DT The Optimist Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 What’s the future hold for him in Bristol? I recall some years back he delayed signing the contract on the table by the club to see what his options were and nothing materialised from any other club.. here he is still. Perhaps that told a story. I recall him having one great game at Norwich some years back that I was at…and I think that’s about it, when I have left a stadium being really impressed by him. I do not doubt his work rate and effort and comes across in media as nice guy, but there is simply no end product, no goals, few assists, not a defender…not a particular exciting winger. Is it the management who are not getting the best out of him….or is he simply not a championship wide player. My own view is he will be gone in the summer…. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 He’s gotta go. Whether it’s his fault, the clubs fault, whatever, the kid just doesn’t perform on a consistent basis for us. Needs a fresh start elsewhere and if he smashes it then so be it and good luck to him. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Been here nearly 6 years and achieved absolutely **** all. Just completely pointless. Wasted 6 years of his time, and 6 years of ours. Just hasn't worked. Anyone got his stats to hand? There was a stage under LJ that I thought he was going to kick on but never happened. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Gone in the summer I reckon. I don’t think it’s down to coaching, I believe he gives it his all he just doesn’t have the quality. He’s had the chances. He could possibly make a sideways move in the champ or a high end L1 could take him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Premier League Athlete. League two footballer. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 League 1 player. That’s not a criticism by the way. To play a career in League 1 is still a great achievement. But he’s a league 1 player. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Don't worry, Pearson has his number. I just worry that he'll accept the offer made (negotiations were opened a while ago) and we'll have to make do with his mediocrity for another two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FForbes Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: Been here nearly 6 years and achieved absolutely **** all. Just completely pointless. Wasted 6 years of his time, and 6 years of ours. Just hasn't worked. Anyone got his stats to hand? There was a stage under LJ that I thought he was going to kick on but never happened. Started 108 games, sub on 67 times. Scored 10 goals, subbed off 48 times. All competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, FForbes said: Started 108 games, sub on 67 times. Scored 10 goals, subbed off 48 times. All competitions. Wikipedia has him with 7 goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 He’s offered very little return over a long time now. This season sums up his time here, really — one goal and no assists. Hard worker but ineffective. Needs to be moved on and I hope Pring makes COD’s position his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I think he’ll get a new deal on drastically reduced terms. I bloody hope he doesn’t though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 and yet when we were going through a bad patch fans were bemoaning his absence. I think Nigel likes him, but he's not the same player that we signed those years ago and his injury did him no favours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: and yet when we were going through a bad patch fans were bemoaning his absence. I think Nigel likes him, but he's not the same player that we signed those years ago and his injury did him no favours. Ok. I’ll bite. Please find me one post anywhere on otib where anyone has bemoaned the absence of Callum O’Dowda. I’ll allow you the full 6 years he’s been here. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) We bought him relatively cheap and bet on his potential. He obviously hasn’t achieved what we thought he could. I don’t think it would have been considered a failure of a signing, until we resigned him on a much better deal after doing nothing of note. Edited February 6, 2022 by Marcus Aurelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, Marcus Aurelius said: We bought him relatively cheap and bet on his potential. He obviously hasn’t achieved what we thought he could. I don’t think it would have been considered a failure, until we resigned him on a much better deal after doing nothing of note. Sign of those times sadly. Spunk money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Ok. I’ll bite. Please find me one post anywhere on otib where anyone has bemoaned the absence of Callum O’Dowda. I’ll allow you the full 6 years he’s been here. 2017/18, started the season in very good form. Injured in November v Hull, wheels came off us in January, he returned against Millwall in April and many thought he was the missing piece to get us back on the track for the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, cidercity1987 said: 2017/18, started the season in very good form. Injured in November v Hull, wheels came off us in January, he returned against Millwall in April and many thought he was the missing piece to get us back on the track for the play offs. How’d that work out? Nice try, but I was thinking something more time stamped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Need an Anthony Knockaert type winger with a bit of bite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 He's one of the most underwhelming players I can remember playing for us. Right up there with Neil Kilkenny for me. The fact he hasn't aged a day since we signed him is also suspicious - same hairstyle, pedantically clean shaven and hasn't really bulked up either. I'm not entirely convinced he's real, might well be an NPC. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I'm not a fan of O'Dowda, so in trying to be fair/balanced after a few better performances I was trying to convince myself he should stay in Jan and posted as much. He's reverted to type though and I don't think it's unfair to admit I'm pretty done with him. It's hard to say he's not a Championship player as he's played fairly consistently for 5 seasons here now. I think in reality though he's in an awkward spot where he'd probably look pretty good at L1 ala Freeman but will struggle (for us as least) in the Championship to produce much. Lots of "Oh but Leeds/Forest were interested" stuff but nothing has ever materialised, and I'd be surprised if he went somewhere considered an upgrade on us when he leaves. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Back to Oxford would be my bet, or Ipswich, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Been here 6 years. That's approximately half of a footballers entire career, and most fans can only recall a single game that he has significantly impacted (positively) in that time... that says all you need to know! 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: and hasn't really bulked up either I think he has a tremendous, athletic physique…just doesn’t use it. We saw that in evidence twice yesterday, one where he failed to usher the ball out for a goal kick, the other when through on goal and fell over. I think JonD said it was a push in the back. I’ve just d/l the clip, and I can’t see a push at all, just Gabriel using his arms and body as he’s perfectly entitled to, with Callum not trying to give anything back. Wish I could post the video. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 As someone stated on another thread, I'm surprised by how much patience Pearson has shown him. O'Dowda's lack of aggression and commitment seems like exactly the kind of thing that would frustrate Pearson. FWIW I thought O'Dowda was looking improved earlier in the season, but he seems to have reverted to type a bit. If we let him go in summer, I could see him joining another Championship team - he has a strong enough "Championship CV" for it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 For a player to have been at a club for 6 years, usually they tend to be cult heroes to the fan base by that time… But we’re here 6 years later still wondering what we’ve got. That itself is the sad reality of O’Dowda’s time here. We really need to upgrade and move him on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) Most fans don’t rate him. Most managers at club and international level continue to pick him. A weird anomaly really. Are the fans wrong or are all the managers wrong ? I made a similar point when Pearson was appointed and was told ‘Pearson won’t pick him’. Well he does, every game Edited February 6, 2022 by And Its Smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Most fans don’t rate him. Most managers at club and international level continue to pick him. A weird anomaly really. Are the fans wrong or are all the managers wrong ? Not many goals or assists during his long time here. Think the managers got it wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Garland-sweden said: Not many goals or assists during his long time here. Think the managers got it wrong. Every single manager got it wrong?! Football isn’t just about stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Most fans don’t rate him. Most managers at club and international level continue to pick him. A weird anomaly really. Are the fans wrong or are all the managers wrong ? I made a similar point when Pearson was appointed and was told ‘Pearson won’t pick him’. Well he does, every game He's crap and the sooner we get rid the better. He has had no competition for his place since he's been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Most fans don’t rate him. Most managers at club and international level continue to pick him. A weird anomaly really. Are the fans wrong or are all the managers wrong ? I just think he’s “okay”. I don’t think he’s crap, but he is massively frustrating for a player who I don’t think is playing any better than when he joined in summer 2016. His best form was a run in Autumn of 2017, and a period in 18/19 with the odd one-off here and there since. Been many below the level too. When I see a player almost 27, I expect him to occasionally take a game by the scruff of its neck. I sometimes see 45 minutes that give me a bit of hope, but rarely a full 90. This should be peak O’Dowda years. It’s not though. Above is his BC stats. Of course he’s missed games through injury. 108 starts (completed 60 / subbed off 48 times) / 67 sub appearances. An average of 57.76 mins per appearance. A dwindling return of goals and assists over the past 3 seasons. 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ecko said: He's crap and the sooner we get rid the better. He has had no competition for his place since he's been here. In 6 years he’s had no competition? He’s been picked left wing back, left wing, right wing and midfield…..and without competition ? That’s astounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Build a side round him ! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 No more news regarding contract offer, but last talk was some while ago and neither party has suggested further talks. I’m “guessing” that someone may be seeing what they could get elsewhere….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I just think he’s “okay”. I don’t think he’s crap, but he is massively frustrating for a player who I don’t think is playing any better than when he joined in summer 2016. His best form was a run in Autumn of 2017, and a period in 18/19 with the odd one-off here and there since. Been many below the level too. When I see a player almost 27, I expect him to occasionally take a game by the scruff of its neck. I sometimes see 45 minutes that give me a bit of hope, but rarely a full 90. This should be peak O’Dowda years. It’s not though. Above is his BC stats. Of course he’s missed games through injury. 108 starts (completed 60 / subbed off 48 times) / 67 sub appearances. An average of 57.76 mins per appearance. A dwindling return of goals and assists over the past 3 seasons. Played in 5 different positions at the club. That hasn’t helped. I’m not one to go over stats but it is interesting how so many (appreciate not you) say he’s awful and yet he keeps getting picked for club and country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, brad blit said: No more news regarding contract offer, but last talk was some while ago and neither party has suggested further talks. I’m “guessing” that someone may be seeing what they could get elsewhere….. I guess that could apply on both sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, And Its Smith said: Played in 5 different positions at the club. That hasn’t helped. I’m not one to go over stats but it is interesting how so many (appreciate not you) say he’s awful and yet he keeps getting picked for club and country Yeah, he’s not crap. In our current squad he’d always make the 18. I’m a bit worried the promising signs on return from injury have started to trend downwards. Might this be linked to a contract impasse as @brad blitsuggests? I always want all of our players to do well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, DT The Optimist said: What’s the future hold for him in Bristol? I recall some years back he delayed signing the contract on the table by the club to see what his options were and nothing materialised from any other club.. here he is still. Perhaps that told a story. I recall him having one great game at Norwich some years back that I was at…and I think that’s about it, when I have left a stadium being really impressed by him. I do not doubt his work rate and effort and comes across in media as nice guy, but there is simply no end product, no goals, few assists, not a defender…not a particular exciting winger. Is it the management who are not getting the best out of him….or is he simply not a championship wide player. My own view is he will be gone in the summer…. Not so much a 'delay' as stating his belief and ambition. Leeds wanted him, he was going there, that was his level. Problem being Leeds (or anybody else for that matter,) knew nothing about it. The bloke's deluded, he's not remotely a competent footballer, he's a waste of space and as I've harped on for years he should have been thrown out the door years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Bit of Vyner about him. Not quite good enough to hold down his best position, but as a squad player has to play where asked, and as a result often looks weaker. As with Vyner looks to be on the brink of having a Championship career (Vyner at right back, COD less sure, but don’t think LWB), but mentality maybe not quite there. For both maybe now’s the time to be a bigger fish in a League One pond or remain on the edges of Championship squads. Seems odd to conclude that neither are quite up to the Championship given approx 250 games between them, but there it is! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lew-T said: For a player to have been at a club for 6 years, usually they tend to be cult heroes to the fan base by that time… But we’re here 6 years later still wondering what we’ve got. That itself is the sad reality of O’Dowda’s time here. We really need to upgrade and move him on. I think that’s also the sad reality of us as a club too. Take away his effort and energy and he offers us virtually nothing else. Any hopes we had he could realise any potential he’s supposed to have are long gone. I wonder how many other Championship clubs would accept that level of mediocrity for 6 years and still give him so many opportunities, with so little return. Really need to get rid if we’re serious about progressing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I guess that could apply on both sides? Im only aware of one side….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray savino Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 There were times when I started to think he was going to fulfil his promise. Very few times, but nevertheless showed moments of real quality. I think other managers have seen that potential in as much as he’s tall for a wide player, athletic runner physique, decent on the ball technique, a turn of pace, works hard, can be used attacking wise left and cutting in from the right, and can sometimes finish. So he can offer some balance to a side. However, this is when he gets his game together. All the above attributes is what I think managers at BCFC have seen to be what we should want from a wide player. NP I think has chosen him to give us some option of balance on the left to offer some defensive cover alongside an attacking option. As I say all great if on the rare occasions he gets his game together. The biggest problem as I see it is in his head. I think his confidence is shot, he’s stayed here too long and has become stale. He’s no longer a 21 year old with potential and his career has stagnated. I actually think he has decent attributes, but hasn’t developed the mentality to drive on. Seems a bit too nice, and if you compare that to what we’ve seen of Scott and Benerous, he seems to lack that little bit of edge that they have shown in their game. Now needs to move on. Seems a decent lad, good luck to him. If he does find form and comes good for us then I’d be delighted, but time I think to move on and best for both parties. I have a feeling Taylor Moore the same and possibly Zak Vyner. I reckon both could handle themselves but seem a bit too nice sometimes. Both decent technique but have they the mentality to make it consistently at Championship level? At times Zak can look very good but so prone to mistakes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, shelts said: Build a side round him ! Exactly - just as long as that side's not us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Trouble is, although he has the odd game (well more like 45 mins) where he causes the opposition problems. The only consistency with COD is the lack of end product. The stats speak for themselves. This season 1 goal, zero assists. Any decent wide player will at least have a number of assists. We have given him 6 years with very little to show for it, hope we don't consider paying out any more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: Bit of Vyner about him. Not quite good enough to hold down his best position, but as a squad player has to play where asked, and as a result often looks weaker. As with Vyner looks to be on the brink of having a Championship career (Vyner at right back, COD less sure, but don’t think LWB), but mentality maybe not quite there. For both maybe now’s the time to be a bigger fish in a League One pond or remain on the edges of Championship squads. Seems odd to conclude that neither are quite up to the Championship given approx 250 games between them, but there it is! Was trying to think how I could use Vyner as a similar example. Vyner isn’t crap either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: Seems odd to conclude that neither are quite up to the Championship given approx 250 games between them, but there it is! Please let me introduce you to Nicky Hunt. He had 128 Premier League appearances and a further 3 seasons in the championship. Doesn’t stop him being a League 2 player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 i thought CoD played best up through the middle a long time ago. turns back after a run these days,maybe no support but more uncertainty i think. needs a run of good games for confidence but cant get that with the rest of our teams performances over the past few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) He was featured on a documentary series called ‘Phenoms’ before Russia 2018 - essentially about young up and coming players to watch for. Other players featured included Gabriel Jesus, Marquinhos, Paulo Dybala, Ousman Dembele, Leon Gorretxa and Dele Alli - proper players. I always wondered a) why the hell he was on it in the first place and b) whether this appearance gave him some sort of further inflated sense of self importance - that he thought he was at that level. If he really was thought of in some quarters close to him as being at that level then it must be one hell of a comedown for him that’s for sure! Edited February 6, 2022 by lenred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: Most fans don’t rate him. Most managers at club and international level continue to pick him. A weird anomaly really. Are the fans wrong or are all the managers wrong ? I made a similar point when Pearson was appointed and was told ‘Pearson won’t pick him’. Well he does, every game It might be partly down to the fact he’s naturally left sided, is fairly reliable and versatile. In a side where players like Alex Scott, Massengo and Semenyo have really kicked on - he looks pretty pedestrian in comparison. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonburyRed Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 There's no shame in being 'just' a Championship footballer, as there's no shame is us 'just' being a Championship football club (what our neighbours would give for that after all), however, if aspire to compete at the correct end of the table then COD, along with Vyner & Moore, potentially Max etc, may need to be replaced with better than we have. Thing is, historically, players such as the aforementioned are as good as we can hope for, given our status over the past 40 years, so the bigger question is whether SL et al have the ambition to be better than these players. otherwise, we might as well stick with them... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: Played in 5 different positions at the club. That hasn’t helped. I’m not one to go over stats but it is interesting how so many (appreciate not you) say he’s awful and yet he keeps getting picked for club and country To be fair, ireland are pretty awful these days, and any pro playing in the english leagues is likely to play for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo370 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Doesn't head the ball either, which is exacerbating our set piece defending problem as one of our taller players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, brad blit said: No more news regarding contract offer, but last talk was some while ago and neither party has suggested further talks. I’m “guessing” that someone may be seeing what they could get elsewhere….. That someone might be a bit disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Most fans don’t rate him. Most managers at club and international level continue to pick him. A weird anomaly really. Are the fans wrong or are all the managers wrong ? I made a similar point when Pearson was appointed and was told ‘Pearson won’t pick him’. Well he does, every game good point….regularly selected for the Republic Squad, although not a regular starter. Have they really got so few players or…. Do they see something we don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said: good point….regularly selected for the Republic Squad, although not a regular starter. Have they really got so few players or…. Do they see something we don’t. They’re nowhere near as good as Wales & Joe Morrell Is a first teamer for Wales… Edited February 6, 2022 by Fordy62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said: That someone might be a bit disappointed. I’d heard he’d already bought his Ipswich Town PJ’s, duvet and pillow case pack. Fearing a Famara style end-of-contract performance rundown now, but suspect I won’t notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think he has a tremendous, athletic physique…just doesn’t use it. We saw that in evidence twice yesterday, one where he failed to usher the ball out for a goal kick, the other when through on goal and fell over. I think JonD said it was a push in the back. I’ve just d/l the clip, and I can’t see a push at all, just Gabriel using his arms and body as he’s perfectly entitled to, with Callum not trying to give anything back. Wish I could post the video. Whilst I agree with your comments in general about not using his physical attributes enough, I do wonder if that particular incident was a foul. I think the image below from the Bristol Post is the same incident from a better angle, which shows a tug of the shirt and would explain why he fell down so easily. Unfortunately, a clever foul as no official would be able to see the shirt pull. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-verdict-odowda-record-6610485.amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Prime said: Whilst I agree with your comments in general about not using his physical attributes enough, I do wonder if that particular incident was a foul. I think the image below from the Bristol Post is the same incident from a better angle, which shows a tug of the shirt and would explain why he fell down so easily. Unfortunately, a clever foul as no official would be able to see the shirt pull. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-verdict-odowda-record-6610485.amp I did see that photo. Don’t let him get his arm across you in the first place, get yours across his first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 7 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Every single manager got it wrong?! Football isn’t just about stats LJ and Holden got it wrong. We are now short of players and money therefore COD is playing. Its not all about stats in football as you say but COD is not good enough, same with the player who went to Ipswich. Doubt that COD will start vs Reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 O’Dowda has all the attributes to be a top player in terms of he’s athletic, quick, decent in the air & there’s definitely a player in him. However, how many chances can one player get and grown tired like lots of his “potential” transpiring to sub standard performances. He’s no where near as bad as some make out but it’s time for him to be taken out of team and moved on in the summer. Since QPR where he was very good in first 45 mins, every game since has gone around him and that happens too many times for our invisible man. You just know he will go on and be a success elsewhere but happy after years of defending him for us to take that risk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 10 hours ago, Simon bristol said: To be fair, ireland are pretty awful these days, and any pro playing in the english leagues is likely to play for them Yes sadly as someone who’s dad is half Irish I do take more than a passing interest In the Irish national team and their last squad was truly depressing, not withstanding COD it also included the likes of Daryl Horgan, Alan Browne, Will Keane, Josh Cullen and Jack Taylor- all decent pros but all championship standard at best. Being picked for Ireland while is still recognition in itself is not necessarily a barometer for the level of a player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy Red Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Davefevs said: I just think he’s “okay”. I don’t think he’s crap, but he is massively frustrating for a player who I don’t think is playing any better than when he joined in summer 2016. His best form was a run in Autumn of 2017, and a period in 18/19 with the odd one-off here and there since. Been many below the level too. When I see a player almost 27, I expect him to occasionally take a game by the scruff of its neck. I sometimes see 45 minutes that give me a bit of hope, but rarely a full 90. This should be peak O’Dowda years. It’s not though. Above is his BC stats. Of course he’s missed games through injury. 108 starts (completed 60 / subbed off 48 times) / 67 sub appearances. An average of 57.76 mins per appearance. A dwindling return of goals and assists over the past 3 seasons. A very fair summary Dave. For the last 4 years he's been part of a team that has gradually declined and continually sold its best players. Managers have come and gone, formations have changed regularly and he's also suffered his share of injuries. His performances have been underwhelming but the same could be said for a large number of the squad. He didn't cost us a massive fee and i do still believe (maybe stupidly) there is a player in there. He isn't a wing back and that position would suit Pring much better, but he's doing a job and Pearson clearly trusts him (to an extent) unlike Palmer, Wells and even Atkinson etc. I think its maybe time for him to move on in the summer but i wouldn't be surprised if he got himself a decent club and did well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Shuffle said: O’Dowda has all the attributes to be a top player in terms of he’s athletic, quick, decent in the air & there’s definitely a player in him. However, how many chances can one player get and grown tired like lots of his “potential” transpiring to sub standard performances. He’s no where near as bad as some make out but it’s time for him to be taken out of team and moved on in the summer. Since QPR where he was very good in first 45 mins, every game since has gone around him and that happens too many times for our invisible man. You just know he will go on and be a success elsewhere but happy after years of defending him for us to take that risk. Not for the first time, agree 100%. He just hasn’t progressed & although any estimates of wages are really just educated guesswork, I would be confident we could find someone who contributes more for the wages he’s on, probably a bit less. I know there are a few on here with a borderline obsession with Paterson but his goals & assists (another one at the weekend as soon as he returned to the side) are far higher. Best all round if we part ways this summer, I think. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Edgy Red said: A very fair summary Dave. For the last 4 years he's been part of a team that has gradually declined and continually sold its best players. Managers have come and gone, formations have changed regularly and he's also suffered his share of injuries. His performances have been underwhelming but the same could be said for a large number of the squad. He didn't cost us a massive fee and i do still believe (maybe stupidly) there is a player in there. He isn't a wing back and that position would suit Pring much better, but he's doing a job and Pearson clearly trusts him (to an extent) unlike Palmer, Wells and even Atkinson etc. I think its maybe time for him to move on in the summer but i wouldn't be surprised if he got himself a decent club and did well. He may not be a wingback but he ain’t no winger either. How many decent crosses does he get into the box? How many goals has he scored after beating à defender in the box ? We all see what he could be and that’s why after six years at BCFC we are so frustrated with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Not for the first time, agree 100%. He just hasn’t progressed & although any estimates of wages are really just educated guesswork, I would be confident we could find someone who contributes more for the wages he’s on, probably a bit less. I know there are a few on here with a borderline obsession with Paterson but his goals & assists (another one at the weekend as soon as he returned to the side) are far higher. Best all round if we part ways this summer, I think. I don't dislike COD. He's a trier. Rarely gives less than 100%. BUT I've got to agree, Gray. Pato's ability to beat the last defender always exceeded Callum's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 COD's about a 20% bet to win a 50/50. I have no faith in him to tackle, hold opposition players off, control a good pass and get a shot off, or to put a decent cross in more than 30% of the time. It's a no from me Nigel, unless we can't fill that position with someone with better potential - and if we can't, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I posted this on the COD thread in the Transfer Forum This is Callum’s data ranked against all Championship WBs and FBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I posted this on the COD thread in the Transfer Forum This is Callum’s data ranked against all Championship WBs and FBs. So he’s not good when we don’t have the ball, poor at passing and not good at winning challenges. I’m not sure we needed data to tell us that 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedinSpain Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Don't think he is good enough to be a first choice LWB or LM/W at the level we require. I imagine whether he stays or goes will depend on contract negotiations and/or recruitment. NP´s opinion the overriding consideration of course. He may have already decided he is not worth retaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: COD's about a 20% bet to win a 50/50. But he's also 10/90 to ever get into a position tackle. Nobody's taking on that double..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fordy62 Posted February 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2022 I’m trying to find some words to not come across as overly mean, but if FIFA were to have a footballing intelligence score then he’d have to get a zero. I wish him well at wherever he’s playing next season, so long as it isn’t here. Lightweight, no end product and incredibly dangerous decisions - they’re no attributes I look for in a Bristol City player. Missing since Norwich. Soz. 35 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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