headhunter Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I know Kasey is pretty much in the land of the banished but I just read this in Gregor's Bristol World column this morning: https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/bristol-citys-midfield-hit-by-fresh-injury-as-door-opens-for-joe-williams-and-others-3557547 FFS what the hell are they doing to them at the HPC!!! Might lead to an opportunity for Gary Owers son? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Presume he picked it up limbo dancing on a beach somewhere. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, headhunter said: I know Kasey is pretty much in the land of the banished but I just read this in Gregor's Bristol World column this morning: https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/bristol-citys-midfield-hit-by-fresh-injury-as-door-opens-for-joe-williams-and-others-3557547 FFS what the hell are they doing to them at the HPC!!! Might lead to an opportunity for Gary Owers son? Thank heavens our players are more robust these days or we might have an injury crisis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) Does anyone seriously believe this? The bloke is further away from the subs bench than Marina Dolman, even Danny Simpson has made it recently. Can’t see a circumstance where he ever plays for us again. Edited February 7, 2022 by GrahamC 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Thank goodness we brought that elite medical team from Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 He’s had a underlying knee injury basically all season by all accounts. Injured over the summer doing work in the off season. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Up The City! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Thank goodness we brought that elite medical team from Leicester. Haven't our injuries been quite a lot better this season? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromeReds Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 47 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Presume he picked it up limbo dancing on a beach somewhere. Blackpool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 What a surprise… …a sport that is faster than its ever been, has lots of contact, twists, and turns, jumping - might lead to injuries. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) He will be missed. The team will struggle. Edited February 7, 2022 by Sturny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Shame as i thought he was nailed on for player of the season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Does anyone seriously believe this? The bloke is further away from the subs bench than Marina Dolman, even Danny Simpson has made it recently. Can’t see a circumstance where he ever plays for us again. Please. Kasey is a model professional. Model being the operative word. KP45 injured his neck, whilst removing the tailored fit version of next season's fruit salad coloured third shirt, designed by Damien Hirst, for the Hummel Posers Catalogue, which is the real name for the HPC. Edited February 7, 2022 by Curr Avon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, headhunter said: Might lead to an opportunity for Gary Owersson? New scandinavian signing we haven't heard about yet? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, petehinton said: He’s had a underlying knee injury basically all season by all accounts. Injured over the summer doing work in the off season. Stacking shelves at Sainsburys wouldn't do that would it ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, headhunter said: I know Kasey is pretty much in the land of the banished but I just read this in Gregor's Bristol World column this morning: https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/bristol-citys-midfield-hit-by-fresh-injury-as-door-opens-for-joe-williams-and-others-3557547 FFS what the hell are they doing to them at the HPC!!! Might lead to an opportunity for Gary Owers son? Thought Josh played well at Failand recently. Worth a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Thank goodness we brought that elite medical team from Leicester. Absolutely. Otherwise it may of been much worse for us this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 He demanded NP start him, so Nigel kicked him in the knee and told him to bugger off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Davefevs said: What a surprise… …a sport that is faster than its ever been, has lots of contact, twists, and turns, jumping - might lead to injuries. Interesting. With our availability record being so drastically appalling in the last few years I had always assumed we were an anomaly in terms of the wider landscape. Do you know if injuries are mostly up across the board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, VT05763 said: Thank goodness we brought that elite medical team from Leicester. Ironic that all our ex Leicester men have been injured though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 They reckon that a sedentary lifestyle does leave one more open to these types of injury.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, VT05763 said: Thank goodness we brought that elite medical team from Leicester. Have to be due another new account and name change soon, surely? Think this one has run its course. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: New scandinavian signing we haven't heard about yet? Maybe we need some hard Vikings who can defend our goal, he he. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: He demanded NP start him, so Nigel kicked him in the knee and told him to bugger off. The shelf stacking just exacerbated it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) Medical team changed, our dose of bad luck unfortunately didn't. Palmer may be out of the project, but given the amount of injuries we have, Pearson would have been forced to use him sooner or later, so...another problem to add to the long list. Edited February 7, 2022 by Dan Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: What a surprise… …a sport that is faster than its ever been, has lots of contact, twists, and turns, jumping - might lead to injuries. Allowing for a degree of variability would that not tend to lead to a roughly similar number of injuries across clubs over time? Perhaps it's a normal distribution with us consistently at the right hand side of the curve and if so why? I doubt there is sufficient data available to answer that mind you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Super said: Shame as i thought he was nailed on for player of the season. Had my vote. Who do I vote for now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: Interesting. With our availability record being so drastically appalling in the last few years I had always assumed we were an anomaly in terms of the wider landscape. Do you know if injuries are mostly up across the board? No, I don’t. I wasn’t one who subscribed to Andy “Doctor Death” Rolls theories though. it was acknowledged (by Paddy Orme) that they prepared pre-season 20/21 wrong. Injuries happen. Muscle ones are frustrating, reoccurring muscle is even more frustrating. But even though frustrating, the length of injury was the worry last season. This season it’s been a bit better on that front. Joint issues are really difficult to attribute to the medical team. The other thing is how and where do these injuries occur? On the training ground, in a match, somewhere else. We they a result of contact, I.e. a tackle / foul that’s caused a stretch / strain….or sprinting, etc. I think it’s just difficult to lay blame with any confidence….and therefore subjective. Next season, I’m gonna try to track injuries, but it’s too late to start now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, chinapig said: Allowing for a degree of variability would that not tend to lead to a roughly similar number of injuries across clubs over time? Perhaps it's a normal distribution with us consistently at the right hand side of the curve and if so why? I doubt there is sufficient data available to answer that mind you. See above, but yes, your thinking is spot on. I don’t know the answers. It feels worse, it might well be, than other clubs…but we don’t delve into other teams injuries like we do with City. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, I don’t. I wasn’t one who subscribed to Andy “Doctor Death” Rolls theories though. it was acknowledged (by Paddy Orme) that they prepared pre-season 20/21 wrong. Injuries happen. Muscle ones are frustrating, reoccurring muscle is even more frustrating. But even though frustrating, the length of injury was the worry last season. This season it’s been a bit better on that front. Joint issues are really difficult to attribute to the medical team. The other thing is how and where do these injuries occur? On the training ground, in a match, somewhere else. We they a result of contact, I.e. a tackle / foul that’s caused a stretch / strain….or sprinting, etc. I think it’s just difficult to lay blame with any confidence….and therefore subjective. Next season, I’m gonna try to track injuries, but it’s too late to start now. All fair comment. There may be a PR issue in that by saying you are going to reduce injuries by making the players more robust you raise expectations. Better to under promise and over deliver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It feels worse, it might well be, than other clubs…but we don’t delve into other teams injuries like we do with City. You're right of course but were I involved I might look to benchmark our record against other clubs. Again if the data was available. For all I know Rennie does exactly that but it would be interesting to get his take on the current situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 3 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Presume he picked it up limbo dancing on a beach somewhere. I think he tripped over his wallet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 51 minutes ago, supercidered said: I think he tripped over his wallet. Was done trying to wallpaper that suit onto his body for the purple and lime photo shoot, he put his foot into the paste, and twisted his knee trying to walk with it on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Last season was far worse. I'm not sure if some have forgotten how bad our injuries were. Off the top of head, last season: - Williams quad (pre season) / hamstring (rehab) / hamstring (match return) (missed all season) - Walsh quad (pre season) (missed most of the season) - Baker hamstring (pre season match) (missed most of season) - Kalas shoulder match contact / falling (short term) - Mawson knee - stretching / knee trying to save a goal (both long term) - Weimann ACL (match but unopposed) (missed all of season post-Swansea) - Sessegnon hamstring match / hamstring again (missed big chunks of season) - Brunt hamstring training (missed most of 1st half of season - retired) - Paterson Hip (generally got worse) / hip (after comeback) (missed most of last 2/3rds of season) - O’Dowda hamstring match / hamstring match (missed most of second half of season) - Martin hamstring match (???) (missed second half of the season) - Rowe knee match / knee match came back too soon (missed last 1/3rd of season) - Pring hamstring training following return from Portsmouth (missed second half of season) - Jack Hunt played through foot injury in the main - Sam Bell hamstring match (missed last 1/3rd of season) - Dasilva shin splints (missed most of the season) Who have I missed Jon? (and a lot of those were all together). Edited February 7, 2022 by Davefevs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On reflection, I think our injuries have improved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Off the top of head, last season: - Williams quad (pre season) / hamstring (rehab) / hamstring (match return) (missed all season) - Walsh quad (pre season) (missed most of the season) - Baker hamstring (pre season match) (missed most of season) - Kalas shoulder match contact / falling (short term) - Mawson knee - stretching / knee trying to save a goal (both long term) - Weimann ACL (match but unopposed) (missed all of season post-Swansea) - Sessegnon hamstring match / hamstring again (missed big chunks of season) - Brunt hamstring training (missed most of 1st half of season - retired) - Paterson Hip (generally got worse) / hip (after comeback) (missed most of last 2/3rds of season) - O’Dowda hamstring match / hamstring match (missed most of second half of season) - Martin hamstring match (???) (missed second half of the season) - Rowe knee match / knee match came back too soon (missed last 1/3rd of season) - Pring hamstring training following return from Portsmouth (missed second half of season) - Jack Hunt played through foot injury in the main - Sam Bell hamstring match (missed last 1/3rd of season) - Dasilva shin splints (missed most of the season) Who have I missed Jon? (and a lot of those were all together). Watkins was injured again at the end of the season as well, I know there was some cynicism after the training ground rumour but he was said to be injured for the vast majority of it. Adelakun after his loan recall only managed about 4 games & was then out for the season, too. It has been better & in Baker’s particular case was impossible to plan for, but still not great, Tanner, Atkinson, King, James, Semenyo & HNM (far shorter in the latter two cases) have had spells out, with the total number of games missed by the first 4 that still seems a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 5 hours ago, headhunter said: I know Kasey is pretty much in the land of the banished but I just read this in Gregor's Bristol World column this morning: https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/bristol-citys-midfield-hit-by-fresh-injury-as-door-opens-for-joe-williams-and-others-3557547 FFS what the hell are they doing to them at the HPC!!! Might lead to an opportunity for Gary Owers son? That's convenient timing................or am i being unfair? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Super said: Shame as i thought he was nailed on for player of the season. Whos Kasey Palmer 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 From memory Martin got injured around Christmas/New Year then that was him done for the season. Pring would have been around that time too as it was just after he came back off loan. Rowe was a bit later, end of Jan/early Feb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Thanks for filling in the gaps GC and JD. So, we are doing better on the injury front, but more exposed by a smaller squad. Is that fair? Positives (subjective): Martin no recurrence O’Dowda no recurrence Weimann bionic! Pring no recurrence Negatives (subjective): King recurrence Tanner recurrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I have it on good authority KP's knees are 'shot' as a result of how much time he spends on them thanking The Lord for the hugely undeserved riches that continue to fall his way each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 7 hours ago, DaveF said: Haven't our injuries been quite a lot better this season? No! Pearson out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 "Injured" or in order to preserve him for a move lined up in the summer or to the MLS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Davefevs said: So, we are doing better on the injury front, but more exposed by a smaller squad. Is that fair? Better but not much better, because the influence on the team is - unfortunately - quite similar, not helped by our current ressources (probably not enough money to bring in more free agents in case of further injuries). The faster we get the points required for survival, the better is. Edited February 7, 2022 by Dan Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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