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When we had johnson says bounce around the ground, it meant everyone joined in and created a good atmosphere. All fan base would join in. In a big away following you get all types of fans beyond the singing section. Those fans also joined in.

But now, there is a void. We need another song or bring that one back with a different name.

We tried to sing it today and the response from Swans was what the fuxxin hell was that. East East end bounce around doesn't work but maybe that song has been dome to death.

So we need a new one.

When we use to sing bounce around we would get comments from other teams how good our support was.

Today wasn't good collectively even when we were on top in the first half or at the beginning. Very quiet.

of course the half time in the concourse saw a lot of jubilation by 300 or so but the other 1600 don't join in with those songs.

We need a mainstream chant again

Either this post will be considered as a load of bollocks or some will know what I'm trying to say.

Ole ole Bristol City doesn't have the uplift it use to either.

Best uplifting one at the moment which all join in is HNM song.

Other than that there isn't one.

IMO.

 

 

 

 

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Those sort of songs come during good spells at the club. When we’re getting served inconsistent football it’s hard for everyone to get behind the team as one. Not ideal but that’s the reality of football. You can’t force these things, they just happen. 

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10 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said:

Was quiet today though Swansea were loud. wish ashton gate would put the home and away fans next to eacother it makes a hell of a difference 

This is the key. 
We had it when we had big big numbers at Cov as well. 
When the home fans are basically right on top us, it has the effect of stifling songs from our end. If the home fans are loud right next to us, then our chants get drowned out. 
It’ll never happen at AG now - well, at least through the clubs decisions. 
Of course, fans could organise themselves to make the move next to the away sections themselves. A mass of S82 renewing in Dolman A or over in the Lansdown right next to the away fans, would be the only way we can impact this. 

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42 minutes ago, Harry said:

This is the key. 
We had it when we had big big numbers at Cov as well. 
When the home fans are basically right on top us, it has the effect of stifling songs from our end. If the home fans are loud right next to us, then our chants get drowned out. 
It’ll never happen at AG now - well, at least through the clubs decisions. 
Of course, fans could organise themselves to make the move next to the away sections themselves. A mass of S82 renewing in Dolman A or over in the Lansdown right next to the away fans, would be the only way we can impact this. 

You’ve got it spot on 

The Club aren’t interested in atmosphere so the only way to do it is for the fans to do something about it . See the Cardiff game this season and Swansea a couple of years ago for example , atmosphere was great for those games when fans stood in the dolman .

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Agree.  What annoys me is this self righteous attitude that if you don't sing along to this bounce around cringe fest you are in some way less of a fan.

That is often followed by that 'your not singing over there - followed by 'you c*nts' to our own supporters!

 

 

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I thought the City fans sounded in very good voice today, watching Robins tv.

Yes it would be great to have a club anthem, a well known, easy to sing song that everyone enjoyed joining in to. Something like Stoke used to have with Delilah.

I have no music expertise in to what would make a good football song but surely someone on here does!?

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31 minutes ago, AG City said:

Agree.  What annoys me is this self righteous attitude that if you don't sing along to this bounce around cringe fest you are in some way less of a fan.

That is often followed by that 'your not singing over there - followed by 'you c*nts' to our own supporters!

 

 

I don’t think it’s because people don’t join in with those songs (which I find cringe btw) . I think it’s more to do with people just sat down all game at the gate or the people who go away and then sit down all game quiet.

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1 hour ago, Wiltshire robin said:

I don’t think it’s because people don’t join in with those songs (which I find cringe btw) . I think it’s more to do with people just sat down all game at the gate or the people who go away and then sit down all game quiet.

That’s why midweek games tend to be better, especially London ones as we travel well. Far less people sit down midweek, possibly due to different demographic attending. 

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1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

That’s why midweek games tend to be better, especially London ones as we travel well. Far less people sit down midweek, possibly due to different demographic attending. 

Tbh I never noticed that before but thinking about it I completely agree. Reading away this season everyone was pretty much stood up singing but our derby away at Cardiff on the weekend there was loads sat down . 

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2 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

I thought the City fans sounded in very good voice today, watching Robins tv.

Yes it would be great to have a club anthem, a well known, easy to sing song that everyone enjoyed joining in to. Something like Stoke used to have with Delilah.

I have no music expertise in to what would make a good football song but surely someone on here does!?

Yes thats it, club Anthem I am meaning not a mainstream song as I put it

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2 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

I thought the City fans sounded in very good voice today, watching Robins tv.

Yes it would be great to have a club anthem, a well known, easy to sing song that everyone enjoyed joining in to. Something like Stoke used to have with Delilah.

I have no music expertise in to what would make a good football song but surely someone on here does!?

Stoke still bang out Delilah - ‘used to’ is incorrect - we should resurrect ‘Tom Thumb’ we used to bang that one out home and away and it just worked! 

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I think sometimes we might make the mistake of changing a song too much. If you add current players, managers names then it’s got a short shelf life.

Songs like Man City’s Blue Moon, West Ham’s Blowing Bubbles and Stokes Delilah don’t have many words changed they’re just adopted by the club. And my word when everyone is singing them it’s one of English football’s special moments.

To be fair, we do have Drink up Thee Cider, which has been great but loses a bit as it goes on instead of building up into a crescendo of noise. Plus it seems to out of favour compared to 10 or 20 years ago.

 

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7 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Stoke still bang out Delilah - ‘used to’ is incorrect - we should resurrect ‘Tom Thumb’ we used to bang that one out home and away and it just worked! 

True but when I said used to, it’s never even a quarter of what it used to be 20 years ago and into there premier league years. That was deafening, now there’s an occasional half hearted effort.

My wife’s a Stoke fan so I do watch them quite a bit. 

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9 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

I think sometimes we might make the mistake of changing a song too much. If you add current players, managers names then it’s got a short shelf life.

Songs like Man City’s Blue Moon, West Ham’s Blowing Bubbles and Stokes Delilah don’t have many words changed they’re just adopted by the club. And my word when everyone is singing them it’s one of English football’s special moments.

To be fair, we do have Drink up Thee Cider, which has been great but loses a bit as it goes on instead of building up into a crescendo of noise. Plus it seems to out of favour compared to 10 or 20 years ago.

 

It’s sung too quickly - would be far better if it was sung about 20% slower.

9 hours ago, The Wild Bunch said:

Section 82 have sung Tom Thumb at recent games.  Don’t think the younger fans know the tune so it tends to fade out pretty quickly.

It’s a really good one and unique to us, however as you say it’s an incredibly obscure one.

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10 hours ago, Curr Avon said:

To the tune of Yellow Submarine 

Pearson says we are where we are

Are where we are 

Are where we are

Pearson says we are where we are

Are where we are 

Are where we are

(Sing until nauseous or reaching for the fifteenth can of Thatchers)

 

Like it.

Nothing wrong with a bit of self deprecating humour ?

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15 hours ago, Harry said:

This is the key. 
We had it when we had big big numbers at Cov as well. 
When the home fans are basically right on top us, it has the effect of stifling songs from our end. If the home fans are loud right next to us, then our chants get drowned out. 
It’ll never happen at AG now - well, at least through the clubs decisions. 
Of course, fans could organise themselves to make the move next to the away sections themselves. A mass of S82 renewing in Dolman A or over in the Lansdown right next to the away fans, would be the only way we can impact this. 

This absolutely. Fair play to Swansea they were loud most of the game and drowned us out. When they did go quiet for a very short time our fans started to sing is this a library which was embarrassing. Having singers next to the away fans creates the atmosphere and unless we have a big game so the Dolman A fills up our atmosphere is poor. When the away team attack the Atyeo they can really get behind their team and we crumble.

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3 minutes ago, Clint said:

This absolutely. Fair play to Swansea they were loud most of the game and drowned us out. When they did go quiet for a very short time our fans started to sing is this a library which was embarrassing. Having singers next to the away fans creates the atmosphere and unless we have a big game so the Dolman A fills up our atmosphere is poor. When the away team attack the Atyeo they can really get behind their team and we crumble.

The club have facilitated this and enabled it. S82 give it a good go, but the atmosphere would be so much better if they were next to the away fans.

I don’t think the club necessarily want a vociferous AG. They associate it with trouble I think and would rather win awards like ‘family club of the year’ than AG be known to be loud and atmospheric.

I’ve said it time and time again, but the club should’ve organised AG so that away fans were in the corner of Dolman/Lansdown adjacent to the Atyeo which would house our vocal fans.

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There could be a fan led attempt to move some vocal support into Dolman A as well as S82. Probably the only way the atmosphere is going to get better at Ashton gate as the club aren’t interested. It’s not like there isn’t more interested in these type of areas as S82 sells out quickly every year with season tickets.

However from memory these sort of campaigns have fallen flat in the past… the parkenders never really got going. 

There’s also the possibility we’re just a fan base, barring the bigger games, that relies on good football and a little bit of success in order to get up for creating a decent atmosphere. I think people have slightly rose tinted memories at times of some sort of cauldron AG. 

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The difficulty at AG for chants and songs is entirely down to location of those who like to chant. The ‘singing section’ is tucked away in the corner of the SS with poor acoustics whilst the away get the Atyeo with far better acoustics with the roof reflecting the sound out into the stadium. That exactly why just a few away fans can create so much sound.

In an ideal world the home fans would better placed in the Atyeo but A&S police want away fans there for easier access out to Ashton Rd post match. 

For those reasons nothing will happen regardless of what City song is sung

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I remember back during the redevelopment the Atyeo roof was used as a reason that the home fans were quiet.

Also not sure I buy the fact the home fans need to be next to away ones - in fact, lots of traditional "home ends" which create loads of noise aren't.

I think we've just been served up a lot of crap on the pitch for quite a few years now, and it's had an effect. When the football is exciting again (and it's getting there, slowly) the atmosphere will come back as well whatever configuration the fans are stood in.

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The main reason for the lack of noise, not atmosphere, is the dire football we've been served up over recent years. Add to that the club trying to change direction and appeal to a bigger/wider audience of middle income earners and families and you will understand, the reason that those enthusiastic supporters that like to sing and chant, have been pushed from pillar to post since the development of the Atyeo stand and always ended up tucked away in a corner. When that was built season tickets were sold on a first come basis with allocated seating. As a result, the lads that sing and chant, mostly could not afford season tickets and as such, Lansdown and Sextone had achieved their aim in separating/splitting up the wilder elements of our supporter base.

As for a club anthem, we just don't have one. Drink up the cider is sung with gusto by a few when celebrating a win against the odds (Man U), yet in normal times it rarely gets above a few joining in, reason I believe is that people find it slightly embarrassing. We are also a very reactive somewhat reserved bunch that don't usually burst into song, along with complete strangers.

Now, if we had a song that people could be proud of, that we adopted and never worried about actually singing it, because it was tuneful and the words were easy, then that would be great. Unfortunately, to date, that song has eluded us, just like sustained success.

 

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I always enjoyed the chant 'always believe', in the Gary Johnson era, it seemed to get the whole crowd going.

I'm not sure if it originated from having Basso in goal, or the fact we just never seemed beaten and would often get last minute equalisers or winners (or was it just copied from another club - I don't recall anyone else singing in).

Always surprised it has not been sung since -  maybe we just don't believe anymore!

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1 hour ago, IAmNick said:

I remember back during the redevelopment the Atyeo roof was used as a reason that the home fans were quiet.

Also not sure I buy the fact the home fans need to be next to away ones - in fact, lots of traditional "home ends" which create loads of noise aren't.

I think we've just been served up a lot of crap on the pitch for quite a few years now, and it's had an effect. When the football is exciting again (and it's getting there, slowly) the atmosphere will come back as well whatever configuration the fans are stood in.

The thing is when our fans were in the atyeo it was only a little section of it and not the whole end . Majority of clubs give home fans a end behind the goal to stand but it seems wherever our fans want to stand at Ashton gate they are only given a poxy little section to do it in .

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3 hours ago, Robbored said:

The difficulty at AG for chants and songs is entirely down to location of those who like to chant. The ‘singing section’ is tucked away in the corner of the SS with poor acoustics whilst the away get the Atyeo with far better acoustics with the roof reflecting the sound out into the stadium. That exactly why just a few away fans can create so much sound.

In an ideal world the home fans would better placed in the Atyeo but A&S police want away fans there for easier access out to Ashton Rd post match. 

For those reasons nothing will happen regardless of what City song is sung

Is that official Robbo?

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1 hour ago, Wiltshire robin said:

The thing is when our fans were in the atyeo it was only a little section of it and not the whole end . Majority of clubs give home fans a end behind the goal to stand but it seems wherever our fans want to stand at Ashton gate they are only given a poxy little section to do it in .

As I wrote above. I believe the club did this intentionally to break up those singers. They shunted them from pillar to post and after finally submitting to the probability that they wouldn't go away, they put them somewhere out of the way and where they could be controlled and subsequently got rid of with every bit of bad behaviour.

The only way to get a proper singing section, is to infiltrate the best possible place for it to be effective, which is the centre of the South Stand. Sadly this might take a little time as it's quite popular. 

While the club appear to give in to those also wanting to stand, that also means they keep control of where they are. I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory but, SL has often quoted Norwich as a club he'd like us modelled on. Lot's of families, women and children are season ticket holders there and, I firmly believe he thinks by combining football and rugby, he'll get a cross over of support both ways. Expect swearing and fighting at the rugby and, piss drinking and come on Briz at the football.?

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My son and I stand in s82 and this is often the topic of conversation.  A singing section next to the away end makes all the difference,  like someone else said, look no further than Coventry and Swansea, both have created a great atmosphere at their grounds.
The solution would be, City fans back in the Atyeo, away fans to the right in the last quarter of the Lansdown.  Small away following and they get the bottom half, large away following and they get the bottom and top tier.  Away fans would still enter and leave the ground through the same entrance as they do now. Home fans enter and leave the Atyeo via the dolman side.

Can’t see it happening though.??‍♂️

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7 minutes ago, TomPearceMMA said:

My son and I stand in s82 and this is often the topic of conversation.  A singing section next to the away end makes all the difference,  like someone else said, look no further than Coventry and Swansea, both have created a great atmosphere at their grounds.
The solution would be, City fans back in the Atyeo, away fans to the right in The last quarter of the south stand.  Small away following and they get the bottom half, large away following and they get the bottom and top tier.  Away fans would still enter and leave the ground through the same entrance as they do now. Home fans enter and leave the Atyeo via the dolman side.

Can’t see it happening though.??‍♂️

Whilst I agree with everything you said can we stop saying singing section . Those two words pretty much sum up how shite the atmosphere is and makes Ashton gate sound like an mls stadium 

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12 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said:

Whilst I agree with everything you said can we stop saying singing section . Those two words pretty much sum up how shite the atmosphere is and makes Ashton gate sound like an mls stadium 

Yeah fair enough, a singing selection does sound a bit tinpot, but you get the general idea ?

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39 minutes ago, TomPearceMMA said:

My son and I stand in s82 and this is often the topic of conversation.  A singing section next to the away end makes all the difference,  like someone else said, look no further than Coventry and Swansea, both have created a great atmosphere at their grounds.
The solution would be, City fans back in the Atyeo, away fans to the right in The last quarter of the south stand.  Small away following and they get the bottom half, large away following and they get the bottom and top tier.  Away fans would still enter and leave the ground through the same entrance as they do now. Home fans enter and leave the Atyeo via the dolman side.

Can’t see it happening though.??‍♂️

Since when has there been a lower and upper section of the South Stand. And doing what you suggest moves the home and away fans to opposite ends of the ground. I'm being pedantic, I know you mean the Lansdown stand.

I really don't understand this thinking that bringing home and away fans closer together increases the atmosphere. It might seem like it when you're there and in amongst it at times, but for those in other parts of the ground it's sometimes just a noise, followed by gesturing and general antagonism towards each other.

From what I've seen, most proper clubs have their home fans at one end of the ground and tuck the away support the furthest away from the pitch that they can, to avoid them over influencing decisions and inspiring their team. Sensible really, get everything going for you, in your favour as opposed to encouraging the opposition.

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18 hours ago, Rich said:

Since when has there been a lower and upper section of the South Stand. And doing what you suggest moves the home and away fans to opposite ends of the ground. I'm being pedantic, I know you mean the Lansdown stand.

I really don't understand this thinking that bringing home and away fans closer together increases the atmosphere. It might seem like it when you're there and in amongst it at times, but for those in other parts of the ground it's sometimes just a noise, followed by gesturing and general antagonism towards each other.

From what I've seen, most proper clubs have their home fans at one end of the ground and tuck the away support the furthest away from the pitch that they can, to avoid them over influencing decisions and inspiring their team. Sensible really, get everything going for you, in your favour as opposed to encouraging the opposition.

This,

 

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