team than us. I can see Edwards taking him to Watford.

Do you really consider Watford to be a bigger club than us? More successful in recent years, yes, but bigger?

(Appreciate they're in a far better position to sign players than us regardless of how big/small they are, so just arguing on a technicality here really)

[Merrick's Marvels]

16 minutes ago, Buckeyed said:

In typical City fan mode, I remain convinced he will sign for a bigger team than us. I can see Edwards taking him to Watford.

Not sure Edwards will be in charge of recruitment at Watford.

Given he might not be in charge at all for very long, I'm not sure I'd be rushing to join him if I was Wilson. 

[Davefevs]

Let’s hope we can play on the West Country links that his loans to Exeter and FGR have created, albeit it he is a Brummie.

[Buckeyed]

7 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Do you really consider Watford to be a bigger club than us? More successful in recent years, yes, but bigger?

(Appreciate they're in a far better position to sign players than us regardless of how big/small they are, so just arguing on a technicality here really)

For a 22 year old from Birmingham, I'd certainly think Watford are bigger.

 

[Supersonic Robin]

2 minutes ago, Buckeyed said:

For a 22 year old from Birmingham, I'd certainly think Watford are bigger.

 

Personally don't think he'd see much in it in terms of club size. Obviously they trump us on recent success, but we're probably superior in terms of stadium, fanbase etc.

There's lots of fairly obvious reasons why a player may choose Watford over us at the moment, but I don't imagine one of them being the thought "I'd much rather play for a bigger club like Watford instead of playing for Bristol City". 

[Selred]

47 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Personally don't think he'd see much in it in terms of club size. Obviously they trump us on recent success, but we're probably superior in terms of stadium, fanbase etc.

There's lots of fairly obvious reasons why a player may choose Watford over us at the moment, but I don't imagine one of them being the thought "I'd much rather play for a bigger club like Watford instead of playing for Bristol City". 

Premier League yo-yo club. Higher attendance that is. They are far bigger than us. 

[alexukhc]

2 minutes ago, Selred said:

Premier League yo-yo club. Higher attendance that is. They are far bigger than us. 

Cup finals, history, past and present players, wages, they’re massive compared to us 

[Supersonic Robin]

6 minutes ago, Selred said:

Premier League yo-yo club. Higher attendance that is. They are far bigger than us. 

2 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

Cup finals, history, past and present players, wages, they’re massive compared to us 

 

Wow, seems I'm in a minority on this one then! 

[Lrrr]

1 hour ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Do you really consider Watford to be a bigger club than us? More successful in recent years, yes, but bigger?

(Appreciate they're in a far better position to sign players than us regardless of how big/small they are, so just arguing on a technicality here really)

Easily 

[Jerseybean]

Sounds like we are in the hunt….https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/kane-wilson-forest-bristol-birmingham-7079213

 

[Harry]

9 hours ago, BLRed said:

Regardless of it meaning we end up with two inexperienced 22 year olds at right back, we have to sign this guy. 

This doesn’t bother me at all. 
I’d rather have 2 young bucks fighting it out for the position than some has-been (Simpson), never-was-been (Vyner) or baked-bean (Dasilva) like we had this season. 
If we plan on keeping the wing back role, you need two energetic players to rotate, as it ought to be the position which does the most running. 
Let the 2 young prospects battle it out, but they’ll both get plenty of minutes anyway. 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

This doesn’t bother me at all. 
I’d rather have 2 young bucks fighting it out for the position than some has-been (Simpson), never-was-been (Vyner) or baked-bean (Dasilva) like we had this season. 
If we plan on keeping the wing back role, you need two energetic players to rotate, as it ought to be the position which does the most running. 
Let the 2 young prospects battle it out, but they’ll both get plenty of minutes anyway. 

So would I, but I guess I’m still a bit surprised.

But you’re right, whether it’s 3412 or 4312 (433) WB is a high intensity position.  Who knows, we might even get a cup run this season rather than a 48 gamer.

[cidered abroad]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

This doesn’t bother me at all. 
I’d rather have 2 young bucks fighting it out for the position than some has-been (Simpson), never-was-been (Vyner) or baked-bean (Dasilva) like we had this season. 
If we plan on keeping the wing back role, you need two energetic players to rotate, as it ought to be the position which does the most running. 
Let the 2 young prospects battle it out, but they’ll both get plenty of minutes anyway. 

Perfectly true. How the tactical side of the game has developed.

In my young days, the wingers hugged the touchline and all the hard work was done by half backs and inside forwards. 4-4-2 changed that but now the wing-backs in teams like Man City and Liverpool see so much of the ball that they have to have the athletic strengths of a 100 metre sprinter and the stamina of a long distance runner for the whole game

Those with both abilities end up at top clubs and at our level it will need two pairs for right and left side to share the loads in every game.

If these type of signings become a reality, I see us with a central back three, a couple of midfielders that are there to protect and destroy and hopefully Alex Scott and Weimann to join the wing-backs in creating lightening attacks. 

We could be in for a very interesting season. The word "interesting" could come to mean "Superb"!

Edited May 14, 2022 by cidered abroad

[AshtonRobin21]

It sounds like Forest are interested, but their stance gives us huge leverage in negotiations. 

If they gain promotion, it appears they would move on to different targets instead. Surely that won't give Wilson much confidence in moving there. 

We can offer Wilson regular games now, whilst also being our right back/wing back for years to come. 

FWIW, our situation wouldn't be too dissimilar to that of Middlesbrough's this season. At the start of the season they had Djed Spence and Isaiah Jones battling for the right wing back position. Jones claimed the position, which he looks set to return for years to come, and Middlesbrough look set for a huge transfer fee from selling Spence. Sometimes youth is the way to go. 

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

It sounds like Forest are interested, but their stance gives us huge leverage in negotiations. 

If they gain promotion, it appears they would move on to different targets instead. Surely that won't give Wilson much confidence in moving there. 

We can offer Wilson regular games now, whilst also being our right back/wing back for years to come. 

FWIW, our situation wouldn't be too dissimilar to that of Middlesbrough's this season. At the start of the season they had Djed Spence and Isaiah Jones battling for the right wing back position. Jones claimed the position, which he looks set to return for years to come, and Middlesbrough look set for a huge transfer fee from selling Spence. Sometimes youth is the way to go. 

Coming to us as you say would be with a pretty decent “guarantee” of minutes.

But I suspect other Champ club will be interested and able to say the same.  I don’t expect this one to gain much traction until the playoffs are over.  We’ve spoken to the guy, he’s heard what we’ve had to say, we don’t be the only ones.

[INCRED]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Coming to us as you say would be with a pretty decent “guarantee” of minutes.

But I suspect other Champ club will be interested and able to say the same.  I don’t expect this one to gain much traction until the playoffs are over.  We’ve spoken to the guy, he’s heard what we’ve had to say, we don’t be the only ones.

The advantage we have is that he doesn’t have to relocate. Apparently he is settled where he lives and that may be a significant element in his decision?

[Finley_Smith10]

If this is done soon, right back could be sorted for years to come. Feels like we haven’t had a proper rb for years. 

[swanker]

48 minutes ago, INCRED said:

The advantage we have is that he doesn’t have to relocate. Apparently he is settled where he lives and that may be a significant element in his decision?

A few grand a week will usually sway a persons decision as to where he likes living. 

[Merrick's Marvels]

Well we haven't a cat in hell's chance if Forest are interested. And for all we know, he might be a Birmingham fan. 

So let's not get ahead of ourselves. 

[GrahamC]

10 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Well we haven't a cat in hell's chance if Forest are interested. And for all we know, he might be a Birmingham fan. 

So let's not get ahead of ourselves. 

If Forest go up they will have bigger fish to fry.

Spence, who Warnock inexplicably loaned to them, would definitely be a live target to make a permanent move if they’re a Prem club.

[RedRoss]

1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Well we haven't a cat in hell's chance if Forest are interested. And for all we know, he might be a Birmingham fan. 

So let's not get ahead of ourselves. 

That's the spirit!

[chinapig]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

If Forest go up they will have bigger fish to fry.

Spence, who Warnock inexplicably loaned to them, would definitely be a live target to make a permanent move if they’re a Prem club.

It's been reported that Boro want £17m for him and that his preference is to join Forest if they are promoted despite interest from bigger clubs.

[Roger Red Hat]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

If Forest go up they will have bigger fish to fry.

Spence, who Warnock inexplicably loaned to them, would definitely be a live target to make a permanent move if they’re a Prem club.

Yes, he'll definitely get a plaice in the team.

[Major Isewater]

34 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Yes, he'll definitely get a plaice in the team.

Here we go…

 

[Lanterne Rouge]

1 hour ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Yes, he'll definitely get a plaice in the team.

Would they be interested in COD?

[Engvall’s Splinter]

18 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Do you really consider Watford to be a bigger club than us? More successful in recent years, yes, but bigger?

(Appreciate they're in a far better position to sign players than us regardless of how big/small they are, so just arguing on a technicality here really)

Yes. Bigger. Certainly a better proposition over the last 20/30 years. 

[Major Isewater]

38 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Yes. Bigger. Certainly a better proposition over the last 20/30 years. 

They are , yet another, club of a similar size to us who  have mightily overachieved. 
They show what  can be achieved even without a stadium of 50,000 fans on match day. I would bite your hand off for even half their success since the days of Graham Taylor. 
It’s mainly down to ruthless ambition and a little luck. 

[Clevedon Red]

20 hours ago, Davefevs said:

3 tweets worth of data.  Not for the feint hearted!

Or dyslexic.

[Desso]

1 minute ago, Clevedon Red said:

Or dyslexic.

Another one. Who does he play for?

[Supersonic Robin]

2 hours ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Yes. Bigger. Certainly a better proposition over the last 20/30 years. 

Yeah, wouldn't disagree that they've been a more successful club than us in recent years. I still don't think they're really a "bigger" club than us, though I seem to be in a minority with that! Genuinely surprised that so many people think otherwise though - I didn't think my initial statement was particularly controversial! 

1 hour ago, Major Isewater said:

They are , yet another, club of a similar size to us who  have mightily overachieved. 
They show what  can be achieved even without a stadium of 50,000 fans on match day. I would bite your hand off for even half their success since the days of Graham Taylor. 
It’s mainly down to ruthless ambition and a little luck. 

This is more in line with my thinking. Frustrating that so many clubs fall into that category, unfortunately.

[tin]

1 hour ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Yeah, wouldn't disagree that they've been a more successful club than us in recent years. I still don't think they're really a "bigger" club than us, though I seem to be in a minority with that! Genuinely surprised that so many people think otherwise though - I didn't think my initial statement was particularly controversial! 

This is more in line with my thinking. Frustrating that so many clubs fall into that category, unfortunately.

I’m kind of with you, but I view Watford as a just another club who was a former peer of ours but have left us in their wake over the last 20 *cough cough SL* years. 

Anyway, back to Kane Wilson. Sign him up. 

[Engvall’s Splinter]

1 hour ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Yeah, wouldn't disagree that they've been a more successful club than us in recent years. I still don't think they're really a "bigger" club than us, though I seem to be in a minority with that! Genuinely surprised that so many people think otherwise though - I didn't think my initial statement was particularly controversial! 

This is more in line with my thinking. Frustrating that so many clubs fall into that category, unfortunately.

Outside of Bristol I don’t think we are recognised. 

[archie andrews]

We got more chance getting jocky wilson.... 

[alexukhc]

2 hours ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Outside of Bristol I don’t think we are recognised. 

Sadly something in this…

[Curr Avon]

16 hours ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Yes. Bigger. Certainly a better proposition over the last 20/30 years. 

True. They've had Elton John, and we've had Jilted John.

(Sorry, but I've been up since 6am and that's the best my brain can manage)

Edited May 15, 2022 by Curr Avon

[exAtyeoMax]

On 15/05/2022 at 09:18, Curr Avon said:

True. They've had Elton John, and we've had Jilted John.

(Sorry, but I've been up since 6am and that's the best my brain can manage)

#Gordonisamoron

[Nogbad the Bad]

19 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

#Gordonisamoron

Just what I thought after those penalty misses!

[Nogbad the Bad]

On 15/05/2022 at 09:18, Curr Avon said:

True. They've had Elton John, and we've had Jilted John.

(Sorry, but I've been up since 6am and that's the best my brain can manage)

They had Graham Taylor, we had Ryan Taylor.

They had Luther Blissett, we had Bas Missit.

They had John Barnes, we had Carol Barnes. (at least we might as well have done, surely she'd have been better than Gus Caesar) 

Etc... yep, just a bit bigger than us, and for a very long time.

 

[Sheltons Army]

2 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

#Gordonisamoron

No need to be like that Julie

[exAtyeoMax]

2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

No need to be like that Julie

You calling me cheap? 

[Curr Avon]

2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

They had Graham Taylor, we had Ryan Taylor.

They had Luther Blissett, we had Bas Missit.

They had John Barnes, we had Carol Barnes. (at least we might as well have done, surely she'd have been better than Gus Caesar) 

Etc... yep, just a bit bigger than us, and for a very long time.

 

Dammit Noggers, just cuz you've got a bigger pack of Trumps than me!

I'm off home for me tea and a cry. At least Grange Hill's on the telly.

[exAtyeoMax]

5 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

Dammit Noggers, just cuz you've got a bigger pack of Trumps than me!

I'm off home for me tea and a cry. At least Grange Hill's on the telly.

[Curr Avon]

15 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Did you know?

The Grange Hill theme tune, "Chicken Man" was also used by the ITV gameshow "Give Us A Clue".

Chicken Man (theme tune) - Wikipedia

 

[Davefevs]

18 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Was the sausage on the fork being thrown, or being stolen?  Never worked that out!

[exAtyeoMax]

2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Was the sausage on the fork being thrown, or being stolen?  Never worked that out!

It never made sense to me. Why did they keep the fork in it? I always thought it was being thrown

[Major Isewater]

9 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

It never made sense to me. Why did they keep the fork in it? I always thought it was being thrown

For fork’s sake. 

[Show Me The Money!]

17 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

It never made sense to me. Why did they keep the fork in it? I always thought it was being thrown

Surely this needs its own thread for discussion

[exAtyeoMax]

1 hour ago, Show Me The Money! said:

Surely this needs its own thread for discussion

 

[Nogbad the Bad]

19 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Was the sausage on the fork being thrown, or being stolen?  Never worked that out!

Or why the one on the left has skewered his sausage with his knife and seems to be eating it from that?

[Sheltons Army]

4 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Or why the one on the left has skewered his sausage with his knife and seems to be eating it from that?

It’s definitely banger theft going on

The handless fork is a full on attack and the knife student is trying to hijack student on the rights banger , as student on right is trying to eat his own meal.

 

The mystery is , why has only one kid got a meal 

****** loved Grange Hill 

[Ska Junkie]

6 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

It’s definitely banger theft going on

The handless fork is a full on attack and the knife student is trying to hijack student on the rights banger , as student on right is trying to eat his own meal.

 

The mystery is , why has only one kid got a meal 

****** loved Grange Hill 

If it was banger theft, Grange Hill pupils had 3 sausages, we didn't even get that at St Brendans!

I always thought it was a sausage being nicked not added.

[Tinmans Love Child]

I spoke to a mate of mine who is an FGR fan, he said Wilson is better in attack than in defence, so if we got him and played his as a wing back then ok, if he’s going to be an out and out right back in a back 4, maybe not so good.  That’s all I can add but he said he’s a good prospect

[Lanterne Rouge]

17 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

I spoke to a mate of mine who is an FGR fan, he said Wilson is better in attack than in defence, so if we got him and played his as a wing back then ok, if he’s going to be an out and out right back in a back 4, maybe not so good.  That’s all I can add but he said he’s a good prospect

What`s that got to do with Grange Hill or sausages?

[Sheltons Army]

1 hour ago, Ska Junkie said:

If it was banger theft, Grange Hill pupils had 3 sausages, we didn't even get that at St Brendans!

I always thought it was a sausage being nicked not added.

Hmmmmm

The three sausage portion is a good point ......

 

Maybe it was a buffet !

Edited May 17, 2022 by Sheltons Army

[Tinmans Love Child]

17 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

What`s that got to do with Grange Hill or sausages?

All I know is Grange Hill went to pot when they changed the theme tune!

[Bristol Oil Services]

On 15/05/2022 at 09:18, Curr Avon said:

True. They've had Elton John, and we've had Jilted John.

(Sorry, but I've been up since 6am and that's the best my brain can manage)

Stern John?

Comic sans Jon??

[Curr Avon]

5 hours ago, Show Me The Money! said:

Surely this needs its own thread for discussion

Sorry, but with FFP we can't afford to fork out for one.

[Show Me The Money!]

30 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

Sorry, but with FFP we can't afford to fork out for one.

[Sheltons Army]

2 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

All I know is Grange Hill went to pot when they changed the theme tune!

I think Sammo went a bit harder than pot , TLC

[Port Said Red]

52 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

I think Sammo went a bit harder than pot , TLC

Just Say No...........

 

 

To bangers....